I bet they will stumble upon a big wall or something.
Dr. Stone
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Also, he's speaking in <english>, as expected. Who speaks it in the cast? Senku, Gen, Tsukasa and Ukyo for sure. The Ishigami tribe might be able to pick up a few words since they speak japanese with a tiny bit of english. Language could be used for some interesting plot points.</english>
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You'd think if someone woke up alone in the world the last thing they'd do is kill fellow humans. Maybe they took a wrong turn and ended up in Texas.
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This is a person who knows how to make a gun and tap radio communications, and has been growing corn for fuel for a while now. If they have radio, they know about the why Man. Either scared of them or an apocalyptic minion.
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Nothing like a gunshot greeting when landing in America. lol
I think there’s a chance of some in America that survived the petrification while hiding in those nuclear bunkers but then again I read some theories about the petrifaction beam starting from the core of the Earth….It might be another guy like Senku who was lucky enough to be near nitric acid. I’m so invested in this series. -
While the high signs of corn point to someone being alive for a while, probably cross generational, another incest village on LA is less likely than another Lucky scientist who is smart enough to realize that the formula requires a ton of alcohol, but never got platinum. It is shit corn after all.
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Nothing like a gunshot greeting when landing in America. lol
I think there’s a chance of some in America that survived the petrification while hiding in those nuclear bunkers but then again I read some theories about the petrifaction beam starting from the core of the Earth….It might be another guy like Senku who was lucky enough to be near nitric acid. I’m so invested in this series.The petrification beam went through the earth. Why man tried to do the same trough the speaker when he said the earth's diameter as the distance.
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What is more likely:
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Someone was in the same kind of conditions than Senku, that he himsef didn't make any special note of being super unique, that math might come this chapter
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One specific mundane (real world or otherwise) metal is capable of blocking the radiation that went throught the earth, that metal was used to make a bunker, with a population of at least 3 male and 3 female adults, who managed to do mostly nothing with the intact resources of Los Angeles, managed to not use internet to ask for help, as the ISS crew was monitoring earth, but got to enough descendants to create another village
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Why man knows how to break people out of the stone and set them out.
Granted, I'm fully expecting 3 to happen eventually, specially in south america where the event happened and why man might have colaborators around, but we have been dealing with the survivors of petrification's descendants for quite a while, it feels more organic to deal with something different now.
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After wiki-ing until 3am, there is the missing astronauts who might have survived, The rusian couple who went out at sea for medicine. Again, my money is on bat guano.
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The guy is speaking english, so I don't think he's a descendant of the russian couple. I'm leaning on "the guy (and maybe some others) got depetrified by chance", at least until something suggests otherwise.
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And the civilization reborn out of 6 astronauts, of witch only one was japanesse, decided to let their offsprings learn japanesse instead of any of the languages that they could have known.
I can't see that as hard evidence, I agree that it is definitelly not them, unless something really unexpected happened, as we are already in "so much incest" territory with 6 progenitors, but rounding them down to one couple seems impossible.
But it is weird to make the point "these two people randomly went out to the sea over 3 thousand years ago" after just checking off Byakuya and the other 3 deaths in a quick fashion, and it being impossible for REI to know anything about them at that point because the power plants were already dead at that time.
Kinda want to read this whole manga again..
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Yep, there's more people. Actually, I'm guessing that there may be multiple groups of people in the US, and they continuosly fight each other for resources and stuff, which could be why the americans aren't surpised by new people and just attack then on sight. In a way, is the scenario that Senku avoided by not reviving too much people for so long.
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Rivers and Bat caves, wining combination.
Google said that nitric acid actually isn't found in nature, so I don't know what they are getting doused on.
Decided to read demon slayer first, as I was more interested on a new series than a re-read right now, but I'll get to Dr. Stone and try to pinpoint how much time they were on the cave before breaking out, but in the first three chapters Senku made it sound like HE decided to break out in spring, so the effect was mostly ready by then. I semeed to remember the flashback that Senku moved Taiju into the cave, but now I'm not certain, besides that just a few months shouldn't be as important.
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It's all coming together…A tad.
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Still not sure what Team Xeno's deal with trying to kill humans or what exactly he wants to do with them after killing Dr. Taiju. These chapters have been good but right now I feel like the antagonists are being evil for evil's sake. There better be a good reason for all this.
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Considering that Senku knows him, a reason will come up next chapter.
But essentially is the same objective as the kingdom of science “this faction is dangerous because they outnumber us/attacked us we need to kill/capture their leader in order to take their people/corn”
Senku only went conquest mode after being attacked, but the perception of danger would be a simple motive.
Also, Xeno has radio, Xeno heard both the why statement and the “do something to a sphere the size of the earth”, and suddenly a boat? I’d be scared too.
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I fear that this studen-teacher relationship allows for too many shonen clichés. Specifically, that even if after some time both discover the other's identity, they'll continue to fight seriously (i.e. to the death in case of Xeno) because of manly honor or whatever. Also variations like Senku not revealing himself (in case Xeno wouldn't hurt Senku) for his own sense of pride. Basically characters prolonguing a conflict with honor/pride/respect as an excuse.
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Yeah, This is Senku, he fights dirty, he fights to maximize survival, he doesn't risk the lives of others if he can help it, meaningless honor has no place in science.
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one of those chapters that reminds me what I miss in One Piece
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https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1007502 I'm already feeling bad for Luna's inevitable breakup with Senku.
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It's good that they have a doctor (kinda) now, but I'm over Luna already. She's just the I'm-In-Love-With-the-Main-Character character.
But, I love seeing Chrome step up as a scientist.
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Considering this is Senku of all main characters, Luna's crush will end once Senku is fully operational again.
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Kohaku ain't gonna be pleased with this.
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Binge caught up this manga in two days and I have to say the writing is consistently great.
I'm most likely going to let stone sit for a couple of months or a year before bringing again because reading it in bulk is the most thrill I've ever had reading a manga in a very long time. -
Dr. Stone found a smart way to deal with having too many characters unlike The Promised Neverland that was hurt by the bloat.
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Its funnier when you realize both have two people working on it which means both writers didn't need to bother straining their effort in drawing.
Now, no manga would top Neverland's first stellar arc but as a whole Dr Stone easily wins against everything else.
I guess part time majoring in physics and having written a legendary sports manga helps.Latest chapter:
You would think dealing with a technologically advanced enemy is more difficult than a tribe run by an old guy but guess not.
I was expecting Stanley, when he made an appearance to carry and fix the rushed pacing of the second half of this arc but guess not.
Maybe the deliberate Yuzuriha and Taiju split was done on purpose and America would get invaded or something down the road, I don't know.
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Yeah, this ending was so fast that I think I have to reread the last 3 chapters to properly understand the whole thing. I have been kind of just skimming through the pages but this has been a bit too complex for this kind of reading. Everything since the ending stages of the dogfight has been just boom boom boom, over. Don't really know what to make of it right now!
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I really wonder what's the rush.. are they very eager to introduce a new villain?
This could have easily been longer than what it was.
So many things were flash forwarded and not explained very well too.
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El Dorado is actually the petrifaction city.
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I really wonder what they are going to find. This format kills my memory, but what was the cause of the rain of petrification devices? Was it a misterious rain or just invaders? The Why Man tried to petrify earth with the device, was that directed at the big one in the Amazon, or any of the dinky little ones can envelop the whole planet? With how easy it got discharged I really doubt it.
Thing is that while they barely beat Zeno, what can the series beat him in intensity, but leave still room for the math, rubber and alluminum cities to be hard as well?
Zeno and Senku were the earliest possible human revival by their own efforts, as in the mental activity of insane counting allowed them to wake up early, the astronauts were the only ones spared by the beam by virtue of being in space, so for challenges we have:
- The actual Medusa inventor/Why Man
- People who got petrified but were in an ideal area where they could break free
- People who were very lucky and there was an "special super alloy that for sure blocked the petrification beam"
After the astronauts, who "solved" incest with 3 men and 3 women, anything more than that is just gravy.
The issue with the later two, they would have to be hidden enough to not be found by the petrification faction, considering they found some folks in a dingy island, they would need to be super hidden to be safe.
And one of them is Australia, I fully expect the land itself to be the barrier for that one, if not South America itself, Xeno, Senku and Luna don't seem to be equiped to deal with jungle virus that a bunch of first worlders, and a genetically issolated incest tribe could be exposed. The revived could have been vaccinated enough for some of the things that the amazon can throw at them, and without a big enough human population, excluding our current real world predicament, the barrier of animal -> human is not trivial to jump.
The list of the spinned off crew is, per CCC's twitter: Senku, Kohaku, Ryusui, Francois, Chrome, Taiju, Tsukasa, Hyoga, Suika, Kaseki, Ukyo, Gen, Luna, Carlos, Max, Xeno
Kohaku, Chrome, Suika and Kaiseki for sure aren't vaccinated, while Senku, Ryusui, Xeno, Ukyo and Luna for sure would have traveled enough to lower latitudes to require things like yellow fever vaccine.
The rest of old world people would have regular vaccines, except maybe Tsukasa for his orphaned chilhood, can't remember Hyoga's past, is unknown if Carlos and Max were Luna's home escort or her everywhere escort, same with Francois, I don't know if they are japanesse to match them with the rest. Tsukasa and Gen were local celebrities, and Tsukasa but could have traveled in their circles. Taiju would have just regular vaccination, not a wide spectrum:
https://www.jpeds.or.jp/uploads/files/20180801_JPS%20Schedule%20English.pdf
A quick search for amazon recommended vaccines, none of these on the pediatric guide:
For most Amazon destinations, Hepatitis A, Typhoid, and Yellow Fever vaccinations are recommended. Malaria preventatives are also recommended at many of the more remote lodges.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Forgot another possibility: Senku and Xeno awaited to awaken in spring, thing that doesn't exist in the equator and is the opposite date of the year in the sourthern hemisphere, another super scientis could be out there with a different starting time.
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Ohh I could totally see someone using the virus as a base to start a cult in the south and play god or something.
Anyway binge reading gave me a little fan theory that the petrification was meant to help humanity instead of end it but I'm sure it has been brought up several times.
So I think instead of medusa size gadgets, there's probably larger devices that work the same way.
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It for sure allowed the biosphere to heal from human activity, I think not even radiation from our nuclear reactors would stay for the thousand years, but I should check again.
While the cost of human lives was brutal, and nothing actually catastrophic happened (cosmic ray bombardment, meteor level destruction, and the such) as the astronauts descendants would have lived it, I do wonder if it is a fair trade off .
And now many of our human vices are product of an infrastructure that had to evolve over already rusted values and structures, the question of if they can create a better society that even if they Revive the wrong person, they can’t go and corrupt it, as the new normal is better for everyone including them, or that the structure is prepared to deal with bad faith actors.
The other part of human vices come from the lack of empathy, and I wonder if corn city will break the ishigami rule of keeping the total population manageable to keep the people as people and not numbers.
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Well, face negative consequences by breaking the rule, as they for sure have to break it to reach the 1m mark.
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Radiation from our reactors and bombs is going to have a negative impact on the surface of our planet for billions of years. Without us, those radioactive elements would still be deep in the crust of the Earth, in their natural form, undergoing slow fissile decay. Instead, we’ve dug up those elements, condensed and purified them, and forced them to undergo critical and supercritical fission, creating byproducts which are even more radioactive and extremely hard to store and protect the environment from.
Aside from that, though, yes. Much of the human impact on the planet would essentially vanish after a few thousand years if we were to suddenly disappear.
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You are right, I must have seen just natural radioactive materials when I searched that back during the Buddha statue part.
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Are those even real mathematical formulas?
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Yes they are. The ones I recognize and that aren't covered are largely related to thermodynamics.
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Is it just me or does Xeno always look inconsistent
Like in one panel he looks sleep deprived with narrower eyes and then another he's like a bobblin baby face with huge eyes
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Xeno has baby face when he's relaxed and sleep deprived face when plotting. I have to say, I've been barely been able to follow the events since Xeno's abduction.
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Yea it's been pretty confusing, but in the end I guess this is more refreshing than a long drawn out struggle in one location.
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Never has a manga chapter title described a picture so poetically well…
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That last page is like a mixture of Apocalypse Now and Apocalypto.
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I first thought that the structure in the last doublespread was an Inka/Aztec/whatever pyramid made out of some specific material. It wasn't until I read CCC's trivia on Twitter that it's a giant heap of Medusas
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Yup. Those last few pages are a thing of unsettling beauty. The plot thickens! Plus, Stanley's gang are not actually lost and this was all part of the plan!!! Waaaah! This is actually my least favorite part of the chapter and the story in general, recently. I want to get on with the main plot of uncovering the origin of the petri-beam, this whole political-ideological rivalry between groups is just a mild annoyance to me.
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El Dorado is actually the petrifaction city.
Also fucking called it…in some sort of way.
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Yup. Those last few pages are a thing of unsettling beauty. The plot thickens! Plus, Stanley's gang are not actually lost and this was all part of the plan!!! Waaaah! This is actually my least favorite part of the chapter and the story in general, recently. I want to get on with the main plot of uncovering the origin of the petri-beam, this whole political-ideological rivalry between groups is just a mild annoyance to me.
I agree with you but it will most likely be a recurring theme. I mean we had the whole conflict with Tsukasa right at the beginning and now it's Xeno/Stanley. The only break was that conflict with the evil priest.
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I agree with you but it will most likely be a recurring theme. I mean we had the whole conflict with Tsukasa right at the beginning and now it's Xeno/Stanley. The only break was that conflict with the evil priest.
I am aware of that, but I'm kind of tired because of it. But I guess there must be some degree of conflict, otherwise, the story would be a bit too "boring" for some people. Struggling against nature at this point in their technological evolution just doesn't cut it anymore, I guess.
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I am aware of that, but I'm kind of tired because of it. But I guess there must be some degree of conflict, otherwise, the story would be a bit too "boring" for some people. Struggling against nature at this point in their technological evolution just doesn't cut it anymore, I guess.
The main problem is that Stanley is extremely boring because he is "perfect". A great strategist, a master marksman, an ace pilot… Kind of funny that one of the main appeal that this story has is that Senku is not your typical shonen protagonist yet they cannot help themselves when it comes to antagonists like we see with Stanley now and saw with Tsukasa before.
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The medusa tower and the fact that they went with so many devices. Maybe it is impossible for a single device to cover earth but they can somehow make a circuit and do it, it would be another reason why would they make so many of them.
It is funny that after all planing and the repeating attack, they managed to miss 6 folk, and even then, Senku, Xeno and probably a few others managed to wake up eventually.
This paints the intentions of the why man at least anti-mankind, like finding an absurd mountain of rat poison.
I wonder if Rei’s comet is related, I didn’t want to think about that, because the series was more “grounded” back then, even with petrification at the core premise, but that was a giant alien encased in rock, the previous victim of the why man, or the way that their species manages interestelar travel? Combining chrome’s auto revival device, plus the fact that things get preserved inside the stone bodies better, an “alarm clock” that is swallowed could be used to send aliens around.
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Iirc CCC said that the Byakuya spinoff is not canon
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The main problem is that Stanley is extremely boring because he is "perfect". A great strategist, a master marksman, an ace pilot… Kind of funny that one of the main appeal that this story has is that Senku is not your typical shonen protagonist yet they cannot help themselves when it comes to antagonists like we see with Stanley now and saw with Tsukasa before.
Yeah, I gotta say that Stanley isn't interesting at all compared to all of the villains before him. This is the least interested I've been in the manga and nowhere near the heights of everything that happened in Japan.
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Yeah, I think that might be it. It's not the rivalry itself that bothers me, it's just that the villain is boring, this time. And his aides are even more boring. They're barely characters, unlike Tsukasa's or the old priest's minions. My interest also decreased quite a bit since Stanley showed up and this whole affair started. Not to mention that the deal with Xeno's "Corn city" was a bit of a mess for me to understand, which made it all worse. But this chapter began to rekindle my interest in this series, for sure. Those last pages, man…