244 will be up tomorrow night about 24 hours from now.
Thank you Gerusama! Very Very much! I really am enjoying this arc animated and it's all thanks to you.
I will hopefully have a direct up Sat. for those who don't torrent.
Peace
244 will be up tomorrow night about 24 hours from now.
Thank you Gerusama! Very Very much! I really am enjoying this arc animated and it's all thanks to you.
I will hopefully have a direct up Sat. for those who don't torrent.
Peace
Wooo, yeah, thanks Gerusama!
was starting to think it weren't coming, yay :)
Well though I´m looking forward at another great Gerusama sub, I´m really not looking forward at this episode itself. The way how they handled the revelation of that one Shipwright was just poorly executed and could have been done much better. =(
Isn't this one with the weird drop-down scene? >_>
Anyways, I can't wait! Although their site says torrent tracker is down and their bots aren't fast for me… (7 KB/sec...)
Isn't this one with the weird drop-down scene? >_>
What drop-down scene? Sorry for the stupid question but I just appear to have a blackout here.
we'll use a temp tracker 'til it's up again, so don't worry ^^
Well though I´m looking forward at another great Gerusama sub, I´m really not looking forward at this episode itself. The way how they handled the revelation of that one Shipwright was just poorly executed and could have been done much better. =(
well that's the thing, if you read the foums, it was huge that is was Lucci when for me and it seems Toei, it was rather "meh, it's Lucci" though i must say i too didn't like the way the Tilestone vs Blueno scene was handled but the way that Robin straddled Iceberg, even i'd say "nmahhhhh" lol. all in all i just hope they don't drag it out too much.
What drop-down scene? Sorry for the stupid question but I just appear to have a blackout here.
The screen is black and you see the floor come down slowly… o_o
well that's the thing, if you read the foums, it was huge that is was Lucci when for me and it seems Toei, it was rather "meh, it's Lucci" though i must say i too didn't like the way the Tilestone vs Blueno scene was handled but the way that Robin straddled Iceberg, even i'd say "nmahhhhh" lol. all in all i just hope they don't drag it out too much.
Well the Lucci thing didn´t bother me that much. But the Tekkai/Tileston Hammer thing did. Very poor execution by my book. And yes that revelation will be stretched a bit. But that´s not the bad part, it´s how they spoil the identity already before he actually gets revealed what ruins the DON effect. But let´s talk about that when the episode is released because I don´t want to spoil it for people who haven´t seen it before.
The screen is black and you see the floor come down slowly… o_o
Hmm, don´t remember that scene. We´ll I guess I´ll just have to wait and see myself. :laugh:
Well the Lucci thing didn´t bother me that much. But the Tekkai/Tileston Hammer thing did. Very poor execution by my book.
That was actually one of my favorite scenes ever XD Maybe it helps if you don't remember how it went in the manga..
another thing i didn't like was how zoro took out the carpenters, for me it should've been one swift stroke, not him running through like an amatuer.
@jackvance:
That was actually one of my favorite scenes ever XD Maybe it helps if you don't remember how it went in the manga..
Well that´s the thing. The manga always stays as my main preference.
another thing i didn't like was how zoro took out the carpenters, for me it should've been one swift stroke, not him running through like an amatuer.
Well that again made sense. Zoro was hitting the guys with the back side of his sword so one swift stroke doesn´t work because he´s not slicing through them.
you're right, aesthetically pleasing isn't always accurate, the scene is now acceptible :lol: :P
its out now.
Since we already know who the mysterious Cutty Flam was, I don't really mind the upcoming flashback's "preview". It made the whole episode so full of stuff that my brain keeps wanting for more!
I don't watch the animation that much but what was different about the animation in the Tilestone scene?
It's well-done, according to normal OP episode standards? ^^;
Seriously, I think they should put more frames… -_-"
Eh, Toei is cheap. At least the animation is better than in Skypiea. :P
I thought it was a good episode. The way they showed the flashback with Iceberg and Franky was better than I thought it was going to be based on what people were saying. I thought it was well done, actually. I was worrying about that part when I read the manga, because in the manga, that scene actually comes after Franky's full flashback. It seemed like it would be very tedious and just too long if they did it that way in the anime, so I think they made a good decision. Unless they tack it on the end again anyway, then I'll be angry. XD
I liked the extra scene with Usopp, but did they have to show that flashback to episode 233 AGAIN? :wacko:
@omae:
I don't watch the animation that much but what was different about the animation in the Tilestone scene?
Well what I think was an unneccessary change is the scene with the hammer. Here´s pics of both the manga…
…and the anime...
IMO the manga has somewhat more intensity because you really see that something hard and solid is breaking appart while in the anime though clearly established as an iron hammer I can´t get rid of the feeling as if something very soft has been pressed together which doesn´t make the Tekkai appear as strong as in the manga. But of course that´s just my subjective point of view.
And as far as the Franky thing is concerned. True people who read the manga know about it. But there´s also people who just watch the anime and the DON-effect got ruined because you could already tell that it is Franky when you see Cutty Flam´s bare feet or his shirt. The whole scene itself wasn´t handeled badly but they shouldn´t have shown parts of Flams body before the revelation.
And since there was this additional stuff with Usopp, it would have actually worked so well that the Franky face that is shown when Lucci reveals the secret, would show Franky how he triumphantly laughs at Usopp. But instead they showed a rather unspectaculare image of his past and the DON-effect was definitely gone. This is an anticlimatic way of producing a scene.
I agree that the Cutty Flam scene could have been handled better.. as soon as I saw him walk up, I looked at the legs and said to myself "Thats pretty obvious that its Franky…"
but still a good episode.
Well, as for me, the hammer thing, I really don't care. It gets the same point across either way. The only thing that bothered me was that they had to show it twice, before and after the commercial break.
And with the nature of watching a show rather than reading a comic, I personally felt the impact was still just as dramatic the way they revealed Franky was Cutty Flam. It would have been lame if Oda had done it that way in a black and white panel, but it's different in animation. What works for one format doesn't always work for another.
Well, as for me, the hammer thing, I really don't care. It gets the same point across either way. The only thing that bothered me was that they had to show it twice, before and after the commercial break.
Oh yeah, really forgot about that. That was really really annoying and a waste of time.
And with the nature of watching a show rather than reading a comic, I personally felt the impact was still just as dramatic the way they revealed Franky was Cutty Flam. It would have been lame if Oda had done it that way in a black and white panel, but it's different in animation. What works for one format doesn't always work for another.
True with the format thing, but still Toei just should have hidden the legs, the hair and the shirt until Franky gets revealed. It just isn´t much of a DON scene when you can tell by the feet and then by the shirt that is Franky. I mean it´s a waste of time because from these hints you arlready know who it is, so where´s the surprise part and the DON effect when he gets revealed?
And it really would have worked so well if they would have shown another Usopp/Franky scene where they are mute and in the background you hear Lucci´s voice revealing that Flam is Franky.
I mean in the manga when Lucci revealed it, the pic we saw of Franky was showing him in a generic laugh mode. It´s as if it was an image of him when he was enjoying his time. And therefore I think the anime would have done it brilliantly if they would have also shown a animation of him when he is laughing and what makes him laugh is the tied up Usopp by his side. Would have worked much better IMO.
Well, maybe…before I actually saw this episode, I thought the same thing, but I tried to put myself in the shoes of someone who hadn't already seen the manga, and I just concluded that they did the right thing, because they accomplished another purpose by including the flashback in that same scene. I've had bigger beefs with anime changes.
Ooooooh that? I noticed it but didn't really think much about it. I've tried to think of a good reason they changed it and I really can't. No biggie. Manga always rules anyway ^O^
@omae:
Manga always rules anyway ^O^
That´s true. Though the only beef I had with the manga and where I think it was much better (and funnier) handled in the anime was way back in the Kuro arc when Luffy was hit in the back of his head with Jango´s weapon. That wasn´t handled well in the manga because Luffy´s weakness are sharp objects and he even got hit by it at a very vital point and yet it was as if it was nothing. Very bad IMO. The anime was much better and funnier there.
However Oda was still at his beginings back then so I guess it´s tolerable. And this just one situation where the anime describes it better then the manga whereas the manga mostly is better then the anime. I think it is fitting to end this post with the following statement because I know Omae loves it:
An exception defines the rule.
Ah, finally things are getting intresting, this was one of the most information-filled episodes in OP, and I loved the scenes already in the manga but I agree that they kinda ruined the Cutty Flam=Franky-scene. :( Though I knew what was going to be revealed it would have still been nice to see the DON-feeling in the anime also.
And since there was this additional stuff with Usopp, it would have actually worked so well that the Franky face that is shown when Lucci reveals the secret, would show Franky how he triumphantly laughs at Usopp. But instead they showed a rather unspectaculare image of his past and the DON-effect was definitely gone. This is an anticlimatic way of producing a scene.
I agree.
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Direct Download for 244.
-I really Liked this episode. As far as them revealing franky like that…it didn't really bother me that much. I think that because we read the manga it makes it hard to judge those "revelation scenes". I find myself having those same issues in Bleach and Naruto.
Enjoy BTW.
and Thanks again Gerusama!
Cool, direct download time. My bit torrent hasn't been working recently, I'll have to look into that. Anyways, thanks kdb and Geru Sama for another great episode!
Thx for the DD link.. just got my new laptop and haven't installed anything yet, so no mirc or anything.. so is very welcome :)
hm probably will need to install codecs to watch it though.. anyway, I'll post my thoughts about the ep soon ^^ Can't wait to see it at any rate cuz water 7 is really rocking in the anime imho
Oh yeah.. and Ivotas I have to agree now I saw how it was done in the manga that that was cooler.. but the fight scene 'flashes' and Blueno saying 'Tekkai' with this ironclad voice and closing his fist kinda made everything in that scene cool as hell simply by association =) And him pounding Tileston into the ground after was godly too
u know what i find pretty stupid that i just relized this episode why does kaku wear a hat under his mask lol
Hm, maybe he´s hiding something and doesn´t anybody ever to find out so instead of giving people the chance to get a sneak peek at it when he changes from mask to cap he wears the cap even when he wears a mask.
Other then that unlike Califa who took her glasses of because they would have not worked well with the mask, Kaku has this large skull as mask. And if his nose fits in then the hat shouldn´t be a problem.
Ok just watched it.. quite good but kinda 'transitional' since the Franky thing was far from a secret.. can't wait for the next ep, CP9 vs the strawhats ^^
I think Gerusama's site is down for now.
Works for me. I think he's going to Japan for awhile, though.
Works for me. I think he's going to Japan for awhile, though.
I really wish I was… =(
Ah, sorry, you said "if". I misread a post that you said you were going. Well, I hope you do get to go.
I tried to get 220-228, but the torrent wouldn't work.
Well the torrents don´t work because the tracker is down. It is actually mentioned on the front page.
thanks kdb! really appreciate it!
has anyones mums, boyfriends, cousins, uncles, half sisters, daughters, husbands, brothers, lawyers, sons, cheating girlfriend hooked up with geru and got info on when the next episode is coming? ^o)
Well I certainly hope no cheating girlfriends are hooking up with Gerusama, then it may be even longer until we see the next episode. XD
but if she's not cheating on his best friend with him, what real blackmailing leverage do we have?