he probably will, i'm just surprised Usopp didn't fall for it (even though he kinda did at first)
Chapter 600: "The Island of Restarting" Discussion
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Yes but as Rayleigh himself said, you can't train COC to increase it's strength, and just because Ray was older and more powerful in other areas doesn't mean his COC was stronger. Also who says he was using his COC at full strength in the auction house.
Exactly. Even then, when Rayleigh released his haki in the auction house, he wasn't discriminating, with the exception of the Strawhats. So, he included the Heart and Kid pirates in that release.
No matter how much control Rayleigh had, Kidd and Law (and their respective crews, with the exception of one of Law's) took that release and didn't falter. This could just be due to their own resolve, and not due to how strong Rayleigh's CoC was.
Which brings it back to Tsukishima's comment. If Luffy knocked the fake SH's out with his burst, they're fodder.
To put in perspective, Shanks appeared on Whitebeard's ship with his CoC in full effect, not as a burst like Luffy or Rayleigh. He was revealing it that whole time he walked on the ship, and people were dropping (not to mention the ship was cracking because of it), but most of them withstood it; and this isn't including the division captains. Unless people're trying to imply that everyone on WB's ship has bounties over 100 Million beli, I don't think Luffy's anywhere near Shanks level. I'm sure he still has more room for growth to that level. Which, again, brings it back to the Fakes being knocked out because they have no resolve; ie., they're fodder.
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@Muda:
To put in perspective, Shanks appeared on Whitebeard's ship with his CoC in full effect, not as a burst like Luffy or Rayleigh. He was revealing it that whole time he walked on the ship, and people were dropping (not to mention the ship was cracking because of it), but most of them withstood it; and this isn't including the division captains. Unless people're trying to imply that everyone on WB's ship has bounties over 100 Million beli, I don't think Luffy's anywhere near Shanks level. I'm sure he still has more room for growth to that level. Which, again, brings it back to the Fakes being knocked out because they have no resolve; ie., they're fodder.
Two things, first, I completely agree that the Fluffy and co. are fodder, I was just pointing out that the evidence doesn't prove that to be the case. Second, in Shanks crew, at least, a bounty head of near 100 mil was just a rookie, about half the crew members on WB's ship fell, I would think that the remaining were some of the best, especially considering they were on WB's own ship.
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sleepyfan is the only one working on it now to the best of my knowledge. Mangastream dropped it for w.e reasons they gave. Probably cause they are only used to working with "10 words a page" Mangas with the exception of OP which is in high demand.
but you can find bakuman in pretty much any existing manga site.
I usually use Mangareader.com atm. You have to do it on mute though cause they have annoying auto play commercials for cleaning products and such every few pages.
However Oda explains it my only real hope for Brook is he doesn't go back to wearing his awesome suits and adopts a real Rockstar image throughout the rest of the manga to couple with his rock star attitude.
**@FLuffy (Oct 2010)
Shouldn't you have Fluffy image as an avatar? 0.o**
Eh, he's too ugly lol. and shh.. dont say oct. 2010 it's embarrassing being part of that month :P
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I agree about Brook being able to use music in battle now because he said his music has "power" and because his manager and a few others had that extra joint just like Apoo so he was probably in Apoo's hometown and got taught there. -
Two things, first, I completely agree that the Fluffy and co. are fodder, I was just pointing out that the evidence doesn't prove that to be the case. Second, in Shanks crew, at least, a bounty head of near 100 mil was just a rookie, about half the crew members on WB's ship fell, I would think that the remaining were some of the best, especially considering they were on WB's own ship.
I was just making a comparison between Luffy knocking out fakes posing as other well-known rookies (instead of having their own bounties) compared to Shanks, a yonkou known to possess CoC, knocking out another yonkou's crewmates. You can't compare the two, I understand that (maybe I shouldn't have made the comparison originally). But, like I've said before, I don't think Luffy's CoC is anywhere near Shanks or maybe even Rayleigh's level.
With that said, to speculate that Luffy might be able to knock out 100mil+ rookies would be too early. Rayleigh didn't do it 2 years ago, I don't think Luffy could suddenly do it 2 years later. Though, he definitely has room to grow…
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Eh, he's too ugly lol. and shh.. dont say oct. 2010 it's embarrassing being part of that month :P
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I agree about Brook being able to use music in battle now because he said his music has "power" and because his manager and a few others had that extra joint just like Apoo so he was probably in Apoo's hometown and got taught there.I think what he refers by power, its not something Physical that can do destructive damage, i think its related to Psychic/Hypnotiz Power (Just like latfite, his Oppenent on BB Vs SH battle). Brook has shown potential there like Making People Asleep, Rise their Spirit (like he did to that Im-hungry tribe)….etc
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Behold and Awe! For It Is The Will Of D.
@Muda:
But, like I've said before, I don't think Luffy's CoC is anywhere near Shanks or maybe even Rayleigh's level.
With that said, to speculate that Luffy might be able to knock out 100mil+ rookies would be too early. Rayleigh didn't do it 2 years ago, I don't think Luffy could suddenly do it 2 years later. Though, he definitely has room to grow…
Rayleigh said himself that;
@Rayleigh:"The Color Of The Conqueror…cannot be trained and strengthened, even if you are able to control it. This power is measured by it's user's spirit and nothing more…!! It can only be reinforced through personal growth"
So in essence, it is by ones spirit, or dare I say Will…, that determines the power of a users CoC. Countless number of times throughout the series we have seen people (and we ourselves) awe over how strong Luffy's will is...even high tier friends AND foes cannot ignore the amazing Will that Luffy has displayed throughout his endeavors, hell it was even mentioned in the War that Luffy's Will is what pulls in people to follow him. We then came across how the Will Of D. is of a special lineage that possesses such a special spirit, or Will. Luffy is of this lineage…Shanks and Rayleigh are not.
With all this considered, it's fair game for Luffy's CoC to be stronger than those we know and/or will meet...since it's based on Will. I am not saying for a FACT that it IS but also that it IS NOT.
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I think what he refers by power, its not something Physical that can do destructive damage, i think its related to Psychic/Hypnotiz Power (Just like latfite, his Oppenent on BB Vs SH battle). Brook has shown potential there like Making People Asleep, Rise their Spirit (like he did to that Im-hungry tribe)….etc
Nicely said…..
I will never understand those simpletons who think everything's got to do with "physical" power.
lolz ^^
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Actually, Whitebeard said that the government could kill everyone of that lineage, but that the Will won't be destroyed. So while the blood has some significance, there's more to it.
I think Luffy's CoC is already significantly strong. Shanks had a line like "fight, and laugh, and lose, and cry. That's how you grow as a man." Up until recently Luffy hadn't really done the last two. So he had already grown significantly before the training in haki. While the 2 years didn't help him get stronger in its use, it likely taught him to use it consciously.
Though something as subjective as CoC is difficult to measure.
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Ehh, wasn't Brook's "power" comment meant to imply that it has influence? IE: The 'power' to reach a persons heart or mind. That sort of thing.
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Ehh, wasn't Brook's "power" comment meant to imply that it has influence? IE: The 'power' to reach a persons heart or mind. That sort of thing.
this is off topic.. but I'll reply.
we've seen him reach the heart of the fans in the island because they thought of him as the "SOUL KING" not as a pirate, so the question is.. will his "power" influence other people who don't know him or hate him.
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this is off topic.. but I'll reply.
how is talking about something that happened in the chapter in a thread ABOUT the chapter off topic?
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@dirt:
how is talking about something that happened in the chapter in a thread ABOUT the chapter off topic?
you see, every chapter after the time-skip and for some reason turn to a HAKI discussion, and the topic at hand is how bad 2010 posters are.. you see!!
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Ehh, wasn't Brook's "power" comment meant to imply that it has influence? IE: The 'power' to reach a persons heart or mind. That sort of thing.
i was thinking he meant that his musical attacks were more powerful
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Ehh, wasn't Brook's "power" comment meant to imply that it has influence? IE: The 'power' to reach a persons heart or mind. That sort of thing.
16 Character of Bull eye.
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Ehh, wasn't Brook's "power" comment meant to imply that it has influence? IE: The 'power' to reach a persons heart or mind. That sort of thing.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he meant. Why else would it show all of the fans helping him after it?
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Is it just me or did some of the posts get deleted? Never mind… isn't just me
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Wtf, the post I was editing got deleted. Got to fucking post the whole shit again.
@brennen.exe:Ehh, wasn't Brook's "power" comment meant to imply that it has influence? IE: The 'power' to reach a persons heart or mind. That sort of thing.
Depending on the translation it varies from "power" to "strength". Don't know much about the Japanese Language but Oda probably made it a bit ambiguous on purpose. You could be right though.
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I think Brook is like a Bard. He can inspire his allies with music making stronger, or can revive them with hope. To his enemies he can demoralize them and make them weaker through intimidating music.
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They're both dripping wet?
yes they are both dripping wet and they are both staring someone down.
oh and karibou reminds me of a piimp named slickback.
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My prediction: At the beginning of the chapter, Luffy being Luffy will make some stupid comment to the fake SHs and Fluffy will be like, "Don't make a full out of me", and orders everyone to attack Luffy. There will be a tense moment when everyone is on edge, but this is interrupted by the sound of two bozos arguing. Guess who. If you guessed Zoro and Sanji, give yourself a pat in the back. They will see what Luffy is up against and say to leave it to them. They will turn to each other and say "2 seconds" and wipe out the fodder instantaneously as Luffy watches with stars in his eyes. Elsewhere, Brook will finally join the rest of the strawhats and head toward Grove 46, where they will encounter the ship carrying the backup marines (Sentomaru and PXs). The SHs challenge will be to hold them off until the power trio get there and then they will dive for Fishman Island.
I honestly don't think there will be any one on one fights that will last more than a chapter if even that. As soon as they are united on Sunny, they will get their collective asses out of Saobody. So I am guessing five more chapters at most left before Fishman Island. Rejoice people, for I am almost always wrong.
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Wtf, the post I was editing got deleted. Got to fucking post the whole shit again.
Depending on the translation it varies from "power" to "strength". Don't know much about the Japanese Language but Oda probably made it a bit ambiguous on purpose. You could be right though.
One or many of the mods have been Trigger Happy regarding their delete buttons recently.
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My prediction: At the beginning of the chapter, Luffy being Luffy will make some stupid comment to the fake SHs and Fluffy will be like, "Don't make a full out of me", and orders everyone to attack Luffy. There will be a tense moment when everyone is on edge, but this is interrupted by the sound of two bozos arguing. Guess who. If you guessed Zoro and Sanji, give yourself a pat in the back. They will see what Luffy is up against and say to leave it to them. They will turn to each other and say "2 seconds" and wipe out the fodder instantaneously as Luffy watches with stars in his eyes. Elsewhere, Brook will finally join the rest of the strawhats and head toward Grove 46, where they will encounter the ship carrying the backup marines (Sentomaru and PXs). The SHs challenge will be to hold them off until the power trio get there and then they will dive for Fishman Island.
I honestly don't think there will be any one on one fights that will last more than a chapter if even that. As soon as they are united on Sunny, they will get their collective asses out of Saobody. So I am guessing five more chapters at most left before Fishman Island. Rejoice people, for I am almost always wrong.
i like it, but the 2 second thing will never happen. they NEVER work together unless they have to. there is probably more of an argument on who takes out more trash.
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My prediction: At the beginning of the chapter, Luffy being Luffy will make some stupid comment to the fake SHs and Fluffy will be like, "Don't make a full out of me", and orders everyone to attack Luffy. There will be a tense moment when everyone is on edge, but this is interrupted by the sound of two bozos arguing. Guess who. If you guessed Zoro and Sanji, give yourself a pat in the back. They will see what Luffy is up against and say to leave it to them. They will turn to each other and say "2 seconds" and wipe out the fodder instantaneously as Luffy watches with stars in his eyes. Elsewhere, Brook will finally join the rest of the strawhats and head toward Grove 46, where they will encounter the ship carrying the backup marines (Sentomaru and PXs). The SHs challenge will be to hold them off until the power trio get there and then they will dive for Fishman Island.
I honestly don't think there will be any one on one fights that will last more than a chapter if even that. As soon as they are united on Sunny, they will get their collective asses out of Saobody. So I am guessing five more chapters at most left before Fishman Island. Rejoice people, for I am almost always wrong.
that works out well except they will have to face off against sentomaru and PX5 + PX7 but their just gonna finish that in like 1 chapter after which we all go to fishman island. there they face off against some sort of trouble probably involving the marines, hachi and caimie after which . . . NEW BOUNTIES FOR EVERYONE!!
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My prediction: At the beginning of the chapter, Luffy being Luffy will make some stupid comment to the fake SHs and Fluffy will be like, "Don't make a full out of me", and orders everyone to attack Luffy.
Oh I get it. You said don't make a full out of me because Luffy is always hungry! Right?
Nice pun.
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So, Franky can have his old hairstyle any time he wants, but he chooses to keep the shaved look? Is that a slap across the face to anyone else?
Also, I hope no one is taking this Caribou brothers (or whatever their names are) seriously just cause they got high bounties and are ruthless. They're losers. They're not going to be anything, the fact their character designs are awful and they joined Fluffy is proof enough of this. Hope there really aren't any fanboys/girls of these guys…
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you see, every chapter after the time-skip and for some reason turn to a HAKI discussion, and the topic at hand is how bad 2010 posters are.. you see!!
I just joined these forums last week (i think) but I really hope this doesn't become a Haki conversation, last chapter it turned into a religion conversation and all the post were moved to a thread called "Why is my Religion False?", even my "stop talking about religion and get back to one piece comment".
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I didn't read all the posts, so sorry if any one already said this, but I'm going to call it:
Coribou's Lizard has a DF… (I'm kind of jokin')Also, I loved Brooke's little speech, he is a pure Straw Hat and shame to the ones who still think he isn't important and could leave the crew if he wanted :< (Not including Franky in this group, xD)
Chopper's Walk Point is awesome, I guess is Heavy Point will be the same, just stronger, but all the Points that combine reindeer and human characteristics, as in the Rumble Points, changed...
I just can't imagine how awesome horn point will be, reindeer's are the animals with the bigger horns, now imagine that in One Piece World :<.Lol'd at 7th... And that little skirmish remembered me of Sengoku Basara... Aura's explosion for the win!
And last but not least, Franky, love this new gadgets, and he is reserving the best for when Luffy arrives-mecha.
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@Mono631:
Oh I get it. You said don't make a full out of me because Luffy is always hungry! Right?
Nice pun.
Yeah, that was completely intended. :ninja:
But the 2 seconds thing where they compete, Zoro and Sanji did it in Loguetown and Arabasta. I want Oda to bring it back. Also with Sentomaru and the PXs. I don't think they will have a proper one on one fight. The PXs will probably end up getting destroyed in the process of the SHs escaping, but Sentomaru won't be defeated until whatever arc Vegapunk will be in. I am not saying that the strawhats are incapable of defeating Sentomaru or any current marine or pirate on Saobody, I am just saying that is not their priority.
Lastly, I have to say that I got chills when I read Brook's speech. He really is bad to the bone. (another pun. I am on a roll today)
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I haven't read much of this thread, but I haven't seen anyone else wondering the same thing as myself….
What's in Ussops barrels?!
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Scott's Weed n' Feed! lol
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What's in Ussops barrels?!
ALL THE NEW NAKAMA.
I think what I loved about this chapter was imagining how sick Brook's songs will be in the anime. "NEW WORLDDDDDDDD"
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Someone prolly said this, and someone prolly answered this… but hey,
Is Zoro's eye opened in the cover? It looks like it when I'm reading the scanlation from mangastream/binktopia :/
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Someone prolly said this, and someone prolly answered this… but hey,
Is Zoro's eye opened in the cover? It looks like it when I'm reading the scanlation from mangastream/binktopia :/
It looked like the scar was going over the eyelid
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Someone prolly said this, and someone prolly answered this… but hey,
Is Zoro's eye opened in the cover? It looks like it when I'm reading the scanlation from mangastream/binktopia :/
Some people are just saying it's the shadowing of the cover.
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Zoro's left eye is NOT opened in the cover page. Look closely.
Top of the eye = eyelid crease
Bottom of the eye = eyelash/closed eye
middle of the eye = scarThe angle and the smallness of the image, as well as mangastreams poor cleaning technique makes it look like his eye is open, but if you look closer you can still tell it's not.
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No. It isn't open.
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Speaking of the cover, what is he reading? The pictures within the picture are too blurry…
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Speaking of the cover, what is he reading? The pictures within the picture are too blurry…
He's reading "1001 ways to kill Perona" :ninja:.
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He's reading "1001 ways to kill Perona" :ninja:.
When I first went through the chapter, I thought it was manga. The second time revealed that it wasn't.
So… is that some sort of robot silhouette there?