I figured as much, which was why I added the unfortunately part ~~ as it would be humorous. =)
Ok, good. Jokes don't transmit well over text.
I figured as much, which was why I added the unfortunately part ~~ as it would be humorous. =)
Ok, good. Jokes don't transmit well over text.
Then again, none of their bounties got raised after thriller bark, now did they?
True, there were no witnesses, but also because it was an embarrassment to the WG.
It really all depends if the WG can turn the story into their favor, otherwise, the existence of it is denied.
the WG decided not to let the news of Moria defeat public a cover up … OMG kuma witnessed it and reported everything might want to read that arc over again.
@MonkeyDMalcolm:
OMG kuma witnessed it and reported everything might want to read that arc over again.
Dude, Kuma is part of the WG, get your facts straight.
Sorry late on reply for my initial question about Sanji's bounty. Was heading home from work
But he doesn't deserve it at all. Just like said earlier. The CP9 obviously didn't get to make a report or anything. So it is all uknown who beat who and just considered a team effort.
Now when they all get to the bridge Sanji dissapears while the rest except exausted Chopper fight the Captain commanders. Now when bounties come out, they give the rest roughly 25-40 million bounty, whom were shown fighting off the guys easy. Yet they give Sanji 77 million, who was not there at all.
They give Chopper 50 beli cause they assume he isn't a fighter cause they never see him fight. Now lets assume they would obviously assume Sanji fighter cause he is human. Why is he thrown so much higher than Nami/Sogeking/Franky? The train was weaklings. You can't tell me that Wanze and that boxer guy are worth 77 million.
So I believe Sanji shoudl be like the other around 40 million or so. I think Oda just gave us 77 million just cause he is stronger than the others. But the facts don't add up.
There is a possibility teh wg knows he's on the same plain of strentgh as Zoro due to the large number of times they fight throught series. If tahts the case then he should pose just as much of a threat as Zoro as long as he's following luffy. But you ahve to admit Nami and ussop helped hold of marines on teh bridge of hesitation but nami was just throing lightening and she had Robin backing her up. Ussop was sniping so they couldnt get close to him. But as far as the WG is concerned sanji took out that entire sea train by himself in hand to hand combat and broke Ussop and franky out of it (Though franky did get recaptured) Then they also saw him kick downa building with one foot. When jumping off the blind gomora So i think we can reason out 77. But this only serves to further my ideal that F the running gag, give sanji some recognition!
@MonkeyDMalcolm:
the WG decided not to let the news of Moria defeat public a cover up … OMG kuma witnessed it and reported everything might want to read that arc over again.
Yeah Kuma witnessed it, reported it, then got yelled, and THEN the WG decided to cover it up. Simple as that.
Dude, Kuma is part of the WG, get your facts straight.
you say that their weren't any witness to Moria defeat on TB i say Kuma was there and he reported it to the WG you then tell me to get my facts straight???? WTF !
@MonkeyDMalcolm:
you say that their weren't any witness to Moria defeat on TB i say Kuma was there and he reported it to the WG you then tell me to get my facts straight???? WTF !
:getlost:I meant no 3rd party witness. The WG knows it happened, they're just denying it.
I think it depends on the Admiral's report. Punching a noble only summons an admiral right? Why would a death sentence increase the bounty?
if luffy bounty increases after this incident can the people on the opposite said put in their sig MonkeyDMalcolm pwnz u.
@Yonkou#3:
Thank you Ivotas. This makes the most sense to me, and i am gonan stick with this as my idea untill porven otherwise. Also believing this means that i can know what will happen to some extent, at least in my own prediction. If the admirals comes then no bounty raise. If they dont come then the bounty will defently raise. Thats my idea.
That could work in combination with my idea of the next level in growth of the Strawhats strenght. If they'd defeat an Admiral then this would mean a new milestone in display of strenght (wich is something that scares the Gorosei more then punching a weak Tenryuubito).
Such a thing however I could imagine would work best in the New World. I see similarities between the Skypiea and Blackbeard thing. Blackbeard chased Luffy at the end of Jaya but when he was about to get him the Knock Up Stream intervened. A similar thing could happen with the Admiral and Fishman Island. So he would just have to go to the NW via Maryjoa and wait for the Strawhats arrival there. Considering that Fishman Island will be a major arc lots of time will pass (chapterwise) until it's done with, meaning that if they defeat an Admiral afterwards the timing for a new bounty would be proper. So while this incident will not directly raise the bounties the consequences of it could lead to it.
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As far as the entire Sanji bounty thing is concerned, I find it rather amusing. This is a friggin' Shonen Manga so of course somebody who defeated one of the strongest antagonists will get a higher bounty then those who defeated the weaker ones. It would lack any Shonen-esque sense if Sanji would have gotten a lower bounty then the guys who defeated Kumadori, Fukuro or Kalifa.
I doubt that they will get an increase and I also doubt that the Straw Hats will have to fight any other pirate crews. We saw how they were. They didn't even move. If anything, this just causes all of them to leave the island quickly. Either way though, the biggest thing is that Rayleigh is with them and he is not one to take lightly at all.
I don't mind having the crews bounty go up. I think sanji and robin and even franky should be able to defeat one of the supernovas that are over 100 mil.
I also think that Brook should get a new bounty… with a new picture... I don't think they ever showed his picture on the bounty that he had... they only said it was 33 mil. So it would be nice to see what kind of picture or pose he would do... or what kind of description to describe him.
I also think that Brook should get a new bounty… with a new picture... I don't think they ever showed his picture on the bounty that he had… they only said it was 33 mil. So it would be nice to see what kind of picture or pose he would do... or what kind of description to describe him.
Apparently they did. ;)
I doubt the government will be able to cover up this incident since too many people/civilians know unless they take some drastic measures. Therefore I believe that the crew will get a bounty increase, but I doubt it will as big as the increase from Ennies Lobby.
I think it depends on the Admiral's report. Punching a noble only summons an admiral right? Why would a death sentence increase the bounty?
I ll say it like this:
Bounty?…
Why is it needed?
Bounty is issued when a certain institution wishes to apprehand a certain XYZ dude…
The higher the bounty the bigger the need to do so!
Bounty in OP?
Imo very much like in real life bounty in OP indicates the need to apprehand a certain pirate (X person), or as its said the threat they represent to the WG = bounty…bigger the threat bigger the NEED to apprehand him/her
Bounty is therefor an extra source of power in other words...it makes sure that the WG has help in apprehanding the person X
So ppl who are suposed to be eliminated and hunted by the top in the WG marines...can still have bounties...
Why? noumerous reasons some of them stated above...but perhaps a few non the less
1. Admirals are 3 if its written one will come and wack you it doesnt mean he will actually knowing SHs etc they ll probably get away with it... and thus it would mean admiral will have to follow them..(so they are on the run again...so BOUNTY)
2. the current situation with the WB and all doesnt really let them have an admiral or god forbid two chasing only one target...well lets say it can cause the nobles are important...but its in their best interest they are captured as quickly as possible and higher bounty helps with that
It is mearly my opinion and have explained why that the bounty can be raised for the SH crew and also believe at least some of the members will get the raise in the bounty cause of the incident...like someone nicely put it...WG doesnt have a problem setting a bounty of 10 bils on SH cause of their pride...it has nth to do with it...they have a problem cause they need the resources for that...and with the noble himself offering to pay the whole package the bounty can go up up and up...
Now before anyone says that they do care about their pride and have covered the thriller bark incident..so why not raising the bounty afterwards...the answer is simple cause the raise in bounty from thin air would indicate SHs have done smth to deserve it and thus raising speculations = which could lead to the possible revealing of the indicident...however this time they cant really prevent world from knowing thus the bounty goes up...
Well thats only my theory naturally I can be wrong...We ll just have to wait and see I guess...
Blue
The World Government doesn't have a choice but to increase the bounties of people who attack the Tenryuubito. You have to realise that these people have great sway and the WG believe they should be unquestionably respected. Thus right now, i only see three people getting a bounty increase coming out of this arc; Luffy, Usopp and Sanji.
As i see it, the amount of each raise will be menial; Usopp up to 50m beli, Sanji upto 100m or 120m and then Luffy up to 350m beli.
While bounties aren't raised with every arc, they will take this opportunity to raise the bounties. While news of them beating another Shichibuiki hasn't leaked, the WG will make sure that their increased threat level is noted.
I forsee other reasons to raise the bounty of the strawhats in this or the next arc. This will be presented in such a way that it will be impossible to decern if the hitting nobles is the biggest reason, only part of the reason or have any part at all in the raise.
I think its still too soon for a bounty raise, maybe when their in the NW. Plus, the Marines were already here becauase of Rayleigh. There will be a report later on it, which will suprise everyone on the fact it happened, but no one was expecting it.
The Marines were in the Auction House to observe Rayleigh…
I think its still too soon for a bounty raise, maybe when their in the NW. Plus, the Marines were already here becauase of Rayleigh. There will be a report later on it, which will suprise everyone on the fact it happened, but no one was expecting it.
The Marines were in the Auction House to observe Rayleigh…
You appear to be confusing the guards with the marines.
No … the marines that are surrounding the auction house are there to see Rayleigh
No … the marines that are surrounding the auction house are there to see Rayleigh
The marines surrounding the acution house are not inside the auction house.
See spot. Se spot run. run spot run.
Yeah but thats what he meant in the first place … common sense please
"he"? now you lost me. who?
me thinks it was about sabret00thes post
poor usopp…..... hahahah. their bounty will increase coz of the witnesses, so no cover ups, but how much? well the question is will it increase because of the tenrybuto pawnage or the admiral fight turnout. if they take out some tenrybuto then big whoop plenty more of them but an admiral is not so replacable, just look how big it was when crocodile was beat, and i would say the admirals are probably twice as strong and five times more precious, food for thort?
I think its still too soon for a bounty raise, maybe when their in the NW. Plus, the Marines were already here becauase of Rayleigh. There will be a report later on it, which will suprise everyone on the fact it happened, but no one was expecting it.
The Marines were in the Auction House to observe Rayleigh…
You appear to be confusing the guards with the marines.
No … the marines that are surrounding the auction house are there to see Rayleigh
The marines surrounding the acution house are not inside the auction house.
See spot. Se spot run. run spot run.
:D
Guess you just didn't read angel emfrbl's sig then eh? =P
ahnnnn now I understand why the "why "he"" :D
i hope ussop gets a bounty in his name so he has two one for ussop and one for soge king
There's no way that he'll get dual bounties, check here: http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-484/page016.html
I'm pretty sure that Kuma would've reported back on the Mugiwara. So if he's realised that Sogeking is just a name/outfit, i'm sure the WG know by now. Which supports my theory of Usopp getting a bounty raise along with Sanji and Luffy.
There's no way that he'll get dual bounties, check here: http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-484/page016.html
Well, as I mentioned before ~~ I knew it was unlikely/impossible simply because the WG already mentioned here that the whole crew had bounties (and I am sure they weren't aware of Ussop's minor absence from the crew, so they knew).
Regardless lol, I thought it would be a funny gag. Even if it somehow did happen as a misprint (by the WG) or something. Since technically Luffy and Chopper still do not know right?
the whole reason they gave him the sogeking wanted poster and not have
"Sogeking" usopp
like they have
"strawhat" Luffy
"Pirate hunter" Zoro
"black leg" Sanji
ect.
Is nothing to do with government it was just so Oda could keep Usopp's bounty a secret from the townspeople and all that. He just didn't want to have an Usopp bounty out there. Will he someday make it so the town knows or else keep it a secret the whole time. Who knows. Like the kids said, the town won't believe it is Usopp but they know. Its probably so at the end of One Piece when usopp goes back home, he will be the same old Usopp. he will be telling stories true this time but they all think he is just lying again.
the whole reason they gave him the sogeking wanted poster and not have
"Sogeking" usopplike they have
"strawhat" Luffy
"Pirate hunter" Zoro
"black leg" Sanji
ect.Is nothing to do with government it was just so Oda could keep Usopp's bounty a secret from the townspeople and all that. He just didn't want to have an Usopp bounty out there. Will he someday make it so the town knows or else keep it a secret the whole time. Who knows. Like the kids said, the town won't believe it is Usopp but they know. Its probably so at the end of One Piece when usopp goes back home, he will be the same old Usopp. he will be telling stories true this time but they all think he is just lying again.
I'm really not a fan of those types of running gags so i hope not.
You appear to be confusing the guards with the marines.
No I didn't, there were Guards AND Marines there. :getlost:
Edit:
I'm still being referred to a "he" despite my signiture…
Wow thats... Depressing.
Please note everyone; females do exist on the net outside of what you see on porn sites. ^-^'
No I didn't, there were Guards AND Marines there. :getlost:
Edit:
I'm still being referred to a "he" despite my signiture…
Wow thats... Depressing.
Please note everyone; females do exist on the net outside of what you see on porn sites. ^-^'
Please state the chapter, page and panel in which you see Marines INSIDE the auction house?
Please state the chapter, page and panel in which you see Marines INSIDE the auction house?
sigh there were guards inside and Marines outside… I actually meant to write "At" in my orginal post instead of "In" and couldn't be bothered to edit it. Didn't think anyone would crib about it...
I thought wrong, people like to nit pick on perfection. :getlost:
Edit:
Hey what can I say... Guilty as charge every so often I get the edit annoyance from wiki editing and can't be bothered to do it in forums because I see no need to be "perfect".
It's not nit-picking. Sorry if you felt i was doing that or picking on you. Honestly, your initial post just sparked a bit of discussion and it just so happened that "in" versus "at" was a huge and perspectively monumental difference in this case. Thus, if there were Marines in the auction house, it would've been such a relevant discussion point.
There were Government Agents (or an agent) in the court house though.
It's not nit-picking. Sorry if you felt i was doing that or picking on you. Honestly, your initial post just sparked a bit of discussion and it just so happened that "in" versus "at" was a huge and perspectively monumental difference in this case. Thus, if there were Marines in the auction house, it would've been such a relevant discussion point.
There were Government Agents (or an agent) in the court house though.
Lol. Having one of those days… Where anything can wrong. I got sent home early from a course I was on because a ceiling light blew and smoke was coming out of it. Ever since then things have been silly stupid.
I should be more careful... You'd think of making stupid mistakes for the last 8 years of internet use I'd learn...
But still. If the Straw Hats are reported its going to be a bit vague. You have the World Nobles word, but the moment Rayleigh stepped in it may have resulted in things may be reported back differently. Who knows. There are several pirates in one place... The Straw Hats may get off slightly lighter this time.
I put things down to being a bad time to up bounties. We just introduced the 11 Supernovas, to have them surpassed this soon is odd wouldn't you agree. Luffy and co HAVE to do something to MAKE them really stand out from the others. To make the WG panick more over them then the others. I imagine its going to take more then this to up their bounty.
For some reason, i just don't see Capone or Apoo making it off the Island. I would say the same of Urouge but he's from Sky Island so I figure he'll be around for a fair bit yet. I think there's little point in calling them Supernova's unless one or two burn out before they leave the Island and some more burn out before making it to the new world. I honestly don't think they'll all be significant and with only five routes on the other side of the red line. i have a feeling we'll only see six of the crews (at most) make it there.
Okay,cause I'm bored. ;o
My guesses for their bounties after this whole arc thing…
Luffy - 500 million --- Defeated Doflamingo,punch a tenrburyito and some other stuffs we shall know later...
Roronoa Zoro - 270 million - Defeated some of the rookies(?)Powerful enemies?
Usopp --- 150 million (For hitting Roswald,which according to the crowd is more of a higher ranked tenyurbito than the one Luffy punch)
Sanji --- 149 million (Pissed Usopp have higher bounty than him)
Brook --- 100 million (Revealed that the 33 million bounty he had aeons ago when inflated is equal to almost 100 million. x--x)
Nico Robin --- 90 million
Franky --- 88 million
Nami --- 50 million
Chopper --- 40 million...(I hope x__x)
Kind of old quoting ya hear, but a thought just popped into me that hadn't when first saw your post.
About Brook and the inflation. I would doubt it that he is worth so much more. Think of the two Giants. They were worth 100 million each 100 years ago. ANd based on all the people we know of current pirates and bounties, their 100 million I think still fits them
If there was a bounty increase, my estimation would be:
Luffy: 400,000,000
Zoro:220,000,000
Sanji: 130,000,000
Nami:24,000,000
Usopp: 10,000,000 As Sogeking:40,000,000
Chopper: 55
Robin: 112,000,000
Franky:68,000,000
Brooke(Will get an updated photo as well): 48,000,000
did you just predict that they would raise choppers bounty by 5 berri?
did you just predict that they would raise choppers bounty by 5 berri?
It's still an increase. :O
@Ne0:
next bounty increase for Luffy: 900 million - 1 billion
don't know when though
My bounty predictions for Luffy:
4th bounty - (predicted at ~1 billion)
3rd bounty - 300,000,000 (Predicted @ ~300 million - came true)
2nd bounty - 100,000,000 (Predicted @ ~90 million)
1st bounty - 30,000,000 (got caught off-gaurd)
for Zoro:
3rd bounty - (Predicted @ ~270 million)
2nd bounty - 120,000,000 (Predicted @ ~180 million)
1st bounty -60,000,000
& Ussop will probably get a bounty in his name, for "being a crewmember of the strawhats", similar to Chopper's "50 Berri bounty" .
& it will be hilarious to see Chopper's bounty rise by 5 berri but I haven't seen Oda repeat a joke over and over to death, yet.
You KNOW they're gonna increase, it's inevitable.
Besides, unlike Thriller Bark where it was only a select few who witnessed their defeat of a Shichibukai, there were a lot of people who witnessed Luffy punching out Charlos. Then too, there will undoubtably be witnesses to them fighting the Marines. In other words, they can't do a cover up like with Thriller Bark. Too many witnesses
Eh, actually, I don't think bounties will increase after the tenryuubito attack. Luffy punching out a tenryuubito is expected of a B300 million guy.
As for Ussop falling on Roswald, I think that incident will be forgotten and overshadowed by what Luffy did.
Eh, actually, I don't think bounties will increase after the tenryuubito attack. Luffy punching out a tenryuubito is expected of a B300 million guy.
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…. cause every 300 m guy is hot for a fight with an admiral? Didn´t see this.
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As for Ussop falling on Roswald, I think that incident will be forgotten and overshadowed by what Luffy did.
I don´t think it will be forgotten by Roswald though - a guy, that is so conceited that he never in his life shared the air with lowly folks, gets his face stomped in the dirt by a peasants butt …
…. cause every 300 m guy is hot for a fight with an admiral? Didn´t see this.
I don´t think it will be forgotten by Roswald though - a guy, that is so conceited that he never in his life shared the air with lowly folks, gets his face stomped in the dirt by a peasants butt ...
Roswald doesn't know that Ussop ass-stomped him.
Luffy might fight with the admiral, but if he doesn't, no bounty increase.
If he does, he'll go all the way and defeat the admiral and get his bounty increased to 1 billion. However, I don't see that happening. It's too soon. Maybe the arc after Fishman Island, this will happen.
Roswald doesn't know that Ussop ass-stomped him.
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He´d have to go as far as asking his daughter - if he is interested in this incident at all … (as I think he would be:happy:)
Ussop could get the increase in my opinion because he's currently not bound by a progression like Luffy's is, but all Shalria will say is that a long-nosed punk sat on his head. Roswald will demand that Ussop be executed, and the Navy will accept, because pirates are sentenced to death anyway.
Anyway, Ussop is a man whose adventures will be even greater than what he says they are.