Posts made by Verus

@Doffy.:

Jesus Christ guys wait until the arc is over and when you have actually read the arc in one sitting with good translations , like the arc's are meant to be , then you can complain about it .

Heard it first here, people.

Can't wait.

@Don:

Taking some time to find a new perspective on the whole issue seems like a fine plan.
By now its all way more dramatic as it has to be.
I hope you reflect a bit what was said to you and you will come back, maybe changed a bit Darth.

By now, I doubt anything except outright lying would help.

One thing is abundantly clear though: I will not be back before this damn arc finishes.

Not in a million bloody years.

Pah, the board will benefit largely from my absence. And I will benefit largely from my absence.

@Icarus:

They did have a problem that's why he was banned.

He insulted everyone's intelligence by pretending to be someone else while having exactly the same views, expressions and argument style and joining the forum a few days after being banned.

As I said he was being given the benefit of the doubt by the mods to see if he would tone it down, yet he could not see that and carried on like he was being clever and pulling the wool over everyone's eyes.

Mods knew day one. Hell, the idea of alternate account was Robby's. He came up with it around christmas.

Mostly because of all the bile associated with "Darth".

Why wait?

I honestly thought I could do it, but I think I'm done.

I'm done with your bitching about myself.

I'm done with attempts to force me into self-censorship of my own thoughts.

I'm done with systematic witchhunt and mobbing regarding everything I write.

I'm done assholes lying about me, and constantly belittling me.

I'm done with my thoughts being constantly misinterpreted and purpoesly taken out of context to create a better target.

I'm done with constant mocking.

I'm done with being guilty until proven innocent.

And I'm done with this community.

To you, my haters, imbeciles that are unable to go past the most basic assumptions, I have this to say: Rot in hell and go fuck yourselfs, bastards.

To you, people whom I respect and engaged with meaningful discussion and exchange of thoughts: Thank you. Especially Daz, Robzilla, and Robby.

Parts of my stay here were enjoyable, but recently it has become a chore.

And I said, I don't bother with things that bring me more grief then pleasure.

Since this post is sure to be reported, to the moderation and admistration: Be so kind as to ban me again, for the peace of my mind.

The show's over people.

This is the end.

Verus (Darth)

@SunnyBlue:

With the revelation in this new chapter, I really don't know where the story is heading.
So, if Korosensei dies "naturally" on March, he will blew up the earth as a result of the antimatter Lulzscience. The antimatter thing doesn't even make sense to me. But if someone end his life before March, he would die without blowing up the earth.
Assuming he doesn't really want to blow up the earth, shouldn't he make it easier for people to kill him?​

I think the flashback will go on for a few more chapters to tie up loose ends.

But… isn't he? I mean, considering all of the skills he posseses, can we really say that he is trying his hardest to avoid being killed?

Of course he isn't down.

I'm sorry, at this point it seems that the only way of me not getting on everybody's nerves is me not being here. At all.

Because you are all no longer rational about it.

And no, I am not overreacting. When people are arguing in favor of deliberate maiming and killing as morally acceptable pass-times to watch, just to disagree with my point that I don't like Dressrosa citizens, and then still act as if I am the one that's messed up, I'd say we passed the point when simple "Maybe you should just change your wording a bit" is a viable solution.

@RamistaR:

Awakened Chopper wouldn't be paralysed after using Monster Point IMO

Perhaps it is because his is chemically induced?

@RamistaR:

This is bullying :ninja:

Proper term is mobbing. And it borderline is.

@LuffydaPirateKing:

varus happened….again

You know, at this point, I'd say the rest of you are a bigger problem then I could ever be.

@andy:

In chapter 777 he said he was going to help people and other people went with him.
In chapter 780 we see him climbing down from the hill.
In chapter 781 we see him down in the town .
In chapter 783 we see him in town shouting .
In chapter 785 he gave his rally speech and don't forget that people was with him during all of this.

For it to happen in less then thirty chapters after birdcage started. Or him being more involved for that matter.

@andy:

hhmmm you ignore me when i show you king riku help people but now quote me.
how funny.

Not ignore. Miss. Quite an easy thing to do, when people throw as much info at you as they do at me.

For the record, what was that about Riku helping people?

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@Tyrano:

so why did you react to our posts..?
Never mentioned your username.

Oh yes, you were oh so very inconspicuous in your comments.

I reacted because it is an off-topic discussion that serves no purpoes but creating toxic atmosphere.

And I find it annoying that you are using me as a justification to start it.

@andy:

you would have to change the whole arc for that to happen .

Yes. And isn't that exactly the point?

@airy-0:

You can reason otherwise, but I was just pointing out a fact.

So was I.

@airy-0:

What logical leap are you making here?

None; what you have described is exactly the situation that we had in terms of early One Piece. Thus, I assumed since you are of opinion that it would be bad, you disliked when One Piece was using it.

@airy-0:

Telling a story is not about including all that's essential.

No, telling a story is about deciding what would be most beneficial to it, and then including that.

@airy-0:

And he will be so arrogant that he will force his opinion on his entire population?

Where did that come from? You asked for a reason for internal conflict; I gave you one. What does the population has to do with it?

@airy-0:

The citizens are not the only ones in the country.

And there is no possible way Oda could justify it?

@airy-0:

Why? Everyone knows the speech is always saved for the final push.

Cliches should not be conflicting with character's personality.

@airy-0:

Who says he isn't? There's no need to show that when most people are already complaining about the length of the arc.

Oda does, by showing him repeatedly just sitting around.

@airy-0:

And risk having all his new pirate friends caught.

And they are at less risk when he is actively gunning for just them how, exactly?

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@Tyrano:

And er, weren't you banned to drop what you are doing? By the mods, I mean.

I would have to been banned in the first place.

@Don:

Well, when you enjoy it that way, i just can´t deny finding it a bit odd in this extent
Too sad you ain´t willing to enjoy the manga for at least a few things recently, but your overall impression makes that difficult i assume.
You shouldn´t forget, that a story directed towards young adults, shouldn´t aim for perfect writing or no mistakes in continuity.
For that start reading some serious literature.
Even being able to debate about it, shows that OP has non the less reached here a high level, but it´s mainly just aiming for humourus entertainment and some action.
So with having false hopes for it to be, you miss the ride, not saying for each person some stuff could be different to enjoy it more…but being the grumpy guy on the side mocking it over and over for these reasons...yeeah.

You know, I praised the last chapter. Majority of it, in fact.

It got completly overlooked in favour of my minor gripes with the strings.

Why?

To this day, I don't know.

I asked some more veteran members about it, and they don't know either.

I seem to be an odd phenomenon, in that regard.

And no, I don't require the manga to be more than it has proven itself to be capable off being. If I did, I would not enjoy it in the first place.

@Tyrano:

Oh well wont be long till we see darth3.0 since he's doing exactly the same thing that got him banned first time.
just hope it doesn't take another year for that to happen lol.

@Icarus:

I think at the moment he is being given the benefit of the doubt by the mods, it wont last forever though.

Please remember that you have been politely asked by at least two mods to drop the subject.

@Don:

So true, but non the less your addiction to showcase your negative opinions seems to have no boundary.
You got your point across countless threads, but you ain´t tired to seek attention again and again.
I understand this, being the focus of something…who doesn´t desire that.
But in the same line of thought it´s pathetic to spend so much time on something you don´t like anymore.
Who are you kidding, trying to make a hobby for someone foul and going to such lenghts, on a forum mainly consisting of people, who ain´t share the majority of your opinions.
Thats what you want under the banner of "iam free to state my opinion!" and "You respond so it´s your fault"
Don´t get me wrong..you are and people are , but your urge is the one problematic.

Just curious, when you´re so done with the manga and you see you get kicked out here with your sozial internet behavior(lol, hope you get what i mean,hehe),
what is it, that makes you coming back and spending your days on this ?
The mentioned attention and so playing the well-known alternate i-net chara, your less perfect sozial skills or like Zephos getting some fun(but he also loves the series, so that at least makes sense) ?
Boredom ?

Why do I post those things?

Because I feel the need to share my opinions.

It is not that I seek attention. If did, as I said, I would mock Bleach and Naruto, which, I'm pretty sure, would bring me not only attention, but also approval.

And then, there are occasional chapters that remind me why I loved the series, and why I still keep reading.

In all honesty, I've re-read the entire One Piece a shortwhile ago, and I still really like the earlier stuff. I could go on for hours why plot points, action, art, characters fit together, and work for me.

And Dressrosa lacks that for me. It is that simple.

So I talk. And why the volume… well, it's easy to write it when you are working on a pc, and need a break from more serious stuff.

You are acting obtuse. And I'm pretty sure it is a deliberate attempt to provoke me, at this point. Not taking it, sorry.

@Doffy.:

That wouldn't happen to be the writer of 50 Shades of Gray and Twilight , right ? Because it would certainly explain a shit ton about your knowledge on the matter lol.

That would be rather hard, since I don't live in States.

But to use an example: Oda does not follow the guidelines you have provided.

I suppose that makes him a bad writer in your opinion, I would hazard a guess?

@Doffy.:

LOL does this simple and basic 101 writing stuff have to come from the mouth of big name authors in order for you to get it ?

No, but at the same time you provide basic instruction that nearly all professional authors clearly ignore. And I've been friends with some, which is actually how I get my personal perspective on writing.

@Doffy.:

…........... Eitherway you asked for prove , i provide one and now you find faults in that ? Yea i don't see any point in arguing anyfurther .

Of course you don't.

@airy-0:

Just take note that the level of negativity that you spread is unparalleled and really just overshadow a lot of other interesting discussions and points other people make.

No, the response to the posts I make is unparalleled.

Like forty something posts defending enjoying blood sports.

I do not create those alone, you know? You are all free to just let it go, and let me have my opinion. Nobody forces you to question it. Nobody forces you to make it the focus of the discussion.

You are setting your own house on fire, and then question the fire itself why is it burning, when it should totaly be not. It is not rational.

@airy-0:

And when it's less spread things get pushed around. In this arc, there were usually at least 5 or more events taking place simultaneously. If they all get a chapter or two, the cycle gets too long.
Since slipping in couple pages in chapters is distracting and can't resolve anything, it's impossible to always get updates on all the people while maintaining a focus all the time.
It's not like the past when there weren't that many groups of people to track.

You really must have hate most of the pre-timeskip arcs then, I guess?

@airy-0:

Like what? Running is only mode of transportation on land and it is a good way to show conversations, gags, the environment and the effects of events taking place. Not to mention it shows progress, or the lack thereof.

And all of it was, in your mind, essential?

@airy-0:

Why does Riku need internal conflict for someone that took so much away from him?

Because violence supposedly goes against his entire world view.

@airy-0:

He can't beat anyone of importance and fodder fights don't need to be shown.

Nobody said anything about beating anybody.

@airy-0:

Besides, he is also old and injured and is wanted, plus he just gave an inspirational speech that saved a lot of people.

Him being wanted stopped being a plot point a long time ago. And even when it was, Viola dismissed it. Turns out she was right. Who knew?

And he only just now gave said inspirational speech. He could have been doing that for the last forty chapters.

He could have been doing something, anything.

@airy-0:

Marines were already helping people, they were from the beginning.

No, I mean making the case for destroying Flamingo. Pretty sure Fujitora would have been a nice asset to have.

@Doffy.:

Because they were focused on , given plenty of screen time as Naruto's rivals / friends and were the new generation of ninja's ? Thus the disappointment when Kishi focused more on Uchiha clan bs then the new generation characters and he basically threw them away ? This is Naruto 101 dude .

Screen time means nothing, since Fujitora was also given plenty, and it does not qualify him as anything more then a side character in your mind.

And again, I do not question that people were disappointed, I question your hipocrisy in considering one of those a flaw, and another not.

@Doffy.:

Sasuke ? Again Naruto 101 .

Sasuke was never a side character. Unless you mean to say that everyone except Naruto was a side character, thus further proving my point above.

@Doffy.:

Here : http://www.novel-writing-help.com/minor-characters.html http://learn.lexiconic.net/characters.htm

Disregarding the fact that you provide pages that don't even have authors listed, much less any sources, I will point out that A) Definitioned are so blurred that Fujitora could be considered a major character in the light of them, B) If you want to follow that literaly, Oda's even worse author then you think I'm making him out to be.

@Doffy.:

Which side characters are you talking about ? Would you please kindly point at where people were disappointed in characters that were not Konoha 11 or Rock Lee in particular ? Also you really wanna point to Naruto where one of the most hated character in manga history went from a side character to the main character of the series which also ultimately destroyed the potential that series might have had ? IF so then lol .

Konoha 11 and Rock Lee are side characters, so why would I need to point some other ones?

And which character went from side to main and ruined the series?

@Doffy.:

Yes you can refer to this when you actually have a decent argument to present instead of the pretentious little nitpicks that you call "criticism" .

Mhm. I see the wealth of your counter-arguments, and evidence presented. Truly, I am no match.

Though I find amusing that you are calling out only me on the so called pretentious nitpicks.

@Doffy.:

Sure but can you provide any source for your opinion ? Or is it something you just made up on spot to support your already evidence-less argument ? Arrogance is bliss with this guy .

Can you?

Because so far you have only been provoking and providing useless flaming, not actual arguments.

@Doffy.:

Yea the physic of building , strings and gravity sure do get in the way rolls eyes .

Less then strawmen of people incapable of understanding the word opinion.

@airy-0:

There is really no need to spread your negativity that much when really it's just that your personal taste is conflicting with the way the plot is unfolding.

Neither is there really need to spread your positivity, nor negativity regarding my negativity, yet you are doing it regardless.

I'm afraid we both will have to live with it. Price of the free speech, as it were.

@airy-0:

More focus means less screen time for characters in extended periods of time, not only is that a pain in the ass for them to juggle events by months, it also frustrates tons of readers who want frequent updates for different characters.

No, more focus the same amount of screen time, but less spread.

Imho, three or two chapters of concentrating on one fight feels much more fullfilling then showing three pages of it once every five chapters, as if to say that they are still fighting.

@airy-0:

Every arc that covers a big distance or involves multiple objectives will require them to run around, I would rather prefer for that to be shown on panel even if it takes some chapters. It makes things more believable.

Oda has sacrificed believability for plot in many aspects of the story. Why not this one, specificaly? What makes running special, of all things, if you don't mind me asking?

@airy-0:

Can you expand on "Riku's philosophy and actions"?

More internal conflict regarding the approval of violently deposing Flamingo. More actual helping and leading people, and less sitting around. At least try to approach the marines for the benefit of the people.

Yeah, that in a nutshell.

@MadieV:

Without taking Fujitora and the marines into account, what do you think could've been done different?

Burgess, Sabo, Rebecca, citizens, Riku's philosophy and actions. I would have redone more then half of the fights. I think the structure of the arc also would warrant revision; less jumping around plot points, and more focus. Ah, and slower pace of individual plots.

And Fujitora, of course.

@MadieV:

Dressrosa, at least in my opinion, hasn't been that bad. Great chapters here and there, dragged out things that were actually not necessary and average good things.

Don't take the pessimistic approach. It would ruin your experience for sure.

It didn't.

Actually, lack of expectations quite improved my experience with Dressrosa.

Most of my raging stems from my more optimistic part of personality. Because I see how much Dressrosa could have been… and isn't.

Heh, that's why I've taken a pessimistic approach to Dressrosa. I'm either right, or pleasently surprised.

At this point, I honestly want to Burgess kick Sabo's arrogant ass, and get away with it.

As for him going after Law… while it would be logical, it is not a plot point that I would want to see.

@Owain:

So do you believe that Oda has treated the side characters in Dressrosa unfairly, considering that Bartolomeo, Sai, Cabbage, Kyros, Rebecca et al are side characters? Not to mention Law and Sabo- although calling Law a side character is debatable, I admit.

No, I believe that he has treated SOME of them unfairly. Burgess and Fujitora being first and foremost examples. And even in the case of Rebecca, I would hesitate to call her treatment fair.

Oda has not reached Kishi levels yet, he is not completly bad. Which is why I actually still care enough about the manga to follow it more actively then I do Bleach, for example.

I do not point those things for the sake of bitching, as some of you think, nor do I do it because I'm simply nitpicky. Little grievences mount up to become big ones.

If I critisize something, it is because it genuinenly influences my enjoyment of the story in a negative way.

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@CrazyMerlyn:

A) Bellamy was a dick to Luffy's friends. Is him getting angry at Doflamingo for mistreating Bellamy stupid? What about Bon Chan? What about Yokozuna?

There are plenty of people that found Bellamy being suddenly best buddies with Luffy stupid. Me included.

Bon Chan… well... yes? Don't get me wrong, I like Bon Chan a lot, but he did start a civil war that claimed many lives.

And what about Yokozuna? I don't remember them being enemies much.

@Doffy.:

I feel like many people do need to grasped the definition of side characters before they jump on this stupid and illogical bandwagon .

Side characters are secondary characters for a goddamn reason . It's not a good storytelling idea in any way to flesh them out or give them the same screentime as the main cast . Oda has still done far far more with his side characters than most mangaka's ever get to with their main cast but that is not a requirement in any way . The story ( as obvious as this shit really is , it feels like many people have to repeat it before it gets understood ) is about Luffy and Strawhats achieving their goals PERIOD .

How about you will go into Naruto thread, and say that Kishi is entirely right in his treatment of the side characters, because they are side characters.

I'm interested how this will go for you.

Believe what you will, your ideas about storytelling are not universal, and I don't have to treat them as such.

@Doffy.:

Read your post that i just replied to . My point should be rather clear about you bitching for the sake of bitching about everything .

And my point was that people are incapable of viewing subjective critisism as viable point of view, and thus make up argument that they present as infallible, when they really aren't.

Thus, your post was case in my point.

@Doffy.:

I normally don't say this but why don't you drop the series if you have this many (pointless) problems with it ? Unless you are simply here to go against the crowd that praises Oda and his storytelling ?

Sunk cost fallacy. And because I enjoyed the series quite much once, and hope to do so again.

@Vectorkov:

Whiskey and arguing are both fun but sometimes I get into trouble when the two are combined, especially on the weekend. Same for you?

I actually care a lot more when not under influence. No, it's being sober that's bad for me.

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@Doffy.:

I don't think it's anyone's or Oda's fault if you fail to understand something this simple . You are the one who is reading too much into a shonen manga and making it complicated for no reason other than to bitch about it in every thread .

And… case in point.

@just:

Please, how is that even remotely possible.

… High levels of empathy?

@Don:

Isn´t that just your opinion on great story telling?

It is. Never claimed to be some sort of universal truth, you know? Mostly because I don't believe that those exists when it comes to storytelling.

… Hmm, maybe I should IMHO at the beginning of every post? Might help...

But yes. In this particular thing, I differ from Oda significantly, because when I'm writing a story, I usually make it character driven, and the thought of sacrificing integrity of one character for the purpoeses of plot seems alien to me. Especially when it seems so blantant.

Call my personal bias on that one.

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@Daz:

And verus, easy on the use of phrases like 'big words'. Regardless of it being a pet peeve of yours, it reads as being condescending

I've been trying to cut it down, but it's honestly not easy.

Is it written to be condescending? No. Though the intent can be not as visible in written word as it would be in spoken one.

Call it a pet peeve, call it a bias. I will point out that it mostly steems from frustration with people.

I will try more.

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@RomanceDawn:

Dude what is your problem? You belittle me for using a "big word" like "logical" huh? Throwing that in there was obviously to poke fun at you(Darth) but gadzooks you are the worst. What is your agenda? You won't be satisfied until everyone sees through Oda's shortcomings and is as dissatisfied with the series as you are, am I correct? You just can't wait to put things down in hopes of showing people the light. You must have a heart wrenching flash back where tons of people got together at a convention and praised the high notes of One Piece, you said otherwise, they boo'd you out of there and it humiliated you like never before! From that day on you vowed to show One Piece fans that One Piece just ain't no good and Oda is no God! Seriously how close am I?

Never went to anime convention. Went to few fantasy ones, met some wonderful people, had great times.

My agenda? Well, my current agenda is to prove that the more criticaly inclined interpretation of the events is also viable. Not true, viable. Thus, I'm getting progressively more frustrated with people acting as if the "Good" interpretation (i.e. the one where Oda is a perfect writer that can do no wrong and every plot point ever made makes sense and is an example of great storytelling), is a tautology, and thus every person that thinks otherwise "Doesn't get it" or "Doesn't understand it's obvious" or "It's only logical".

And I hate it being presented in a way that clearly says "There is nothing wrong with the story, but something is obviously wrong with you".

@RomanceDawn:

You try so hard to discredit Oda's choices in the story you forget what is right half the time just to make sure he is wrong.

Not really. I've approved of quite a lot, if you recall. Only you always miss those, for some reason. And I do make sure.

If I wanted to discredit somebody, I would have went after Kishi, whose storytelling style I positively despise. And I would be applauded for that, mind you.

@RomanceDawn:

Forget your big words for one second, you over educated politician. Does it not make sense that Fuji's powers caused some sort of(for lack of a better word)"vacuum" that brought brought down the meteor? A gravitational force that more or less went right passed the Bird Cage and to the meteors? I didn't say the gravity couldn't work, especially if applied in a different way, I just said it would be weird if he tried to apply the same type of force on them for it to be efficient.

Sigh There is a difference. I am not arguing that it could not possibly been applied to Bird Cage while it pass through it, I'm arguing that both interpretations are valid.

And yes, when you make claims one is logical, it is a fair assumption you claim the other is not. Mostly because both being logical would create a contradiction.

@RomanceDawn:

I wasn't even going deeper into why Fuji didn't try to use something else on the cage or get more involved just yet. I'll leave that to you, it's your life's work after all right? Your previous life's work as well. In the chapter thread I stated that I think enough is enough, the cage is getting too small now for Fuji not to interfere. What ever the case he is helping locals out and letting things go as far as they possibly can. At this point I think it's too much but I'll wait until the end of the arc when all his motives are clear to give my final judgement.

On that we can agree, since the ending is closing in on us fast.

@RomanceDawn:

And thank you I will have a nice day. The whole week has been in fact wonderful. The high lights were a great chapter of One Piece that almost made me cry and getting hired to do stunts for some Halle Berry TV show I never heard of.

Well, my week was almost as good. Haven't had much luck with One Piece, but I found some other things I like, and academics been great lately, thank you.

@Sereques:

There is no evidence that supports it. Throughout the course of the arc, a lot of power levels have been assumed. Burgess is one of them.

Just in case you missed it, I was making a joke about the increase in succes of Blackbeard pirates when they are not shown on panel. No actually thinking that there is some special power that Burgess has.

… I thought it was pretty obvious.

@Owain:

Imagine Zoro being more important than Fuji. It's almost like he's one of the main characters.

Imagine the world where one does not sacrifice integrity of side characters to make the main ones look better.

A silly dream. That would, Gasp, Shock, a good storytelling idea, and we can't have that.

@YoiYoi:

Hopefully Burgess eats one of the DF he is supposedly carrying, giving him an upper hand against Sabo. (Extreme wishful thinking)

You know what would be awesome? If the fruits he was carrying were not smiles, but Doffy's secret stash of devil fruits that are more powerful than that, therefore providing an opportunity to give Burgess some nice and badass power-up.

@RomanceDawn:

It would be really weird if Fuji used gravity and it worked well on the bird cage at this point. Of course there could be some variation in the way he uses his powers like using gravity to pull it apart as opposed to pulling it down into the ground but Fuji has already more or less used gravity on the bird cage. The gravity force(?) just bypassed the cage and pulled the nearest thing down which happened to be in outer space. Granted Fuji was going for a meteor but it's only logical that the force of gravity didn't affect the cage right? lol.

… No it isn't? You have no way of proving that your supposition regarding Fuji's gravity is correct, because we don't know even what's his fruit is called, much less that it has rules so specific that it needs to follow.

Thus, no, it isn't logical. Please don't use the big words where they don't belong.

We cannot say that "Fujitora can't affect the birdcage." is logicaly true since the evidence is unsubstantial and precedence (i.e. Oda's actions in regards to other devil fruit powers) stands against it.

Therefore, you counter-argument does not abolish the possibility of statement "Fujitora can affect the birdcage, but won't for reasons", where reasons stands for anything from him having a grand plan we just don't understand yet to Oda sidelining him because he wants to shill Zoro some more, being true.

Have a nice day.

@Sereques:

Another one hoping Burgess have some innate "power" we are yet to see.

Burgess does have a power like that.

It's called not fighting on screen.

Though, I would not blame people for that belief. It's Oda's fault for overhyping Blackbeard Pirates.

@Vectorkov:

Sabo needs a humbling loss. Losing against Burgess because he underestimates him after their last encounter would be great.

Would be, yes.

It won't happen though. Cool elder brother character losing a fight in the arc he made his re-appearance? The possibility of that is about 0,2%.

Oda used up all of his plots that don't follow the Battle Shonen standarts on Marineford.

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@CrazyMerlyn:

Burgess is less Bland than Sabo?

Yes.

@CrazyMerlyn:

I think Burgess will succeed in taking away the Smiles. There won't really be much point in him being present in the arc otherwise.

At best, and even that isn't certain. In the similar fashion that his plot regarding Mera Mera went nowhere.

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@hosemisnuba:

I don't mean he will be like Kuma in the sense that he will crush everyone; what I do mean, however, is that he will generate tension after the main villain falls, and the main villain is a warlord, like the Kuma scenario.

As I said before, worry not, Sabo the Tension Killer is about to do what he does best.

Sorry if I come off as overly pessimistic, I simply don't see Oda as being willing to make Burgess a Kuma-like threat.

@hosemisnuba:

That said, if he loses to Sabo in their upcoming confrontation, I will be sorely disappointed.

He won't lose, but he won't win either.

@CrazyMerlyn:

FTFY .

Heh. You will find no approval for the so called Sabo in me.

I'm rooting for Burgess all the way. At the very least, he is less bland. And annoying.

And the fact that he is almost certain to be stopped whatever he decides to do makes me sad.

@hosemisnuba:

Calling it now, Burgess will act as the Kuma of the arc.

Considering he is a part of Blackbeard Pirates, and on panel, he will be lucky if he manages to escape with his little bag of loot, without getting humiliated in the process.

Which, considering Ace 2.0 is closing in on him, I find highly unlikely to pass.

@King:

We already saw that his abilities don't affect the Birdcage. If gravity strong enough to bring 5 meteors from outer space barely did anything to it (as well as the meteors), then I dunno why any other gravity attack would.

I guess it all depends whatever Zoro will actually manage to hold a birdcage for a bit.

Also, when did Fujitora bring five meteors, if I may ask? And what that has to do with his gravity powers stopping Birdcage from shrinking?

@Rangue:

Pathetic. You already admitted I was correct about the Nuremberg trials/nazi argument you made. Just admit I was correct about there being times when blood sports can be justified/moral.

I will, as soon as you will come up with actual example.

Which, considering you are so wonderfully avoiding the subject, will not come to pass soon.

B+ for skills in eristics though.

And now I'm off to actually enjoy myself, instead of talking to you.

@kcity:

Siberia or The Longest Journey. Which one to pick!? :happy:

Though choice, but I'd say The Longest Journey's better.

I'm thinking some RPG for change myself.

Anyways, reached 40 quotes on my posts regarding the topic, I think a break would be beneficial to me. Have a nice evening, I'm going to play me some video games, for safe and entertaining violence without negative moral connotations.

@King:

You're being a bit black and white, aren't you?

If I was, I would consider all violence evil, and I don't.

You want to argue that it understandable that Dressrosans were acting like that. And I say it does not matter for the actual discussion, since they are not morally clean either way.

Understand: I would not argue so vehemently if I thought there was any way they could be justified.

@King:

Why are you talking about "we"?

I was taking a perspective of your average person.

@King:

Just talk about the fucking comic book.

I did. And you found it in yourself to disagree with me, for some reason, since you are obviously not enjoying the discussion. You reap what you sow.

@King:

The Riku era still used fighting as entertainment. Props didn't really prevent people from getting hurt, but they most likely didn't die. I guess that's just culture.

We can approve of MMA, or Boxing, but not people killing each other outright.

So yes. Intention. Why people don't read what I write?