In before lock
If only they had some kind of thread for theories that don't deserve their own thread.
Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
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Your original thread was moved to Manga.
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in before lock too, and kinda expecting luffy's mother to be a milf
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Couldn't decide if it should be in general or manga. But I did move your first one over there, so I'm just gonna merge these two together as a start…
And merged again. Have a good day~
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We post theory here yes? I think the brave Usopp's crew will eventually go to Sniper Island. I'll be waiting, in The Ancient Forest.
Sniper of the Ancient Forest Pirates
Have withstood pain to create many weapons.
Yet, those hands will never hold anything.
So as I pray,
Unlimited Blade Works.
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I think, that WB will die in this battle, round about the same time ace gets saved.
This way all great powers are weak. The WG lost a lot of fighting power, WB is dead, Jimbei and Hancock left the Shin, some shin are defeated, Shanks and Kaido also lost a lot of fighting power in their fight.
So, the whole world is in chaos. Ace and the remaining WB Pirates, Shanks have to sail and protect the islands they granted cover. The WG has to do the same think in the "old world".
Everybody wants to become a pirate, cause of the missing dominant forces, a new age of Pirates is coming.
What do you think? Sounds like a few more years One Piece.
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According to the Q&A in the recent American Shonen Jump, Oda said that right now he's not sure if she'll appear in the story yet, but that she's probably still alive and is a tough, middle-aged type. Like this, basically. (Yes, I was the one to originally post that.)
I highly doubt he has anything to do with Amazon Lily.
If she looks like that Dragon has weird tast.
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If she looks like that Dragon has weird tast.
Well, you never know, some people just don't age as well as others, and I'm sure Luffy was a steady source of gray hairs when he was a little kid.
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Well, you never know, some people just don't age as well as others, and I'm sure Luffy was a steady source of gray hairs when he was a little kid.
Yea probably, but I hope she doesn't look like that.
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She should be an ex pirate (and a powerful one at that) and an exeptional beauty or MILF either way lol
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kuma's devil fruit was inplanted in other pacifistas same as kizaru's lasers so the px fighting iva is not real kuma he is just a pacifista that has kuma's devil fruit inplanted in him ! while kuma is sitting somewhere else !
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Screw that noise, Oda has already stated that Devil Fruits are exclusive to one person at a time.
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So, I was thinking about this arc, and Luffy… and most people will probably roll their eyes at this one, but whatever. It's about Ambition. It's also basically fanfiction; giving a scenario to help explain the overall concept. Yep...
Ok, so Luffy has used his little leaky burst of Ambition three times now: Motobarou, Kuja, Christmas Wolves. We also have debate about whether or not he used the prediction ability that Sandersonia used, so there's that. I figure, at this point, it goes without saying that Oda will continue to slowly integrate these abilities into Luffy's skillset; I do not, however, pretend to know how or when. The theory, if you want to call it that, revolves around my wondering if Luffy will end up fighting against Kizaru more, and if he could/would do anything against him even were he given the chance. Basically, Kizaru is the primary Admiral looking to take down Luffy, and appears to be the most active right now on the battle front. Aside from that, we know Luffy has declared a sort of vengeance upon Kuma, Sentoumaru, and Kizaru that needs to be resolved in some manner. I think it is also worth noting that the Admirals have basically been portrayed as "annoyances" to people like Whitebeard, being (theoretically) closer to New World Captains and Division Commanders.
Anyway, I basically was thinking of a way that Oda could handle a situation like that and make it believable. One idea that crossed my mind was that Oda keeps having Luffy subtly and unintentionally use bits and pieces of Ambition we are familiar with. Move prediction here (Sonia), increased defense there (Marigold/Sentoumaru), the burst / release thing at some point, and then finally imbuing his fists and punching Kizaru. Now hold on!! I am not suggesting he fights and wins Kizaru, or that he even does "well"; I just think it could/would be pretty cool if he manages to accidentally hit Kizaru a time or two. Like, for example, since the first hit was unintentional, the next few hits phase through Kizaru. Then, when he gets really frustrated, he manages to land a hit a second time, but then misses more again and eventually gets pulled from the fight or saved. In the end, he might begin to understand what he was doing, but it could still take a long time (series wise) for him to be capable of successfully using it consecutively or intentionally.
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So Luffy gets angry, hits Kizaru, gets less frustrated because he thinks he can now hit kizaru normally, he tries to hit him again, fails, gets angry, hits him again.
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That's basically what I said, yeah, but it was just a very rough and simple scenario. Oda typically does things much different that I expect, so I doubt that is anything near what would happen. The rough concept is all I really wanted to bring up; Luffy unintentionally using different aspects of Ambition that we have seen, leading up to, or including, dealing damage to a logia user. Kizaru is just the here and now, and could provide a decent (holy sh**!!) two-page spread.
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THEORY: Luffy and some of the other strawhats are going be taller by the end of the series
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I wouldn't mind seeing Luffy beat the crap out of Borsalino right now. Borsalino has become the least intresting admiral for me right now and it would just be boring to see him fight again in the future, just kill him off already Oda!
Did you know that according to chinese mythogloy, the dragons of east had a certain special ability? They could control the weather, after I read that I'm positive that Dragon got the mythological dragon zoan fruit.
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Did you know that according to Chinese mythology, the dragons of east had a certain special ability? They could control the weather, after I read that I'm positive that Dragon got the mythological dragon zoan fruit.
That's pretty interesting. It's just weird that his name is Dragon; a bit too coincidental…
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Which is exactly why it won't happen: Oda's too smart to name his characters after their powers. (Blackbeard doesn't count) In fact, that re-inforces the idea that he ate the Wind Wind Fruit. Remember Ivakov's flashback with him? S/he knows what his power is.
Just a place-holder until I find a more interesting picture.
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Which is exactly why it won't happen: Oda's too smart to name his characters after their powers.
Not necessarily. The name of Whitebeard's fruit, for instance, is the same as his laugh. "Gura". Granted, this isn't exactly the same level of coincidence, but it's still another example of a seemingly coincidental naming scheme. There is also the possibility "Dragon" isn't his real name, but a nickname or something; but that's even more unlikely since his intro box included it as his name.
Remember Ivakov's flashback with him? S/he knows what his power is.
Do you even know what the purpose of that flashback was?
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I bet all my money that Dragon has Weather-Weather fruit. I think that's is a best choice, because we all remember what happened at Loguetown.
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Not necessarily. The name of Whitebeard's fruit, for instance, is the same as his laugh. "Gura". Granted, this isn't exactly the same level of coincidence, but it's still another example of a seemingly coincidental naming scheme. There is also the possibility "Dragon" isn't his real name, but a nickname or something; but that's even more unlikely since his intro box included it as his name.
Do you even know what the purpose of that flashback was?
I'm well aware that many Fruit Users laugh like their power. Remember Perona? And you even said yourself, that's not as much of a coincidence, thus defeating your point.
The purpose was to show how close the two of them were. But I'm talking about what s/he said specifically: Ivakov associated the common eastern wind currents with how he's often looking to the East, and thusly wonders if this means he has friends or family in that ocean.
Just a place-holder until I find a more interesting picture.
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I'm well aware that many Fruit Users laugh like their power. Remember Perona? And you even said yourself, that's not as much of a coincidence, thus defeating your point.
How does it "defeat" my point? My point is that, unless we are to believe they intentionally changed their laugh, having a laugh that is identical to the name of the (extremely rare and unique) power you have is pretty darn coincidental. And for multiple characters to have the same coincidence as well? It is only slightly less coincidental because a name has more impact on the readers and the people in the series; we find it more believable that their laugh matches, but in reality both are pretty coincidental. It is less likely for that very reason, I agree, but not impossible. Not in this series, at least.
The purpose was to show how close the two of them were.
I would say the purpose was to show and confirm Ivankov's suspicions about Dragon's family. It shows Dragon was thinking about Luffy, either intentionally or by 'animal instinct'.
But I'm talking about what s/he said specifically: Ivakov associated the common eastern wind currents with how he's often looking to the East, and thusly wonders if this means he has friends or family in that ocean.
Ivankov said that whenever he stands out in the wind he faces the same direction. The emphasis isn't on the wind, but the direction he faces. He doesn't say, "When you look east the wind starts blowing" or "Whenever the wind blows east you look that way"; he says, "Whenever you stand out in the wind you always point the same direction". How does this confirm that Ivankov knows what "power" Dragon has?
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I predict that a yonkou will appear towards the end of the war.(which is close now after the stabbing)
And if it is Shanks who appears, I predict that Zoro will be next to him(Another Strawhat at last).
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I'm not saying they changed their laugh, but it's more plausable and subtle than changing their name. Your point was that Oda might be dumb enough to name a character after their power because he fasions their laughs the same way; but you're clearly already aware that names and laughs are two completely different things. Why must I explain this?
In any case, Ivakov mentions the wind when talking about Dragon. I never said it was confirmination; it's just another example on the long list of Oda's allusions.
Just a place-holder until I find a more interesting picture.
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(Just read the 562 chapter and saw people saying that Doflamingo could have control the guy that stabbed WB) but i dont hink Doflamingo controlled him.
I always wanted to say this: :happy:
About what is the DF of Doflamingo.
Its a "string" devilfruit
He uses it to control others just like a marionette/puppet by invisible strings because so far we havent seen someone lost its will or conciousness when being controlled by Doflamingo thats why i think he can only control the body movements and thought of by using "strings" and the way he moves his fingers when his controlling someone like a puppeteer furthermore the way that he cutoff Oars Jr leg so cleanly like being cut by a sword could have been done by a "string" as well..
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Let me put it this way: if it were anything else I'd be surprised.
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It's more plausible and subtle than changing their name.
To us, yes. This wouldn't be the first time in the series that someone had a name that was a coincidence of sorts. Dragon's would just be, by far, the most blunt and specific. Which is, again, why I said it is unlikely. Not that it matters, as I only found the reference interesting and do not really believe it will happen. You might want to recall that my original post said I thought it was too coincidental, and that you followed up by eliminating the possibility entirely. I don't think it will happen, but I don't think it is beyond possibility. Oda could make it work, one way or another, and I bet you would accept it if he did.
In any case, Ivakov mentions the wind when talking about Dragon. I never said it was confirmation; it's just another example on the long list of Oda's (possible) allusions.
It could be seen that way, yes. However, you said, "Remember Ivakov's flashback with him? S/he knows what his power is." You seemed pretty certain that the scene confirms Ivankov's knowledge of the power Dragon may or may not have. Was that just a poor choice of words or a typo?
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Hmm the names and monikers thing makes me wonder the meaning behind Shiryuu's moniker, "of the rain".
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Rain of blood is most likely.
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Which is exactly why it won't happen: Oda's too smart to name his characters after their powers.
What about Smoker? :ninja:
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What about Smoker? :ninja:
Good one! I honestly can't think of anyone else who is that obvious.
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No one else obvious, but as we've seen recently, there's also Onigumo.
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What about Smoker? :ninja:
No one else obvious, but as we've seen recently, there's also Onigumo.
Ah! Haha, thanks. I knew I was forgetting some obvious examples. I didn't want to make a claim until I remembered exactly who.
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Soon to be Dragon.
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To us, yes. This wouldn't be the first time in the series that someone had a name that was a coincidence of sorts. Dragon's would just be, by far, the most blunt and specific. Which is, again, why I said it is unlikely. Not that it matters, as I only found the reference interesting and do not really believe it will happen. You might want to recall that my original post said I thought it was too coincidental, and that you followed up by eliminating the possibility entirely. I don't think it will happen, but I don't think it is beyond possibility. Oda could make it work, one way or another, and I bet you would accept it if he did.
It could be seen that way, yes. However, you said, "Remember Ivakov's flashback with him? S/he knows what his power is." You seemed pretty certain that the scene confirms Ivankov's knowledge of the power Dragon may or may not have. Was that just a poor choice of words or a typo?
It was either a poor choice of words, or I was just getting ahead of myself.
And seriously, why did neither of us remember Smoker? I hate his name anyway.
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What about Smoker? :ninja:
Personally, I always thought it was related to his smoking habit :ninja:
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(Just read the 562 chapter and saw people saying that Doflamingo could have control the guy that stabbed WB) but i dont hink Doflamingo controlled him.
I always wanted to say this: :happy:
About what is the DF of Doflamingo.
Its a "string" devilfruit
He uses it to control others just like a marionette/puppet by invisible strings because so far we havent seen someone lost its will or conciousness when being controlled by Doflamingo thats why i think he can only control the body movements and thought of by using "strings" and the way he moves his fingers when his controlling someone like a puppeteer furthermore the way that he cutoff Oars Jr leg so cleanly like being cut by a sword could have been done by a "string" as well..
The thing that bothers me about Doflamingo's ability is why Oda put so much mystery and suspense around it. Usually every time a characters using or showing their abilities there will always be some line that goes "I'm a <insert fruit="" name="">user. I can <insert what="" they="" can="" do="" with="" the="" fruit="">" or some random box yelled "HE'S A <insert fruit="">USER!!!". Kinda like how Marco and Jozu DF was introduced. I think almost every DF user have that kinda introduction. Robin told others Enel possessed a powerful DF, Foxy's crew told Luffy and co about their leader Foxy is also a DF user. Sengoku stated WB have the power to destroy the world because he can create an earthquake and so on.
With Doflamingo, you kept getting a hint and a showcase of his ability but yet, for some reason Oda still kept it as a mystery. What's the point of keeping it as a mystery if the readers already goes "Oh it's definitely a string fruit or something string related". Oda could just revealed it instead of toying with us and keeping the ability vague. Maybe the big surprise is Doflamingo revealed "I'm not a DF user" because I couldn't think of any twist such as "My ability isn't string, this is my actual ability! <insert a="" twist="" df="">Fufufufufu" but I highly doubt that will happen since every hint leads to the string ability.
Kudos for Oda if he can think of anything creative beyond string abilities because it's really hard not to associate Doflamingo with non string ability now. All I'm wondering is why he still not revealed the ability yet. He doesn't have to revealed everything that the ability capable of doing, he could at least confirmed to us what the ability is.</insert></insert></insert></insert>
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The thing that bothers me about Doflamingo's ability is why Oda put so much mystery and suspense around it. Usually every time a characters using or showing their abilities there will always be some line that goes "I'm a <insert fruit="" name="">user. I can <insert what="" they="" can="" do="" with="" the="" fruit="">" or some random box yelled "HE'S A <insert fruit="">USER!!!". Kinda like how Marco and Jozu DF was introduced. I think almost every DF user have that kinda introduction. Robin told others Enel possessed a powerful DF, Foxy's crew told Luffy and co about their leader Foxy is also a DF user. Sengoku stated WB have the power to destroy the world because he can create an earthquake and so on.
With Doflamingo, you kept getting a hint and a showcase of his ability but yet, for some reason Oda still kept it as a mystery. What's the point of keeping it as a mystery if the readers already goes "Oh it's definitely a string fruit or something string related". Oda could just revealed it instead of toying with us and keeping the ability vague. Maybe the big surprise is Doflamingo revealed "I'm not a DF user" because I couldn't think of any twist such as "My ability isn't string, this is my actual ability! <insert a="" twist="" df="">Fufufufufu" but I highly doubt that will happen since every hint leads to the string ability.
Kudos for Oda if he can think of anything creative beyond string abilities because it's really hard not to associate Doflamingo with non string ability now. All I'm wondering is why he still not revealed the ability yet. He doesn't have to revealed everything that the ability capable of doing, he could at least confirmed to us what the ability is.</insert></insert></insert></insert>
Oda is keeping doflamingo's power as well as most of mihawk's abilities a secret as they are going to appear later in the story and does'nt want to ruin thier fighting moves and styles before thier respective big fights.
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I think that DoFla can control other peoples blood and Mihawk has so sharp eyes that he can cut with them.
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The thing that bothers me about Doflamingo's ability is why Oda put so much mystery and suspense around it. Usually every time a characters using or showing their abilities there will always be some line that goes "I'm a <insert fruit="" name="">user. I can <insert what="" they="" can="" do="" with="" the="" fruit="">" or some random box yelled "HE'S A <insert fruit="">USER!!!". Kinda like how Marco and Jozu DF was introduced. I think almost every DF user have that kinda introduction. Robin told others Enel possessed a powerful DF, Foxy's crew told Luffy and co about their leader Foxy is also a DF user. Sengoku stated WB have the power to destroy the world because he can create an earthquake and so on.
With Doflamingo, you kept getting a hint and a showcase of his ability but yet, for some reason Oda still kept it as a mystery. What's the point of keeping it as a mystery if the readers already goes "Oh it's definitely a string fruit or something string related". Oda could just revealed it instead of toying with us and keeping the ability vague. Maybe the big surprise is Doflamingo revealed "I'm not a DF user" because I couldn't think of any twist such as "My ability isn't string, this is my actual ability! <insert a="" twist="" df="">Fufufufufu" but I highly doubt that will happen since every hint leads to the string ability.
Kudos for Oda if he can think of anything creative beyond string abilities because it's really hard not to associate Doflamingo with non string ability now. All I'm wondering is why he still not revealed the ability yet. He doesn't have to revealed everything that the ability capable of doing, he could at least confirmed to us what the ability is.</insert></insert></insert></insert>
Interesting, after reading your post i tried to think of a case similar to doflamingo, but couldn't recall any. You're right, that's a bit weird. Especially since doflamingo was first seen using his abilities at the meeting in marie joa years ago, and he even got another show off a bit later when he uses sarquiss to kill bellamy. Yet we still don't know what exactly his ability is, even though bigshots like whitebeard allready revealed their power. :blink:
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Okay a question, what was WB's nickname in his 40's(Roger's time)?
His beard couldn't be possibly white.
My answer: nothing, because he wasn't a pirate back then.
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Okay a question, what was WB's nickname in his 40's(Roger's time)?
His beard couldn't be possibly white.
My answer: nothing, because he wasn't a pirate back then.
Fleet Admiral Edward Newgate sounds good for me.Well he was a pirate when Roger was executed as he offically became the strongest pirate of the sea by defualt. It did never actually say if WB was a pirate when he fought with Roger but i dunno
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Okay a question, what was WB's nickname in his 40's(Roger's time)?
His beard couldn't be possibly white.
My answer: nothing, because he wasn't a pirate back then.
Fleet Admiral Edward Newgate sounds good for me.Why not? White's far more acceptable as a natural hair color than pink or green.
