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    • Kaptayn
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      Pedro joining confirmed

      ! :ninja:

      Speaking of Pedro, I'm starting to get suspicions as to what his real intentions are.

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        Am I the only one that thinks if any Mink from Zou was a traitor, their whole sacrifice would have been pointless? There is the '"unaware traitor" as in they have someone's vivre card, and I agree to this if it was Oden's vivre card they took.

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          I'm not doubting this but I'd like to know where he said it.

          He mentioned something like that in "Comickers" back in 1998.

          I had a sorcerer in a short story once, but I won't be using that in the series. Any preposterous situations are all created by the devil fruits. That one point is rather supernatural, but everything else is normal.

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            He mentioned something like that in "Comickers" back in 1998.

            Comickers -A Story to Draw the Ultimate One Frame-
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            Thanks a lot! :happy:

            Well, this destroyed my last hopes of having a proper witch that could cast spells and stuff. Except for if there turns out to be a "Witch Devil Fruit", but I doubt there will. Too vague.

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              A tree with a face! Just like Thriller Bark! A crew mate forced into marriage! Just like Thriller Bark! All these weird things that shouldn't be alive are alive because of a Devil Fruit! Just like Thriller Bark!

              Evelyn I'm surprised you didn't quit the series when Gaimon and his weird animals were revealed.

              As Sandman cited, we've known since forever that most anything magical is the result of a Devil Fruit. Be it from one user manipulating the population to become something strange or by awakening and changing the very landscape or climate.

              I hope the previous user of Eneru's lightning fruit had his fruit awakened and thats what causes the constant lightning on that Thunder God island. Just to read your frustration.

              Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯

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                A tree with a face! Just like Thriller Bark! A crew mate forced into marriage! Just like Thriller Bark! All these weird things that shouldn't be alive are alive because of a Devil Fruit! Just like Thriller Bark!

                Evelyn I'm surprised you didn't quit the series when Gaimon and his weird animals were revealed.

                As Sandman cited, we've known since forever that most anything magical is the result of a Devil Fruit.

                I knew that. But as I said, forgive people who aren't craving for this kind of stuff. Not everyone can enjoy this kind of wacky settings, be it created by a devil fruit or not (it doesn't matter anyway).

                Like I said previously, Alabasta/Skypiea/Water Seven, the best period of this manga, had a nice mixed stuff of normal and fun settings. The weirdness and goofiness keep increasing since Thriller Bark, and (I think) it hurts the story. As you can see this arc is already very controversed in the discussions.

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                  I dislike Thriller Bark (the ONLY arc I hate) mainly because I just found the Halloween setting boring and uninteresting but this chapter reminded me of that arc but with candy and Alice in Wonderland, and I liked it.

                  The face of a Straw Hat.

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                    Call me an old man, but when the whole chapter only consists of panels of people constantly freaking out about something, even my beloved Chopper starts pissing me off.

                    The panels also featured the things that were being freaked out about!

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                      Yeah Oda culd you please stop it with the: Go to a new island, conflict with an enemy thing. After 800 chapters, still the same stuff, talk about original.

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                        If I agree that the animated inanimated things were certainly created by a devil fruit, I'm not so sure about the edible island. After all there was one with giant eggs or one with giant brocolies

                        Oh, no, the edible island I could totally see as "the Grand Line is weird like that!". Or that Swallow island being in the shape of a Swallow, or the Boing Archipelago being a giant carnivorous plant, or Gaimon's island featuring crazy mixed animals, or the candy rain we've seen a couple times already in the series. That kind of stuff is the silly stuff Oda loves to do.

                        A burger talking, walking and singing that once it gets eaten says "oh, I'm delicious, so I'm happy!", yeah, that can't be explained by "oh, the Grand Line is weird like that!".

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                          @evelyne:

                          I knew that. But as I said, forgive people who aren't craving for this kind of stuff. Not everyone can enjoy this kind of wacky settings, be it created by a devil fruit or not (it doesn't matter anyway).

                          Like I said previously, Alabasta/Skypiea/Water Seven, the best period of this manga, had a nice mixed stuff of normal and fun settings. The weirdness and goofiness keep increasing since Thriller Bark, and (I think) it hurts the story. As you can see this arc is already very controversed in the discussions.

                          I don't think either Punk Hazard or Dressrosa were that goofy. Dressrosa itself was mostly based in at least two real-life countries. Punk Hazard was also relatively tame, with the only weird thing being the climate (the main setting was the abandoned lab).

                          Nothing more incredulous than an earth island impaled on an inexplicable beanstalk up in the sky.

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                            @evelyne:

                            People saying "this is your typical One Piece adventure and exploring"…no...Alabasta, Skypiea, Water Seven had that stuff and it was good, the golden age of this manga. It was serious and funny at the same time, interesting and creative. This is just...dumb and weird. "I'm buried because I like being burried" wow, Goda. This manga is just getting dumber and dumber, just like his main character. Forgive people who aren't craving for this kind of stuff. One Piece really started getting very wonky and weird at Thriller Bark. But before that it wasn't, even Foxy arc was funny and weird but it wasn't over the top. Oda is really trying too hard to make Big Mom's world all weird and wonky. It can't please everyone.

                            And this is getting again very repetitive, we've had Dressrosa being very similar to Alabasta and now this is getting very similar to Thriller Bark. It's like Oda is recycling his own arcs with a lower quality. I bet just like Moria's zombies and Dressorosa toys, or Punk Hazard's weirdness, we will learn soon that all these living things are made by a devil fruit user, it's just the same thing over again.

                            Go read Bleach you huge baby.

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                              Let's play the game: Name the most normal island in One Piece. Put your nominations in, and then prove other nomination wrong by giving their wacky/weird/outofplace feature! go!

                              • syrup village

                              Ps: Whomever wins gets a red star…shaped brownie point!

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                                I too think Oda's been playing up fantastical elements too much lately, like that previous storyline where Oda actually literally based a whole island off Spain.
                                That's just completely insane.

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                                  @Tamiel:

                                  Let's play the game: Name the most normal island in One Piece. Put your nominations in, and then prove other nomination wrong by giving their wacky/weird/outofplace feature! go!

                                  • syrup village

                                  Ps: Whomever wins gets a red star…shaped brownie point!

                                  Cocoyashi Village

                                  The face of a Straw Hat.

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                                    @Tamiel:

                                    Let's play the game: Name the most normal island in One Piece. Put your nominations in, and then prove other nomination wrong by giving their wacky/weird/outofplace feature! go!

                                    • syrup village

                                    Ps: Whomever wins gets a red star…shaped brownie point!

                                    That would be Orange Village. The only landmark of note there is a pet shop and the dog guarding it.

                                    At least Syrup Village has a mansion, with a half-sheep butler.

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                                    Cocoyashi Village

                                    Fish-Human hybrid water park, featuring a giant, literal cowfish.

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                                      @King:

                                      I don't think either Punk Hazard or Dressrosa were that goofy. Dressrosa itself was mostly based in at least two real-life countries. Punk Hazard was also relatively tame, with the only weird thing being the climate (the main setting was the abandoned lab).

                                      Nothing more incredulous than an earth island impaled on an inexplicable beanstalk up in the sky.

                                      What was it based on besides spain?

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                                      So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?

                                      H x H Chimera Ant Arc / OP Manga Spoiler

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                                        What was it based on besides spain?

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                                        Italy, with the Roman-like Colosseum.

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                                          @King:

                                          That would be Orange Village. The only landmark of note there is a pet shop.

                                          At least Syrup Village has a mansion, with a half-sheep butler.

                                          Fish-Human hybrid water park, featuring a giant, literal cowfish.

                                          My bad. Cocoyashi Village - Before the Arlong Pirates

                                          The face of a Straw Hat.

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                                            @Monkey:

                                            I too think Oda's been playing up fantastical elements too much lately, like that previous storyline where Oda actually literally based a whole island off Spain.
                                            That's just completely insane.

                                            Yeah minus the toys which were devil fruit based, the only odd thing about that arc was the tonattas and those were foreshadowed long ago and were generally played straight, aka not too goofy of personalities

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                                            So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?

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                                              we've had Dressrosa being very similar to Alabasta

                                              Just…no.
                                              Aside from some superficial things they aren't similar at all. You can't just ignore all the differences.

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                                                @Long:

                                                What was it based on besides spain?

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                                                It was mostly Spain but had elements from various other Mediterranean countries like Italy and Greece.

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                                                  @Monkey:

                                                  The panels also featured the things that were being freaked out about!

                                                  I know that was kind of the point of this chapter, but these people lived through the Thriller Bark arc two years ago and saw alot more weird stuff since then. They seem to overreact on anything, aren't they getting older? But I guess I just miss another sane man in the current group.

                                                  On another note, for me as a reader, the weird stuff of Oda becomes normal. That's why the joke with the reaction of the others to Nami's surprise fell flat for me. Those hypocrites :getlost:

                                                  “As I stand out here in the wonders of the unknown at Hadley, I sort of realize there’s a fundamental truth to our nature: Man must explore!” – David Scott, Moon

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                                                    @King:

                                                    That would be Orange Village. The only landmark of note there is a pet shop and the dog guarding it.

                                                    At least Syrup Village has a mansion, with a half-sheep butler.

                                                    Fish-Human hybrid water park, featuring a giant, literal cowfish.

                                                    How dare you call weird to my fashionably sheep butler.
                                                    Orange village: the place where dogs don't get eaten by lions. So how about where they found Zoro, surely there is nothing weird there?

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                                                    My bad. Cocoyashi Village - Before the Arlong Pirates

                                                    That is cheating, yellow card.

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                                                      @Tamiel:

                                                      How dare you call weird to my fashionably sheep butler.
                                                      Orange village: the place where dogs don't get eaten by lions. So how about where they found Zoro, surely there is nothing weird there?

                                                      Yes. There was Helmeppo.

                                                      And his spring-loaded hammer gun 😛

                                                      In seriousness, it has a Marine Base, which is more than what can be talked about the other East Blue Islands. Most of them feature typical rural villages.

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                                                        @Wintermute:

                                                        I know that was kind of the point of this chapter, but these people lived through the Thriller Bark arc two years ago and saw alot more weird stuff since then.

                                                        The point of all this is for us the reader to soak in and enjoy the scenery and strangeness.

                                                        On another note, for me as a reader, the weird stuff of Oda becomes normal.

                                                        Oh ok, so its all just "weird stuff" and not wildly different things that have next to nothing to do with each-other.
                                                        Haunted graveyards are the same thing as Candy Land sure ok.

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                                                          From what we've seen Raftel looks pretty generic. So, for now, I go with Raftel as the most generic place in the OP world.

                                                          Forum user Bartholemew Bear passed away in a very moving and touching way. I, ARTEMlS, therefore carry on the Will of DArth for good unto its final fulfilment.

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                                                            Does Windmill Village/Goa Kingdom doesn't count it?

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                                                              Loguetown should definitely count.

                                                              The face of a Straw Hat.

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                                                                @Bartholemew:

                                                                From what we've seen Raftel looks pretty generic. So, for now, I go with Raftel as the most generic place in the OP world.

                                                                So far, the most reasonable place, though be careful you might lose of someone brings forth the fact that you can't get to it without knowing the location of 4 other places, also aliens…mofo aliens.
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                                                                Does Windmill Village/Goa Kingdom doesn't count it?

                                                                Eh, given my nomation got taken down because of Helmeppo and Sheep Butler I have to say that an unimportant king and kids laughing at burning people is a bit weird. Especially the fact that the king is so….not important in a world filled with monarchy.
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                                                                Loguetown should definitely count.

                                                                Weirdly changing weather, you could argue that it was Dragon, bt we really have not been shown with fool proof clarity have we? Also smoke man that smokes more than one cigar at the time, more like Cray cray.

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                                                                      Hey, there is Mock Town isn't it? Only the Land in the Clouds above is weird.

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                                                                        @KageKageKing:

                                                                        Hey, there is Mock Town isn't it? Only the Land in the Clouds above is weird.

                                                                        You are correct! However the fact that the island might disappear if knock up streams keep breaking it up might make the island non-existant one day, but for now, you are a runner up with Raftel over there!

                                                                        Shimutsuki Village - is this part of the Goa kingdom? Dragon had anchored near the Dojo, I wonder how far away was that from Sabo's ship wreckage.

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                                                                          @KageKageKing:

                                                                          Does Windmill Village/Goa Kingdom doesn't count it?

                                                                          Windmill Village was generic and dull until Oda revealed the larger Goa Kingdom it belonged to.

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                                                                          Shimutsuki Village - is this part of the Goa kingdom? Dragon had anchored near the Dojo, I wonder how far away was that from Sabo's ship wreckage.

                                                                          I'm pretty sure it mentioned Zoro's village as being on a different island.

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                                                                            Why Nami said its not Sanji? That's really Sanji back then from 4Kids Dub, holding lolipop..

                                                                            Yes we can

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                                                                              Goat Island. It has nothing but the now defunct base of Alvida's crew.

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                                                                                @Wintermute:

                                                                                I know that was kind of the point of this chapter, but these people lived through the Thriller Bark arc two years ago and saw alot more weird stuff since then. They seem to overreact on anything, aren't they getting older? But I guess I just miss another sane man in the current group.

                                                                                On another note, for me as a reader, the weird stuff of Oda becomes normal. That's why the joke with the reaction of the others to Nami's surprise fell flat for me. Those hypocrites :getlost:

                                                                                There is no such thing as character growing up in One Piece. They will have the same antics till the end of the serie 🙂

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                                                                                  So first thought is why has brook been getting so much panel time? He's getting built up for something maybe.

                                                                                  Luffy has a moment of clarity pointing out the relative lack of strangeness there is anymore. Then he gets tricked by his reflection and loses it. Buried man is strange.

                                                                                  The best navigator in the world is in a forest that rearranges itself. Nami might get them out of a really tight spot. Big Mam's main island isn't something you just walk onto, even with the secret path.

                                                                                  This forest is scarier/creepier than thriller bark.

                                                                                  the best navigator doesn't have a compass anymore

                                                                                  if anything,carrot with her jumpig abilities might come in handy in this situation

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                                                                                    if anything,carrot with her jumpig abilities might come in handy in this situation

                                                                                    There is probably an invisible roof or something above the forest.

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                                                                                      Or the trees just flat out stop you. I think Sanji-pop is the Cheshire cat and someone has the mirror/reflection fruit. I don't want it to be the candy, food poisoning just happened.

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                                                                                        I wonder what the limitations of this mirror fruit are. Can this reflection keep up with stuff like gear 4? Can it even keep up with a Yonkou or a beast like Zunisha? If yes, or if we at least don't see a power-wise limitation, my guess is that this battle will be decided by uneven terrain. If the reflection isn't synchron anymore, I guess it'll be toast very fast.

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                                                                                          @Maju:

                                                                                          the best navigator doesn't have a compass anymore

                                                                                          if anything,carrot with her jumpig abilities might come in handy in this situation

                                                                                          I'd be kind of disappointed if nami was useless without a log pose or compass. She's a top class navigator so she should help them outta there in some way.

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                                                                                            How about trying that badass new climatact next chapter?

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                                                                                              I'd be kind of disappointed if nami was useless without a log pose or compass. She's a top class navigator so she should help them outta there in some way.

                                                                                              navigators still use instruments to navigate,you know that right?it's like saying that you will be disappointed that the best pilot in the world still needs a car to win a race.

                                                                                              she does still need a reference,being that the north given by a compass,an island given by a logpose,the stars in the sky (that aren't there because it's at best afternoon),anything that can give her a direction.

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                                                                                                We're talking about a girl that predicts hurricanes by feeling the pressure of the atmosphere here.

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                                                                                                    @Maju:

                                                                                                    navigators still use instruments to navigate,you know that right?it's like saying that you will be disappointed that the best pilot in the world still needs a car to win a race.

                                                                                                    she does still need a reference,being that the north given by a compass,an island given by a logpose,the stars in the sky (that aren't there because it's at best afternoon),anything that can give her a direction.

                                                                                                    Real life navigator have been known to use the stars to find their way! Then again maybe the branches might block out the sky!

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                                                                                                      Real life navigator have been known to use the stars to find their way! Then again maybe the branches might block out the sky!

                                                                                                      I literally put them as a possibility in my post,but it's morning@KageKageKing:

                                                                                                      We're talking about a girl that predicts hurricanes by feeling the pressure of the atmosphere here.

                                                                                                      and what has this to do with orientation?

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                                                                                                        @Tamiel:

                                                                                                        Let's play the game: Name the most normal island in One Piece. Put your nominations in, and then prove other nomination wrong by giving their wacky/weird/outofplace feature! go!

                                                                                                        • syrup village

                                                                                                        Ps: Whomever wins gets a red star…shaped brownie point!

                                                                                                        waves hand Er… pre Akainu and Kuzan Punk Hazard! Seriously, it was just a boooring abandoned island before that event.

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