I'm also sick of discussing with you, if it makes you feel any better, but not because of you, its simple because we're going in circles
So where are they? These ppl that you claim agree with you?
What's that even supposed to mean?
It means there can still be fights with logias as interesting as they can be.
Not necessarily intangibility
So your problem has nothing to do with bypassing the logia defense since Luffy could use those mirrors you find so interesting and haki to fight Kizaru.
Yeah, lol.
I'm not sure where you're going with this
You were the one that went off topic with Smoker. You didn't understand what I previously said and changed your response to something I wasn't even talking about.
No, its funny because its wrong
Lies
This discussion got so pointless you're actually aggressive when I fail at remembering a date.
Not my fault you didn't remember and embellished your statements to make it seem more reasonable.
How could you possible imagine that "Derp" means that I agree with you?
Cuz you have no better response. You're basically saying "I concede"
Although they're obviously incomparable
That's all that matters. Making bullshit comparisons and saying they're both annoying is a poor argument.
That he'l still be a ragdoll to guys like Akainu by the time he gets to fight them
Again show me where Akainu is training and getting more powerful. The whole point of these battles and what ppl like Croc and Moria have told him is that he's not ready and isn't strong enough. Eventually he's going to catch up. This is what the entire war indicated and the recent chap. You're making a dumbass assumption based on nothing when you say Luffy will be a ragdoll by the time he fights Akainu when you have no idea when they'll fight.
Luffy bypassing Logias with an easy way out is annoying and goes against what Oda established in the beginning (YOU CAN'T TOUCH LOGIAS, OMG)
It's time to come to the present.
The Shichibukais were established from the beginning fairly well with Crocodile, and any twists on them would be related to the story, as I'm discussing combat.
You're missing the point. I'm still talking combat. Just as Oda hyped up the the logias(not to the degree in your mind OMG LOGIAS CAN'T BE TOUCHED!) he has hyped the shichi up to be elite pirates as far as fights go. We saw how Luffy struggled and lost to Croc and how desperate he was against Moria. After that they're no longer on the same plateau from when they were first introduced. This is how the story progresses. Oda's not going to keep one thing at the top until the end. That's boring. He creates new obstacles for the main characters to tackle.
Meaning, they'd have to somehow turn out to be Pirates that are weak to rubber for you to be able to compare the plot progression of both.
No it doesn't dumbass. Logia users' defense not being a factor against Luffy using haki does not make them weak. If you believe that this opinion is actually dumber than I thought.
I'm not in those millions, which is what this entire wall of text boils down to
Nobody can make you like good story telling.
I still do, but it'd make Kizaru completely invincible and would make me contradict myself
So stupid things are interesting to you. This is the core of your argument.
Oda could pull it off
And it'd become boring and repititve if he did do it for the rest of the story.
I know its not the same thing, that's why I said its varied with the battles that would be against logias and exploring weaknesses
It's not a variation. "That fight is not a variation of what we're talking about. This isn't just about Luffy being down and out and then rallying to win cuz that's still going to happen even when he uses haki. This is about him suddenly figuring out a logia's weakness and then beating them that way which would just be a bore."
That's because I'm not Oda.
So it is a baseless opinion.
He probably did until he fell to the ground and was still alive
Luffy falling to the ground doesn't stop Enel's mantra from working.
It'd just add one good layer of tension, are you really that worried about losing 5 chapters to a concept as good as
As good as something predictable, repetitive and lame? I'm not worried. I'm telling you why this is a terrible idea.
Oda can always add more layers with different factors.
Prove you with what?
I dunno you made the claim. You should be able to prove it.
But one, nonetheless, that will be completely ignored from now on
For a good reason. That's a good thing.
He'l be the underdog of the most important battles, most likely
And haki won't effect that AT ALL.