I am not sure about reaction shots next chapter. Oda could go and do it that way, or he could do it after Fishman Island.
Assume we'll ever get there, that is. I would not know what to say if we get derailed again.
I am not sure about reaction shots next chapter. Oda could go and do it that way, or he could do it after Fishman Island.
Assume we'll ever get there, that is. I would not know what to say if we get derailed again.
I suppose Logia are DFs with the power of Nature (elemental), since the japanese for Logia is shizenkei (shizen=nature).
But then again Kizaru had to check whether Hawkin's is Logia or not, by looking whether his body is solid or not.
So basically I'll stick with Urouge's explanation.
So basically I'll stick with Urouge's explanation.
Which chapter was that in? I can't remember, I didn't pay close enough attention to the sabody arc.
I hope that in the next chapter they'll have the crew talking about what they did over the 2 years. I really wanna know what they did, and their new abilities and stuff :D
in the next chapter I want to see Sengoku and Garp, the Vice admirals, revolutionary army specially Dragon, Whitebeard Pirate division commanders, Shanks and his crew, Shichibukai, Smoker, blackbeard pirates, and the 10 Supernovas.
I want to see all of them giving their comments and reactions after hearing the news that the Strawhat pirates is back again and they got really strong, hopefully with new bounty specially luffy and zoro.
and the chapter will only be 80 pages long
Which chapter was that in? I can't remember, I didn't pay close enough attention to the sabody arc.
Sorry about that, I didn't mean the character in the manga. I meant Urouge, that's a username in this forum. His post is somewhere in this thread.
Sorry about that, I didn't mean the character in the manga. I meant Urouge, that's a username in this forum. His post is somewhere in this thread.
Ahhhh got it, thanks I'll go look for that then.
@Sea:
Am I the only one who thinks the phrase:"So what if I am" is suspicious?
Nope, it's definitely suspicious. I hope that it is a logia fruit but for now I'm not at all sure.
the only problem I have with that scene is the fact that the cannon ball didn't explode, which is
something we have seen with others like Magellan.
the other thing is it looked like he was absorbing it rather than letting it pass through him which puts another question, WHY?
the only problem I have with that scene is the fact that the cannon ball didn't explode, which is
something we have seen with others like Magellan.the other thing is it looked like he was absorbing it rather than letting it pass through him which puts another question, WHY?
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Magellan is not a Logia >.> Why would you think that he was a Logia?
And if he's a thick consistency, why would he bother letting it pass through? If you're made of fire or sand, then it hits your body and passes through naturally, but if, for example, Akainu or Aokiji were hit by a cannonball, while I would not expect it to phase them, I would expect it to melt into Akainu and just freeze and stop upon hitting Aokiji. They COULD make it pass through, but that would take them actively creating a hole in their body the size of the cannonball upon the instant they would be hit. With a lot of other logias, this kind of "active" thought is just not necessary for things to pass through.
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Magellan is not a Logia >.> Why would you think that he was a Logia?
I'm not saying he's logia. I just used him as an example for DFs that look like a logia but are in fact a Para..
And if he's a thick consistency, why would he bother letting it pass through? If you're made of fire or sand, then it hits your body and passes through naturally, but if, for example, Akainu or Aokiji were hit by a cannonball, while I would not expect it to phase them, I would expect it to melt into Akainu and just freeze and stop upon hitting Aokiji. They COULD make it pass through, but that would take them actively creating a hole in their body the size of the cannonball upon the instant they would be hit. With a lot of other logias, this kind of "active" thought is just not necessary for things to pass through.
while this could be true, but in the war for example when Luffy faced against the three Admirals
he throw a mast at them and they just let it pass through them although Akainu could've melt it..
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all I'm saying is that he looks like his DF "to me at least" could be a logia or a para.
until further notice.
I would normally classify a logia as someone that can't be harmed by physical attacks, but someone could take that and stretch it a bit. I also go with what others were saying about it having to be in it's natural state. I think this guy will end up being a mudman or earth logia. Or something to that effect.
OH yeah, and to what someone was saying that Magellan is a logia… No, he can just cover himself in poison, not become it. Same with Mr.3. He can cover himself in Wax, and even make wax copies, but he doesn't become wax himself.
On the conversation of why not let it pass through? Well, if he is mud or some earth type, it's consistancy wouldn't allow something like that cannon ball to pass through like it was nothing. It's science damn you!
Try dropping a ball of iron into a large tub of mud. Do et!
*edit Ooh, or he could be something really wierd, not an element at all, like something like... The suu-suu fruit!
Nah, I'll stick with the Doro-Doro fruit.
And if he's a thick consistency, why would he bother letting it pass through? If you're made of fire or sand, then it hits your body and passes through naturally, but if, for example, Akainu or Aokiji were hit by a cannonball, while I would not expect it to phase them, I would expect it to melt into Akainu and just freeze and stop upon hitting Aokiji. They COULD make it pass through, but that would take them actively creating a hole in their body the size of the cannonball upon the instant they would be hit. With a lot of other logias, this kind of "active" thought is just not necessary for things to pass through.
Akainu's logia is a liquid-based one. Granted, magma a very, very viscous liquid, but a fluid-flowing substance nonetheless. If an object with incredibly high heat resistance were to be launched at him, it would pass through his magma body. Have you ever dipped a spoon into chocolate fudge? The thickness of it provides much resistance, but it goes through nonetheless. It's more or less the same principle with Akainu's magma and Caribou's substance (which appears to be the same consistency and color as a corn starch/water mixture.)
Another theory, if the projectile launched doesn't have enough velocity (in Fake Sogeking's case, it was launched at point blank range, so I don't think this is the case), the logia-user could theoretically push it through his body manually.
next chapter would test luffy's haki that it really could touch a logia DF user…
i still think tht its glue … glue is found in the nature but till now all thelogias were elemental
i have a strong feeling its just paramecia ..... cement and tar are really unlikely to be the df as the colour of the wierd glue stuff was white
http://img1.mangareader.net/manga/one-piece/1515880_e.jpg
i still think tht its glue … glue is found in the nature but till now all thelogias were elemental
i have a strong feeling its just paramecia ..... cement and tar are really unlikely to be the df as the colour of the wierd glue stuff was white
http://img1.mangareader.net/manga/one-piece/1515880_e.jpg
If it's a logia then it's not just that it has to be naturally occurring, but that it has to be a force of nature. Oda said this in an SBS and all the fruit we have see so far conform to that. They also often share some of the same characteristics of the force E.g. crocodile not only became sand but also had the same powers and weakness as the desert, the desert dry's things out and water can make the desert no longer be desert. But like I said they are all forces.
Smoke: Think wildfires, think volcanoes (not actually sure if The ash clouds count as smoke, could someone enlighten me?), think suffocation.
Sand/desert: sandstorms dehydration.
Fire: Fire.
Lightning: boooooom!
Ice/cold: Winter, Ice ages, death, mass extinction.
Darkness/Gravity: which way is down? Black wholes, Falling, the earth holding together.
Light: Kinda important, doncha know.
Magma: Core of the earth, Volcanoes .
Glue: ummmmm sticky?
Glue is not in any way a force of nature. Natualy accuring? Yes. Force? No.
But, like you, I'm seriously leaning towards a parmicia, mostly because there was no evidence of the cannon ball coming back out of Caribou.
nah not glue.
First thing i thought of when i saw it was bird poop power fruit. Hey you could call it a power of nature at least.
Not sure what it is, but i assume it going to be logia so that luffy can demonstrate how he can now physically hit logias. It seems like these guys are the warm up for the Straw Hats to show off their new moves.
nah not glue.
First thing i thought of when i saw it was bird poop power fruit. Hey you could call it a power of nature at least.
Not sure what it is, but i assume it going to be logia so that luffy can demonstrate how he can now physically hit logias. It seems like these guys are the warm up for the Straw Hats to show off their new moves.
They One hit K.O'ed the pacifista's. Before the time skip luffy had a bounty of 300mil and togheter with his crew they had trouble to destroy 1 pacifista. So it would be fair to say that the caribou brothers are weaker than a pacifista. So they should all be able to one hit the caribou brothers, the only problem is that one has a logia ability. So don't expect awesome moves, I think it's just to show that not only Luffy has learned haki.
Hopefully yes and the battle gets resolved in max 2 chapters
I start to believe that the Caribou brothers are just somehow fodder to raise Zoro's and Sanji's bounty.
Well unless they will hold up the fight until FI and unless Marines will be present there, that will be kind of hard…
clue me in:
so caribou and coribou, who have seen luffy one hit a pacifista, (and possibly zoro and sanji taking down another), and STILL went to pick a fight with them, are going to be fodder for zoro and sanji?
For me, logias can have their bodies dismantled and reconstituted. They are the fundamental matter, and they control their matter at the particle level (even at the "energy" level, considering Kizaru).
Maybe Caribou has the real Gom Gom logia DF ? Liquid natural rubber. It could be hierarchical as Akainu was for Ace. Except its physical properties would be very different.
clue me in:
so caribou and coribou, who have seen luffy one hit a pacifista, (and possibly zoro and sanji taking down another), and STILL went to pick a fight with them, are going to be fodder for zoro and sanji?
Overconfidence is common :ninja:
Disregarding the strength of the caribou brothers, i think the fight will be to show off some new moves or to show the straw hats' increase in strength over the timeskip.
Cariboo can also be a grease logia - floats on water, combusts to flames.
clue me in:
so caribou and coribou, who have seen luffy one hit a pacifista, (and possibly zoro and sanji taking down another), and STILL went to pick a fight with them, are going to be fodder for zoro and sanji?
Logia's are arrogant. He probably doesn't know a damn thing about haki and figures they won't be able to hit him anyways. Anyways I really can't wait to see how this turns out.
Overconfidence is common :ninja:
@Mr.:
Logia's are arrogant. He probably doesn't know a damn thing about haki and figures they won't be able to hit him anyways. Anyways I really can't wait to see how this turns out.
thanks, i didn't consider the possibility that Caribou doesn't know Luffy can hit him with Haki if he had a Logia fruit.
seems kinda obvious now though
clue me in:
so caribou and coribou, who have seen luffy one hit a pacifista, (and possibly zoro and sanji taking down another), and STILL went to pick a fight with them, are going to be fodder for zoro and sanji?
Where is it stated that they saw them in action ?
I can't believe that some random pirates, even after Oda wrote that the new SN are not the same level as the ones from 2 years before, would just arrive at Shabondi and be somewhat in the same league than the SH after their two years special training. Really the story doesn't need other meaningless fights between the SH and some newcomers, they now have to rush in the NW and make it in one straight blow. Now we are talking about NW pirates, the ones from the war, the ones from the disbanded WB crew, maybe a few remaining SN from before, and Yonkus, vice admirals, admirals (plus Sengoku, Garp, …), and BB crew ! Pirates like Caribou may still be good for fillers in the anime.
Where is it stated that they saw them in action ?
I can't believe that some random pirates, even after Oda wrote that the new SN are not the same level as the ones from 2 years before, would just arrive at Shabondi and be somewhat in the same league than the SH after their two years special training. Really the story doesn't need other meaningless fights between the SH and some newcomers, they now have to rush in the NW and make it in one straight blow. Now we are talking about NW pirates, the ones from the war, the ones from the disbanded WB crew, maybe a few remaining SN from before, and Yonkus, vice admirals, admirals (plus Sengoku, Garp, …), and BB crew ! Pirates like Caribou may still be good for fillers in the anime.
Don't forget the level 6 prisoners. Maybe the caribou brothers are former level 6 prisoners….Anyways the brothers look like a couple of lame ducks trying to collect a bounty head without having any knowledge of the other fighter's abilities.
It looks like the two are thinking about conning the SH crew by asking them if they could join and then attacking them when they are unaware, rather than fighting them head on.
My prediction on Cari/Coribous fate. Usopp torpedoes them with an algae pop-green.
I just can't stand their ugly mugs for another panel.:sick:
clue me in:
so caribou and coribou, who have seen luffy one hit a pacifista, (and possibly zoro and sanji taking down another), and STILL went to pick a fight with them, are going to be fodder for zoro and sanji?
Well lets think about it like this
If Caribou is logia like we asume he is…
So basically if he does not realize Luffy and the company has Haki, he may think no matter how strong they are, they are able to do jack to him...
Also good to note that fodder in this thread is being used as = someone who wont cause too much of a problem and will be disposed easily...
So...
Do we know if that mr. 4 wannabee brother of his is strong at all? He seems to be only good at digging holes…The rest of the crew just looks pathetic.
@Mr.:
Don't forget the level 6 prisoners. Maybe the caribou brothers are former level 6 prisoners….Anyways the brothers look like a couple of lame ducks trying to collect a bounty head without having any knowledge of the other fighter's abilities.
It looks like the two are thinking about conning the SH crew by asking them if they could join and then attacking them when they are unaware, rather than fighting them head on.
I really didn't think about that even though they're called rookies, it's highly possible !
I think Sanji will transform into an okama when he'll have to fight women…
I think Sanji will transform into an okama when he'll have to fight women…
Read the thread, i've lready said it…. :getlost:
@Mex:
Read the thread, i've lready said it…. :getlost:
If I weren't so lazy I would crush your hopes right away. But please read some chapter back and think over it once again^^
BTW I think Zoro will be a walking navigation system now and Luffy will have the intellect of Vegapunk and Usopp will be the first one who will run toward actions
I think Sanji will transform into an okama when he'll have to fight women…
Oh…LeT's HOPE THAT HAPPENS.... AGAIN!!!! :ninja:
Oh…LeT's HOPE THAT HAPPENS.... AGAIN!!!! :ninja: I will show you something…
! "I won't wear it ever again!" http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece…3/page009.html "I'll refuse" "They will TRY to put a dress on you" (IVA)
! http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece…5/page017.html "I'll accept your CHALLENGE!" http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece…5/page018.html Now the current chapters prove it even more that he won't be an Okama nor he he will use the strange way of Okama fighting. If anything… he will mix it up with his own style. He "hates" them and the hell he was living through… That he is acting that much in front of Nami and the others is simply a gag, which shows how happy he is (which I understand), that he is back to a world with women and have left that hell. Seriously how many times Oda/Sanji has to show you that Sanji won't be an Okama in any way and will stay to his ways. Hell it was hinted with the first cover that he was forced to wear that shit (please no anime)…
If you can't seperate an ovivious joke made by Oda with Sanji…. Than sorry... Some of you are really stupid. Would be the same if you think... Zoro won't be th best swordsmen and Luffy won't be pirate king And same for the hitting women… He won't hit women cuz it is part of his character same as Zoro's sense of direction or Usopp's always scared and Luffy's stupidness. I said it from the beginning... Why should Sanji suddenly hit women if he was 2 years with Okamas which wanted to dress him ?
! I would be even more glad and amazed by women after a time like this and not suddenly kick them into the face... And what happened… Exactly what I predicted. Sanji is still the same and even more effected by women, which I can understand totally. But people who thought that as "power up" are the same who think he will have a split personality Okama mode or uses Iva's hell wink with his covered eye, Zoro having MIhawkgan or Usopp doesn't being scared anymore and maybe even monster level. That it makes no sense story-wise and character-wise isn't interesting. Oda is letting Sanji say… I'll refuse and won't ever dress again... People say he will. Sanji says I won't learn Okama Kempo cuz I'm a manly man.... People say he will use Okama Kempo. Seriously… It is not that alone. This year was the worst year with the stupist theories I ever read. I hope next year will be better.
Was anyone decieved by Luffy looking that much like Roger?
I found it a bit "cheap"… Not really original. The straw hat is a nice symbol, but...
I found it a little Naruto-like. (Yes, it's not only Naruto, but come on ! Was it really that useful? I hope at least Luffy won't look like Roger when he'll be older. I mean, physically.)
Don't like it either. The hatw ould be eneough. Even Dragon looks less similar to Luffy than Roger
u haven't seen dragon at a younger age…
Roger looks like Ace, not like Luffy…
Most reasonably fit and clean-shaven men would look similar to Luffy if they smiled like that and covered the top half of their face. Plus since it's a manga we can't see how much darker Roger might have been, in the anime he's shown as a little browner than Luffy.
I will show you something…
! "I won't wear it ever again!" http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece…3/page009.html "I'll refuse" "They will TRY to put a dress on you" (IVA)
! http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece…5/page017.html "I'll accept your CHALLENGE!" http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece…5/page018.html Now the current chapters prove it even more that he won't be an Okama nor he he will use the strange way of Okama fighting. If anything… he will mix it up with his own style. He "hates" them and the hell he was living through… That he is acting that much in front of Nami and the others is simply a gag, which shows how happy he is (which I understand), that he is back to a world with women and have left that hell. Seriously how many times Oda/Sanji has to show you that Sanji won't be an Okama in any way and will stay to his ways. Hell it was hinted with the first cover that he was forced to wear that shit (please no anime)…
If you can't seperate an ovivious joke made by Oda with Sanji…. Than sorry... Some of you are really stupid. Would be the same if you think... Zoro won't be th best swordsmen and Luffy won't be pirate king And same for the hitting women… He won't hit women cuz it is part of his character same as Zoro's sense of direction or Usopp's always scared and Luffy's stupidness. I said it from the beginning... Why should Sanji suddenly hit women if he was 2 years with Okamas which wanted to dress him ?
! I would be even more glad and amazed by women after a time like this and not suddenly kick them into the face... And what happened… Exactly what I predicted. Sanji is still the same and even more effected by women, which I can understand totally. But people who thought that as "power up" are the same who think he will have a split personality Okama mode or uses Iva's hell wink with his covered eye, Zoro having MIhawkgan or Usopp doesn't being scared anymore and maybe even monster level. That it makes no sense story-wise and character-wise isn't interesting. Oda is letting Sanji say… I'll refuse and won't ever dress again... People say he will. Sanji says I won't learn Okama Kempo cuz I'm a manly man.... People say he will use Okama Kempo. Seriously… It is not that alone. This year was the worst year with the stupist theories I ever read. I hope next year will be better.
Lol, you sure are an easy target. SANJI for OKAMA!!!!…I mean NAKAMA!
Lol, you sure are an easy target. SANJI for OKAMA!!!!…I mean NAKAMA!
Well to be honest I didn't want to quote you but the 2010ers I was just to lazy to change it
I will show you something…
! "I won't wear it ever again!" http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece…3/page009.html "I'll refuse" "They will TRY to put a dress on you" (IVA)
! http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece…5/page017.html "I'll accept your CHALLENGE!" http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece…5/page018.html Now the current chapters prove it even more that he won't be an Okama nor he he will use the strange way of Okama fighting. If anything… he will mix it up with his own style. He "hates" them and the hell he was living through… That he is acting that much in front of Nami and the others is simply a gag, which shows how happy he is (which I understand), that he is back to a world with women and have left that hell. Seriously how many times Oda/Sanji has to show you that Sanji won't be an Okama in any way and will stay to his ways. Hell it was hinted with the first cover that he was forced to wear that shit (please no anime)…
If you can't seperate an ovivious joke made by Oda with Sanji…. Than sorry... Some of you are really stupid. Would be the same if you think... Zoro won't be th best swordsmen and Luffy won't be pirate king And same for the hitting women… He won't hit women cuz it is part of his character same as Zoro's sense of direction or Usopp's always scared and Luffy's stupidness. I said it from the beginning... Why should Sanji suddenly hit women if he was 2 years with Okamas which wanted to dress him ?
! I would be even more glad and amazed by women after a time like this and not suddenly kick them into the face... And what happened… Exactly what I predicted. Sanji is still the same and even more effected by women, which I can understand totally. But people who thought that as "power up" are the same who think he will have a split personality Okama mode or uses Iva's hell wink with his covered eye, Zoro having MIhawkgan or Usopp doesn't being scared anymore and maybe even monster level. That it makes no sense story-wise and character-wise isn't interesting. Oda is letting Sanji say… I'll refuse and won't ever dress again... People say he will. Sanji says I won't learn Okama Kempo cuz I'm a manly man.... People say he will use Okama Kempo. Seriously… It is not that alone. This year was the worst year with the stupist theories I ever read. I hope next year will be better.
Cool, but… Sanji ll be an Okama WUAHAUHAUHAUAHU ! :devil: Okama King! :devil:
Well to be honest I didn't want to quote you but the 2010ers I was just to lazy to change it
LOL, Hei old 2007… How r u? To lazy ah? to old... I know I know... Sry... But now it's 2010 and 2010s rule here! Rejoin next year and u ll have ur turn to rule, now just accept Sanji as Okama King....
@Mex:
LOL, Hei old 2007… How r u? To lazy ah? to old... I know I know... Sry... But now it's 2010 and 2010s rule here! Rejoin next year and u ll have ur turn to rule, now just accept Sanji as Okama King....
Ahh yeah of course… Are you brennen or what do you rule?
But I accept you as well at my awesome list^^