So he's a bad author for not making her actions comepletely obvious? Yet when it is obvious like the Erza situation you'll also complain? It seems like you just want to complain because it's become the cool thing to do in this thread.
Fairy Tail
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Nah, this arc is just legitamately shitty.
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I agree, but not for the reasons he stated.
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Its pretty obvious that Hiro doesnt even care.
And yes..I dont think he even planned it, it was just a way to end this up quickly.
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What makes you say it wasn't planned? She had an intro like everyone else did.
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She was character with almost no screentime and seemed like the solution of the moment.
I am not sure maybe the editors pushed him to go on with the arc quickly. -
Those editors are real ball busters then. They want to crank out each of these arcs at the speed of light.
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Now that I think about it, why didn't Erza make off with Knightwalker's weapon too? She already stripped her of her clothes, why not go the whole hog?
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Pretty good chapter. Gazille looks like he's having a hard time with Panther Lilly than he thought. My guess is that when he sees the little girl helping natsu and company he'll join in as well.
And I'm interested to see what Faust does exactly.
Next chapter should be good.
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Episode was very good overall, albeit it had some sexual and violence censorships. And they changed the bar into an amusement park that still had wine and poker, lol. And the fat guy in the card was changed into the theme park mascot. I have to honestly say I'm a little disappointed that Lucy wasn't in her skimpy outfit (I'll admit I was looking forward to seeing that animated) but it's no biggie.
Chapter wise, it was a so-so chapter. We all saw it coming, but at least the obvious plan didn't work. I'm mostly interested in the result of Gajeel's battle at this point anyway.
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@Fire Fist:
The manga is much better than the anime. Like any anime, it's toned down for violence. You might try giving it a read, It's a very fun series, contrary to what some would have you believe. Not the best, but certainly not the worst.
I think I will, i mean the anime could be better especially with Natsu's character, i mean i understand he's looking for the only thing that was like a parent to him but you think he would much more deeper anger then that but it doesn't show then he basically destroys everything and i don't like that it makes me take him less seriously but i don't know, Ill watch more of the show and check out the manga see were it goes cause for far I've seen up to episode 4 or 5
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Chapter was decent…am I the only one here who is enjoying this arc for just entertainment?...fucking really, lower your expectations and these low graded manga's become more enjoyable.
random note: Legions are fucking cool looking.
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This chapter was the first great chapter to me in a while and I did lower my expectations but overall, this arc has failed to meet even that low-level bar. I'm not reading manga to be in some kind of metaphorical limbo contest where the lower you go, the better. If the arc is a piece of shit then it's a piece of shit.
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Try reading Wag Wag that tasteless crap will make even bleach look like genius level.
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You have me interested.
Is it ridiculously long? Because I don't mind reading it if it's only 20 chapters or so but if it's long, I don't want to hear about it.
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Yeah what the hell si Wag Wag ?
This arc is not like OS arc which , if you did not read Rave at that time (like me) you had no expectations from the get go . But this whole world building…...and failing at it thing.....yeah .
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Wag Wag is a 4 volume series and it is boring.
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A fucking demon. Seriously, Hiro?
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What makes you say it wasn't planned? She had an intro like everyone else did.
Well then, wheres' the pages revealing her hatred of war, detailing her relationship with Panther Lily, and explaining the fact that she owns a massive flying demon which seemed to be reserved for military personnel?
Boring nonsensical climax is boring. When does the king absorb the DS magic and become a hulking monster for the final fight already.Also, has Natsus flame actually ever burned anyone? FT is generally pretty low on the violence scale, but something about that wing attack having more of a gum gum whip effect seemed kinda off to me.
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i still want to know why there powerless without magic when He tried so hard to show us in the beginning that there strong even without it
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I realy wanna know one thing .
How would Natsu defend against a realy good non magical swordsman ? I mean granted he…..somehow...survived being shot in the mouth , but how would he stop his hands from getting cut off I wonder ?
Also , thank God Knightwalker is not actualy out yet , cause that was the crapiest of the options for this "duh" reveal .
@Tijnn.:
A fucking demon. Seriously, Hiro?
Not my issue here cause we saw Erza fly one of those before .
Speaking of Erza II , why doesn't she attack people together with Sugarboy like some of us may have thought at the begining ?
One thing I wanna see , though doubt it's gonna happen , is Faust ordering Hughes , Sugarboy and that Biro (?) executed for failing to defeat the enemy .
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Such awful predictions…. Even by FT's standards.
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Whose predictions ? Ours or Mashima's ? :ninja:
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Well, props to this author, he used a predictable cliche to lead into a slightly less predictable scenario, one where the only way to save Fairy Tail is gone and now everyone is scrambling to accomplish their goals. The bad guys are bringing out their big guns and the heroes are desperately rushing to save their friend. Currently, this manga is good until it messes up again and goes bad.
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Well, props to this author, he used a predictable cliche to lead into a slightly less predictable scenario, one where the only way to save Fairy Tail is gone and now everyone is scrambling to accomplish their goals. The bad guys are bringing out their big guns and the heroes are desperately rushing to save their friend. Currently, this manga is good until it messes up again and goes bad.
I'm sorry, but…
[rant] Jesus Christ, I am getting so sick of this. Every fucking series except for One Piece… SHUT UP. It's not just you, it's everybody, every day... "Well, this chapter was good, but you know the author will mess up soon... Can you people just enjoy something instead of being the condom-hat wearer for once? It's so grating... It's fine to not like a series, but at least be consistent, please. [/rant]
I actually enjoyed this Chapter. I'm guessing the reason Scarlet didn't take Knightwalker's Spear was because she didn't know how to use it; there'd be no point.
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@Fire Fist:
I'm sorry, but…
[rant] Jesus Christ, I am getting so sick of this. Every fucking series except for One Piece… SHUT UP. It's not just you, it's everybody, every day... "Well, this chapter was good, but you know the author will mess up soon... Can you people just enjoy something instead of being the condom-hat wearer for once? It's so grating... It's fine to not like a series, but at least be consistent, please. [/rant]
I actually enjoyed this Chapter. I'm guessing the reason Scarlet didn't take Knightwalker's Spear was because she didn't know how to use it; there'd be no point.
I have to agree. It's not like One Piece hasn't had its cliched moments. Even if it's far superior to most titles.
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judging by the comments the manga doesn't seem very intersting and predictable
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judging by the comments the manga doesn't seem very intersting and predictable
It's more than you think though. The characters are what make it, IMO.
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I have to agree. It's not like One Piece hasn't had its cliched moments. Even if it's far superior to most titles.
agreed but your on a one piece fan site it's over run with one piece fan boys who don't like other rival series same thing happens if you go to a naruto site or a bleach site maybe even reborn and fairy tail etc etc
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agreed but your on a one piece fan site it's over run with one piece fan boys who don't like other rival series same thing happens if you go to a naruto site or a bleach site maybe even reborn and fairy tail etc etc
Meh. Am I the only one who just likes manga in general? Of course I love One Piece best, but I don't feel the need to shoot down every other Shonen series like most One Piece fans do. (Albeit the fact that Bleach and Naruto deserve it lately)
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There are definitely series out there that are awesome as hell that I rank alongside One Piece.
Deadman Wonderland being one of them.
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@No:
I realy wanna know one thing .
How would Natsu defend against a realy good non magical swordsman ? I mean granted he…..somehow...survived being shot in the mouth , but how would he stop his hands from getting cut off I wonder ?
well considering i think of erza as a swordsman, her swords aren't magical they are normal swords, so he woudl get beat by a big strong swordsman since he gets beat by erza.
but also forget his whole somewhat dragon takeover body he has been doing as we progress, he would just get hard dragon scales that the sword woudl not harm or something.
also wow, some peopel defending this series from the typical come in every weeek and bash anythign not fma or one piece, i'm surprised. maybe there is hope for this forum afterall. i remember starting here and some other one piece site and hearing about the dreaded narutards, but i can't imagine them being any worse than people here
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Meh. Am I the only one who just likes manga in general? Of course I love One Piece best, but I don't feel the need to shoot down every other Shonen series like most One Piece fans do. (Albeit the fact that Bleach and Naruto deserve it lately)
Because Fairytail is not very good at what it's supposed to do. Which is tell an interesting and compelling story set in a world that pushes our imagination and has many different scopes to it. It's just predictable, unoriginal and sometimes rushed. Most of the complaints are justifiable and you should just accept it and shut up.
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Meh. Am I the only one who just likes manga in general? Of course I love One Piece best, but I don't feel the need to shoot down every other Shonen series like most One Piece fans do. (Albeit the fact that Bleach and Naruto deserve it lately)
I'm the same way, but One Piece imo still is the best!!
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This is one piece fan site,What you expect,they will always bashing Fairy tail if you like this manga you do not need to pay attention to his people,that all.
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This arc deserves to be bashed . For all the stuff that could have been done with it , Hiro needs to be smacked in the face for all he left out .
OS arc had no potential and I had no expectations from those horrible characters , Gerard , Wendy and the clichéd weapon of doom that doesn't even have it's working explained and that doesn't even do anything interesting (sure Leon's girl thinks he's dead for a while but that was over prety quickly) .
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Meh. Am I the only one who just likes manga in general? Of course I love One Piece best, but I don't feel the need to shoot down every other Shonen series like most One Piece fans do. (Albeit the fact that Bleach and Naruto deserve it lately)
I'm there with you, although bleach is driving me insane and I no longer look forward to it each week, but I'm still a naruto fan one of the very few of them here although I realize kishi fucks up a lot
and fairy tail is fine, the current arc is boring though
but i still love one piece the best it's my favorite hence why I'm always here
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I was about to like this chapter…then I remembered Edo tail STILL hasn't shown up. at all. WTF, Mashima. it was too predictable and random, and only goes to show he can't seem to build around anyone excpt Natsu and Gray. and before you say Erza, look aback at all her fights-her(arguably) best fight is stil that one where she beatup the eisenwald fodder.
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I agree with Erza fights , hell master Jose , we didn't even see it happen on screen .
Which just makes me realise : Erza is not a main character , she's an extra like all the rest . She only refuses to recognise it and hangs around with Natsu , Lucy and Gray in the hopes of getting some spotlight but every time she is about to fight Hiro moves the camera somewhere else .
However , in this case we have two Erza's and so the one glory hog just couldn't acept being defeated offpanel by herself , so we have her come back !
Also people I have this little project in mind : would anyone be interested in going back to before the Cats were even revealed and instead writing this arc out ourselves like it should have been ? Fanfic form at least , though if anyone would draw that it would be even better of course .
Anyone interested ?
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Chapter was decent…am I the only one here who is enjoying this arc for just entertainment?...fucking really, lower your expectations and these low graded manga's become more enjoyable.
First off, sorry to single you out. Would've done it to the first person I saw. You're actually a decent poster. Now then:
You know, when I visited the site today after reading that bad (not awful) chapter I was almost HOPING someone would bring up that fucktarted logic so I could grind it into the ground.
Lowering expectations to accomodate Fairy Tail's shittyness…. This is reasonable to you? Do you understand that your basically proposing a roundabout way to have readers force themselves to like FT no matter what stupid shit Mashima writes? Ridiculous.
When you first started reading FT, especially those of us who have not touched Rave, did you say to yourself "I'm going to pretend I'm reading part 2 Naruto so I'll be impressed no matter what"? If you're sane I'm guessing no.
Fairy Tail set it's OWN standards with quality or at least decent arcs in the beginning. The Gray vs Leon arc had everything recent arcs didn't: Comprehensible and sensible plot points, DECENT ATTEMPTS AT CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT (gasp!) slim to none Dues ex Machina (gasp gasp!) along with typical Fairy Tail quick pace action and storytelling.
Nobody is asking Fairy Tail to be Berserk, Hunter X Hunter or even One Piece; despite this thread's awful habit of calling everyone a One Piece fanboy, the bashing of these and other far superior series or the super situational comparisons of the Fairy. Everybody knows what to expect from Fairy Tail a fast paced Shounen. It's silly to tell them percieve what they see differently.
@Fire Fist:
I'm guessing the reason Scarlet didn't take Knightwalker's Spear was because she didn't know how to use it; there'd be no point.
It's not like you'd try to disarm an enemy damn near your own strength or anything. You're right, no point.
It's more than you think though. The characters are what make it, IMO
But it makes use of close to none of these characters.
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@No:
I agree with Erza fights , hell master Jose , we didn't even see it happen on screen .
Which just makes me realise : Erza is not a main character , she's an extra like all the rest . She only refuses to recognise it and hangs around with Natsu , Lucy and Gray in the hopes of getting some spotlight but every time she is about to fight Hiro moves the camera somewhere else .
However , in this case we have two Erza's and so the one glory hog just couldn't acept being defeated offpanel by herself , so we have her come back !
Also people I have this little project in mind : would anyone be interested in going back to before the Cats were even revealed and instead writing this arc out ourselves like it should have been ? Fanfic form at least , though if anyone would draw that it would be even better of course .
Anyone interested ?
I'm actually thinking about doing one where it's after the Exheed where turned to Lacyrma but before Erza and Gray showed up. It wail;l show what Gazelle did when he was sucked up by anima and have more screen time for Edo Tail. also, I'm planning on making Faust an evil SOB.
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@SSM:
First off, sorry to single you out. Would've done it to the first person I saw. You're actually a decent poster. Now then:
You know, when I visited the site today after reading that bad (not awful) chapter I was almost HOPING someone would bring up that fucktarted logic so I could grind it into the ground.
Lowering expectations to accomodate Fairy Tail's shittyness…. This is reasonable to you? Do you understand that your basically proposing a roundabout way to have readers force themselves to like FT no matter what stupid shit Mashima writes? Ridiculous.
When you first started reading FT, especially those of us who have not touched Rave, did you say to yourself "I'm going to pretend I'm reading part 2 Naruto so I'll be impressed no matter what"? If you're sane I'm guessing no.
Fairy Tail set it's OWN standards with quality or at least decent arcs in the beginning. The Gray vs Leon arc had everything recent arcs didn't: Comprehensible and sensible plot points, DECENT ATTEMPTS AT CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT (gasp!) slim to none Dues ex Machina (gasp gasp!) along with typical Fairy Tail quick pace action and storytelling.
Nobody is asking Fairy Tail to be Berserk, Hunter X Hunter or even One Piece; despite this thread's awful habit of calling everyone a One Piece fanboy, the bashing of these and other far superior series or the super situational comparisons of the Fairy. Everybody knows what to expect from Fairy Tail a fast paced Shounen. It's silly to tell them percieve what they see differently.
First off thanks for the compliment, half the time I forget what i'm writing because I am kubo tite…J/k back on track I honestly don't think FT is that bad of a series but it does need to shape up big time. Mashima probably thinks he's doing a great job and it's so/so. I honestly wish that we could finally get an arc just like phantom and the battle for FT. The oracion seis arc was bad the ending was alright. The TOP arc was bad and this arc isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. We got a glimpse at the world at how things worked we got introduced to our potential supporting protagonists (i'm talking about edo-tail), introduced to the antagonists. As the arc progressed it steadily got better n better it wasn't until the whole cat's being gods ideas that it suddenly started to "suck" I honestly thought that was hilarious. It would be like if people worshipped dogs an that dogs had the authority to do as they please otherwise said person would be banished. The whole entire destroy the exceeds idea was another interesting plot point. Also the antagonists ability's for the most part were very interesting. A woman that basically holds the ten commandments, a guy that can control amusement park equipment, a guy that can turn objects limp an hover without explanation -_- (that was really stupid mashima), A cat person that uses a big sword but would be put to shame by the demon generals even bigger sword, a man that turns himself into an octopus. All of those are very interesting Also we got to meet happy's parents which was rather odd.
Now i'll point out what I find wrong in this arc. The motive for the antagonist is rather how do you put it? ....stupid. There extracting magical energy for stupid rides...no wonder there magical supply is limited. The fights are entertaining yet boring at the same time, Natsu should of one hit wondered that Hughes guy and so far this arc has had the number 1 boring fight in all of FT. Gray vs. Sugarboy. I was glad when the chapter was over with. Faust's character he's the same as zero fucking nuts to the T. I love these villian types but I don't like it when the author over uses them. The pill swallow incident. Erza and grey showing up this pissed me off, I was first annoyed with lucy being there at first but than got over it, once those two showed up I just thought: great mashima does it again the fad 4 back in action. I would of liked it better if it was just: Natsu, Lucy,Wendy, Gazille and Mist gun. With a couple of random members of edoras FT joining in. My biggest problem with all of FT is that mashima doesn't use his supporting cast at all. It's as if the rest of FT are all Lazenby's an any RAVE reader will know exactly what i'm talking about.
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To be fair Lazenby , as much as I liked him , never even looked like a serious character .
Stil he should have gotten a fight he actualy won dammit .
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@Fire Fist:
I'm sorry, but…
[rant] Jesus Christ, I am getting so sick of this. Every fucking series except for One Piece… SHUT UP. It's not just you, it's everybody, every day... "Well, this chapter was good, but you know the author will mess up soon... Can you people just enjoy something instead of being the condom-hat wearer for once? It's so grating... It's fine to not like a series, but at least be consistent, please. [/rant]
Preach on brotha. I enjoy Fairy Tail quite alot, and personally I like the way it's going.
And seeing how this is a One Piece forum, it's impossible to have an intelligent conversation about the subject at hand while here.
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Maybe if Coco ripped off Faust's beard, it might save this arc.
Might…:unsure:
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@No:
To be fair Lazenby , as much as I liked him , never even looked like a serious character .
Stil he should have gotten a fight he actualy won dammit .
The said thing is that mashima was actually considering on giving lazenby an important fight before the series ended. ( I read this in one of mashima's rambles can't recal what volume though).
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I read that too .
But I didn't realy trust it . He deliberately lied about Haru x Elie and about them not being Levin's parents .
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So wait haru and ellie are not levins parents?
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No, they are.
He's referring to one of Hiro's ramblings about how Levin isn't their son but I'm pretty sure he didn't explicitly state that and just subtlely implied he wasn't. But then again, I wouldn't put it past him if he did blantantly lie. For some reason, Hiro is incapable of foreshadowing.
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No he said they are not his parents and he said Haru and Elie haven't got a future together .