Hancock vs. Hatchan
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Hachan just got serious.
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If it wasn't for the Hancock hate i would have voted Hatchan because of shinpanman's campaigns, i do like Hancock more, but not more enough to ignore these awesome campaigns. But sorry, i just can't ignore the flaming. Your a good player Shinpanman, but campaigning is a team sport.. and your team sucks.. sorry. it's not you, it's them.
That's a pretty sorry reason to vote for a character. I'd prefer to vote for my favorite. who cares what other people think about her?
Besides, thousand-lion seems hell bent on defending EVERY fucking criticism of her that's thrown out. So he's got it covered (i guess). So no need to worry about haters, just….
vote...
hachi :happy:
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Through the years not only has shinpanman drawn some of my favorite fan art but his campaigns won my heart, Hatchan my vote is yours, you cook just like me and just like Sanji fight the good fight brother.
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I REALLY doubt negative campaigning has any effect on this match with Hancock ahead by 70 votes (I'll admit it may lose a dozen or so voters but still).
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People are voting for someone who's all ''I'm a bitch. LOVE ME!!'' over a lovable, goofy idiot who goes beyond the impossible and fights with six swords? Who makes awesome food? Who doesn't mind having his hair cut off in a fight? Who actually shows repentence for his villainous acts, unlike a certain someone? Tsk tsk, Arlong Park. I thought you could do better than this.
I REALLY doubt negative campaigning has any effect on this match with Hancock ahead by 70 votes (I'll admit it may lose a dozen or so voters but still).
It had an effect on me.
I like Hachi alot, but the bile from the he-man anti-Hancock group that keeps regurgitating " "She's a girl and she uses kisses for an attack! That's lame!" or "She's a domineering bitch that gets cute when around Luffy! That's lame!"" "She's a disgrace the the shichibookie!" or "you're only voting for her breasteses!"… Those guys just piss me off so much I have to vote for her just to spite them.
Its usually beneath me to place a vote out of sheer spite, but... there ya go. I guess, you can attract more flies with honey than vineger, hrm?
I don't think this logic will extend to round three when it really starts to count, but... so it goes.
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Eh, anti-campaigns should at least try to be funny. I did like the pedo one this time around.
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That's a pretty sorry reason to vote for a character. I'd prefer to vote for my favorite. who cares what other people think about her?
Besides, thousand-lion seems hell bent on defending EVERY fucking criticism of her that's thrown out. So he's got it covered (i guess). So no need to worry about haters, just….
vote...
hachi :happy:
I said i DO like Hancock more then Hatchan, however. shinpanman's campaigning would have been enough to turn me around to vote for Hatchan. but it would need very little to turn that around, and the hate is that little part. With no postreadings i would vote Hancock because believe it or not, i think she is a good all around character.
p.s. and yes i am a little ashamed of thousand-lion's campaigning, but atleast it's better then Jadosra's "it's not proven Hancock is strong but it is proven Momonga is strong, also Jimei could beat Hancock since she is low tier Shichi and he is high-tier" :getlost:
p.p.s oh and thousand lion a tip. don't fight fire with fire. ex. "Momonga is stronger then Hancock" vs "The shichibukai is a stronger organization then the marines" . :getlost:
Not cool, not cool :happy:
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The marines are also part of the powers of the world, and it was never said that Shichibukai is a stronger organization.
There are only 7 Shickibukai who's strength is supposed to be comparable with the ENTIRE marine force. Do the math.
Based on the fact that Luffy defeated her two best warriors easily on Gear Second
Which is completely irrelevant as this series has displayed, there can be a huge power gap between the boss and his/her underlings. I mean look at freakin' Absalom and Moria.
and on the fact that Boa never did anything more than her DF abilities,
Other than shooting Luffy.
the fact that she got desperated when she saw her abilities werent working
Because it never happened before. She still has her Haki to back her up.
and that she ran away from 2 battles.
Lol, if you're talking about Momonga and Luffy, she could have beaten both if she felt like it.
This comparing with every other Shichibukai is bad.
Massacring an entire crew in one attack including a vice-admiral, defeating Luffy in one hit, having the same power as the first mate of the Pirate King and probably the Pirate King himself, yeah very bad. At this point, her resume's more impressive than Do Flamingo's and we've barely scracthed the surface of her true power.
Not stated
Actually yeah it was.
We saw Garp kicking ass, thats cool but Kizaru and Ao could defeat him, Momonga is at just about a little less than Garp if they are in the same rankings.
So you agree that an Admiral is much stronger than a Vice-Admiral?
About the power gap argument, you're comparing two ranks with dozens of rannkings, but nice try
What multiple rankings? We've got the boss and his second-in-commands and there's a huge power gap between them. There's no fixed rule that the power difference has to be small.
There were needed a lot of them while Momonga did it single handely.
So a bunch of Blugori is equal to strength to Momonga? Doesn't that mean Luffy and Ivankov are stronger than Momonga?!? Can you see yet why it's retarded to say Momonga is incredibly strong just because he took out a Sea King?
They still found it interesting
Yes but nothing stellar.
So what? He's a freaking vice admiral, a wound on his hand is nothing.
So what is that despite his cold-hard exterior, he was going just as gaga over Hancock on the inside as the rest of his men which was the point of that bit I quoted you on.
Using what?
Haki. Hell, not even that. Do you expect Momonga to fight Hancock while stabbing his hand the whole time?
Point taken.
K, then.
That organization would use the Marines to attack because CP wouldnt clearly enough.
Wasn't Boa capable of defeating them?
How do you expect Hancock and her country to beat the Marines when Whitebeard might not be able to. Why is this even relevant? We're taking about Hancock vs. A Vice Admiral not Hancock vs the Marines.
You could say the obvious: "You're right"
Also, the marines are also part of the powers of the worldYou're not right.
7 Shickibukai against all the Marines in the World. You do the math.
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I said i DO like Hancock more then Hatchan, however. shinpanman's campaigning would have been enough to turn me around to vote for Hatchan. but it would need very little to turn that around, and the hate is that little part. With no postreadings i would vote Hancock because believe it or not, i think she is a good all around character.
p.s. and yes i am a little ashamed of thousand-lion's campaigning, but atleast it's better then Jadosra's "it's not proven Hancock is strong but it is proven Momonga is strong, also Jimei could beat Hancock since she is low tier Shichi and he is high-tier" :getlost:
p.p.s oh and thousand lion a tip. don't fight fire with fire. ex. "Momonga is stronger then Hancock" vs "The shichibukai is a stronger organization then the marines" . :getlost:
Not cool, not cool :happy:
Eh? Momonga is weaker than Hancock and the Shickibukai are higher in rank and equal to strength to the Marines. What's the confusion?O_O
@robbybevard:
It had an effect on me.
I like Hachi alot, but the bile from the he-man anti-Hancock group that keeps regurgitating " "She's a girl and she uses kisses for an attack! That's lame!" or "She's a domineering bitch that gets cute when around Luffy! That's lame!"" "She's a disgrace the the shichibookie!" or "you're only voting for her breasteses!"… Those guys just piss me off so much I have to vote for her just to spite them.
Its usually beneath me to place a vote out of sheer spite, but... there ya go. I guess, you can attract more flies with honey than vineger, hrm?
I don't think this logic will extend to round three when it really starts to count, but... so it goes.
Word, man word.
That's a pretty sorry reason to vote for a character. I'd prefer to vote for my favorite. who cares what other people think about her?
Besides, thousand-lion seems hell bent on defending EVERY fucking criticism of her that's thrown out. So he's got it covered (i guess). So no need to worry about haters, just….
vote...
hachi :happy:
Only the stupid ones which happen to be numerous.
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@robbybevard:
It had an effect on me.
I like Hachi alot, but the bile from the he-man anti-Hancock group that keeps regurgitating " "She's a girl and she uses kisses for an attack! That's lame!" or "She's a domineering bitch that gets cute when around Luffy! That's lame!"" "She's a disgrace the the shichibookie!" or "you're only voting for her breasteses!"… Those guys just piss me off so much I have to vote for her just to spite them.
Its usually beneath me to place a vote out of sheer spite, but... there ya go. I guess, you can attract more flies with honey than vineger, hrm?
I don't think this logic will extend to round three when it really starts to count, but... so it goes.
Sorry you felt that way.:sad:
But the current results make it seem like it wasn't a close match to begin with. So when you have nothing but the kitchen sink…
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@Thousand:
Only the stupid ones which happen to be numerous.
fair enough i suppose.
But I still think the "vote for hancock, poor girl's being hated on" excuse is pretty lame. Since when have you posters cared about flaming so much?
Plus, If it were a more popular character than Hachi, like lets say, i dunno… Zoro, I wonder how many people would be standing up for our Amazon Warlord?
I bet barely anyone.
Poor hatchan
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Hatchan: why….? why isn't "Thousand Lion-chan" able to believe wholeheartedly in me? It's just a wavering dream i blurted out...to defeat hancock. Is there no place for a era with dreams?
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ehhh….
no matter how much u try it seems boobs > anything else:getlost:
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Also, I may cry a little too, and making shinpanman cry is low…
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ehhh….
no matter how much u try it seems boobs > anything else:getlost:
why so? do you just reduce a woman to her boobs?:getlost:
grow up, man!! -
why so? do you just reduce a woman to her boobs?:getlost:
grow up, man!!Not just her breast, there's alot more to be desired.
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I wonder how many people are voting for Hancock with the hope of Shinpanman drawing her punting Chopper.
-raises hand-:cheerful:
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Calm down lion-chan, it's only a tournament .__. and she's even winning by more then 60 votes. I'd say there's no need to defend until it's a close race. :P
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Well too bad! Because Hachi is losing no one will ever know how it ends! >:|
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why so? do you just reduce a woman to her boobs?:getlost:
grow up, man!!i meant they would prefer a beautiful woman > anything
but u cant deny there is a number of voters voting for boobs
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@Thousand:
Eh? Momonga is weaker than Hancock and the Shickibukai are higher in rank and equal to strength to the Marines. What's the confusion?O_O
it is never stated that the Yonkou, shickibukai, and marines are equal in power, only that all of them is needed to keep the balance in the world. i thought all marines + all Shickibukai vs one Yonkou should be enough to prove that. it think it goes as a group not individual members the ranking is Shickibukai < marines <younku. and="" what="" keeps="" the="" younku="" from="" obliterating="" world="" goverment="" is="" fact="" that="" unlike="" shickibukai="" marines="" does="" not="" cooperate="" with="" etch="" other,="" fighting="" among="" them="" self.<br="">And it is never showed who is stronger between Momonga and Hancock, as they did in fact not fight. However I do believe that Momonga is FAR weaker then Hancock, because of the said reasons that he had to stab himself, he was sweating. but as Jadosra have stated earlier that is nothing to go after.
My point in all this is, do not guess strength from very loose facts.</younku.>
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i meant they would prefer a beautiful woman > anything
but u cant deny there is a number of voters voting for boobs
What beautiful woman? Hancock is like a boring version of Robin.
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Hancock…. I've never been 100% on her. She originally struck me as lame, but she grew on me slightly later. I need to see her in an actual fight though. That'll seal the deal. For now, Hatchi ftw.
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http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/2/2c/Hatchiportrait.png Hatchan: why….? why isn't "Thousand Lion-chan" able to believe wholeheartedly in me? It's just a wavering dream i blurted out...to defeat hancock. Is there no place for a era with dreams?
Eh? I love you, Hatchi. I just love Hancock much more!!!
@Chopperman:ehhh….
no matter how much u try it seems boobs > anything else:getlost:
Bonney had boobs and is probably a more popular character than Hatchi. I think it's time people drop this sorry excuse.
@Kaze:-raises hand-:cheerful:
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Calm down lion-chan, it's only a tournament .__. and she's even winning by more then 60 votes. I'd say there's no need to defend until it's a close race. :P
It's not about winning or losing. It's just, like all this negative campaigning pisses me off:/ But anyway, like I said, I only call out the stupid criticisms. Have you heard me say anything about her personality for example? No. Some call it boring, others lame, whatever, it's their opinion. but when, for example, someone claims that she can't fight when she comes from an island with a culture DEDICATED to strength and fighting, I gotta call that out.
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its a matter of opinion if u see that she's not beautiful
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I am enraged/disgusted that Hatchan is losing! Think back on the hilarious moments he gave you in the Arlong arc! Think on his selflessness on the Archipelago! Takohachi Number Nine is the best attack in the manga!
You mean think about how he was a mindless drone who was ready to slaughter SHs…really glows in my eyes now...
Archipelago? That was after he was captured by some weaklings right?
That was when he was dramatising about Tenryubito for ages and how SHs must not under any condition do whatever against them?
Then the guy gets shot from couple of feats and he delivers 2 of the biggest "JOKES" in OP:1. The master hatchi one of the strongest Arlongs man, a guy who can wield 6 swords cant even dodge a bullet in the world of OP where supernatural is possible…
2. Not only that…instead of being heavily wounded after the drama he made about the shot he took...we see him perfectly ok not long after...
I am not voting for a guy:
- that follows idiots blindly
- is a coward
- is a weakling
- is a drama queen second only to vivi
- wont die after the drama he displayed
Voting for Hancock…
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@Thousand:
Bonney had boobs and is probably a more popular character than Hatchi. I think it's time people drop this sorry excuse.
I like Bonney, but I'd find it hard to believe she's more popular than our main man Hachi.
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it is never stated that the Yonkou, shickibukai, and marines are equal in power, only that all of them is needed to keep the balance in the world. i thought all marines + all Shickibukai vs one Yonkou should be enough to prove that. it think it goes as a group not individual members the ranking is Shickibukai < marines <younku. and="" what="" keeps="" the="" younku="" from="" obliterating="" world="" goverment="" is="" fact="" that="" unlike="" shickibukai="" marines="" does="" not="" cooperate="" with="" etch="" other,="" fighting="" among="" them="" self.<br="">And it is never showed who is stronger between Momonga and Hancock, as they did in fact not fight. However I do believe that Momonga is FAR weaker then Hancock, because of the said reasons that he had to stab himself, he was sweating. but as Jadosra have stated earlier that is nothing to go after.
My point in all this is, do not guess strength from very loose facts.</younku.>
K, dude, I'll keep that in mind.
What beautiful woman? Hancock is like a boring version of Robin.
The only similarity between them is the long black her, other than that, from the facial structure to the shape of the eyes to even the fringe of their hairs, it's all different.
I like Bonney, but I'd find it hard to believe she's more popular than our man Hachi.
Heh, really? I always thought Bonney was more popular being a Supernova and all:/ I guess we might found ut in a future tournament if they're ever pitted against each other. Anyway, the point is, she has boobs too and was popular yet she lost to Hancock by a wide margin. I think people really need to stop with this whole boobs business.
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The only similarity between them is the long black her, other than that, from the facial structure to the shape of the eyes to even the fringe of their hairs, it's all different.
I agree, they're very different, Robin's hot.
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Aww, I is feeling sad for Hatchi now … dang guilt tricks ...
Shinpan, only you can do this ! Make Hatchi Win !!Even though I support Hancock ...
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But she doesn't really look like the most beautiful woman on earth.
The last pages are entertaining :) This tournament is a really serious buisiness.
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@Thousand:
It's not about winning or losing. It's just, like all this negative campaigning pisses me off:/ But anyway, like I said, I only call out the stupid criticisms. Have you heard me say anything about her personality for example? No. Some call it boring, other lame, whatever, it's their opinion. but when, for example, someone claims that she can't fight when she comes from an island with a culture DEDICATED to strength and fighting, I gotta call that out.
Your problem is you tend to treat your opinion as fact.
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But she doesn't really look like the most beautiful woman on earth.
Heh, in fact, she looks like Nami, Vivi, Conis, large number of her crewmembers….
It is canon that she's beautiful...but Oda sucks at drawing females.
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HANCOCK VS HACHI, the series, parts 1 thru 6
You know what to do…
yes i know what to do..
u won me over..
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Your problem is you tend to treat your opinion as fact.
Eh? Do I? I thought I usually respect opinions. I usually always go IMO. I guess this round is making me heated.
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Your problem is you tend to treat your opinion as fact.
It's the same for those against arguing against him/her(?). hopefully thousand lion will stop now that he/she says he/she understands.
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@The:
Heh, in fact, she looks like Nami, Vivi, Conis, large number of her crewmembers….
It is canon that she's beautiful...but Oda sucks at drawing females.
I love the way Mr. Oda draws females. They look cartooney yet hot at the same time and he can draw ugly ones as well as beautiful ones. Heck, I loved the way he drew all those women at Amazon Lily. I especially liked Marguerite, Aphelandra, that girl with the notebook and Blue Fan(I think her name was)
Edit: I'm a him.
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@Thousand:
It's not about winning or losing. It's just, like all this negative campaigning pisses me off:/ But anyway, like I said, I only call out the stupid criticisms. Have you heard me say anything about her personality for example? No. Some call it boring, others lame, whatever, it's their opinion. but when, for example, someone claims that she can't fight when she comes from an island with a culture DEDICATED to strength and fighting, I gotta call that out.
Every time though? Really? Your just setting your self up to
be/look like an annoying fan who takes things way to seriously.I'm not saying that your are, but I'm just saying be careful. :P
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@The:
Heh, in fact, she looks like Nami, Vivi, Conis, large number of her crewmembers….
It is canon that she's beautiful...but Oda sucks at drawing females.
QFT :)
I don't know why every "beautiful" woman must have a big hat and have only skin on their bones… I guess oda loves silicon a lot!
Don't vote for silicon
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[/hide]vote for hachi!
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But she doesn't really look like the most beautiful woman on earth.
The last pages are entertaining :) This tournament is a really serious buisiness.
You didn't know?
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@Fiasco.:
You didn't know?
I'm amazed at seeing that people put so much energy into defending their characters.
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I'm amazed at seeing that people put so much energy into defending their characters.
Ok, but Hancock is a shichibukai, while the octpussy is weak. She went through so much in her life, her story is the epitome of the american dream!
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@The:
Heh, in fact, she looks like Nami, Vivi, Conis, large number of her crewmembers….
Wait a second… I think you might be onto something there....
Holy crap, I've just drawn a very disturbing connection!
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Take from that what you will… :blink:
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Wait a second… I think you might be onto something there....
Holy crap, I've just drawn a very disturbing connection!
! [qimg]http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3395/disturbing.png[/qimg]
Take from that what you will… :blink:
I am starting to dislike Hancock even MORE now somehow..maybe it's my rage against seeing a picture of Vivi.. not sure…XDDD I love you soo much Shinpanman <333333333333
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This is heading more and more towards a investigation of Boa's character and detective Shinpanman demands the lead lol.
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Wait a second… I think you might be onto something there....
Holy crap, I've just drawn a very disturbing connection!
Take from that what you will… :blink:
Oda really needs to get a better variety of women.
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pedos look alike? huahahahaha
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Well one eats children, the other lusts after them, but yes, they're both predators of sorts…
where did the whole baby eating thing with Vivi come from anyway?
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uncle Ivotas told us the truth.