If someone so much as looks at the Straw Hats, people will believe them to be a potenital crewmember
Right now, that dude is octopus food.
If someone so much as looks at the Straw Hats, people will believe them to be a potenital crewmember
Right now, that dude is octopus food.
@Robo:
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I really didn't want to respond to this argument, but what the hell…
Context: to kill them from the inside. Also, how is this an argument?
Eustass "Captain" Kidd. Every pirate antagonist has had a past with the Marines, while bounty is relative to where we were in the story. Again, how is this an argument?
That's a hugely biased argument. Your point of view / opinion is that this is still a part of some "mega arc" you yourself define. Your next problem is that you are basing your argument around the fact that this has never been done before. "Only crew members travel on the boat!!!! He's on the boat!!!!" I mean, take out your confusing mega arc nonsense and that's really what your argument boils down to. Vivi, Carue, Wapol, Bon-chan, Johnny, Yosaku, Camie, Pappug, Hachi, and the list goes on have all been on the crew's ship, and arguably most have "travelled" with the crew to the same degree as Caribou. Maybe I'm missing your "extremely significant […] literary theory […] demonstrated constantly."
Wait, what? How? "Never knowing satisfaction where killing is concerned"? That's an extremely broad parallel, not to mention it assumes Caribou takes pleasure in killing. I also don't see how Luffy 'taming' Caribou, even as a metaphor, is an argument to foreshadow next crew member. See Helmeppo, Hachi, Mr. 3, Bon-chan, Boa Hancock, and hell, even Buggy and Croc.
Why doesn't Nami, Robin, or Franky fit that role somehow? Robin and Franky, at the least, were straight up enemies that fought against the crew for a period of time. Franky even led to Usopp quitting the crew. Let's be honest, anyone can pick a theme out of hat and force it on to their favorite flavor for next crew member.
I could apply this reasoning on Camie or Hachi. Or Bon-chan. Or… you get the idea.
No, that is not... ugh.
1. To kill them from the inside.
Yes, he attempted to join the straw hat pirates to kill them from the inside. To join the crew with the Captain that can turn "anyone" into his ally. His initial intention is not relevant, it's a plot element, it's foreshadowing. I can understand if you disagree, that's why i stated early on that this was just my opinion, not sure why everyone's raging over the fact someone believes differently than them. I don't want to be "respected" by people that can't accept that other people might believe differently than they do.
2. Only crew members travel on the boat.
Stating that this is my argument is an outright lie, that you voluntarily choose to ignore my reasoning is your choice and your intepretation. You are correct that it is my opinion. Read my first post where I specifically point out that it just my opinion, and encourage alternative ones. It's too bad that everyone else's reaction to someone merely holding a different belief than them is "ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!"
Mega Arc is the term I use, sure, but you can use any term you'd like, it is a real literary progression of a story.
Additionally, I am not basing my argument on that it's never been done before. I am using this as a supporting element to my theory, not the foundation for it. I'll restate the foundation later in this post, again.
3. A broad Parallel? Others have been specifically arguing that Caribou cannot be a crew member because he takes pleasure in killing. Another argument presented has been that he takes pleasure in "burying people alive." From what we've seen of Caribou, he takes pleasure in killing. I respect your view if you disagree. As I said in my very first damn post, it's just my view, I thought I would be able to (god forbid) express something other than the majority opinion, especially if I made it as thought out as I could, without having my character and person attacked. Admittedly however, you are not guilty of this so far, and I do appreciate that. This sort of discussion is awesome, because you're bringing up valid concerns instead of just bashing me for not having the same view as the mob.
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I also don't see how Luffy 'taming' Caribou, even as a metaphor, is an argument to foreshadow next crew member. See Helmeppo, Hachi, Mr. 3, Bon-chan, Boa Hancock, and hell, even Buggy and Croc.
None of these characters were forced against their will via the machina to be stuck with the Strawhats on their ship during a major crossover event (for instance, crossing into the grand line or into skypeia, the two closest things to this event of going under the ocean to the underwater land). None of them traveled with the Straw Hats from one big arc (I won't say Mega, because I'm not talking about the "three" I'm talking about the major transitions like going from Alabasta to Water 7 and Water 7 to Shaboondy, or for instance when they entered the grand line. This would be like if Helmeppo went into the Grand Line with the Stawhat Pirates. That's the level of this interaction, he is essentially 'entering the grand line' with the Strawhat pirates, because Oda chose to have Moo Moo be the sea king that he randomly caught, and specifically because it was Moo Moo Oda chose, he got trapped with them on this major journey equal to crossing into the grand line.
Who was on their ship when they crossed into the Grand Line?
Eustass "Captain" Kidd. Every pirate antagonist has had a past with the Marines, while bounty is relative to where we were in the story. Again, how is this an argument?
Maybe true, but this does not mean they have had the same 'kind' of past with the Marines. Luffy for instance has had much more negative experiences with the Marines than most of the rookies (all of them as far as I know). It's implied that Caribou has a similarly bad taste in his mouth with the Marines, he calls them "hypocrites" as he's killing one of them, and then explains how they are hypocrites. I admit this could be nothing. I personally think it is something.
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Why doesn't Nami, Robin, or Franky fit that role somehow? Robin and Franky, at the least, were straight up enemies that fought against the crew for a period of time. Franky even led to Usopp quitting the crew. Let's be honest, anyone can pick a theme out of hat and force it on to their favorite flavor for next crew member.
I could apply this reasoning on Camie or Hachi. Or Bon-chan. Or… you get the idea.
No, that is not... ugh.
I understand what you are saying here, and agree that you can intentionally apply a lot of things. I personally believe this is a little different than if you tried to apply it to those crew members and non crew members (Camie, Hachi, Bon), and to be honest all three of them turned out to be close allies to the Straw Hats. That said, this is different and here is why:
Caribou actually attempted to join the strawhats (for malicious reasons, yes). Caribou failed. Then Caribou attempted to invade the strawhats and failed, and then on top of failing was trapped with the strawhats on their ship as they are essentially 'crossing over' in a major way, like when they crossed over to the grand line. This is a crew only kind of event, in my opinion, and the fact that Oda FORCED Caribou to experience the crossover with the strawhats, and then started immediately developing his character (several members here like Caribou, I honestly dislike him, I just think he's going to join, I don't get a say in who joins).
More and more depth is being added to his character and he's sailing with the strawhats in a crossover as epic as going to Sky Island or going to the Grand Line, a MAJOR journey affair. Going to see bellamy was a minor journey affair, going to sky island was a major journey affair. Very powerful pirates wanted to follow the strawhats (bb), but couldn't, because FATE disallowed it. In this case, 'fate' ('randomly' capturing Moo Moo, who runs from the strawhats), forced it's hand against Caribou, leaving him all alone with the straw hats.
If Caribou leaves his brother/crew to join the Strawhats it wouldn't be unprecedented, Franky did the same. He wants to achieve his dream, surely, he's obviously very motivated (attacking a very dangerous pirate crew while they are underwater).
Anyway, Caribou, who is paralleled by the Krakken, and who describes the Krakken in the same way he'd be described, who is a logia (which the Straw Hats don't have), who is forced by fate to go with the Straw Hat pirates (and the rest of HIS crew was not allowed on the ship, BECAUSE it's a major crossover, Oda didn't allow it, but he FORCED Caribou to be stuck via bad luck, since out of all the millions of sea kins (or however many there are), they catch Moo Moo, who's character is being heavily developed and made three dimensional in this very chapter, who's learning that the strawhats are fucking crazy, who's not going to be able to leave the ship because they are underwater.
It reminds me of when I was in middle school and I got in a fight with a kid, so I was forced to sit in a room with him all day long and then we became friends.
It's my personal opinion but to me it looks like that is what Oda is doing.
By the way, when the Black Beard pirates tried to pursue Luffy and instead they escaped to Sky Island, what did he state outright?
Something about fate, it might have been a the sniper guy that said, either way, they state that basically they didn't do anything wrong in their attempt to get the Strawhats, but that fate did not want it to happen at that time, it was 'on the strawhat's side' so to speak. This is important because going to sky island is very similar to going to fishman island, except it's opposite way.
I didn't expect cariboo to be this sniveling bitch begging for his life afraid of the Kraken. We already have someone like that on the crew and Usopp doesn't even go to that extent. Such drastic mood swings from cariboo.
Cariboo isn't a logia.
He might not be a logia, but I don't think we know for sure and it seemed to be implied heavily that he was a logia. Either way it's not that important, but can you explain why you don't believe he's a logia? You mean to say he's similar to Mr. 3, and kinda sorta seems like a logia, but isn't? The way he absorbed ballistics (vs bouncing or stopping them with an armor) seemed to imply that he was a logia, to me at least.
You know, the fact that Caribou has been showing brutally murdering a person is a knock against him joining. It can be compared to past nakama's behavior, but is this really something that can be ignored? He's a sadist and murder. I get the feeling that Oda put that scene in so that we'd hate Caribou and hence enjoy his cruel treatment now, but it could be a red herring to make him not seem like a candidate. Well, wait and see I guess.
Hey, maybe this guy could join the crew and fill that "crazy bastard" nice that Moria kind of covers in this story now, except Caribou gets beat up for the crew through acting out so it's funny. He could be the crew's "black sheep." Someone mentioned "cabin boy" as a role in the past, maybe Caribou could be that. It'd be punishment for his behavior, and at the same time having a murderous logia tending your ship seems like a great way to protect it. Yeah, the potential for crew mate is there, but I dunno. I think Caribou can just as easily end up being a Spandam, a bastard who's fun to see get hit.
onemoment, that Spandam comparison is actually very possible, as is the whole "buggy the clown's role on Rodger's ship" which it seems like you are kinda describing (selfish, self serving, etc, though Caribou would be in that role for different reasons than Buggy).
You are right about this as well.
Only time will tell!
Cariboos setup is bothering me. He is being setup as a huge psycho who has only one intention. Destroy. Even his design is one of a cold crazy killer.
It has to happen a lot for it to change which i do believe would be too much. That's where it ends to me. No longer explanation is needded.
I am tired of all those bad theories in this thread. "Cariboo for Nakama". I mean, seriously. he is a worse candidate than Perona.
It's implied he's a Logia however, I seem him more like Mr. 3. Until a full explanation of his power is assembled I'm not going to say he's a logia. Especially if we consider the kick from sanji. Even though in the past chapter he was shot it's still not clear.
Robin betrayed her last boss and was mad suspect. Until water 7.
She had good reasons, but we didn't know them. Exactly.
The Mr. 3 type of power possibility does exist, it's possible that he just made a 'coat' of whatever that element was and the bullets lose momentum when they hit it, etc. Totally understandable that you would want to wait for a clear demonstration of the type of fruit, i prefer to theorize for fun but it's obviously far more logical to just wait and see, haha.
Cariboos setup is bothering me. He is being setup as a huge psycho who has only one intention. Destroy. Even his design is one of a cold crazy killer.
It has to happen a lot for it to change which i do believe would be too much. That's where it ends to me. No longer explanation is needded.
Would you say that one of the themes in One Piece is "If you are too evil, you can't be redeemed"?
btw there is actually support for this with Arlong (as far as we know, anyway), so I am not criticizing you and it's not a rhetorical question, I'm asking seriously.
Do some people really want a psycho who killed anyone who lies in the crew?
Damn, what happened to your common sense?
Would you say that one of the themes in One Piece is "If you are too evil, you can't be redeemed"?
No.
But Oda has to do a lot of work to explain why cariboo is the way he is why he murders left and right and slowly redeem him. At the end Oda has to use this completely redeemed character in a way that it would make sense for him to join.
That's what i call too much. A lot of bad characters have been redeemed in one piece.
If Cariboo joins, then that is the end of Usopp right there.
I'd like to think I am suprised that people actually are giving thought to him joining the crew, but sadly I can believe it.
And Oda has to cut off cariboos psycho tongue and/or make those rinnegan eyes lovely. Which would be huge changes to cariboos design. I also don't see that.
Luffy: I'm going to be Pirate king!
Zoro: I'm going to be the world's strongest swordsman!
Nami: I'm going to make a chart of the entire world!
Usopp:I'm going to–
Caribou: I'm going to bury all the sinners of the world alive, then chop off your heads and show them to the world, and they will fear me and bow to me!! KEHEHEHEHEHE!!!
Chopper: GAH!! Caribou is scary!!!!
(Luffy: Hahahaha! what a funny guy!)
Do people really see this guy joining? For that to happen the character change would have to be so radical that Oda might as well draw a new character, give him the same name, and say he looks different because Tsuru used her DF to wash away his psychotic-murderer appearance.
It'd be fucking hilarious if Cariboo never changed, stayed the same Psycho murderer that buried people alive, was completely unconnected with the Straw Hats, and just stayed with them with the belief that, sooner or later, he'l get the chance to kill them all.
Oda isn't obviously gonna do that, but I'd laugh so hard
There is only one way I will be happy if Caribou joins, and that is if he stays on the ship and attacks the Strawhats Pink Panther style every time they come back. One of the stipulations being that he has to lose every time.
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But seriously even Buggy has some redeemable characteristics. I cant seriously see a guy like this being a permanent member of the crew. Perhaps he will tag along Vivi style for a while but I kinda doubt it.
Caribou is another Koby/Johnny/Yosaku/Mr. 9/Miss Wednesday/Bon Clay, potential ally (that's unlikely), but not a potential Strawhat. Definitely not.
Caribou is another Koby/Johnny/Yosaku/Mr. 9/Miss Wednesday/Bon Clay, potential ally (that's unlikely), but not a potential Strawhat. Definitely not.
Exactly. He'll jump off at Fishman Island and bumbe around for a bit, then probably gets back to the surface.
He might even join the villain of Fishman Island's crew.
Robin betrayed her last boss and was mad suspect. Until water 7.
Yeah but Robin wasn't seen killing the same guy in cold blood two chapters in a row. This is the only thing that I think rules out Caribou as a nakama. You might refer to other Strawhats mentioning killing in the past (Zoro and maybe Robin), and yeah the Strawhats are pirates but it seems like that makes him wrong for a protagonist of this series.
He's a perfect punching bag right now. He's a despicable man who's motives are evil and now he's getting his ass kicked by the crew. It's a great set up for a joke and that's why I like Caribou right now. But he's probably better off as a side character for now.
One thing's for sure, this Caribou sure is an interesting guy!
You wouldn't go to TVTropes by any chance.
You write like someone who has.
I honestly don't go there. I hope that's not an insult though, I really am just trying to share my opinion and I think it's a tad unreasonable to assault people for doing so, it discourages original content on the forum if a few very vocal people consistently attempt to attack and harm the confidence or self-worth of any individual that posts up beliefs contrary to their own.
No.
But Oda has to do a lot of work to explain why cariboo is the way he is why he murders left and right and slowly redeem him. At the end Oda has to use this completely redeemed character in a way that it would make sense for him to join.
That's what i call too much. A lot of bad characters have been redeemed in one piece.
Fair enough, you are saying it would be too much for him to get redemption AND join the strawhats. On that we'll just have to disagree and only the future will tell. I think Oda has it in him.
Just you guys wait. Caribou is going to be a big part of this story, obviously much more than a punching bag.
Caribou could have a big change of heart and develop Stockholm's Syndrome. Boom.
One thing's for sure, this Caribou sure is an interesting guy!
Nobody said the contrary, but you can be an interesting character without being a crewmember. One Piece would be a shitty manga if the only interesting characters were the main characters.
Caribou could have a big change of heart and develop Stockholm's Syndrome. Boom.
By that you forget that those Stockholm-patients never intented to kill before the guys out of nowhere and that the kidnapper planned to do so.
(Unlike in this case)
Eh, As much as i wanna jump on the logia-crewmember bandwagon, I dont like this one.
I will only accept Cariboo as a crew member, and only if, this occurs at one point:
Cariboo vs. random arc villain underling who compliments him
Cariboo: Huff, huff…You think...You're gonna kill that Strawhat kid-I mean, the captain? Well...The only person who gets to maim, slaughter, and piss on the graves of that crew...is ME!!!
SoapBox for next moderator because his theories are so full of awesomeness that I strongly belive that Caribou is the next nakama. Dudes! He even pulled a Robin-style joining! OMG-IM-ON-FIRE!!!!!
Eh, As much as i wanna jump on the logia-crewmember bandwagon, I dont like this one.
You could jump on and completely ignore this character.
I always felt a logia user wouldn't be bad at all and could work well given where I thought the story would be and where it is now.
Hoping for earth or wind logia.
@Zik:
You could jump on and completely ignore this character.
I always felt a logia user wouldn't be bad at all and could work well given where I thought the story would be and where it is now.
Hoping for earth or wind logia.
While I'm on the mer-person bandwagon before the logia one, I just dont like this character so far. Years back I felt that a Logia in the crew would be the ultimate trump-card, but as we enter the world of Haki-users I could see it being more balanced. Mer/fish-people are where it's at!
@SoapBox:[hide]@SoapBox:
His initial intention is not relevant, it's a plot element, it's foreshadowing. I can understand if you disagree, that's why i stated early on that this was just my opinion.
Writing techniques aren't usually categorized as 'opinion', so you can be wrong, as can I. You keep throwing around terms that you don't define or don't understand, and given the subject matter, I'm not surprised to see people get a little aggressive; you can't just cry "opinion" and expect to be safe from debate. Anyway, a character pretending to join a crew so he can kill them from the inside, while the crew in question being relatively infamous for making allies out of enemies isn't foreshadow for them joining. It's at the moment baseless conjecture, but sure, he could eventually become an ally in the future.
Mega Arc is the term I use, sure, but you can use any term you'd like, it is a real literary progression of a story.
See, you can't just arbitrarily point at something and assign some writing term to it. I can say Luffy's frilly shirt is foreshadow that he wants to wear longer sleeved clothes from now on, but that doesn't really make sense now does it? So let's look at this portion of your argument: Oda constantly demonstrates extremely significant literary theory by transitioning from one section of story (read: "Mega Arc") to the next. Constantly… that is, one time, going on two. This extremely significant literary theory of transition, as seen by the crew leaving East Blue and entering the Grand Line, is now being repeated by the crew leaving "Paradise" and entering the New World. Amidst these constant transitions, which again is coming up on two, everyone who was traveling on the crew's ship was, in fact, a member of the crew. Lo and behold, we are currently transitioning from "Paradise" to the New World, AND OH MY GOD CARIBOU IS ON THE SHIP. Ergo, this is foreshadow that he will join.
Super.
None of these characters were forced against their will via the machina to be stuck with the Strawhats on their ship during a major crossover event.
Of course they weren't. This is a written story, so there has to be a first time for some things, and of course Oda won't rehash his story all over the place. I understand your gut feeling behind this stems from the fact that this is a major event for the crew, but in no way does that suggest Oda has crew member plans for this single unprecedented scenario. Whatever story Oda has planned for Fishman Island, it obviously requires Caribou to be here, split from the rest of his crew. In addition to that, Caribou allows perspective and 3rd party comments to the crew's growth by witnessing their ridiculous antics first hand.
The fact that Oda FORCED Caribou to experience the crossover with the Strawhats, and then started immediately developing his character.
Oda didn't force anything, and I don't understand why you hold to that idea so firmly. What you are suggesting is forced could be applied to almost anything in the story. Seriously. On top of that, Oda technically started developing Caribou on Saboady. What's most important, however, is that Caribou's actions in this chapter accurately depict how he was setup on Saboady. Him lying and waiting for the right opportunity in this chapter is basically the same as him joining the Fauxhat crew so he could kill them from the inside. His fear of dying by drowning in the water is the only new development, but he's only been around for a few chapters, so of course there is new stuff.
None of them traveled with the Straw Hats from one big arc– I won't say Mega, because I'm not talking about the "three" I'm talking about the major transitions.
You are completely forcing the argument, plain and simple. You are choosing what to keep and what to scrap so that it fits the mold of your theory. Vivi and Carue were with the crew from the start of the Grand Line all the way to Alabasta. That includes Laboon to Whiskey Peak, Whiskey Peak to Little Garden, Little Garden to Drum, and Drum to Alabasta. What's more, that is considered the 'Boroque Works Saga', and is a pretty significant portion of the story. More still, Vivi was there when they first experienced the Grand Line. Vivi answered a lot of their questions, made comments, and generally told them what they needed to do during their transition into the Grand Line. Story wise, she was much more involved with their "major events" than Caribou likely ever will, and she isn't a member of the crew.
That's the level of this interaction, he is essentially 'entering the grand line' with the Strawhat pirates, because Oda chose to have Moo Moo be the sea king that he randomly caught.
Vivi was essentially 'entering the grand line' with the Strawhat pirates, because Oda chose to have Laboon be the subject that she was randomly poaching.
Who was on their ship when they crossed into the Grand Line?
Who was on their ship when they first sailed in the Grand Line?
More and more depth is being added to his character and he's sailing with the strawhats in a crossover as epic as going to Sky Island or going to the Grand Line, a MAJOR journey affair.
Or sailing the Grand Line for the first time. I thought that was pretty major.
Anyway, Caribou, who is paralleled by the Krakken, and who describes the Krakken in the same way he'd be described.
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I would not mind a Logia as long as it is clearly shown that he or she is not as powerful as Sanji and Zoro.
before i didn't mind caribou. but this week he showed his true colors. he's incredibly lame.
I seem to recall Soapbox AGOG posting that he used to post on a friend's account.
But this has convinced me that someone somewhere will post every new character as new crewmate. Caribou? There are no signs at all that he'll join or any reasoning behind why he should join. Crew doesn't need a logia. Why else would Caribou join? There's no answer beside fans deluding themselves in their heads.
Nobody said the contrary, but you can be an interesting character without being a crewmember. One Piece would be a shitty manga if the only interesting characters were the main characters.
Now hold on, that wasn't my point! maybe it would have been clearer if I said, "regardless he's an interesting character." That is, crewmate or not.
with jinbe (too boring) and hatchan (too weak) out of the picture. the only know fishman that could possibly join would be arlong.
How the hell is Jinbei out of the picture.
with jinbe (too boring)
You can't call that a reason, per se…he hasn't appeared for a while nor has his quirks fully been developed by Oda yet.
In fact, Bottlenose said it better than I did.
the only know fishman that could possibly join would be arlong.
Who would never be on the crew.
@Cyan:
I will only accept Cariboo as a crew member, and only if, this occurs at one point:
Cariboo vs. random arc villain underling who compliments him
Cariboo: Huff, huff…You think...You're gonna kill that Strawhat kid-I mean, the captain? Well...The only person who gets to maim, slaughter, and piss on the graves of that crew...is ME!!!
Hahahahaha.
That'd be so fucking awesome.
But, to be fair, I certainly don't want Caribou on the SH's, although I don't want him to be a easy punching bag either ;_______;
Jinbei would work perfectly as a crewmate from what we've seen. He has character depth and we'll certainly see more of him in FI, and he actually interacted with Luffy to significant degrees.
Anyone saying he's been removed as a candidate is wrong.
I imagine the crew will get a new nakama at fishman island. Just it will be someone very unexpected, or not quite a conventional fishman. Thats the biggest problem i see with jinbei i like to think that someone like mohmoo will join (seacow from arlong park) although i know he won't thats the kind of craziness i expect in order to deserve a place in Luffy's crew.
Edit: Mohmoo has a chance! seacows are apparently classified type A as "big friendly"
Mohmoo is back people! Mohmoo for next nakama.
Also looking forward to whatever happens to Coribou, since he wont join because he has a dependent brother who needs him, but could possibly be eaten by the kraken
(also makes me think maybe hes not to demonstrate how luffy can use haki and hit logias, but that some creatures in the new world can too…)
How the hell is Jinbei out of the picture.
You can't call that a reason, per se…he hasn't appeared for a while nor has his quirks fully been developed by Oda yet.
jinbe is like an empty vessel. no character.@MetaMario:
Who would never be on the crew.
how so? with so many df users the crew could use someone who's strong under water. he's a former boss. they already know him. they don't have an evil member yet. his interaction with the crew would be hilarious.
Why should the crew have an evil character? THat makes no sense. Besides the whole causing hell for Nami part, and the rotting in impel down at the moment part as well kind of put a cap on that idea
Yes, Arlong, the guy who killed Nami's mother right in front of her, held her village hostage for an extortionate amount of money, and all around racist bastard, would make a better crewmate than Jinbe.
jinbe is like an empty vessel. no character.
Anyone who posts this, needs to stop making retarded posts. This could have been the case with Robin. This is bullshit reasoning applied to someone we know nothing about.
How is him having been related to Arlong not something that can be used in the story.
Why should the crew have an evil character? THat makes no sense. Besides the whole causing hell for Nami part, and the rotting in impel down at the moment part as well kind of put a cap on that idea
every pirate crew should have at least one evil member. as for nami, she just need to get over it. they are pirates, shit happens. nami just need to stop whining. he was never shown at impel down.
jinbe is like an empty vessel. no character.
Ok, while you think he doesn't have character, he does. Either way, Oda can easily develop him at FI and/or in the future.
how so? with so many df users the crew could use someone who's strong under water. he's a former boss. they already know him. they don't have an evil member yet. his interaction with the crew would be hilarious.
Yeah…..
Why should the crew have an evil character? THat makes no sense. Besides the whole causing hell for Nami part, and the rotting in impel down at the moment part as well kind of put a cap on that idea
@Cyan:
Yes, Arlong, the guy who killed Nami's mother right in front of her, held her village hostage for an extortionate amount of money, and all around racist bastard, would make a better crewmate than Jinbe.
I think these two guys explained it for you.
every pirate should have at least one evil member. as for nami, she just need to get over it. they are pirates, shit happens. nami just need to stop whining.
You can't just "get over" an evil fishman killing your mother and enslaving your town. Come on now.