I didn't expect Dadan to be a woman :shocked: . Maybe she's Devon's and/or Kokoro's mother . Seeing Luffy in emotional turmoil over Ace's death is really cool, though, great storytelling and character development there. And Ace doesn't seem to like Luffy all that much at the end of the chapter.
Chapter 582: "Luffy and Ace" Discussion Thread
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We need a Carue holyday that eats that holyday.
But then Jump would get a break at Carueday too.
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THE BEST strawhat's colored page ever!! SOCCER owns!!
Though it would be even better if it had at least 1 team player with a green and yellow (or blue and white) shirt… But is still awesome! :D
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But ccarue is part of the super spotbilled duck squad. So his holiday goes by really fast.
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I wonder if Oda is self-referencing the appearance of Panda-(wo)Man on Amazon Lilly…
'are there any female bears'
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Whoa, I feel as if this is a side of Luffy that has never been shown before.
Going by his facial expressions, he looks down right scary.
It's almost as if his on the tittering edge of becoming…
1. A ruthless pirate.
2.just giving up.
I think he will eventually go back to old Luffy though...maybe. :sad:
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Did anyone notice why Ace's spear is all bloody? Look at the bottom right panel. Ace killed Motobaro!!! What a clever way to show his strength.
And omg Enishida was right next to Hancock!!! How awesome!!! I'm flipping over this because Oda could have not put her in that space at all and no one would have noticed. Yet he specifically remembered such a minor character and added her in a way to fit her character. I know this is old news but I really love Oda's Easter eggs that really accentuate how in tune he is with the series and all its characters.
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It's almost as if his on the tittering edge of becoming…
1. A ruthless pirate.
2.just giving up.
I think he will eventually go back to old Luffy though...maybe. :sad:
I really hope that Luffy just once goes berserk … with brutality and killing and such ... up until now he beat the pulp out of his enemies but .... well after beating he 'killed' his opponents honor not them.
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first of all a coverspread about soccer..
nicceso law could reside on AL so that he cares for luffy…
could mean they will also go back togeather to shabondy and so maybe to FI..
iam a bit curious how he looks at luffys hat..maybe he wants to have a fight against luffy for that hat. (but can
t really imagine right now a clash between those two)NOW HAVE TO SAY THAT...
i freaking love how luffy right now has a mentally fight with all that what he has seen...
just awesome oda...giving your main chara such a burden...
seeing how he can`t control his feelings and his anger...i rly FUCKING LOVE IT!!!!!!!
how he fights against it and having right now that "emo"-time is one of the greatest things this chara has to go through..it will make luffy so badass after such a mentally breakdown..iam getting goosebumps :happy:just heartbreaking how he had to let all his emotions out:cwy::cwy:
oww luffy following you now for so long and i rly feel with ya...
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Seems were back to 20 page chapters now Yay!
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Hopefully acceptance wll come soon, cause Sasuke state isnt needed.
No, you didn't just do that.
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From the Chapter 576 thread: @herr_sebbe:
Prediction: In 3 chapters or less, we will have seen Dadan's face. :ninja:
I almost had it! Darn. :P
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Anybody else think it's funny that Dadan and her group were blackmailed into raising Ace and Luffy? I do.
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that soccer spread was indeed neat.
this chapter was another really good one (of course) I got really teary eyed seeing as luffy snap back into reality like that. A big question I have is about this dandan person was she mentioned before? sorry my memory isn't that great plus I don't have the time to start re-reading this epic monster.
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Oh snap we will probably see what happened to Higuma O_O
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@GEPETTOSMONSTER: Yeah Dadan was mentioned before … I guess the first time she was mentioned when Luffy's bounty was increased to 300 million Berry and the major of Windmill Village said something like 'What will Dadan say to all of this' ...
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@People:
Oh snap we will probably see what happened to Higuma O_O
Higuma is now a sea king poop. Or probably turned into a poop man like Softon!!!:ninja:
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Higuma is now a sea king poop. Or probably turned into a poop man like Softon!!!:ninja:
Not really, look at the page: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/1/40/
It's easy for Oda to make Higuma able to jump before this. -
To me it reads more like Hancock is putting Luffy above the laws of ther people and will have to make a choice soon.
You`re reading too much into it.
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lookin at luffy reacting to his multiple flashbacks is reminding me of a high gross multi million dollar Hollywood film with like 4 emmys and like 50 oscars
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Higuma lives to die another day. You will see. You will all see!
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Nice 'different' chapter.
Luffy's emotions were portrayed really well.
Interesting that Dadan and her crew were criminals.
Can't wait to see how this flashback develops.
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The Sea King caught him off surprise. See how he was like "What the…Aaah!" and then the Sea King ate the boat? No way did Higuma have enough reaction to avoid being eaaten.
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It's up to Oda. Personally i'm pretty sure we will see him in these mountains.
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Well, maybe not him, but someone close to him who may want revenge?
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You`re reading too much into it.
I disagree, I think deicide is right. Hancocks situation is getting to a point where she can't do both. She either to commit to her people or commit to Luffy. As was demonstrated in this scene. She was begrudgingly kept from luffy because of her responsibility to her people.
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@GEPETTOSMONSTER: Yeah Dadan was mentioned before … I guess the first time she was mentioned when Luffy's bounty was increased to 300 million Berry and the major of Windmill Village said something like 'What will Dadan say to all of this' ...
allright thanks…I think I remember that.
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daddy jinbei rly has a tuff job there to help luffy somehow..
but that there will be a timeskip can now finallly be said as not true..having two weeks of recovery while sailing to AL doesn
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I think the part with Dadan being exactly a mountain bandit could be some kind of foreshadowing for Higuma if he really does reappear.
Although, I won't be disappointed at all if he doesn't. Thing is, if he does he will seem like the "big villain" of Luffy's past and that will send out the wrong message to the reader. Luffy's past this time isn't about Higuma, it's about Ace.
I'm a bit torn on this one. :P
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Sad chapter… :( but it was to be expected :/
Oda really is amazing when it comes to touch people and all, was really sad there.
As for Law have quite a long look at Luffy's hat, I'm betting he's wondering why Shanks, a Yonkou, cared first thing when entering the biggest mess in history, about Luffy having his hat back.
I've always thought Law was a good guy, ever since SAn but hmmm... what Apoo said during the last chapter, and Law's look when Ivankov was asking indirectly why he was saving Luffy makes me wonder... Why did he save Luffy? Why did he risk his life just to go get Luffy away from marine HQ? What the hell does he know that we don't?
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It seems as if Pandawoman actually has a line! :O
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It's Oda, not Marvel. We won't see reappear Higuma, Ace or WB alive.
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It seems as if Pandawoman actually has a line! :O
And she appears in two panels! Pandawoman > Pandaman :ninja:
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Ugh, I must say that this chapter was pretty lame. It was fun to see Dadan, but that was about it. It was pretty boring seeing Luffy cry half the chapter. I really hope that we get to see the other Strawhats next chapter.
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So Iva and the Newkamas are heading to Kamabakka Kingdom. Others have already mentioned Sanji but I'm thinking also that when Iva returns, he'll once again become the king of Kamabakka Kingdom.
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I think the part with Dadan being exactly a mountain bandit could be some kind of foreshadowing for Higuma if he really does reappear.
Although, I won't be disappointed at all if he doesn't. Thing is, if he does he will seem like the "big villain" of Luffy's past and that will send out the wrong message to the reader. Luffy's past this time isn't about Higuma, it's about Ace.
I'm a bit torn on this one. :P
Well, I think this flashback will elaborate on the incident that almost killed Ace and Ace promised to Luffy that he would never die.
During the war, we see many small flashbacks from Ace's, Garp's and Luffy's perspectives. Ace attacked first a bunch of children hoodlums, then attacked some men at a bar, but both circunstances happened before he met Luffy.
None of those flashbacks show what happened that made Luffy think Ace was dead, so I think it will be the point of this flashback: Ace and Luffy bonding, growing together, then the incident that almost kills Ace. Then we have Ace relieving Luffy's grief by promising he would never abandon him. AND BAM, we see Ace's real death again, just to remember us (and Luffy) how much life sucks.
If so, I could see this incident as something caused by Higuma's clan to avenge his death, and Ace almost dying in order to save Luffy.
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It's Oda, not Marvel. We won't see reappear Higuma, Ace or WB alive.
The same post 3 months ago
"It's Oda, not Marvel, we won't see reappear Pell, pagaya, franky family. . . alive"
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. I really hope that we get to see the other Strawhats next chapter.
i think we can be pretty sure that there will be the flashback next chapter how luffy and ace became brothers..
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Two things about this chapter struck me.
Ace spit on Luffy and I lol'd.
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Usopp can't join the Strawhats because he has to stay with the Usopp Pirates. That obligation is going to hold him back.
Sanji can't join the Strawhats because he has to stay with the Baratie and repay Zeff. That obligation is going to hold him back.
Franky can't join the Strawhats because he has to stay with the Franky Family. That obligation is going to hold him back.
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Two things about this chapter struck me.
Ace spit on Luffy and I lol'd.
I found my new avatar.What a way to say hello. I wonder if he pisses on people to say good bye. Can't you just imagine it?
Luffy: "Bye, Ace!"
Ace's golden stream
Luffy: "Hey! My fac… gurgle gurgle"Ah... Good times, gooooood times.
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@robby:
is that an arguement for hancock to join..
i actually cant see right now how she would ever let luffy go.. i mean she can
t live without him and oesnt care that much about AL(and also she hasn
t much longer the shichibukai title, so she wont be able to protect the island much longer with her status..) so right now how shouldn
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The five stages of grief:
- Denial (thinking it's a dream)
- Anger (Venting frustration at the forest)
- Bargaining (Talking to Jinbei, remembering the past)- Depression (Probably will come out soon)
- Acceptance
Luffy's now in the third stage, but probably acceptance will come only in the end of this arc.
I think he has already hit depression at the moment before the flashback began.
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@robbybedfart:
Usopp can't join the Strawhats because he has to stay with the Usopp Pirates. That obligation is going to hold him back.
Sanji can't join the Strawhats because he has to stay with the Baratie and repay Zeff. That obligation is going to hold him back.
Franky can't join the Strawhats because he has to stay with the Franky Family. That obligation is going to hold him back.
I don't think anyone's joining at the end of this arc. Jinbei may follow luffy around for a bit though.
Boa would probably do the same.
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@Fire Priest:
I think he has already hit depression at the moment before the flashback began.
I think depression will hit hard after the flashback…
For now he's trying to balance his emotions. Anger, Sadness. Then sadness will take over.
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Cool game!
Hancock can't join the Strawhats because she has to stay at Amazon lily. That obligation is going to hold her back.Jinbei can't join the Strawhats because he has to stay at fishmen island. That obligation is going to hold him back.
Perona can't join the Strawhats because.. because.. Oh crap ! She is ALONE!
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@People:
Cool game!
Hancock can't join the Strawhats because she has to stay at Amazon lily. That obligation is going to hold her back.Jinbei can't join the Strawhats because he has to stay at fishmen island. That obligation is going to hold him back.
Perona can't join the Strawhats because.. because.. Oh crap ! She is ALONE!
Perona can't join the Strawhats because she's a spoiled egostical brat. That obligation is going to hold her back. :ninja:
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The game was not fair. Luffy and Sanji on the same team. Zoro's leg isn't his speciality. But Franky was a good keeper.