The War With Whitebeard
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Seriously though, for all the "Dragon appearing" theories there have been, now is the best time for him to appear. He's a revolutionary and enemy of the World Government. It'd make sense for him to do something that disrupts the WG someway.
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I really see Blackbeard killing Whitebeard for some reason… I don't know why... but I do.
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He's a failure and he's gonna get crushed. You can fap to him all you want, this is the reality.
Actually the reality is that Kizaru was been fought on an even level from what we saw with an old man that stopped being a pirate 20 years ago….
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He's a failure and he's gonna get crushed. You can fap to him all you want, this is the reality.
So the only person in One Piece who is not a failure is Gol D. Roger, who is dead? Good logic mate.
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So the only person in One Piece who is not a failure is Gol D. Roger, who is dead? Good logic mate.
Indeed. Being called the king of the sees by a legend like Garp and being a Pirate all his life and being on par with Roger and now being the strongest in the world (which pretty much everyone agrees on), having a 1600 man fleet. And reighning in the new world for I don't know how many years doesn't sound like failure. He might not be Pirate King yet but he IS called king of the See and isn't that somewhat the same. Perhaps he needs some kind of information to be able to find One Piece and maybe this is information WB can't get for some reason. That doens't make him a failure at all. See what he has accomplished. It even seems he governs entire islands just by his name such as fisdhman island. If THAT is failure, then so are you my friend
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And the fact that the world government needs all Shichibukai and all marine forces just to stand a chance against Whitebard and his crew. Seriously,Whitebeard being a failure is the dumbest shit I have ever heard here. And that is really bad.
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This topic coule have used some moderation for the past couple of pages..
In fact it's probably lock-worthy by now, some of these posts hurt my brain.
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Think there is a 50/50 shot Dragon actually makes an appearance.
Its just, if not more, likely we'll hear of some big move his organization made after the defeat of Whitebeard totally undermining any perceived victory the Government and even Teach thought they had made.
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ok, That would just be awesome… really, that would be THE twist
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Can someone clarify this for me, as it was mentioned a while back and I forget exactly where.
Whenever someone was explaining the balance of power, he did say that the Marines + Shichibukai work together to balance the four yonkou, correct, and NOT to balance all pirates?
As in, the marines do basic police work in the four main seas and the reputation of the shichibukai keeps rookie pirates relatively in line, but the collective power of the Marines and the Shichibukai is gathered to counter the 4 yonkou (assuming each of their pirate crews as well) in the New World.
That would mean, if assuming that Whitebeard as the strongest Yonkou is not a farfetched assumption, that the World Government gathering all of its main forces for this battle isn't actually a big deal.
If you think about the One Piece world right now, the World Government IS NOT actually that powerful or that all encompassing of an entity. Piracy is COMMONPLACE and pirates, unlike in the standard perspective (real world), only fear direct action by the government (running into a marine ship) than the potential action of a government.
Essentially, there is a lot of sentiment here regarding how nonsensical it is for the World Government to amass so much of its main force for one Yonkou, but I ask if it is really that nonsensical.
This of course is premised on that one explanation, and a bit of what we have seen so far (minor Marines doing police work, rookie pirates easily rising in the main four seas).
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Guy with the strength lvl as Roger and still can't do shit in 22 years? Sounds like epic failure.
Neither it was ever stated that every pirate chases One Piece nor what One Piece actually ist.- If you think of Skypiea and the poneglyph it is very well possible that One Piece isn't something you couls gather by force. Ohara is gone for 20 years and there is a single person left capable of reading poneglyphs…
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Neither it was ever stated that every pirate chases One Piece nor what One Piece actually ist.- If you think of Skypiea and the poneglyph it is very well possible that One Piece isn't something you couls gather by force. Ohara is gone for 20 years and there is a single person left capable of reading poneglyphs…
Whatever the case is, he has enough strength to obtain it at the least. 22 years is too long imo, I doubt it took Roger that long.
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Yes Roger did took that Long, during Brooke's old pirate days possibly he was at he's 40's, he heard the Rookie named Roger making a name for himself, now he's 86 years old right? Roger took 8 years to obtain his title and OP if he started being a pirate like Luffy at 16 years old if that is lol :P
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Even if, Whitebeard probably started around same time, so it would be Roger's time + 22 years.
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THANK.FUCKING.YOU
It's about time this thread got merged.
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White beard will probably be able to solo 2, maybe all three admirals, but some people are saying that's a ridiculous statement, but why is that?
Isn't Whit Beard the closest man to OP??
Isn't he currently the Strongest man in the world???
Last time I checked wasn't he feared throughout the world???
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't White beard a Yonkou, Which is to say he is one of four captains that rules over the new world?
So after taking all that in, We realize that White beard has been talked about since we met Ace, in Chapter 154. And now, 379 chapters later, he's finally going to make his move and we'll actually get to see White Beard, the man on par with Roger, Fight.
So after all this hype we've gotten why wouldn't I say he can solo three admirals? :p
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Whatever the case is, he has enough strength to obtain it at the least. 22 years is too long imo, I doubt it took Roger that long.
In case you did not notice, most people have been pointing out that obtaining One Piece is not simply a matter of strength, other things are likely to factor in as well such as the ability to read Poneglyphs and whatnot.
Seriously, people in the forum have nothing against you or your arguments, but the way you shove your own opinion (i.e. Whitebeard is overrated) into other's throats and forcing them to take it is infantile and quite annoying. Grow up.
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And i suppose the massive build-up has atleast a little to do with the secondary threat the Marines could have to face. I mean i wouldnt trust the shichis any farther than i can throw them. Those opportunistic bastards would turn on them at at the first chance they got. So the Marine would have to gather every fighting man theyve got to ensure their co-operation.
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The thing is. If he is that strong why can't WB defeat the 3 other yonkou's and finally be proclaimed as PK who cares about the OP treasure anyway you could get any treasure you want by raiding villages/towns/cities if you're strong. BUT he can't.
My guess is this once WB attacks another yonkou the other 2 yonkou takes his opportunity by backstabbing WB and so the cycle goes on, but if 2 yonkou teamed up they could be unstoppable, this explains why the WG is so afraid of this happening. But it will never happen, since all of em want's everything not sharing em.
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Maybe the instruction on how to reach One Piece is in a ponoglype (which WB probabily doesn't know how to read or even interested)
so obtaining one piece doesn't really mean that he/she is the strongest in the world, but everyone else thinks so becuase of what gold rogers said
beside, WB might already be very satisfied with himself and does not want to persue any more power than he alread has (he's old)i pridict that Robin will be the first to find One Piece (or at least its location) and either tell luffy to get it or give it to him
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^ what WB satisfied?, Ace clearly said it " I will make Whitebeard Pirate King!" that's actually pretty obvious that WB still want's to be PK
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^ what WB satisfied?, Ace clearly said it " I will make Whitebeard Pirate King!" that's actually pretty obvious that WB still want's to be PK
All that proves is Ace's loyalty to White beard.
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All that proves is Ace's loyalty to White beard.
Well no. It also proves that Whitebeard wants to be pirate king. Otherwise it'd be pretty bull heaedd of him to "want to make Whitebeard king" against his wishes. There's no way Ace could force him.
Really now, it's basically a fact that Whitebeard is the strongest known pirate in the world and the strongest pirate until someone comes along to defeat him. It's also a fact that he wants to be pirate king. These really don't need any more clarification, unless in the next dozen chapters Whitebeard changes his mind–and frankly he seems a bit too stubborn for that.
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Obviously Roger entrusted the key/sacred relic/Whatchamacallit that gives access to his treasure to his loyal pet whale and sent him of into west blue as a final fuck you to Whitebeard. Where he also serves as one of the many tests you need to pass, If you wanna be pirate king you have to be nice to the suicidal whale:silly:
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do you really think that oda wouldn't put them in the war. He has to it would be stupid for 100chapters to keep flipping from the SH to the War. Also i think that ace will be saved by luffy and then ace will decide to join the SH pirates but WB wont let him and he and luffy fight. also i think shanks will fight an admiral and that dragon and garp will fight with garp dying. In the end the government will end up retreating and i think that BB will attack Luffy and WB when they fight killing Wb.
there's no way Luffy would fight wb as wb is on par with admirals and we've seen their power first hand, and I think Ace will send Luffy away
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there's no way Luffy would fight wb as wb is on par with admirals and we've seen their power first hand, and I think Ace will send Luffy away
If WB was on par with admirals as you stated he wouldn't be called the strongest in the world. I think you need more then 1 admiral to defeat him.
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If WB was on par with admirals as you stated he wouldn't be called the strongest in the world. I think you need more then 1 admiral to defeat him.
Totally, if even Rayleigh stands a chance against Kizaru, Whitebeard will be more than a match for each of them. Ace is probably strong enough to face an admiral and there are still Jozu and Marco. And personally, i think WB has a lot of men that are equal to vice-admirals.
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I really wonder why people who're discussing with the troll get banned instead of the troll himself. I guess they did…something else not related to this thread. That makes sense.
Back on topic, has anyone discussed Whitebeard's advantage of surprise? With the level of power Whitebeard's crew must have it's very possible that he could cause immense destruction while avoiding the shichibukai admirals. I mean, it makes sense that this crew must have some strategy or tricks right? They're sailing on the greatest sea in the world, which is probably tame compared to the current Grandline.
Most people think that it's going to be a straight up fight, but even those people who suggest that Whitebeard is powerless before these forces must admit that this makes sense. And, Whtiebeard's ships must be powerful if they sunk 23 marine ships--maybe moreso then the Buster Call. They could cause a huge amount of damage in a short time.
Hey, maybe WB will destroy Impel Down! That's be convenient for the current arc.
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I believe that the World Government + the Shichibukai are more than a match for WB. The reason that the WG and the world are afraid of this upcoming war is that they understand WB is not some pushover pirate. The WG knows a confrontation with WB will entail huge losses on both sides and though they will most likely end up winning the damage will still be done and the WG will be weakened from the fight.
This is probably why the WG has not gone after any of the Yonkou before and chose to gain the cooperation of the Shichibukai.
Just my 2 cents.