To add more fun and discussion. I started this thread.
Funimation managed to convince Pop in the UK to air Dragon Ball, really really really edited but its still lots of fun. Would you like to see Funimation's One Piece on UK's Pop?
To add more fun and discussion. I started this thread.
Funimation managed to convince Pop in the UK to air Dragon Ball, really really really edited but its still lots of fun. Would you like to see Funimation's One Piece on UK's Pop?
If there's a chance, I would like that only so that OP could get more exposure in the UK.
Thank you! I was fearing the first post would be negative.
The biggest problem with 4Kids was that they changed lines, removed the original music, and skipped episodes.
As long as Pop doesn't have ridiculous standards, then an edited One Piece should be fine.
Would I like to see One Piece on Pop? Hells yeah. The edited version of Super really isn't much removed from watching the uncut dub, although One Piece has more realistic violence to contend with. Also, with Pop being on Freeview it seems to be the most-viewed UK kids channel outside of CBBC and CITV.
Is it likely? I guess that depends on how much of a success Pop considers Dragon Ball Super to have been and I suspect that it didn't do quite what they were looking for. It did reasonably well in its first week, but afterwards would be regularly beaten by the 90s Pokémon episodes that aired directly before it. It just came back into the top 15 most-watched programmes after 24 weekday episodes didn't make the list. They also cancelled the hour-long weekend repeats, which were the only repeats, after only two weeks. On the other hand, they seem to have extended their order past the initially reported 52 episodes and start double-billing "new" episodes from next Monday.
There's also the question of whether Funimation is recording a TV-safe dub of One Piece. Super has a family-friendly version of the dub that was clearly recorded at the same time but never aired in the US (and doesn't seem to have been actually edited by Funimation - only the dialogue is different). Was this this something that Funi recorded "just in case" and never used? Did Toei insist on it so that they had a sellable version for other English markets? Does that mean that such a thing exists for One Piece? Cartoon Network Australia had to switch from "Zolo" to "Zoro" in 2008. Having to cut/bleep swearing, or get Funi to-record a bunch of lines, might be a deal-breaker.
And if this ever did happen, where would they start? The East Blue looks dated and has been out on home video for years, but would they start with the modern-looking episodes (Davy Back) or try to start ahead of the DVDs with Fishman Island?
Would I like to see One Piece on Pop? Hells yeah. The edited version of Super really isn't much removed from watching the uncut dub, although One Piece has more realistic violence to contend with. Also, with Pop being on Freeview it seems to be the most-viewed UK kids channel outside of CBBC and CITV.
Is it likely? I guess that depends on how much of a success Pop considers Dragon Ball Super to have been and I suspect that it didn't do quite what they were looking for. It did reasonably well in its first week, but afterwards would be regularly beaten by the 90s Pokémon episodes that aired directly before it. It just came back into the top 15 most-watched programmes after 24 weekday episodes didn't make the list. They also cancelled the hour-long weekend repeats, which were the only repeats, after only two weeks. On the other hand, they seem to have extended their order past the initially reported 52 episodes and start double-billing "new" episodes from next Monday.
There's also the question of whether Funimation is recording a TV-safe dub of One Piece. Super has a family-friendly version of the dub that was clearly recorded at the same time but never aired in the US (and doesn't seem to have been actually edited by Funimation - only the dialogue is different). Was this this something that Funi recorded "just in case" and never used? Did Toei insist on it so that they had a sellable version for other English markets? Does that mean that such a thing exists for One Piece? Cartoon Network Australia had to switch from "Zolo" to "Zoro" in 2008. Having to cut/bleep swearing, or get Funi to-record a bunch of lines, might be a deal-breaker.
And if this ever did happen, where would they start? The East Blue looks dated and has been out on home video for years, but would they start with the modern-looking episodes (Davy Back) or try to start ahead of the DVDs with Fishman Island?
I love you Lost Time Lord but you contradicted yourself… the 90's Pokemon Anime beats Dragon Ball Super...yet One Piece is too dated? lol. I love you and I'm trying to say this most kindly.
The 90's Pokemon Anime beats Dragon Ball Super…yet One Piece is too dated?
Pokémon isn't in the same situation though, because new episodes of that are airing on a rival channel and Pop's just re-running the back catalogue (albeit they're calling Galactic Battles "new" when Wikipedia tells me it first aired in 2008). If they aired One Piece, they'd be aiming at an audience that has never heard of the franchise before and IMO it would make the most sense to start with aesthetically modern stuff and then go back if the demand's there.
But Dragon Ball Kai's success on Pop Max (then Kix) didn't lead to One Piece getting picked up, so it still seems very unlikely.
Pokémon isn't in the same situation though, because new episodes of that are airing on a rival channel and Pop's just re-running the back catalogue (albeit they're calling Galactic Battles "new" when Wikipedia tells me it first aired in 2008). If they aired One Piece, they'd be aiming at an audience that has never heard of the franchise before and IMO it would make the most sense to start with aesthetically modern stuff and then go back if the demand's there.
But Dragon Ball Kai's success on Pop Max (then Kix) didn't lead to One Piece getting picked up, so it still seems very unlikely.
Also back when Kix aired Kai, Sony wasnt the owner of Funimation.
Point taken, but I still think it would best to start from the beginning. For various reasons but not limited to…
-The whole point of an airing would be to introduce people gently into the franchise. Toonami was stupid to think they could air it from episode 200-whatever and still get viewers.
-The 5 episodes per week is perfect to get the ball rolling from the beggining.
-The show doesnt look all that dated if it airs from the beggining. Like Mark Evanier said about Scooby Doo, One Piece never had the best animation. Not even in its best years.
-The beggining of the show is much less violent and dark than it would be later on. If it starts with the later arcs there would be much more trouble.
Sony has a relationship with both Funi and Toei. Pretty Cure aired on Pop Girl which was also a Sony channel. I know its a really small chance that is almost non existent in fact but I would love to see it there and its fun to discuss even if it doesnt happen.
Pop reached a huge landmark with 232,000 viewers! That's as much as Dragon Ball had in the golden era in the UK. Sorry for the double post but I had to mention it.
I know I'm bumping an old thread, but there has been a couple of minor updates.
@LostTimeLord said in Could Sony Air One Piece on Pop?:
Cartoon Network Australia had to switch from "Zolo" to "Zoro" in 2008. Having to cut/bleep swearing, or get Funi to-record a bunch of lines, might be a deal-breaker.
This actually ended up happening with DB Super on Pop; they received the uncut Toonami version and simply cut swearing, with "Hercule" reverting to "Mr Satan". Still not sure if Pop could deal with bleeding injuries and Sanji's cigarettes in a hypothetical One Piece broadcast, though.
More promisingly, DB Super was added to BBC iPlayer a few weeks ago under the CBBC brand (using Pop's version with further cuts). So there is now a precedent for Britain's biggest broadcaster being interested in a Shonen Jump anime from Toei/FunimationCrunchyroll.
@LostTimeLord Not to get even more off-topic here (to be honest it'd be better suited for Kanzenshuu, but I'd have to bump an equally ancient thread there as well lol), but there's actually an update on that, too. ABC ME in Australia recently started airing episodes 53+ of Super, and it appears that Funi did in fact do edited lines for those episodes. So why Pop didn't receive these materials and had to do their own butcher job themselves, who knows?
Getting back on topic though, I'd say OP's chances of getting on kids TV abroad are probably rather slim, but I'd say definitely possible on channels aimed at teen/adult demographics (see OP's return on Adult Swim and
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NEW INFO GUYS! In an interview with a Pop excutive, it was said that Pop IS INDEED into anime and want to air some but they want anime that their 8-16 audience will love... but it needs to be a series that wont require too much editing.
I think that if they start from the beggining the little kids will love One Piece and that is the era with the least amount of objectionable material.
And remember that Pop once scored 250k viewers. That is more than what One Piece gets ON TOONAMI USA.