He is an unnamed vice-admiral. That's it.
Definitely NOT Garp.
lolz dis 1diot finks itz n0t g4rp.
go bak two yore bleech manga
leeve n4ruto and one peice two da smartt ppl
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lolz dis 1diot finks itz n0t g4rp.
go bak two yore bleech manga
leeve n4ruto and one peice two da smartt ppl
lol at how dump you really are
Eat more food, dude.
Not grass.
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Glad that you know the correct word.
Cause' I think you use only "da smartt" one.
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You guys aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, are you.
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@Kairouseki:
From what I've learned in Mythology class Cockatrice is basically the same thing as a Basilisk.
Not the same but almost
I dont know about the powers
but basilisk kill with a glance,poison and arent bigCockatrice are born in the opposite way….
Chicken's egg or Snake's egg raised by the opposite
You guys aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, are you.
ahahahha seriously how can anyone fall for something that obvious
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Man I love fishing at night
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That would even make quite some sense.
It's what I'm sticking to until we find out exactly what it is, hopefully I'm right. :happy:
I'm thinking that Roger being able to "hear the voice of all things" was a result of having become an "enllightened" human due to having eaten the Hito Fruit. Plus, in spite of Rayleigh saying Roger couldn't read them, he was apparently able to write the language as well since it looked like the message Roger wrote matched the characters on the Skypeia poneglyph.
EDIT: Plus I wanna be able to say I called it.
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Roger eating the Hito is definitely something I could get behind.
Except I keep confusing it with Kilo. WTF, I should know what kilograms are.
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Roger eating no DF is definitely something I could get behind.
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That's what I was always convinced of before the Hito theory. And I still am; Roger is just one of those guys you expect to be totally badass without a Devil Fruit, like Shanks.
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Allegedly .
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Does the fact that Mihawk couldnt cut Buggy indicates that Mihawk didnt use haki ?
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Does the fact that Mihawk couldnt cut Buggy indicates that Mihawk didnt use haki ?
Someone as strong as Mihawk has no need as something like haki
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Will any of the supernovas return? haha
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The dude behind Onigumo revealed before? He looks like an zoan ability
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How come my thread ended up here?:wassat::wassat:
So who is he?? Any conclusion???I am an onion in soup 
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An unnamed VA… But NOT Garp
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How come my thread ended up here?:wassat::wassat:
@Thread:
Questions that don't deserve their own threads
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Does the fact that Mihawk couldnt cut Buggy indicates that Mihawk didnt use haki ?
Mihawk probably doesn't use that paticular haki for the same reason he probably doesn't have a Seastone sword: It's an unfair gimmick against Devil Fruit Users.
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Mihawk just didn't need to utilize Ambition to hit Luffy, hence no harm done to Buggy when being cut. Though this does give me something to think about…meh might as well post it here no big deal.
Anyway I'm just wondering: since from what we've seen from a Power User being hit by a character using Ambition we've seen that it doesn't really "cancel" out what their particular Devil Fruit entails like seastone or the Yami Fruit. Borsalino remained a lightman, Luffy remained a rubberman, Crocodile remained a sandman, etc. So even if Mihawk were to attempt cutting Buggy with a strike utlizing Ambition would it succeed in causing damage? Since if going by what I mentioned before, Buggy wouldn't cease to be a splitman so the slice wouldn't connect anyway right?
Maybe I'm just overthinking it though.
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what is this weird "ambition" you speak of. What ambition would mihawk have? He is already the strongest swordsman in the world. You mean haki? Why not call it haki then?
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Yeah, let's all leave random words untranslated.
Anyway I'm just wondering: since from what we've seen from a Power User being hit by a character using Ambition we've seen that it doesn't really "cancel" out what their particular Devil Fruit entails like seastone or the Yami Fruit. Borsalino remained a lightman, Luffy remained a rubberman, Crocodile remained a sandman, etc. So even if Mihawk were to attempt cutting Buggy with a strike utlizing Ambition would it succeed in causing damage? Since if going by what I mentioned before, Buggy wouldn't cease to be a splitman so the slice wouldn't connect anyway right?
Indeed, that's the way I think it works - otherwise, what point was there in Teach spending so much of his life looking for that devil fruit?
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Right now, there is no basis for haki to speak of. We know there are types of haki, King haki can make people pass out. For all we know Raylegh's Haki is a different kind and they have completely different properties, like Hatsu or something. Luffy made people and stuff pass out, so did Rayleigh, but Rayleigh obviously knows more about it. and Margret's style of Haki is obviously different. So let's suspend any type of "knowledge" on it
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Indeed, that's the way I think it works - otherwise, what point was there in Teach spending so much of his life looking for that devil fruit?
Yeah I remember making posts saying that same thing too awhile back. That's also why I think Teach is unable to utilize Ambition.
Anyway, since swords and other types of sharp weapons seem to be the most common method of fighting in One Piece it means splitman pretty much hit the jackpot when eating the Bara Fruit.
Buggy's awesome.
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Heh.
A couple of months ago, I was kinda holding out on the hope that Buggy would give cause for Newgate to have at him with his Bisento, and then make some jibe about how attacks from the "strongest man in the world" were nothing to him.
I guess Mihawk is good enough though.
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Anyway, since swords and other types of sharp weapons seem to be the most common method of fighting in One Piece it means splitman pretty much hit the jackpot when eating the Bara Fruit.
Buggy's awesome.
Agreed, assuming his ability is passive, as in he can't be slashed while asleep, then there is not much stopping him from geting to Raftel, if he has a good boat. Though I'm unsusre of what would stop a Bara-bara fruit user from hitching a ride on a Zoan user with a flying type animal.
Marco/Pell/Gan Fort's horse + Buggy, if not themselves for Pirate King
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We still don't know what's keeping people from Raftel though.
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Buggy has ultimate defense unless you chop up his feet.
I have no basis for my reason. =]
~Kyoujin Pirates Treasurer~
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Didn't buggy have his feet chopped up in impel down.
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Yeah, it's just that his feet can't fly with him. They can be chopped into however many pieces his body can be.
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Didn't buggy have his feet chopped up in impel down.
his feet were sliced upwards, but not "chopped up" in the general meaning
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I don't understand why you make the distinction. His power is split/separate. Unless otherwise stated he can split into however many pieces at whatever angle.
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@Vash:
his feet were sliced upwards, but not "chopped up" in the general meaning
Same difference. He still maintains control of his body in multiple parts, so as long as he can take them sliced in twain, he can take them chopped up, as long as he has them still on the ground.
@Kairouseki:
I don't understand why you make the distinction. His power is split/separate. Unless otherwise stated he can split into however many pieces at whatever angle.
I think Oda once stated that buggy could only keep control of so many parts at once. Arlongpark.net is still down so I can't confirm in the sbs though.
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@Vash:
Agreed, assuming his ability is passive, as in he can't be slashed while asleep.
It is, since Buggy's a become/control paramecia-type Power User.
He literally became a splitman and can control his splitting, but can't create it from outside the body.
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We still don't know what's keeping people from Rafael though.
Rafael, is probably surrounded by a fog like maze that makes you come back out where you went in.
None of the logs point at it but instead spin in circles.
There's probably also a water wall all around it shooting up from the sea and also surrounded by a wind tornado/hurricane type thing.
There's probably a massive nest of sea kings in the foggy area too.
~Kyoujin Pirates Treasurer~
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It is, since Buggy's a become/control paramecia-type Power User.
He literally became a splitman and can control his splitting, but can't create it from outside the body.
what?
I agree Luffy is pretty much a pasive controler, but Miss valentine is a Paramecia as well, and she is n't automatically all types of weight while asleep, while Luffy is always rubber
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Rafael, is probably surrounded by a fog like maze that makes you come back out where you went in.
None of the logs point at it but instead spin in circles.
There's probably also a water wall all around it shooting up from the sea and also surrounded by a wind tornado/hurricane type thing.
There's probably a massive nest of sea kings in the foggy area too.
Yeah, most of those ideas have been fielded along with things like it being underwater, inside a mountain, etc.
I wonder if Roger's ability to hear "the voice of all things" is what enabled him to reach it when no-one else could.
@Vash:
what?
I agree Luffy is pretty much a pasive controler, but Miss valentine is a Paramecia as well, and she is n't automatically all types of weight while asleep, while Luffy is always rubber
Not all paramecias are the same. That's the whole point to the "superhuman" moniker.
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Rafael, is probably surrounded by a fog like maze that makes you come back out where you went in.
None of the logs point at it but instead spin in circles.
There's probably also a water wall all around it shooting up from the sea and also surrounded by a wind tornado/hurricane type thing.
There's probably a massive nest of sea kings in the foggy area too.
probably=possibly
we can also just assume the hindrances beforehand are enough, without ultimate defenses
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I always liked Ubiq's idea about something involving the Aqua Laguna being especially massive this time tied in somehow with being able to make it to Raftel.
I can't remember the specifics about it, but I know it tied in with the other side of Reverse Mountain and other stuff.
@Vash:
what?
I agree Luffy is pretty much a pasive controler, but Miss valentine is a Paramecia as well, and she is n't automatically all types of weight while asleep, while Luffy is always rubber
Oh God not this again.
Anyway yes Miss Valentine is a weightwoman due to the Kilo Fruit, and aside from wanting to get into semantics she is always just that. Add to that her ability to change her weight which would fulfill the "control" aspect and both are covered.
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@Vash:
probably=possibly
we can also just assume the hindrances beforehand are enough, without ultimate defenses
It would have to be something special to keep someone like shanks or newgate from reaching it.
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Maybe I'm just overthinking it though.
Indeed, that's the way I think it works - otherwise, what point was there in Teach spending so much of his life looking for that devil fruit?
You are right in overthinking it Vanessa. When Luffy was hit by the Boa sisters, and when Kizaru was cut by Rayleigh's sword, their DF bodies SHOULD HAVE defended them, but didn't. True, Luffy could still stretch and Kizaru could still create/control/become light, but they were still hurt by the attack. The same applies for Enel getting hit by Reject when seastone was against him. By the logic of the two scenarios, both seastone and Ambition should affect Buggy. Who knows it that will happen though, as this is an area that will be hard for Oda to not trip himself up on.
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Who said seastone wouldn't affect Buggy? It cancels out Devil Fruit powers so yeah it would.
I'm just talking about Ambition in conjunction with a slice and stuff like that.
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It would have to be something special to keep someone like shanks or newgate from reaching it.
from reaching it, yes, from wanting to reach it, who knows? Surely the 4 emperors would not bother hanging around the beginning, but would all be trying to move forward. My guess is they all have a certain amount of knowledge, possibly enough to have them all think that freedom in an area the WG doesn't control is enough in this world
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@Vash:
from reaching it, yes, from wanting to reach it, who knows? Surely the 4 emperors would not bother hanging around the beginning, but would all be trying to move forward. My guess is they all have a certain amount of knowledge, possibly enough to have them all think that freedom in an area the WG doesn't control is enough in this world
That's possible… but would that freedom really be enough for them to give up on their dream to be pirate king?
I'm sure there's at least 1(Kaidou) and possibly 2(the unknown) who would do just about anything for the title no matter how much freedom they lost.
Maybe just maybe the 4 sit there and block Raftel and pretend they're in a stalemate. When really Roger is still alive and living on Raftel. He did tell Reliegh before his excution he wasn't going to die right, or was that a mistranslation I read?
That's also a good reason to put his 1st mate on SA, so he knows every new pirate to enter the new world.
Edit- Yes, you're probably right Vanessa, the disease I forgot about that. :/
~Kyoujin Pirates Treasurer~
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Uh…that was more of a symbolic thing, which his starting of the Golden Age of Piracy affirmed what he said to Rayleigh.
Besides, Roger was a dying man anyway due to the disease he had.
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Who said seastone wouldn't affect Buggy?
Mihawk […] for the same reason […] probably doesn't have a Seastone sword.
Skimming the discussion I saw it mentioned, and it has been questioned before as well, so I threw it in there. Understandably so because…
It cancels out Devil Fruit powers so yeah it would.
It nullifies their powers, but to what degree? That's the confusing part. All we know is that it "emits the same properties/energy as the sea" (Smoker/Coby), it saps strength from the user (Enel), it nullifies Devil Fruit powers (Nami), and that it is made of (or contains) the same substance ('Plybotoin') that Sea/Land Clouds* are made of (Pagaya). The confusion is the parallel with the 'sea' or 'water'. When Luffy was under water (Arlong Park), his body retained its rubber properties, but lacked the strength and control over it. Luffy was also weakened and couldn't use his power when he fell into the Sea Cloud. So technically the Sea Cloud works the same as regular Sea, and does so because it is made of the same stuff as Seastone. Thus a confusing parellel. If he was pressed with seastone, would he then lose his ability to stretch entirely? It would appear so, from the evidence, but there has been no real verbal suggestion that Seastone has different (or more potent) effects on DF users.
I'm just talking about Ambition in conjunction with a slice and stuff like that.
Right. So do you agree with my conclusion on that then?
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So, what you're saying is there's no evidence that if Luffy was cuffed by seastone. that he could be stretched by someone else or not?
If we go by Luffy being underwater and his head stretched to the surface by someone else and the ocean and the seastone have the same effect then Buggy being cut by a seastone sword wouldn't be any different then a normal sword.
It just takes away your ability to move and not your power hypothetically. But wait move is wrong hmm, I'm confused a little now. :/
Being underwater completely- you can't move but your ability is still there. Just your strength is zapped.
Being in water not over your head-you can still move, ability and strength may be lowered but you still have them.
Seastone-is sort of an opposite you can still move around but is your power still there? Just unusable? HmmIf it's still there chopping buggy would do nothing. If not then a seastone sword would really cut him but only in the mirco seconds the blade is actually touching him. Then he would be able to fix himself.
Therefore, I think chopping buggy with a seastone sword would only hurt in terms of pain a lot more but he would survive after the cut, unless he had seastone cuffs on making him not able to fix himself.
~Kyoujin Pirates Treasurer~
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It just takes away your ability to move and not your power hypothetically.
Basically, what I am saying is there are three possibilities (off the top of my head):
- Seastone is slightly different than the "Sea" in how it applies to a fruit user.
- Seastone: removes their ability 100% and weakens them. Meaning Luffy would not stretch, Buggy would not split, etc.
- The Sea (Water): removes their control over their ability and weakens them. Meaning they could still stretch or split.
- Seastone and the "Sea" are the same, but there are exceptions to the rule; IE: the type of fruit you have and how it applies to your body.
- Oda contradicts himself slightly here and there because of the semi-complex rules he has setup for a fictional world. This leads back to Oda making an SBS statement (AKA: Possibility #2).
- Seastone is slightly different than the "Sea" in how it applies to a fruit user.
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Edited above post.
I guess it doesn't really matter without more facts but I see what you mean with the different fruit abilities and how it effects your body. This is a complicated issue hopefully it gets explained a little more throughout the story..
~Kyoujin Pirates Treasurer~
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Therefore, I think chopping buggy with a seastone sword would only hurt in terms of pain a lot more but he would survive after the cut, unless he had seastone cuffs on making him not able to fix himself.
Well, no, not really. In the same way logia's don't "heal" from damage, Buggy cannot put together what he did not separate. Long story short, Oda has so far portrayed Seastone as capable of completely sealing your powers. Enel being the primary example, Luffy (via Smoker's Jutte) being a semi-example, and Ace being another example when considering the fact that Seastone cuffs are what are supposedly about to allow Ace to get his head chopped off. It just hasn't been completely explained, and/or Oda made a few exceptions or mistakes.
