That's the correct response to a TLC rant. Dude can't seem to stand when people like things he doesn't (or dislike things he likes)
I wouldn't go that far. The TLC Rant Clock sometimes points at the right hour. Rarely, but it does.
Hiatus x Hiatus III: Goodnight, Sweet Princes
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Conspiracy Theory Time:
HxH kept going on Hiatus because Togashi was waiting for Miura. The new continent in HxH is actually just the Fairy Island in Berserk and the authors wanted their characters to arrive at the same time.All is missing is Inoue to return from Hiatus, so the Big 3 Hiatus Trio are back to work.
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All i can think of right now is that baby prince that'll probably get killed and the pages of disgust/defending statements that will follow.
Plot twist: Innocent little baby prince is actually the most blood thirsty, deadly, and evil one of the bunch.
@ Goats: Hear, hear.
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So, what, we're supposed to come up with new responses to the same thing happening? That's a weird complaint to levy against folks. Especially when "complain about people responding the same way" is about as trite of a response.
I don't think your opinion here is worth much, because it mostly sounds like you're just trying to be edgy. There's no real reason to call it terrible, since even at its worst points, it is never that bad (except the lazy art, which you don't address). You make it sound like Fairy Tail or something, but we've never gotten two meaningless timeskips in a row, or blatant misogyny and fanservice that takes up entire chapters. Togashi's never nuked his story's premise or the development of his characters for cheap entertainment. He's never retconned entire characters or ideas on repeated whims. The worst things his story has ever done is, what, do some late game worldbuilding? Used a couple admittedly annoying deus ex machinas? Did exposition a little poorly? Even some of my favorite series have pulled some of that shit, and that doesn't make it good, but it's really slim pickings from the salt mine. Especially for a series that, otherwise, has presented a lot of interesting ideas and characters.
I won't say there isn't fat or rot here and there, but if you're going to treat anything less than the most peerless fine arts as trash, then you probably shouldn't be reading Shonen Jump.
Can you point out why Hxh is good? I mean everything TLC said, along with the HXH world Gantz-level dark with very little to non existent human-empathy, just seems pretty accurate, at least for me. Maybe i am approaching the series completely wrong, and need to re-read it from the beginning from a different angel, but i always wanted to understand what really made the series stand out. I mean is it thematic ideas, characters, battles, story, battle-concepts etc….. that makes it stand out?
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I don't get the "little empathy" argument. Gon is a very emotionally intelligent character and empathizes well with almost everyone he meets. The Killua-Gon friendship is also, I think, a nice little gem.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think that the story being sometimes cartoonishly grim means that there is no human element to it.
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I don't get the "little empathy" argument. Gon is a very emotionally intelligent character and empathizes well with almost everyone he meets. The Killua-Gon friendship is also, I think, a nice little gem.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think that the story being sometimes cartoonishly grim means that there is no human element to it.
Except when he brutally murders someone. I find it very very hard to connect to his character for that reason alone.
I remember Daz pointing out the examples of this from the very early on like few years ago.
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List Gon's victims. And Killua's. They didn't kill anybody on greed island and actually befriended the ants that weren't hellbent in eating them.
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What, you mean with Pitou? I think it seemed justified… The ants were shown to understand the morality of their actions, so I think Pitou killing Gon's mentor, friend, and role model, then making a corpse puppet out of him, then lying about being able to bring him back to life were all pretty deplorable moves, too. And it was clear that Pitou was going to fight Gon to the death (even the afterlife?), anyway, since (s)he was so dedicated to the king. Yada yada, self defense.
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Yea but it's the general lack of morals that ultimately stop me from connecting with Gon or Killua.
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I never got the feeling that either Gon or Killua were even slightly morally bankrupt.
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Well Hxhverse in general has that feeling which is pretty apparent in the first arc with all the killing/dying and nobody really displaying normal human emotions. The narrative itself doesn't address those lack of morals so it's not like the story explores these issues , unless this is supposed to be a satire or something where you aren't supposed to take anything at the face value.
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On the contrary, I actually really enjoy the fact that all of the characters seem so damaged and uniquely challenged. I find it makes it easier to relate to them. To say that none of them ever show a believable human emotion is completely wrong, in my opinion. Even Gon seems like he is incredibly remorseful for having to kill Pitou when Killua finds him. To me, anyway.
Case in point, my least favorite character by far is Ging. Someone so perfect feels very out of place in this manga.
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The only two aspects of Hunter that displeases me is how Meryem was so OP and how Killua's Nen, even though awesome, have to follow a stupid line of (un)conventional rules.
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So, what, we're supposed to come up with new responses to the same thing happening? That's a weird complaint to levy against folks. Especially when "complain about people responding the same way" is about as trite of a response.
I'm not complaining against anyone. I'm simply pointing out the cycle of things. Maybe help anyone who gets hopeful that this will finally be the time that Togashi sticks to the manga to get some perspective but mostly I'm just amused at how history continues to repeat itself.
I don't think your opinion here is worth much, because it mostly sounds like you're just trying to be edgy. There's no real reason to call it terrible, since even at its worst points, it is never that bad (except the lazy art, which you don't address). You make it sound like Fairy Tail or something, but we've never gotten two meaningless timeskips in a row, or blatant misogyny and fanservice that takes up entire chapters. Togashi's never nuked his story's premise or the development of his characters for cheap entertainment. He's never retconned entire characters or ideas on repeated whims. The worst things his story has ever done is, what, do some late game worldbuilding? Used a couple admittedly annoying deus ex machinas? Did exposition a little poorly? Even some of my favorite series have pulled some of that shit, and that doesn't make it good, but it's really slim pickings from the salt mine. Especially for a series that, otherwise, has presented a lot of interesting ideas and characters.
I won't say there isn't fat or rot here and there, but if you're going to treat anything less than the most peerless fine arts as trash, then you probably shouldn't be reading Shonen Jump.
Nope, this is how I honestly feel, I'm not being a hipster poser hating on something because it's popular. Your argument basically boils down to well it's not as bad as the most shit of the shit but that's still shit. And for what it's worth, I actually do get a modicum more entertainment from say Fairy Tail because it at least it doesn't feel as much as a chore to read most times. And at least Fairy Tail has some degree of self-awareness in its cheesiness while HxH thinks it's some form of high art. I don't want to throw around the word pretentious but I still remember nuclear champagne or Togashi anticlimatically ending his arc with a stupid asspull. Twice in a row. Or completely mishandling and changing themes in an arc midway. Or characters with a ton of build up that ended up being worthless or dying off screen. Or nonsensical battles between an octopus and a shrimp that no one cared about or going back to the village of that one ant girl that no one gave a shit about. Or bringing back Kaitou back in the body of a teenage girl after killing him off twice all tied together with the random nonsensical ramblings of a Koala ant no one gave a shit about while Gon steps in to say hi and bye completely flushing down the drain like two years worth of content in building up Gon's character. Never nuked his story or character's development? Never retconned characters or ideas on a whim? Did you read the last two to three arcs, he did nothing but that! The writing is differently bad from Fairy Tail but it's still bad. I honestly see no point in comparing the two since it's apples and oranges and I hate both series but you randomly brought up the comparison. Suffice it to say this series has its fair share of super low lows that would make Fairy Tail blush.
Treating it on its own merits, it's bad because aside from chapters being illegible amounts of text opposed to art, Togashi throws too many ideas into the pot without tying it together coherently. Sure there are interesting ideas and concepts, you throw enough shit at the wall, something will stick. It means nothing if you can't gel it all together. And that's not even mentioning the tonal inconsistencies, the inappropriateness for a shonen, the lack of empathic protagonist, the bad art (thanks for reminding me but I was willing to give it some leeway there given the last batch had better art than usual) and the constant, incessant exposition in what should be a VISUAL medium. Really? HxH is peerless fine art? Just from the current Jump Line Up, I can list far superior series that have far better art, story telling, handling of themes, characters etc.
But this is all shit I've said a dozen times before, all part of the great cycle I pointed out before, I honestly shouldn't even have replied to your post, it'll just lead to the same shit which I try to avoid, namely people jumping on the bandwagon and just calling me a hater or a ranter or I just hate people having fun (like I'm not entitled to my own opinion) or whatever. And it'll lead to people saying I do this all the time (when I really don't if you count how much I actually post per month). And it'll just lead to rant wars and people jumping on band wagons and mods stepping in and bad blood and like I said this is all par for the course for this thread, this series just brings out the worst tendencies in people and I prefer to avoid all that. I'll just stick to being an observer from this point, thank you very much.
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I agree with Ben. Morals are certainly present in the series with Gon and Killua among others.
Examples: Gon and Killua willingly go with Pakunoda when they could escape so that Kurapika wouldn't have to kill anyone. The less hatred Kurapika felt the better in their opinion. Kurapika throughout that arc realizes that some of the spiders do have morals as well, in Pakunoda's willingness to make a trade. Kurapika himself battles between the desire for revenge and his friends.
In Greed Island Biscuit, Killua and Gon decide to use Breath of Archangel on the Bombers after the fight. They didn't want to hurt anyone over the game, just to enjoy it and win properly.
Killua as a character wants to distance himself from his family business precisely because he doesn't want to kill anymore. He wanted to find a better reason to live (which he did in Alluka). Now he wants to protect him/her.
I could go on, but the point is that people certainly display normal human emotions. Even Chrollo, when asked why he does what he does, pondered introspectively about who he really was.
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Which are the tonal inconsistencies that TLC is pointing out. Character's morality isn't consistent and both the very first arc and Greed Island are huge examples of inconsistent morality for Gon's character.
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Which are the tonal inconsistencies that TLC is pointing out. Character's morality isn't consistent and both the very first arc and Greed Island are huge examples of inconsistent morality for Gon's character.
TLC talked about theme changes and chaotic story ideas.
My comment is directed at the morality you talked of which isn't necessarily relevant to that.
What evidence do you have for your argument that morality is inconsistent, and your original argument the human empathy is "non-existent"?
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My God, it's as if characters are multidimensional facets who sometimes may go astray from their principles because that's what actual people do!
As for TLC, I mean, as he's said, the argument's come around and around, so just let him be. No need to retread old ground when all it does is just lead to a neverending circular argument. If you find the story as riveting as I do, though, just keep on jamming to it.
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Yeah! New HxH!
So are we going to have a new prediction poll in the thread for how many chapters everyone think we will get?
Because i´m going big with 20 at least.
HEROMAN… ATTACK!!
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Yeah! New HxH!
So are we going to have a new prediction poll in the thread for how many chapters everyone think we will get?
Because i´m going big with 20 at least.Polls are tricky business because once one is made, it's nigh impossible to make another one without making another thread.
And I don't intend on making a new thread every time HxH comes in and out of our lives like an on-again-off-again relationship with a noncommital ex
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Yay! Hunter x Hunter is back! As are the super long debates lol. I really missed this series.
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@Kaizou:
I bet either 11 or 21 chapters.
Think there's any chance of HxH being monthly release this time around? I mean we know that Boruto is monthly series so it wouldn't be too strange to have another monthly one… though they probably would have said something already if that were the case with HxH.
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Think there's any chance of HxH being monthly release this time around? I mean we know that Boruto is monthly series so it wouldn't be too strange to have another monthly one… though they probably would have said something already if that were the case with HxH.
I don't think the weekly schedule is an issue. The main problem is that Togashi's being too busy playing video gram rather than being professional.
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There will be six chapters in 2016. And they will be glorious.
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This better not be 2 fucking movie chapters again…
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Could we please stop making the stupid "he's too lazy and playing video games" jokes. It's old, its tired, and even after a long break, its not somehow funny again two years later. Neither are the bets on how long he'll last.
We've been given an official explanation of back problems. Even if we don't believe it, (and I don't personally) it is still an official and legitimate medical excuse.
The thread title is back to Hiatus X Hiatus, because that's the joke and we all know it,(and was only changed back to Hunter Hunter for archive purposes) but for cripes sake, the series is announced as coming back and in one day we've gotten six pages of the exact same joke, over a hundred posts.
I made my token joke on the subject too, I'm just as guilty, but it really should have been done after a couple hours rather than going all day. Just regurgitating the joke that was old last time, and the time before that.There's a reason the thread gets closed between releases, because it's tired and stale. If you absolutely must make a joke or complaint about the inevitable breaks to come, can you at least find a creative and fresh way to do it that hasn't already been done for years? Or just wait till it actually happens? If everyone is right it'll be in just a few weeks, can you save your gloating on this particular subject till then?
I'm not even sure WHY people are so enthused to guess how short a run it will be. It's the track record sure, but if you like the series at all, don't you want it to be as much as possible? TO just enjoy it? If you're only here to sarcastically and spitefully go "Ha ha, this established multi-million selling author can't work like he did when he was 20 now that he's 50!" then we really don't need that at length.
He's not as productive as his peers, we all know that. ANd his storytelling style isn't for everyone, we know that too. His longest run since he started having breaks has been 30 chapters, but its mostly been less than 20. So lets just expect less than 20 and move on to actually discussing the story, rather than how soon the creator will suffer terrible hospital visit worthy back pain.
He's been having breaks since 2006. TEN YEARS. The jokes about it are not funny anymore.
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Hear, hear, Roberto.
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I say we get 5-7 more chapters of people talking about stuff. What stuff? Well duh, stuff, of course!
Then it ends.
kouch are you going to make more parody HxH synopses.
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Well I checked back to see how people were reacting hoping it was a bit less shitty. It might be a little, thanks Robby.
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Can someone drop a digest I don't think I want to reread again this time.
Like what where the most interesting theories/tidbits right before it went on break. I think the only one I remember is Ai being the same as Nanika. -
Can someone drop a digest I don't think I want to reread again this time.
We got a super in-depth (with lots of internal monologue) fight between a side-character that Gon met mid-arc and an underling of an underling of a villain. A super evolved walking molusc vs a bald rat with a missing arm, or something like that. It went on for 3 or 4 chapters.
Then, Gon faced said villain, mid fight we had a fade to black, and then we switched to Leorio and Killua waking up Gon. He was knocked out while fighting the villain, 5 days had passed and everything had already been solved. They vaguely explained what had happened to Gon.
Then we got an in-depth chapter about the new life that the evolved walking molusc led from now on, full of internal monologue too, of course.
:ninja: .
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People are better off just accepting that it won't ever be finished and enjoying whatever they get.
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Can someone drop a digest I don't think I want to reread again this time.
Like what where the most interesting theories/tidbits right before it went on break. I think the only one I remember is Ai being the same as Nanika.You should check out HunterxHunter 2011 anime instead, its very high quality and very enjoyable.
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You should check out HunterxHunter 2011 anime instead, its very high quality and very enjoyable.
That makes very little sense to me for one it's 1000 times the time commitment than rereading the series and for the fact that I've already watched it when it came out.
It also doesn't help very much as a digest when it doesn't even animate the few chapters with quite a bit of important stuff happening that sets up for the stuff when it continues now. Not to mention how is watching ~150x24min of video in any shape or form a digest anyway.
I dunno given that answer maybe it wasn't clear what I was hoping for.
I'll try to clarify.I was asking if someone had like a small summary of most important events or questions that are most relevant right now when it starts up again. Like from memory I would classify the whole king election competition under that.
Or for example I don't remember a lot on the organizations behind the whole voyage endeavor. Little bits like Freecs and the journal thing.And more importantly interesting theories if there are any because if you're active in the OP forums it's very time consuming to find the gems that have interesting opinions and theories(God I sometimes wish there was a reddit like upvote feature which lets you filter for most upvoted post or something).
Like I only found Greg's OP column by chance recently which has pretty interesting stuff.
I don't really want to read through the last 20 pages of HxH discussion when there's a chance I won't even find anything.
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I kinda agree the jokes about Togashi going to hiatus are getting old, when the likes of Miura or Inoue dont get mocked that much when they go to hiatus.
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Saiyu is in cahoots with Beyond's group to free him once they reach DC, currently only Kurapika and Mizaistom know about that.
The Kakin succession will and all out battle royale between the 14 princes, with their newly acquired nen beasts, and their bodyguards.
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I kinda agree the jokes about Togashi going to hiatus are getting old, when the likes of Miura or Inoue dont get mocked that much when they go to hiatus.
Thats because their art quality holds up and its clear in Muira's case he's actually still working full time during the "breaks", the level of his art just makes it impossible to work on a magazine's schedule. In Inou tends to have a decent ammount of output when he comes back from his breaks, its seems like he mostly realy is concentrating on figuring out the story.
If they ever did a bunch of scribble chapters that looked like they were done in 10 minutes, it'd get thrown at them too.
(People still complan about the breaks, but they don't mock them for it.)
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Inoue is also busy juggling between two fantastic series unlike Togashi.
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I kinda agree the jokes about Togashi going to hiatus are getting old, when the likes of Miura or Inoue dont get mocked that much when they go to hiatus.
I don't know about Inoue, but I've seen Miura get jokes about Idolmaster and boats.
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boats.
uhh, what does this part mean? never mind, found out about the IRL time they were on the boat.
And I came here to check if this thread was unlocked, although the announcement's only been out for 4 hours on twitter… but that is probably a long time these days.
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Ohhh, didn't know. Well, after the Chimeras, the series got quite boring so i expect Gon's granpa to give me some entertain without copying Toriko.
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I kinda agree the jokes about Togashi going to hiatus are getting old, when the likes of Miura or Inoue dont get mocked that much when they go to hiatus.
I've seen plenty of Miura jokes, it just seems that the Berserk fans actually try to be somewhat witty and original with them
then again I wasn't reading Berserk when the Idolm@aster jokes were at an all time high so I could easily be wrongAnd like it was said above Inoue doesn't get jokes because of dat art quality+juggling multiple series+his works aren't super popular in the west anyway so no influx of impatient and fickle teenagers.
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@Shobu:
Ohhh, didn't know. Well, after the Chimeras, the series got quite boring so i expect Gon's granpa to give me some entertain without copying Toriko.
Gons Granpa? We've heard nothing of Gings father, Don would be so far removed from Gon it would be foolish, like 15 generations.
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Gons Granpa? We've heard nothing of Gings father, Don would be so far removed from Gon it would be foolish, like 15 generations.
He will be the next closest thing.
If the relationship won't play any part in the story (if it ever gets there), there was no point in making him Gon's ancestor. He could have been any random dude.
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He will be the next closest thing.
If the relationship won't play any part in the story (if it ever gets there), there was no point in making him Gon's ancestor. He could have been any random dude.
It will be the exact thing as Ging meeting him, not just Gon. Obviously it has a large part of the story (why Gon/Ging are the monsters they are), but I highly doubt there will be any real relationship.
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Damn I always wanted to start reading Hunter x Hunter from chapter 1 the last month… And now this happens...
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Oh god damn it, I remember that HxH was the reason that I finaly got to english WSJ, because Mangastream did a terrible job with the translations. HxH is too complex for fast scans.
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Hunter x Hunter will return April 18th, so not as early as some of us thought.
