Chapter 562 "Pirate Maelstrom Spider Squad" Discussion
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No just a realist.
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Everyone who disagrees with this is a Mihawk fanboooy
Someone is going to remove Vista's hat and mustache a la the tournament. It's inevitable.
Nice chart btw.
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Squad > Whitebeard a.k.a failbeard…:sad: Such childish posts are growing nowadays. The worst thing is that they are posted without argumentation / reasoning to provoke other members (I know, they can bypass them and to not feed the trolls, but if we get a post like this every page of the thread, the discussion is assured)
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I love how all the great swordsmans have mustaches and hats. I see a trend! Zoro should jump on this!
Great chapter, last page stopped my heart! Betrayal amongst pirates eh?
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I love how all the great swordsmans have mustaches and hats. I see a trend! Zoro should jump on this!
Great chapter, last page stopped my heart! Betrayal amongst pirates eh?
ROFL! Next time we see Zoro he's gonna have mexican mustache and a top hat!
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World Strongest Man…. just because the fruit then? PX-pwnage is still lame. Otherwise nice chapter. NEXT WEEK plz.
Hey if that's the excuse you want to use then fine.
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ROFL! Next time we see Zoro he's gonna have mexican mustache and a top hat!
That fanart needs to be drawn. I'd laugh til I cry!
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It does not matter how strong you are when your vital point is being destroyed.
And a. Whitebeard was more like focused on the battlefield and b. how could he expect that a comrade who probably served him for years would turn his back on him in an instant. You wouldn't be aware of such an attack either.
Nope, If I would be World Strongest Man, I would ignore that attack. Or then doing something about it before hit, even focusing to lead battle. I know he trustes his "sons" but come on, you suppous to be World Strongest Man, plz. Vital point my ass, I does not matter when you are you-know-what-man. Its all about his fruit, that long when Mr. Oda shows other way. Und no, no no no. I dont need excuses this week at all. PX army was lame already and this whitebeard being you-know-what-man, bullshit. Cut it and move on already, Mr. Oda. Hoping more One Piece next week.
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People who say Whitebeard's strength is just his fruit are embarrasing themselves. Oda has shown that in order to be stronger in the OP world, you have to posess a great physical strength & speed along with your devils fruit ability. Whitebeard being the strongest means that he posesses some badass physical strength.
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Serius, this last chapter should not be the basing of anyone's strength. This wasn't a fight, it was a betrayal. To say WB should have dodged it requires information and factors that haven't been presented yet, like the true extent of WB's damage and the reasons for Squardo's attack and Whitebeard's lack of defense.
@$abZ:
People who say Whitebeard's strength is just his fruit are embarrasing themselves. Oda has shown that in order to be stronger in the OP world, you have to posess a great physical strength & speed along with your devils fruit ability. Whitebeard being the strongest means that he posesses some badass physical strength.
Also this.
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@Vagrant:
Similar to what Aohige did a few pages ago, I did a little montage with all the frames that the named and unnamed Division Commanders appeared (including previous sightings, like that lance guy and the Fishman). The only frame I´m not so sure is about that Geisha, IDK if that´s really her with Vista and Lonz:ninja: and obviously that He-Man one, it doesn´t really look like him, making him the only Commander not shown previously. (Here's hoping Chain Chomp guy is the last one).
Kinda big, 1,5 Mb:
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/392/wbcommanders.gifHope you like it!
image doesn't load…can you re-upload it please?
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Obviously WB has to be immune to getting stabbed to be considered world's strongest man…
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@Sir:
Obviously WB has to be immune to getting stabbed to be considered world's strongest man…
He also has to have the biggest penis…
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idk if anyone has mentions this but i have a theory wheres BB .. maybe he is the true mastermind behind the betrayal maybe all the time he spent under WB he made alliances with some of the people closest to WB to try to get them to betray him
example one he asked Ace to join his nakama which im sure if he did (WHICH I KNOW HE WOULD NEVER DO) he would use Ace to betray WB … but instead now he used a Squad member .
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@$abZ:
People who say Whitebeard's strength is just his fruit are embarrasing themselves. Oda has shown that in order to be stronger in the OP world, you have to posess a great physical strength & speed along with your devils fruit ability. Whitebeard being the strongest means that he posesses some badass physical strength.
And the ability to bitch slap anyone he wishes.
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So I'm guessing Akainu is still blasting runaway marines while all this is going on?
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So I'm guessing Akainu is still blasting runaway marines while all this is going on?
I feel sorry for any Pirate that crosses paths with that psycho.
On a side note, I really like the design of this commander:
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what about inzuma guy?oda didnt show him in a while…
and it seems only kizaru is shown from the admirals,also where is garp? -
what about inzuma guy?oda didnt show him in a while…
and it seems only kizaru is shown from the admirals,also where is garp?Inazuma's still unconscious, Garp is on the Execution platform with Sengoku, Ace and his guards, Akainu is out and about dealing with rogue marines, and Kuzan is assessing the battle.
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image doesn't load…can you re-upload it please?
oops, sorry it took so long.
I decided to upload the image with better quality (the previous one had to be 1,5 Mb at max so I could upload it, resulting in taking out some things, besides the quality loss).This one here is a more complete image, with better quality, for download:
Whitebeard Commanders:
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And Pwngoat? 16imbacharacters
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i dont want it.. i really don´t want it that way!
i mean, we are talkin about whitebeard! he is da man!! the Chuck Norris of the Opverse!
he can´t die like this! i hope oda really goes all out and show´s how strong he really is!
but please..Oda please… don´t take him down like this :(
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I'm still looking forward to Kizaru facing off against the division commanders. Its time to see moar of em fight!
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@DMMRSHAMBLE'S:
idk if anyone has mentions this but i have a theory wheres BB .. maybe he is the true mastermind behind the betrayal maybe all the time he spent under WB he made alliances with some of the people closest to WB to try to get them to betray him
example one he asked Ace to join his nakama which im sure if he did (WHICH I KNOW HE WOULD NEVER DO) he would use Ace to betray WB … but instead now he used a Squad member .
I don't want to argue with your theory, but I it reminded me of an idea I've had.
What if Blackbeard doesn't even show up in this war? With the way things are going, maybe his plan was to incite a war, build his forces (or whatever he's doing) elsewhere, let it run his course weakening both sides, then later down the line fight the WB pirates in a semi-fair (at least, more then a backstab amidst a war) with on his own.
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I don't want to argue with your theory, but I it reminded me of an idea I've had.
What if Blackbeard doesn't even show up in this war? With the way things are going, maybe his plan was to incite a war, build his forces (or whatever he's doing) elsewhere, let it run his course weakening both sides, then later down the line fight the WB pirates in a semi-fair (at least, more then a backstab amidst a war) with on his own.
the thing is BB pirates will never be semi fair to Wb pirates,Whitebeard has a lot of ships and on each ship very strong commanders,Bb with just 9 pirates cant do much againts a string crew such as Wb,i mean hey BB and his crew couldn't even beat Magellan,and im pretty sure Magellan is not on the same level as Wb.
i think the hole plan of Bb involves this war cos this is the only place where Wb can be off guard like we saw in this chapter…
if Bb joins the war now,still as a shibukai,he just needs to worry about Wb and with all the commotion and the Wg admirals,this will be the best time to take out a yanuko. -
World Strongest Man…. just because the fruit then? PX-pwnage is still lame. Otherwise nice chapter. NEXT WEEK plz.
Nope, If I would be World Strongest Man, I would ignore that attack. Or then doing something about it before hit, even focusing to lead battle. I know he trustes his "sons" but come on, you suppous to be World Strongest Man, plz. Vital point my ass, I does not matter when you are you-know-what-man. Its all about his fruit, that long when Mr. Oda shows other way. Und no, no no no. I dont need excuses this week at all. PX army was lame already and this whitebeard being you-know-what-man, bullshit. Cut it and move on already, Mr. Oda. Hoping more One Piece next week.
Poor guy, he doesn't seem to understand anything at all. Oh well. BACK TO NARUTOEZ AND BLEACHEZ!
Squad > Whitebeard a.k.a failbeard…:sad: Such childish posts are growing nowadays. The worst thing is that they are posted without argumentation / reasoning to provoke other members (I know, they can bypass them and to not feed the trolls, but if we get a post like this every page of the thread, the discussion is assured)
Yeah, it's getting damn tiring. Seems like the opportunity for a good discussion is always thrown out of the window.
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Isn't the guy stabbing WB, just BB "its all part of the plan"?? He said he had a plan and a inside man was probably wat he was refering too.
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I feel sorry for any Pirate that crosses paths with that psycho.
On a side note, I really like the design of this commander:
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9508/unknowncommander8.jpg
He looks like a real badass. :ninja:whos that? yeah he looks badass
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Since the word "zombie" doesn't come up anywhere in this discussion (I've been out of touch so I haven't had a chance to read through it yet): Has anyone posed the idea that Squad's sudden betrayal was Moria's doing?
Squad was nowhere to be seen for a good portion of the battle. Most logical reason: he was killed in action. Once his "fight" with Jimbei was done, Moria found Squad, gave him a handy shadow, and sicced him on Whitebeard. Squad's disappearance from the fight, Moria's declaration that he'd find Whitebeard dying hilarious, and Squad's odd speech right before the Deed all suggest to me that's a good possibility for what happened.
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Wouldn't the shadow be too unstable at first? Unless Moria set it up at the start of the fight, but I thought Squad(?) was seen not too long ago.
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That depends entirely on the shadow. Luffy and Sanji's shadows were pretty rebellious at first, if that's what you're going by, but they're stubborn as hell, anyway. In fact, if I remember correctly, everyone seemed surprised by Sanji's, if not Luffy's rebellious nature, which suggests it may not be something that occurs that often.
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I agree, but consideirng the level of guys fighting here I dunno…
Anyway, it's a good theory! But I'd also hate for the starting point of WB's fall to be attributed to Moria's doing.
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Who's to say Moria got the shadow mid-battle?
Admittedly, this part is only a guess and should be taken as such, but if Moria can hang on to Shadows before going into a fight he can re-animate anyone he wants pretty much at will. And, if he can do that, that'd be exactly the thing to do in a battlefield guaranteed to be littered with fatalities.
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So theories on this:
1. Squardo is an agent of BB.
2. Squardo is actually Bon-chan in disguise under hypnosis
3. Squardo is a zombie being controlled by Moria
4. Squardo is being controlled by DoflamingoAny ones that I missed?
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I considered Doflamingo too, but doubt it, personally. Not just for the fact he's somewhere else entirely with Crocodile and Jozu. While making Squad move the way he did is one thing, I doubt Doflamingo can control their lips to make them speak how he wants.
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No can't be Doflamingo as he was already controlling Jozu when Squardo first disappeared.
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@Kairouseki:
So theories on this:
1. Squardo is an agent of BB.
2. Squardo is actually Bon-chan in disguise under hypnosis
3. Squardo is a zombie being controlled by Moria
4. Squardo is being controlled by DoflamingoAny ones that I missed?
No.2 sound impossible
No.3 & 4 i highly doubt so upon hearing the word he saidSquardo might be an agent of the WG
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@Kairouseki:
So theories on this:
1. Squardo is an agent of BB.
2. Squardo is actually Bon-chan in disguise under hypnosis
3. Squardo is a zombie being controlled by Moria
4. Squardo is being controlled by DoflamingoAny ones that I missed?
Yeah I think it is very possible that he is working just on his own and for nobody else
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Yeah I think it is very possible that he is working just on his own and for nobody else
Or squado is just an asshole…
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@Kairouseki:
So theories on this:
1. Squardo is an agent of BB.
2. Squardo is actually Bon-chan in disguise under hypnosis
3. Squardo is a zombie being controlled by Moria
4. Squardo is being controlled by DoflamingoAny ones that I missed?
Squardo did it for the lulz
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@Kairouseki:
So theories on this:
1. Squardo is an agent of BB.
2. Squardo is actually Bon-chan in disguise under hypnosis
3. Squardo is a zombie being controlled by Moria
4. Squardo is being controlled by DoflamingoAny ones that I missed?
Yep, you missed Squad being an agent of Kaidoh. Also Squad working secretly for Squad and Squad only is another possibility.
That said, wtf at option #2?
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#6. Squardo is a secret agent of Whitebeard who is secretly suicidal.
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#6. Squardo is a secret agent of Whitebeard who is secretly suicidal.
And now he secretly wants to reveal his secret?
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Doflamingo made one of Moria's zombies (a wb pirate) go to squardo and say that wb was talking smack about him behind his back. Big egos and this happened
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What i wonder, is Squardos Crew involved with this or are they just as surprised as all the others? And will they now turn against the other pirates? I mean, they are probably only no-names, but it would be another advantage for the marine.
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@Vagrant:
oops, sorry it took so long.
I decided to upload the image with better quality (the previous one had to be 1,5 Mb at max so I could upload it, resulting in taking out some things, besides the quality loss).This one here is a more complete image, with better quality, for download:
Whitebeard Commanders:
http://www.mediafire.com/?dwytf2hzfjlAwesome work..seriously…nice one.
I'm really disapointed we've not seen any of the Vice-Admirals in action yet. We saw them all the way back in 553...gettin ready to fight...but since then...nothin.
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Poor guy, he doesn't seem to understand anything at all. Oh well. BACK TO NARUTOEZ AND BLEACHEZ!
Yeah, it's getting damn tiring. Seems like the opportunity for a good discussion is always thrown out of the window.
No I m not, U mad? I understand everything. But you are good example of bad 2009 rookies then I guess. But you are right about that failbeard thing, stop that. Almost like with failhawk and Joz. But still, big part of Whitebeards tittle comes because his fruit, until Mr. Oda shows us some real fighting from old-days. Still awsum chapter like I said before, just with couple lame moments.
Thank you Vagrant Storyteller.
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@Kairouseki:
So theories on this:
1. Squardo is an agent of BB.
2. Squardo is actually Bon-chan in disguise under hypnosis
3. Squardo is a zombie being controlled by Moria
4. Squardo is being controlled by DoflamingoAny ones that I missed?
The main one you missed is Squardo wanting to kill Whitebeard.
Shock gasp I know but yes there are a lot of pirates who want Whitebeard dead.
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That said, wtf at option #2?
You making fun of my theory ?
So…
1. Squardo is an agent of BB.
2. Squardo is actually Bon-chan in disguise under hypnosis
3. Squardo is a zombie being controlled by Moria
4. Squardo is being controlled by Doflamingo
5. Squardo is an agent of Kaidou
6. Squardo is just an asshole working for himself
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Nope, If I would be World Strongest Man, I would ignore that attack. Or then doing something about it before hit, even focusing to lead battle. I know he trustes his "sons" but come on, you suppous to be World Strongest Man, plz. Vital point my ass, I does not matter when you are you-know-what-man. Its all about his fruit, that long when Mr. Oda shows other way. Und no, no no no. I dont need excuses this week at all. PX army was lame already and this whitebeard being you-know-what-man, bullshit. Cut it and move on already, Mr. Oda. Hoping more One Piece next week.
Poor guy, he doesn't seem to understand anything at all. Oh well. BACK TO NARUTOEZ AND BLEACHEZ!
yeah,she's always like that