What I think that should happen is that Gon get his nen "Resseted" meaning that he has to retrain from zero.
Hunter x Hunter
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If that happens I wouldn't mind Togashi opening the door to changing Gon's hatsu to the specialization nen type. Since his transformation in the first place seems to be leaning towards that.
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It might even be something as simple as Gon sacrificing all his memories of his friends
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I miss Leorio. I give a damn about the series. I insist thaty this series is the same level as One Piece anyway. I'm willing to concede on forums about Naruto or Bleach but not one of my Gods tier manga series.
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@Zik:
If that happens I wouldn't mind Togashi opening the door to changing Gon's hatsu to the specialization nen type. Since his transformation in the first place seems to be leaning towards that.
Gon is Reinforcements type, you probably confused him with Killua (he's Transformation type).
If I remember it correctly, it has been stated that only Manipulation and Materialization can turned into Specialization type at some point in their life. I think Wings stated this, basing on the Nen chart. Both types are the closest to Specialization, whereas Reinforcement (Gon) are the opposite of it. He also said Gon has zero chances of learning Specialization now that I think about it.
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@-wahn-:
Gon is Reinforcements type, you probably confused him with Killua (he's Transformation type).
If I remember it correctly, it has been stated that only Manipulation and Materialization can turned into Specialization type at some point in their life. I think Wings stated this, basing on the Nen chart. Both types are the closest to Specialization, whereas Reinforcement (Gon) are the opposite of it. He also said Gon has zero chances of learning Specialization now that I think about it.
I thought specialization was due to a contract that put one's own life at risk. For example how kurapica can only use his specialization against the spiders, if he were to use it against anyone else, the chain around his heart would pierce killing him instantly.
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@-wahn-:
Gon is Reinforcements type, you probably confused him with Killua (he's Transformation type).
If I remember it correctly, it has been stated that only Manipulation and Materialization can turned into Specialization type at some point in their life. I think Wings stated this, basing on the Nen chart. Both types are the closest to Specialization, whereas Reinforcement (Gon) are the opposite of it. He also said Gon has zero chances of learning Specialization now that I think about it.
I know Gon is reinforcement type. I just said if Togashi does reset Gon's nen like maxterdexter suggested I wouldn't mind if he changed his hatsu to the specialization type.
I then said I don't see how this transformation really falls in line with reinforcement type but leans to specialization imo since the transformation doesn't match any of the other 5 types either.
I don't recall anybody saying Gon could never use specialization (I'll check it out when I reread). I know that a nen user won't be able to use certain types of hatsu as good as their main type if their type is father away from it on the chart like you said.
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In fact the transformation is turning into the strongest that he can be, if that isn't reinforcement… It is reinforcement.
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Well that's hax as fuck and if that's really some uber special reinforcement ability there really shouldn't be much of a downside to it since the only condition for attaining it was wanting it with a whole lot emotion (due to the situation).
At worst, he stays that way.
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We still don't know what exactly was needed for gon to obtain it.
Besides the type of nen ability and the restrictions/conditions that you set up it with doesn't matter, I can say that as a reinforcement type I can recover any selfinflicted injury, as a transmutation type that my aura can become nutrients and eat it, but just me, as an emission that I can only emit from my feet, all to enhance the skill.
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@Zik:
I know Gon is reinforcement type. I just said if Togashi does reset Gon's nen like maxterdexter suggested I wouldn't mind if he changed his hatsu to the specialization type.
I guess I got confuse seeing you put Gon and Transformation type together.
Regarding the idea of him changing his hatsu to Specialization type, somehow I doubt that to happen. Mainly because I just don't see Gon using unique type of abilities (since Specialization type are known to have unique abilities/properties) rather than the straight forward abilities (Jajanken) that fits his character. It's possible, but seems a bit OOC if it happen.
I then said I don't see how this transformation really falls in line with reinforcement type but leans to specialization imo since the transformation doesn't match any of the other 5 types either.
I'm not sure about Transformation leans more on Specialization. Togashi organize the chart for a specific reason. It was said Materialization and Manipulation leans more on Specialization and we got Kurapika to prove that.
What do you mean by transformation doesn't match the other five types though?
I don't recall anybody saying Gon could never use specialization (I'll check it out when I reread). I know that a nen user won't be able to use certain types of hatsu as good as their main type if their type is father away from it on the chart like you said.
My mistake, the statement were made toward Kurapika during his training, not Gon.
http://read.mangashare.com/Hunter-x-Hunter/chapter-083/page004.html
This were made consistent in the later development when Biscuit is trained Gon in Greed Island.
http://read.mangashare.com/Hunter-x-Hunter/chapter-144/page012.html
Not sure about the translation uses on that page because my volumes said "except/excluding Specialization type" instead of the vague "Specialization is something else".
@GEPPETTOMONSTER:
I thought specialization was due to a contract that put one's own life at risk. For example how kurapica can only use his specialization against the spiders, if he were to use it against anyone else, the chain around his heart would pierce killing him instantly.
Kurapika are only Specialization type when his eyes turn red. When he is in normal state, he is Materialization type. This shift happened because of two reason,
1. His Kuruta bloodline.
2. Materialization type are most likely to shift into Specialization since it was placed next to Specialization on the Nen chart.His contract, condition and pledge are more power up, gaining abilities purpose.
The first contract are focusing on Chain Jail ability. The condition for this ability is he cannot use it against other people except the Ryodan. He also added a second condition (because he wants an unbreakable chain); putting his life on the line if he use it against other people.
The second contract are the ability he acquired whenever he turned his eyes red a.k.a when he shifted into Specialization type.
The first one is to have 100% efficiency of all Nen type ability. In his normal/Materialization mode (without the red eyes), he can only use 100% Materialization, 80% Transformation, 60% Reinforcement, 60% Manipulation and 40% Emission.
The second one is the Judgment Chain ability. He can only use this ability when his eyes turns red (when he's in Specialization mode). The consequences of him using his red eyes is if he use his red eyes for too long, he will be bedridden (got a fever) for several days (similar to Kakashi overusing Sharingan).
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There's no "Transformation type" is transmutation, and it doesn't include transformation of matter or the body of the user, just giving properties and and abilities to the aura.
Anything that includes turning something into something else (neither aura or something that they manifested) then would be specialization.
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Yeah when I say transformation I'm talking about his LITERAL transformation in to a grown ass man.
@-wahn-:Regarding the idea of him changing his hatsu to Specialization type, somehow I doubt that to happen. Mainly because I just don't see Gon using unique type of abilities (since Specialization type are known to have unique abilities/properties) rather than the straight forward abilities (Jajanken) that fits his character. It's possible, but seems a bit OOC if it happen.
Well I'm going off of Gon's nen being reset which I mentioned before.
If Gon got specialization after this event he doesn't have to turn it in to some super creative heavily detailed ability. To keep it simple he could just make himself exclusively use reinforcemnet type again so he can use his old abilities and then Togashi could tack on some special ability and condition to keep it in line with specialization. Just how Kurapika specialization ability allows him to be 100% in ever hatsu type under the condition of when he's facing Genei Ryodan.
I'm not sure about Transformation leans more on Specialization. Togashi organize the chart for a specific reason. It was said Materialization and Manipulation leans more on Specialization and we got Kurapika to prove that.
I'm saying the fact that he literally transformed doesn't fit the other hatsu types. So I'd assume it might be specialization.
What do you mean by transformation doesn't match the other five types though?
Well maxterdexter already answered this but transformation isn't a hatsu type. I think you're confusing that with transmuter.
My mistake, the statement were made toward Kurapika during his training, not Gon.
http://read.mangashare.com/Hunter-x-Hunter/chapter-083/page004.html
This were made consistent in the later development when Biscuit is trained Gon in Greed Island.
http://read.mangashare.com/Hunter-x-Hunter/chapter-144/page012.html
Not sure about the translation uses on that page because my volumes said "except/excluding Specialization type" instead of the vague "Specialization is something else".
The translation is wrong there with Killula being a transformation type. All scans I read have called it transmutation.
http://hunterxhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Nen -
I still think that Gon used an Extreme reinforcement, rather than straight up Transformation, as he got something that he would have obtained naturaly with time, and reinforced his body to the max.
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Did you guys know that, without mentioning a name, Oda basically held Togashi down and shat down his throat in an interview with Liar Game's author?
The more you know
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Did you guys know that, without mentioning a name, Oda basically held Togashi down and shat down his throat in an interview with Liar Game's author?
The more you know
Wait, what? You will translate this one?
… Oda is somewhat too critical of his peers lately. I mean, Kishi Kubo deserve it for their Shoujos and Togashi <looks at="" title="">, and Oda is almost super human in his work habits and skills but just trow shit to his cooworkers, even if it's anonymous it isn't nice.</looks>
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Yeah, this I have to see.
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@Zik:
Just how Kurapika specialization ability allows him to be 100% in ever hatsu type under the condition of when he's facing Genei Ryodan.
Kurapika is 100% in every hatsu type whenever he has his red eyes (specialization), no matter who he faces.
Chain jail is the only thing he can't use against a non Ryodan, in exchange of his life. This condition is made to make the chains unbreakable by brute force.I'm saying the fact that he literally transformed doesn't fit the other hatsu types. So I'd assume it might be specialization.
It depends on the type of transformation. Cause if my hunch is right and his transformation is non-reversable (unlike Biske) then it could be just due to reinforcement. He made his cells grow super fast. example of this could be the super fast healing of Kurapika due to reinforcement haki
Well maxterdexter already answered this but transformation isn't a hatsu type. I think you're confusing that with transmuter.
The translation is wrong there with Killula being a transformation type. All scans I read have called it transmutation.
http://hunterxhunter.wikia.com/wiki/NenOfficial viz translation? , cause all the scans I've read said transformation (and the official french translation too).
It's kind of logical; users can transform their nen into something else, electricity, smoke, gum, etc..
Seeking infinity, with all my affinities.
Finding truth, like a falling fruit, my ultimate finality.
Inside my being, the outside, all things; the finite leads the way.
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Did you guys know that, without mentioning a name, Oda basically held Togashi down and shat down his throat in an interview with Liar Game's author?
The more you know
How are you not going to post whatever he said.
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He's probably trying to make us hear the podcast…
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Oda shitting on Togashi? Outside of Oda being a fan of HxH I could see him simply being mad cuz he works his ass off while Togashi seemingly is getting a free pass until whenever he feels like continuing and ending the series.
Other than that I don't see why he'd send and indirect diss.
@Mugiwara_no_Ice:Kurapika is 100% in every hatsu type whenever he has his red eyes (specialization), no matter who he faces.
Chain jail is the only thing he can't use against a non Ryodan, in exchange of his life. This condition is made to make the chains unbreakable by brute force.Yeah I'm rusty on the details. It's been a long time for me so I'm currently rereading lol.
It depends on the type of transformation. Cause if my hunch is right and his transformation is non-reversable (unlike Biske) then it could be just due to reinforcement. He made his cells grow super fast. example of this could be the super fast healing of Kurapika due to reinforcement haki
Yeah, I've seen this theory and it's good and logical but I was just continuing on with if what I'm saying happens to be the case.
Official viz translation? , cause all the scans I've read said transformation (and the official french translation too).
It's kind of logical; users can transform their nen into something else, electricity, smoke, gum, etc..
I guess. I remember when I first read it, it was transmutation. There's still a couple scans online that have it that way now but if it's already official then I can see how more confusing my post could've been
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@Zik:
I guess. I remember when I first read it, it was transmutation. There's still a couple scans online that have it that way now but if it's already official then I can see how more confusing my post could've been
No, you misunderstood. I asked if transmutation was the official viz translation.
Cause I never read it in any scanlation so far.
The official french translation however has it translated as transformation. (I think if I'm not wrong, that the first english scanlations of hxh were translated from the french volumes iso the raws.)Seeking infinity, with all my affinities.
Finding truth, like a falling fruit, my ultimate finality.
Inside my being, the outside, all things; the finite leads the way.
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No, you misunderstood. I asked if transmutation was the official viz translation.
Cause I never read it in any scanlation so far.
The official french translation however has it translated as transformation. (I think if I'm not wrong, that the first english scanlations of hxh were translated from the french volumes iso the raws.)Oh well I'm not sure what's official. I was under the assumption the correct translation was transmutation/transmuter not transformation cuz when I started reading it that's how it was. I think I was reading it on mangahut (not sure what team were providing them with chaps though).
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Actualy I can see why Oda would get peeved , because as you say he works his arse off week after week .
Also Greg you know my conection is so shity I can't watch videos or stream MP3's especialy now when those bastards slowed it down to 1997 speed level !
YOU ARE TEARING ME APART GREG !
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It makes more sense transmutation, because when you think transformation, you think the body of the user, and transmutation has more to do with changing properties of matter.
And yes, greg is currently very evil.
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Greg has now become
TOMMY WISSEAU !
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No, you misunderstood. I asked if transmutation was the official viz translation.
Cause I never read it in any scanlation so far.
The official french translation however has it translated as transformation. (I think if I'm not wrong, that the first english scanlations of hxh were translated from the french volumes iso the raws.)I just checked, Transmutation is the official viz translation
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I just checked, Transmutation is the official viz translation
Ah ok thanks. Transmutation, it makes sence.
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Yeah, I really wanna see Oda's comment on Togashi. I personally think story-wise Togashi is far superior to Oda, though both OP and HXH are great. Chances are that Oda's comment had something to do with the hiatuses; him criticizing the story or the art (the current art anyway) would be pretty dumb.
also why did Oda even bother criticizing Kishimoto… though I haven't read the interview, it sounds like unnecessary flaming. It's like when Stephen King criticized the author of those Twilight books. Yes, both Naruto and Twilight are bad, but Oda and Stephen King aren't really that good of writers.
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The criticism was that an author should make the story their own, when they hear too much the fans (like "oh, shrimpo is so dreamy, put him in every arc!" or "ky~~~~aaaaa I love sasuke-kun he's so kawaii!!") the story stops being theirs. And also that most people who writes the authors are the girls (boys don't like writting letters) so most sugestions for a shonnen story would be from girls, not the target audience.
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Oh, alright, that's a bit more acceptable.
Considering Togashi doesn't really do that shit, it should be interesting to see what Oda has to say.
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That's what I like about the genius mangaka such as Togashi, Toriyama and Oda. Togashi keeps writing good stuff, he only pisses off fans because of hiatus, ok sometimes art but that depends on the fan, I don't give a crap about it. Oda too does whatever the hell he wants anyway.
Toriyama did but fan pressure instead of being all Sasuke-kun or Hisugaya-sama or whatever the fangirls and boys scream, the fans actually pressured him into creating more awesome arcs.
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They also pressured him into keeping Goku as the main character. He tried to get Gohan as the new main character.
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True, but Mystic Gohan was awesome, although mystic ssj would have blew my mind… Ah it's nice that something like DB, OP or HxH can never sink to Bleach levels.
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Goku always should have been the main character. No doubt.
Also, the DBZ anime needs to be redone. No filler or drawn out IM GATHERING MY CHI scenes. Just really fast paced (like it's supposed to be) fight scenes with great art.
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Also, the DBZ anime needs to be redone. No filler or drawn out IM GATHERING MY CHI scenes. Just really fast paced (like it's supposed to be) fight scenes with great art.
Isn't that basically just Dragonball Kai?
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Well Goku is my overall fuirst favourite manga character in manga and anime so I agree lol.
@Bucephalus: Isn't that what kai was supposed to be? I wouldn't know I stopped watching it.
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I didn't even know there was something called Dragon Ball Z Kai.
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Yeah it's a redone version of the Z anime. There's no filler.
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I didn't even know there was something called Dragon Ball Z Kai.
Casualy, it is just what you described. Haven't seen it myself. Where they are at?
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They're at the cyborgs, Piccolo and co got their asses whooped.
But tbh it isn't what it's supposed to be, sure there's no filler but they didn't redo the scenes themselves.
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also why did Oda even bother criticizing Kishimoto… though I haven't read the interview, it sounds like unnecessary flaming. It's like when Stephen King criticized the author of those Twilight books. Yes, both Naruto and Twilight are bad, but Oda and Stephen King aren't really that good of writers.
Wait when did this happen
Link?
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Wait when did this happen
Link?
Ehm, Go to Greg's thread. Is in one of Oda's interviews of Strong World and one of the sbs of ID/the war volumes.
Togashi's, greg still haven't said where it is.
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pretty sure he didn't bash anyone, someone just asked him about if fan's ever give him idea's ect and he said basically 'hell no, i have my story and i won't change it regardless of fan wants or dislikes'
people just make a connection out of nowhere, because kubo said in interviews before that he has done some things or kept a character ect due to fans
its like if Oda was asked about his feelings on the color red, and he says he hates it. meanwhile kubo says he loves red. somehow this is translated into oda dissing kubo
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Ah yeah that's what I thought leave it to Arlong Park to treat hearsay and speculation as facts
It's too bad though it'd have been pretty hilarious if he cited Kishimoto by name
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Wait, what? You will translate this one?
… Oda is somewhat too critical of his peers lately. I mean, Kishi Kubo deserve it for their Shoujos and Togashi <looks at="" title="">, and Oda is almost super human in his work habits and skills but just trow shit to his cooworkers, even if it's anonymous it isn't nice.</looks>
I didn't even read the interview/whatever where he criticized him
just went off this post
WONDERFUL INSINUATING
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Isn't that basically just Dragonball Kai?
Kai's nice but it would of been better if they'd actually re-animate the show. Than it would feel like a new series. DBK just feels like what teamfourstars show feels like.
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I didn't even read the interview/whatever where he criticized him
just went off this post
WONDERFUL INSINUATING
Whatever, I even pointed out where I read it, from a reliable source, I don't go search it because I don't remember, and greg will (most likely) do it when he reads back this thread.
Besides, It's not a great leap of logic to point out that he's talking about authors who change things on their plots on fan's whims and are more female fanservice oriented.
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It's considered proper etiquette when you've been exposed as being full of shit to stop insisting that you're right
