I completely disagree, I am on the EDGE OF MY SEAT waiting for what's going to happen next, one chapter after the next and it just gets better and better _ My only hope is that someone pwns the admirals, or at LEAST makes them bleed..a little..a lot..you know, just some xDDD I can't help it, I wanna see them get their just deserts, as much as I love them and all.
I wanna know what their trump card is, WHAT IS IT ODA??? DX!!! AHHHH
You know whats really funny, is that all of you are bashing Kizaru considering hes been playing around the last 55 god damn chaps. I betcha if luffy fought him at some point, and it was a battle like Luccis or moria, then we see the full extent of his powers.
I dont' get why ANYONE would talk bad about Kizaru. He pwned MOST of the Rookies playfully/mockingly while hardly breaking a sweat. He CAN teleport somewhat like Eneru, I mean, look what he did to Apoo. Apoo ran away and Kizaru caught up to him like in the blink of an eye.
Kizaru is a super awesome badass. I'm sure we haven't seen everything the admirals can do, I personally can't wait to see more of Akainu and Aokiji as well as Kizaru.
more importantly, who will eat his df when it grows again?
It's obvious will be Coby. He suppose to be the one to capture Luffy. So he'll need instant boost of power.
and he couldn't even grap the top of the Siege Wall
This bothers me. I'll accept that things may be too hectic for him to get a decent grip but it seems to me Oda got carried away with his Bazooka for Wapol. I'm willing to attribute a bit of it to perspective, but that can only go so far. Luffy's hands were WAY the fuck out there and although this made perfect sense for the Gates of Justice, he shouldn't have had a problem with that wall.
I'll chalk it up to the gigantic ice islands trembling while cannons are firing left and right.
When I say Kizaru doesn't seems to use very well his powers is because he should be even more powerful and fast than Eneru and he isn't.
He can kick and punch at light speed but needs to proyect a lightbeam to move inside it at that speed. And he focus on small attacks when he has the ability to destroy everything at one go (remember that giant tree at Shabody) But to be fair I think Oda is limiting the use of his powers because otherwise he would be an unstoppable monster.
Well, this is something many people do. They presume how each fighter should use their abilities when…well a line has to be drawn somewhere. You presume Kizaru moves at the speed of light, and hell maybe he does. But maybe people are still moving fast enough to counter him or avoid death blows. Why? Cause they can. Just cause they can, explain that anyway you want, maybe the fighters in One Piece really have achieved that kind of speed.
But really, I'd personally like to stop people complaining cause someone should "do more with their powers," like the guy who suggested a long time ago that Enel should have mind control cause he should control the electric pulses in a persons brain. I hear that and realize there has to be a line drawn somewhere. Besides that, logia don't exactly have telepathic power over their element, they just throw is in unique shapes while attacking.
Oh yeah, and I'll repeat that Kizaru is an unstoppable monster. There's really no good reason that Akainu and maybe Ao Kiji should be stronger or weaker then except for personal skill. I disagree that his fruit is the strongest of the three. Again...they're all pretty much the same. Attacks pass through them, they rain destruction with their attack, and they have a few quirks based on their theme.
Question is what has anyone really done so far?
I'm assuming you're talking about the fighters between top fighters of this war? That is, the admirals, shichibukai, WB's commanders, and Smoker? Cause if so…I'm right there with ya. I really hope the supernova get here soon, cause I've lost faith in any battle between these people. None of them seem to have the abilitiy to even land a real hit on each other, and they keep jumping around all over the place. I get that this is a chaotic war...but I had real expectations when these guys started facing off, and I'm disappointed that they ultimately went no where. It's my only complaint with an otherwise good arc. I'm hungry for resolution.
This bothers me. I'll accept that things may be too hectic for him to get a decent grip but it seems to me Oda got carried away with his Bazooka for Wapol. I'm willing to attribute a bit of it to perspective, but that can only go so far. Luffy's hands were WAY the fuck out there and although this made perfect sense for the Gates of Justice, he shouldn't have had a problem with that wall.
I'll chalk it up to the gigantic ice islands trembling while cannons are firing left and right.
I think it's because since the fight with Mihawk he doesn't want to get stretchy really far in a hectic battle like this. It's subtle, but that was one of the few "realization" moments luffy gets so I'm going to stick with that.
This bothers me. I'll accept that things may be too hectic for him to get a decent grip but it seems to me Oda got carried away with his Bazooka for Wapol. I'm willing to attribute a bit of it to perspective, but that can only go so far. Luffy's hands were WAY the fuck out there and although this made perfect sense for the Gates of Justice, he shouldn't have had a problem with that wall.
I'll chalk it up to the gigantic ice islands trembling while cannons are firing left and right.
The real issue here is not that Luffy can't reach the top of the Siege Wall by stretching all the way up, but that he doesn't grap the cannon hole edges in the Siege Wall and uses them to catapult himself over it, monkey-style, like he always does. So he might have lost some IQ points during battle.
Anyway, this was just a little plot hole method to show some comedy Iva interaction and Jinbei shining moments, again. And he got over it in due time, so no harm done, plus he also had some wood to fire…
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I'm assuming you're talking about the fighters between top fighters of this war? That is, the admirals, shichibukai, WB's commanders, and Smoker? Cause if so…I'm right there with ya. I really hope the supernova get here soon, cause I've lost faith in any battle between these people. None of them seem to have the abilitiy to even land a real hit on each other, and they keep jumping around all over the place. I get that this is a chaotic war...but I had real expectations when these guys started facing off, and I'm disappointed that they ultimately went no where. It's my only complaint with an otherwise good arc. I'm hungry for resolution.
Yep, that's right.
I'm still calling for Whitebeard to mount Phoenix-form Marco (not that way) and charge in with his bisento and Jozu-full-diamond-form as his shield.
Nothing in the history of manga will be able to top that.
I'm still calling for Whitebeard to mount Phoenix-form Marco (not that way) and charge in with his bisento and Jozu-full-diamond-form as his shield.
Nothing in the history of manga will be able to top that.
O-M-G aside from the horrid mental image conjured by your paranthetical addition due to reverse psychology, that brought much awesome to my mind. I think it even made me smart enough to describe properly the horror it first brought to mind. 
The real issue here is not that Luffy can't reach the top of the Siege Wall by stretching all the way up, but that he doesn't grap the cannon hole edges in the Siege Wall and uses them to catapult himself over it, monkey-style, like he always does. So he might have lost some IQ points during battle.
Exactly.
Either that or he could have used Moby Dick's mast to propel himself over it while it was still standing. Oda did a fine job creating reasons to preoccupy Luffy up to the past two chapters but he let himself go just a smidge this time.
Again, I'm perfectly willing to chalk it up to things being shakey and genuinely chaotic but still…
Glad to see I wasn't the only one confused by Luffy's inability to just jump the wall and even carry someone with him.
Then again, that would somewhat defeat the wall's purpose.
Getting past previous grievances, I am actually excited for the future. The arrival of the supernovas…okay assuming it happens...would be a great way to mix things up! Think about all the abilities that will be in one place!
An age changer, a man with ESP (or something like it), and a body switcher will be on the nova side. Already here, we have a shadow user, a hormone person, and Kuma. There are dozen's of wacky things that can happen with these people. Characters could be changed forever. Jango and Fullbody could be combined into one person. Think about that, and apply it to character you actually care about.
O-M-G aside from the horrid mental image conjured by your paranthetical addition due to reverse psychology, that brought much awesome to my mind. I think it even made me smart enough to describe properly the horror it first brought to mind.
Imagine if it actually happens… and I called it... I think I would probably die laughing :D
Anyone wanna draw that for me? It'll be like... Whitebeard riding a Phoenix-Marco mount with epic lance-knight-like stance with a bisento in one hand and Diamond-Jozu in another :P You will forever have my gratitude (+ it might just be the image of the month :D)
but WB told Oars they needed him.. so its WB-Jozu-Oars right? marco wasnt implied to be included in the trump card.. it has something to do with strenth obviously.. what WB is planning to do..
wasnt he trying to jump like that in this chapter and they shott him and blew him up? he had to jump from further away and everything was on fire but the water :D
can someone post the apprentice spoiler? thanks
where's the spoiler?
I'm hoping Luffy uses haki and actually manages to hit at least one of the admirals.
And I guess with Akainu, the floor (and sea) is really made of lava.
The real issue here is not that Luffy can't reach the top of the Siege Wall by stretching all the way up, but that he doesn't grap the cannon hole edges in the Siege Wall and uses them to catapult himself over it, monkey-style, like he always does. So he might have lost some IQ points during battle.
Anyway, this was just a little plot hole method to show some comedy Iva interaction and Jinbei shining moments, again. And he got over it in due time, so no harm done, plus he also had some wood to fire…
I get your point and you are right about it but think it in this way:
There is a great entering point to an area and there is a little bit more tricky way to get into the same are with the way you told. Which would do you think Luffy would do? Luffy doesn't think too much and the guy is fearless. The only thing in his mind is to go near Ace and that openning is there right infront of his eyes. I think understanding that he won't be able to go from there after being forced back is an improvement in luffy's IQ since he didn't keep trying to go back fromthe same place over and over :)
but WB told Oars they needed him.. so its WB-Jozu-Oars right? marco wasnt implied to be included in the trump card.. it has something to do with strenth obviously.. what WB is planning to do..
i already told you guys what the trump card will be. jozu will turn himself to diamond and then oars will throw jozu as if he were a diamond baseball at the admirals and killing them all and ace as well.
I personally don't think the supernovas are going to the war. I'm interested to see why Bonney is so upset about the whole thing, but I just don't see why you would throw yourself at the government that way.
i already told you guys what the trump card will be. jozu will turn himself to diamond and then oars will throw jozu as if he were a diamond baseball at the admirals and killing them all and ace as well.
LOL.. yeah that may be the trump card.. they didn't use it at the beginning since there was time for the execution but now since it's time they'll surely want to kill ace before WG..
Oh, damn, can't people just stop spamming 2ch with the same fake spoilers?!?!?! Is it always like that. I never checked for One Piece thread, though.
i already told you guys what the trump card will be. jozu will turn himself to diamond and then oars will throw jozu as if he were a diamond baseball at the admirals and killing them all and ace as well.
I honestly do expect Oars to pitch Jozu like a baseball. Only at WB who will launch Jozu through a portion of the wall and land near Luffy. Pheonix Hybrid mode Marco should have no issue getting over the wall and be with them.
I honestly do expect Oars to pitch Jozu like a baseball. Only at WB who will launch Jozu through a portion of the wall and land near Luffy. Pheonix Hybrid mode Marco should have no issue getting over the wall and be with them.
I'm expecting anything to be quite frank. With the way things are moving, it feels like the final breath of the arc is coming our way about now. This is certainly part of the climax of this arc.
Seems like I can give up to see look for a spoiler today
Where is Nja GODAMNIT !
Away on business.
It's Tuesday morning and I only have one question.
Where's the spoilers at?
WHERE????
D: AHHHHHHH
Two days..and no spoilers..if I weren't soo tired I'd try and stay up to see them..but..they might not even come out today, so it's best to sleep. Got my fingers crossed in 8 hours there will be something. Yes….
I'm really hungry… :sad:
It's Tuesday morning and I only have one question.
Where's the spoilers at?
WHERE????
D: AHHHHHHH
Two days..and no spoilers..if I weren't soo tired I'd try and stay up to see them..but..they might not even come out today, so it's best to sleep. Got my fingers crossed in 8 hours there will be something. Yes….
Patience. 16 char
Yes folks, its a well known fact when the spoilers are late half the OP fandom commits suicide. Lol. X-D
In the end we get our raw early enough. If spoiler comes late or early doesn't matter ;)
Yes folks, its a well known fact when the spoilers are late half the OP fandom commits suicide. Lol. X-D
that would seriously help the poor chapter threads from being invaded by addicted kiddies.
Im really excited about EPICbeard's trump card! i think Oars' Jr. can somehow make something on that wall that will allow all of the pirates to enter into the scaffold
Well, Oars could not be the trump card, since he just got up… so WB must have had his trump card before Oars got up
that would seriously help the poor chapter threads from being invaded by addicted kiddies.
Yeah but you know… They breed like rabbits, you kill half, next week they double. The endless circle of pain continues!:blink:
im thinking if Epicbeard's attacks cant break that wall, a giant like oars also cant because he's already injured and no df, a giant (even relatively bigger than normal giants) with just pure strength alone wont break that wall.. so its clearly a strategy rather than "Oars, break that wall for us" move.
shit! im really curious now! WB maybe using his quakes on Jozu against the wall? what can Oars do except prevent that wall from completely rising?
Ah, I can't wait for the moment when Oars farts and Ace lights up. Lalalalla la, wait did I say that out loud O_o?
im thinking if Epicbeard's attacks cant break that wall, a giant like oars also cant because he's already injured and no df, a giant (even relatively bigger than normal giants) with just pure strength alone wont break that wall.. so its clearly a strategy rather than "Oars, break that wall for us" move.
shit! im really curious now! WB maybe using his quakes on Jozu against the wall? what can Oars do except prevent that wall from completely rising?
Oars is physically the strongest person on the battlefield. If Joz can tear out an iceberg that is several times the size of a giant, imagine what the monster amongst giants can.
Ah, I can't wait for the moment when Oars farts and Ace lights up. Lalalalla la, wait did I say that out loud O_o?
Lol, but I still think Oars will stick Jozz in his ass and fart then using Jozz as a projectile. 
possibilites:
-WB-Jozu-Oars combo attack on the wall
-there are seakings/fishmen who will help them somehow
-there are more ships underwater (with WB pirates of course)
-Shiki will come! (ok nvm this LOL)
-Shanks will come? Kaidou was defeated (most unlikely)
-BB will come (expected by many)
-Dragon will come to kick ass! (its getting a little bit cloudy in the last few chapters)
-ancient weapon found by WB! (it sounds reasonable that WB has found one in his 22 years post-roger era, and that he wouldnt use on anyone because he is not a bastard, now is the time!)
possibilites:
-WB-Jozu-Oars combo attack on the wall
-there are seakings/fishmen who will help them somehow
-there are more ships underwater (with WB pirates of course)
-Shiki will come! (ok nvm this LOL)
-Shanks will come? Kaidou was defeated (most unlikely)
-BB will come (expected by many)
-Dragon will come to kick ass! (its getting a little bit cloudy in the last few chapters)
-ancient weapon found by WB! (it sounds reasonable that WB has found one in his 22 years post-roger era, and that he wouldnt use on anyone because he is not a bastard, now is the time!)
The only 1 who knew where an ancient weapon was is Roger.
possibilites:
-WB-Jozu-Oars combo attack on the wall
-there are seakings/fishmen who will help them somehow
-there are more ships underwater (with WB pirates of course)
-Shiki will come! (ok nvm this LOL)
-Shanks will come? Kaidou was defeated (most unlikely)
-BB will come (expected by many)
-Dragon will come to kick ass! (its getting a little bit cloudy in the last few chapters)
-ancient weapon found by WB! (it sounds reasonable that WB has found one in his 22 years post-roger era, and that he wouldnt use on anyone because he is not a bastard, now is the time!)
What is with the guy, who opened the Gates of Justice for luffy prior? He could be some WB spy inside the marines and he sure sits in the right place to rise the siege wall again. WB might know, that he would blow his cover if he acts a second time, so he is this trump card for a really desperate situation.
