Werent devil fruits supposed to be rare?

Walker

I think it was said somewhere in the manga that Devil Fruits were like really rare. But what im getting to is that about everyone on the grandline has a pirate with a devil fruit power.

There's like 6 in BBQ works.
Belamy
Crocodile
Lufy
Chopper
Foxy
luuchi
probably all the other members of his group
probably most of the shickibukai
Ace
Aokiji
The guy who could eat anything
Eneru
Dragon
Buggy

Also probably alot of the pirates in Shanks crew have devil fruit powers.

So those are the only ones we have seen so far, and they have been on the grandline for about only 7 months.

So really how rare are the devil fruits? I mean for a would be pirate group (the ex-king dude) to have a devil fruit and only have been a pirate for a couple months.

CaptainAWB1

Where does it say that they've been on the Grand Line for 7 months? And we still don't know if Dragon ate a DF.

Buggy, Smoker, Alvida, and Luffy are the only DF users outside the Grand Line. Not that many.

As for DFs in the Grand Line, it's pretty hard to survive there. Many people with DFs have made it into the Grand Line and have found that their DF powers make it easy (or somewhat easy) to survive. I'm sure they've killed most of the people who don't have DFs, which is why most of them have DFs.

Walker

I remember someone posting a time line that said they have been on it for 7 months.

I think its pretty safe to say he has a devil fruit, the chances of that huge gust of wind and the strange color to it wasnt a natural occurence.

But again the point of my topic not why there are not alot of normal people, its that Devil Fruits are supposed to be rare. So killing the people without DF doesnt mean anything.

nguyen

They sell Devil fruits for 100,000 Beli a piece on ebay.

Ms. Suave Debonair

Think about how many people you have seen while watching/reading one piece and then look at how many DF users there are.

Also, alot of the users are captains of pirate crews, how do you become captain? by being strong! what usually happens when you eat a DF? you get stronger!
Let's not forget baroque works (who most of the DF users we've seen were in), the strongest assasins in the whole world now wouldn't it make sense that in order to become the strongest, you eat a devil fruit?

CaptainAWB1

And Oda mentioned that there's a whole island of DFs. Perhaps most of the DFs in the world grow on this island on a tree or whatever, fall off the branch and into the sea, and float around until somebody finds them.

I don't think Oda's really thought about how rare they are. Someone will just have to ask him in SBS.

Suteki

All of those people in the background don't have Devil Fruits.

warp

argee. And the thing on bw works members all having df's. If i were trying to take over a country i would want my guys to be strong. so crocidile just chose strong members with dfs

CaptainAWB1

As for whether or not Dragon can do those things via DF, you need to remember Miss Goldenweek. She has a DF-like power, but she didn't get it from a DF. I'm not saying Dragon didn't eat a DF, I'm saying we shouldn't jump to conclusion.

Ms. Suave Debonair

@CaptainAWB1:

As for whether or not Dragon can do those things via DF, you need to remember Miss Goldenweek. She has a DF-like power, but she didn't get it from a DF. I'm not saying Dragon didn't eat a DF, I'm saying we shouldn't jump to conclusion.

What the heck? Goldenweek didn't have a devil fruit ability she was just good at painting. How do you get a DF ability without eating a DF?!:wacko:

CaptainAWB1

I said DF-like power. It seemed like something from a DF. Yes, she was good at painting, but that doesn't give you the power to control someone's actions.

EDIT-
And something I didn't make clear. Goldenweek probably just has magic paint. Perhaps Dragon has something like that that lets him control wind. Perhaps he's been to Skypiea and got hold of some kind of dial.

Buccaneer

IIRC, there were about 30 users introduced so far. Not bad, considering there were like, a million fighters in Alabasta alone.

Walker

But most of those fighters have never evan left the island so you cant expect them to have had DF powers.

CaptainAWB1

How do you know that?

Ms. Suave Debonair

Chopper had never left Drum and he had a DF.

Roronoa Zolo

Well my big theory about the Devil Fruits is that in the Grand Line there is an island (maybe where One Piece is, I don't know) and on this island there are trees that bear fruit but only about one fruit every one hundred years. So these fruits fall off the trees and some of them get into the ocean and float out to sea where pirates find them, then those pirates are killed and robbed and the fruit get passed to another group of pirates and this goes on for a while until the fruit is finally found and eaten by somebody.

Walker

@CaptainAWB1:

How do you know that?

___________>;

They were on an island in the grand line where the weather changes constantly. Also comparing One piece to todays standards alot of people havent left their citys in todays life.

So I doubt most of them have left the island. The rebels were mostly the people who wanted to take over and change the way of life, so if they moved and came back why would they evan bother joining in?

So its only natural that most people wouldent have left their huge country that is in the middle of the ocean…

But idk what Oda thinks, maybe he did send all of them out sea once in their lives.

kryptonite

_> What happens when a devil fruit user dies? Is there a fruit to replace it?

Ms. Suave Debonair

@kryptonite:

_> What happens when a devil fruit user dies? Is there a fruit to replace it?

At this stage we don't know, we've only just found out what happens when someone tries to eat two DFs. Only Oda can tell.

DarkShinobi

I think it was said somewhere in the manga that Devil Fruits were like really rare. But what im getting to is that about everyone on the grandline has a pirate with a devil fruit power

Oda stated early on that Devil Fruit users are rare in the 4 oceans (East Blue, North Blue ect.), but he also said early on that the Grand Line is crawling with loads of Devil Fruit users. There's your answer.

Bloodfoot

Misinformation Patrol, rolling in.

Dragon has not been confirmed as a Devil Fruit user. And "strange color(ed) wind" isn't an indicator. It's just the way it was animated.

Miss Goldenweek's paint is ordinary. It's her talent that makes the Colors Trap work. They made a big deal out it, actually.

Zephos

Yhea, it was said that Grand Line is crawling with DF users. So your hullabaloo is pointless.

Also….....BBQ Works?:laugh:
What are they some kind of devious summer culinary syndicate?

Kinlap

@Zephos:

Yhea, it was said that Grand Line is crawling with DF users. So your hullabaloo is pointless.

Also….....BBQ Works?:laugh:
What are they some kind of devious summer culinary syndicate?

They steal grills, bbq sauce, and meat. No one stealing meat is a good person.

funkyfunkyusopp

lol BBQ…

yeah DF's were rare in the eart blkue, north blue etc etc but in the grandline its gunna be loads easyer to get hold of a DF.. I mean.. pirates.. are kinda like a huge black market?..

I think very few ppl eat a DF fruit KNOWING about it...

And the guy who can eat anything would be Wapol.

MonkeyD.Luffy_

By "beam dude" do u mean the great captain foxy??

Vanessa

Maybe all those people that have eaten Devil Fruits are from the different seas. When they figured out they have powers, they decided to enter the Grand Line. Hence why so many Devil Fruit users are in the Grand Line in the first place.

Walker

@MonkeyD.Luffy_:

By "beam dude" do u mean the great captain foxy??

Ahhhh, yes. Im really bad with names. heh.

Also….....BBQ Works?
What are they some kind of devious summer culinary syndicate?

Yes BBQ, Im not going to waste my time spelling something out that everyone can figure out from 3 letters. :rolleyes:

isinformation Patrol, rolling in.

Dragon has not been confirmed as a Devil Fruit user. And "strange color(ed) wind" isn't an indicator. It's just the way it was animated.

Right. Im pretty sure I already said in an earlier post that the occurence of the wind at the excact time of his appearence was to great to look past. So for the time being, until I learn more about him then he is a DF user. Because the wind came at the excact moment it was needed and he just happened to show up right then.

But who knows he could not be one.

If it was stated in the manga that the grandline is full of them then its settled. I cant remember every line in the manga so. heh. What arc was that stated in also?

funkyfunkyusopp

Ah Didn't see 'beam dude' in that list… I think he is on about Foxy... can't think of anyone else.

edit: good job I got lapped X3

Bloodfoot

@Walker:

Yes BBQ, Im not going to waste my time spelling something out that everyone can figure out from 3 letters. :rolleyes:

"BBQ" for "Baroque Works?" Painful.

Right. Im pretty sure I already said in an earlier post that the occurence of the wind at the excact time of his appearence was to great to look past. So for the time being, until I learn more about him then he is a DF user. Because the wind came at the excact moment it was needed and he just happened to show up right then.

A single coincidence proves nothing at all. And dramatic coincidences are a popular plot device in all kinds of stories. Go read any any classic gothic novel or shonen manga. They're full of it.

MonkeyD.Luffy_

where does the second b come from?

KamenRiderNeko

i woulda thought dragon had a devil fruit power like eneru and crocodile, but i guess that was his own power then?

also, i seriously doubt any of shanks crew has a DF power… they made such a big deal over the gum-gum fruit, so I didn't really assume any of them would...

me and my husband were talking about what if mihawk had one... i don't think he would, since i believe all of that is pure skill...with a giant freaking sword... but still... would that be possible?

Doskoi-Pandaman

so umm can you talk to the devil inside you when you gain a devil fruit ability? I think Jabuya was talking about the devils inside him would jump out of his body and kill him in the process
(Blueno corrects this of course) still is the devil inside the user sentient?

CaptainAWB1

@Walker:

There's like 6 in BBQ works.

That's BW!

Belamy
Crocodile
Lufy
Chopper
Foxy
luuchi
probably all the other members of his group

So far, we know Lucci, Blueno, Califa, Kaku, and Jyabura had DFs, but not Kumodori and Fukurou.

probably most of the shickibukai

So far, we only know that Donquixote Doflamingo has one.

Ace
Aokiji
The guy who could eat anything

Wapol

Eneru
Dragon
Buggy

You forgot Alvida.

Vanessa

There's also Dalton, Lasso, Pell, and others. Can't think of anyone else right now.

CaptainAWB1

But they're not pirates.

Ubiq

@Walker:

There's like 6 in BBQ works.

BBQ Works?

Anyway, there's about ten or so, but, as I recall, Crocodile made a point out of searching for Devil Fruit users for his organization.

Belamy
Crocodile

You technically already mentioned him.

luuchi
probably all the other members of his group

Kumadori and Fukurou definitely are not Devil Fruit users as they had never even seen them before. Spandam also made the point that the two that he gave Califa and Kaku were not easily obtained.

Eneru

Which, unless I missed someone, was the only new, confirmed Devil Fruit user that we saw introduced during Skypiea other than Pierre.

Dragon

Unconfirmed, though it's a distinct possibility that Dragon has the Wind Logia.

So those are the only ones we have seen so far, and they have been on the grandline for about only 7 months.

Well, we saw some of those that you listed at any rate as many of them have been unconfirmed, but a large portion of those that we know for a fact are Devil Fruit users have been introduced in batches. Fully half of them were either in the Baroque Works and Cipher Pol.

So really how rare are the devil fruits? I mean for a would be pirate group (the ex-king dude) to have a devil fruit and only have been a pirate for a couple months.

They're rare enough to command very high prices, but it seems that a person can manage to find one if they search hard enough like Alvida did.

Bounty1Berry

Also remember the Strawhats are in "rarefied air" among pirates, for their price, for their location, for their growing rep. Most people aren't gonna challenge them directly. For example, would Don Krieg or even Arlong be as macho around today's Luffy, worth 100 million and with a path of destruction behind, as with the no-name Luffy they encountered?

Furthermore, even if you do encounter regular people and they get belligerent, a fight that ends when Sanji whacks the attacker once with a ladle doesn't make for good storytelling. It's funny once as a gimmick.

Together, this means the only people who are likely to be shown charge the Strawhats are those with odd natural powers (Whitebeard) or Devil Fruits.

Malintex_Terek

Devil Fruits are rare because people continuously eat them.

~DON.

Honestly, if Devil Fruits sell for 100,000,000 berries, Luffy just barely met the value of the Gomu Gomu no Mi had he not eaten it.

Furthermore, the speculation on the time elapsed of the Strawhats isn't too good; people say they've been on the adventure for years, others months, and some say a month. My own view on the time elapsed follows omae's written view on the point; most of the arcs take place within two days; Morgan(one), Buggy(one), Krieg+Arlong(same day), Little Garden(two), Whisky Peak(two), Drum(two), Alabastia (two weeks?), Jaya (two days or so…remember the Log Post), Skypiea (couple days), then back to Longland Island (one day of events, followed by four or rest) then to Water Seven (several days). Hardly a year, even when counting in-between times. The Going Merry can't carry an unlimited amount of food, and since Luffy eats a lot, I can say that travel cannot take more than a couple days. Grand Line is nothing more than a huge current, afterall.

Also, just for a note, the current "date" of OP is 1522. I got that value from a log note of Norland's diary that was dated around 1122, so I added four hundred and ended up in Japan's Muromachi Period. Maybe Luffy should visit South Blue and beat up InuYasha. -.-

Ms. Suave Debonair

@CaptainAWB1:

So far, we only know that Donquixote Doflamingo has one.

It hasn't been confirmed that Doflamingo has one,

funkyfunkyusopp

@Bad-Beat:

It hasn't been confirmed that Doflamingo has one,

Well… I don't think a NON DF user other then maybe Jango with his hypnatisum [sp] could make people fight each other…. and do what he did to Bellamy and.. person with long hair.

I doub't many of the 7 sea gods have DF's. I reaaalllly doub't Jinbei [sp?] would have one.

kryptonite

The person with long hair is Saroquiss or something… XD

Ms. Suave Debonair

It could be strings :laugh: It probably is but you can't really try and win an arguement based on something that isn't proven yet, is all.

funkyfunkyusopp

haha don't worry kids.. he's only a puppet.

@kryptonite:

The person with long hair is Saroquiss or something… XD

I knew his name I just wasn't prepared to make a stab at his name spelling.. X3