@Galaxy:
All we know is that he was smoking when he joined the Marines.
maybe after the df he started to smoke the second
@Galaxy:
All we know is that he was smoking when he joined the Marines.
maybe after the df he started to smoke the second
yeah i didnt post with the intention to say "you're wrong" i just wanted to mention that its likely going to happen and that those things dont happen because the character should be portrait as someone who only looks for guys with abilities he likes, but that its just a common pattern.
also since smokers epiphet is already white hunter, i thought smoker would be his real name.
No problem. As for Smoker, I said probably because there's no way to know if it's his given name or not.
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maybe after the df he started to smoke the second
And he planned on quitting before he ate it.
Lol, keep the dream alive.
Well..I don't care that much about Wapol's return. I just wanted to make fun of the world gorverment.
T-Rex?
I hope they aren't all zoans. A zoan only themed Yonkou would be so bland.
Grasshopper for ZORO
i know for sure that new chapter will be awesome!!!! i'm hopping they gonna fighting against jack , it will be awesome if zoro gonna fight against jack :P probably he will use ashura or some other shit :D but i don't think he will fight against jack because he have most bounty they ever see , so probably that battle will be zoro and trafalgar against jack , thats my opinion. :p
Kaido will have some devil fruit users besides zoans in his crew but his crew will be mostly zoan fruit users due to the fact that he has hundreds of smile zoan users alone which would be enough to make his crew mostly a zoan one even if he did not have any zoans in his crew before he started getting smiles and that they're the beast pirates plus kaido and green bull have zoans also makes sense since we don't have not seen a zoan yonkou and the new admiral theme seems to one of every type kizaru is logia and purple tight has the gravity paramecia so that leaves green bull with zoan.
Praying Mantis would suit him better :)
I want it to look like the pokemon version after all both come from japan so oda would have seen it before lol.
They brought help with them? Who could help Blackbeard?
His allies most likely he was in the NW for a year sure he made some. Could been other pirate crews who joined up with Blackbeard because he ended Whitebeard and his crew dominance.
They brought help with them? Who could help Blackbeard?
Hmm, true. The Mangastream version is "both sides brought their full forces". I guess they're not quite the same thing, are they? Also, in addition to who could help Blackbeard, I'm also curious as to who would, and why.
Do you remember back during the end of marineford arc Sengoku was talking about happened in impel down and he was told how Magellan was still alive and that other people from level 6 got out of impel down not just the ones that joined Blackbeard pirates?
The level 6 people that did not join Blackbeard's crew most likely each became a captain of their own crews and allied with Blackbeard after all a lot of them wanted to actually go to the war to kill whitebeard so they would be more than happy to fight against the remaining whitebeard pirates but not much would have been reported about them since the world govt not even giving the level 6 people bounty posters since it would make the world govt look bad lol.
Urouge's crew is most likely allied with the blackbeard pirates as well since at the end of the war he said blackbeard was the key to the new era or something like that plus he could have joined in the battle as well since 1 year had passed.
Blackbeard most likely has even more allies now that he is a yonkou as well now plus he most likely let people choose to ally with him if he did not want any of their devil fruits plus he had a year to get allies as well most likely people he spared by letting them live after beating them.
Do you think that after their defeat some of Whitebeard allies could have joined Blackbeard ?
Do you think that after their defeat some of Whitebeard allies could have joined Blackbeard ?
Highly doubtful since they think Blackbeard scum and he killed there pops.
Do you think that after their defeat some of Whitebeard allies could have joined Blackbeard ?
I could see some getting captured, but I doubt any of WB's ex-crewmates are joining BB.
Did anyone state that Brook passed on making a skeleton joke about his eyes? Brook stops joking when his serious.
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Did anyone state that Brook passed on making a skeleton joke about his eyes? Brook stops joking when his serious.
You can actually see him struggling to hold it in on the following panel, lol.
I'm deaf, so I won't be able to listen to it. I'd like to know his thoughts on Momo, though, so hopefully this podcast comes with a transcript?
from the great new world discussion thread (post #3107)
I just listened to part of the podcast, enough to hear Greg's theory and a bit beyond that. I stopped it an hour in so if anyone would like to add something, please go ahead. Anyways, I thought it would be nice to post Greg's Momo theory on here so that people can easily read it and discuss it here, without having to go through the podcast.
First off a very interesting theory that came up before Momo was discussed was in relation to what Kin'emon said about having met both Whitebeard and Roger. Greg thought that this implies that he met them at the same time, which could shed light on this scene where Roger and Whitebeard are talking: http://manga.life/read-online/OnePiece/chapter-576/index-1/page-10 What if the island they are sitting here turns out to be Wano?
Anyways, on to the good stuff about Momo. I hope I'm phrasing everything right, and if not Greg can slap me. People who thought that Momo was just being a stupid child, or lying to seem cool, were deceived by Oda. Kids normally are not trustworthy, but Momo has been used to drop hints here and there (he was humourously called "Spoilerosuke", lol). Examples include when he said that all Pirates were big, tall and scary, which turned out to be a fitting description of Kaidou. Or his fear of dragons, which is likely a hint to Kaidou's power. Or how he will be Shogun some day, which makes sense because he is royalty and we know the current Shogun will be overthrown.
So what does Momo mean by saying that he knows Roger? Greg thinks it's not that time runs differently on Wano or anything like that, but that Momo and the Kouzuki family in general have either a very special type of Color of Observation or the Voice of All Things (they were kind of mentioning both so I did not quite catch which one Momo and the Kouzukis probably have). The question is, how did the Kouzuki clan create the Poneglyphs, specifically with the ancient language on it? Perhaps they were shown the language by people from the past. We know that Momo can hear voices, as he stated when they were on the way to the whale. It ties in with an old theory about what the Voice could potentially evolve into: maybe it will not just be a voice in the end, but also a way of seeing visuals. When Rayleigh said that everyone inherently has the capacity to use Haki, even if few actually awaken this ability, Oda may have been doing more than just setting his story up conveniently so that he can give anyone Haki at any time. We know how there will be a world war at the end of the Manga. But how do you get the crucial info that Luffy & co will find at Raftel and along the way to everyone in the world to mobilise them? Newspapers are controlled by the Government and the CDs, so no way that's going to happen. So the idea is, what if there is a Goku-like situation (I did not read Dragon Ball so unfortunately I cannot elaborate on this analogy :D) and Luffy is able to convey the secret of the world to everyone through a world-wide awakening of haki and the ability of everyone to hear the transmitted voices. Maybe not everyone, as such, but at least a large portion of people.
Anyways, they also discussed potential of the Straw Hats to re-visit people from the past. Though it sounds cheesy, maybe Luffy will see Ace again for a moment through the Voice (which could later evolve to include visuals), or Bellemere can see Nami again, etc. Momo's remarks breathe new life into these theories. If he really did see Roger through the Voice, it opens up the possibility of these things happening.
Again, sorry if I did not phrase something right, I just wanted to make sure someone put it here so it can be discussed. I certainly think it's intriguing. Especially the world-wide awakening thing sounds a little stretchy to me right now, but I wouldn't exclude the possibility per se.
EDIT: might be nice to have a link to the podcast: https://soundcloud.com/onepiecepodcast/episode-411-the-whappening
The Momo stuff starts when they're almost 44 minutes in, in case someone wants to hear Greg's exact words. Although I feel like I copied quite a lot of it almost verbatim from the podcast.
Being obliterated does not equal not putting up a fight. But we'll probably hear all about that from Marco.
Letting BB loose for a year might have been a mistake, though.
Meh. They've been pretty disappointing in their showing and Blackbeard is quite effective when off-screened. I can't say it is all that surprising.
I always call BS on the idea the yonko would let Blackbeard run free with Whitheard's and a bunch of people they know to be dangerous. But it's not the first time development regarding Blackbeard seems ridiculous.
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Hmm, true. The Mangastream version is "both sides brought their full forces". I guess they're not quite the same thing, are they? Also, in addition to who could help Blackbeard, I'm also curious as to who would, and why.
People interested in Blackbeard philosophy or interested in supporting the next yonko. Dude was a rockstar. There's also those that simply got a beating ro understand who is the boss.
and then luffy is hearing the voice….
...the voice of oda screaming hiatus.
i wasn't expecting jack to be back so i'm dying to see what happens now. i have the feeling zunisha will die even if jack will be obliterated but i hope to be wrong. i like zou (the city) a lot, plus i find minks rather cool
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Meh. They've been pretty disappointing in their showing and Blackbeard is quite effective when off-screened. I can't say it is all that surprising.
maybe bb is only shy and can't deliver while in the spotlight, he's so anxious to impress us he mess everything everytime… if we ain't looking at him he's fine
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I also wonder when weevil will show up. my bet are on wano but also with a slight chance he'll be on spot before the end of zou. on the other hand, if his mom doesn't know how to find luffy, he'll probably go to the tea party since should be known in the nw that sanji's gonna be there. that only demonstrate that i'm confused btw
Weevil will show up in the Nekoms searching for Marco storyline
@sanji''s_dad:
The fact that they could not take whitebeard's power until he was dead and the fact that smiley from punk hazard did not have his devil fruit resurrect into a nearby apple until he died also Blackbeard might be able to increase the chance of it resurrecting into a fruit he has on himself by sucking the devil out of a dying person into the nearby fruit instead of just leaving it to luck that the fruit he is holding will have the fruit turn into a devil fruit.
All right that makes sense, thanks.
Here is the link of One Piece podcast new episode with Greg : in case if anyone missed it
The last few chapters were amazing. So much info, so much plot twists, so much revelations..!!
Here in this page a short resume of "Momotaro"'s tale, a very famous children's tale in japan..
Momotaro's alongside the jurney meets, A Monkey… a bird and a Dog , to fight the Demon on a certain island
Ring any bells?
Its probably nothing important, I just thought it was interesting
Here is the link of One Piece podcast new episode with Greg : in case if anyone missed it
imma fix it up for ya https://soundcloud.com/onepiecepodcast/episode-411-the-whappening still tnx
Now I know what Greg meant and that I read this in the past… Still dunno if I would really like it...
And still I ask myself if the voice and breathe of all things are the same or at least related
Here in this page a short resume of "Momotaro"'s tale, a very famous children's tale in japan..
Momotaro's alongside the jurney meets, A Monkey… a bird and a Dog , to fight the Demon on a certain island
Ring any bells?
Its probably nothing important, I just thought it was interesting
it took me a moment to realize that your not talking about the theme of the 3 admirals
yes would be fun indeed, however theres still nekoms (whoever called him that, from now on im gonna use that name too:ninja:)
Now I know what Greg meant and that I read this in the past… Still dunno if I would really like it...
And still I ask myself if the voice and breathe of all things are the same or at least related
yeah i have to admit when greg posted about how he figured out the meaing behind momos quote i really hoped for some kind of gag/ japanese wordplay being the answer.
on the second one:
they shouldnt be the same, since else zoro would to have to react to the things like momo and roger.
however i'd say they are at least somehow related.
Yeah it would be weird for Inu to be one of the three animals and not Neko. Since they are always treated as equals.
I'm a bit disappointed by Greg's Momo thing. Sure the theory is pretty cool and interesting. But he teased it as if there was a ridiculously huge clue in the chapter that everyone missed. While waiting for the podcast I was really frustrated for not seeing what isn't even there.
Still the talk was very interesting.
Now I know what Greg meant and that I read this in the past… Still dunno if I would really like it...
And still I ask myself if the voice and breathe of all things are the same or at least related
Breath is essentially Kenbunshoku, it's just another name for it like 'mantra'. I wouldn't be surprised if kenbunshoku is called 'breath' in Wano.
Don't you find it suspect that while Oda has certainly received that question for the SBS, he hasn't addressed it yet?
I'm a bit disappointed by Greg's Momo thing. Sure the theory is pretty cool and interesting. But he teased it as if there was a ridiculously huge clue in the chapter that everyone missed.
If it helps you feel better, you all did. Except for two posters who suggested the idea but were promptly ignored.
yeah i have to admit when greg posted about how he figured out the meaing behind momos quote i really hoped for some kind of gag/ japanese wordplay being the answer.
Can I suggest this for a t-shirt print?
"I was hoping for a gag but all I got was this stupid connection that will link to the finale of the series."
If it helps you feel better, you all did. Except for two posters who suggested the idea but were promptly ignored.
Really? People disliked it that much? I actually loved that hint to more potential for the Voice. It opens up a lot of possibilities that I had not considered.
Praying Mantis would suit him better :)
I think Praying Mantis is what I had in mind, but grasshopper is what I thought it was called.
Thanks
Weevil will show up in the Nekoms searching for Marco storyline
Oda has clearly been trying to not have a normal cover story for a quite a while. Was he perhaps waiting for nekomamushi which I think is really likely.
I think both of the new world cover stories Caribou and Jinbei play a good role in world building and have some effect on the main story. The caribou one is probably even more important. Even though caribou is a fairly boring character, but his knowledge is quite important.
Oda has clearly been trying to not have a normal cover story for a quite a while. Was he perhaps waiting for nekomamushi which I think is really likely.
I think both of the new world cover stories Caribou and Jinbei play a good role in world building and have some effect on the main story. The caribou one is probably even more important. Even though caribou is a fairly boring character, but his knowledge is quite important.
Lol that would force the anime to cover that coverstory lol
@Long:
Lol that would force the anime to cover that coverstory lol
Why would they do that when they can do what they always do which is do filler that has nothing to do with the story that anime people think is cannon since they want the characters from the fillers to join the crew which makes even the craziest new crew mate suggestions including the ones posted in dumb predictions posted on the forums seem possible compared to their ones.
Most anime only people think that Blackbeard has a paramecia devil fruit,Magellan has a logia devil fruit,Trebol has a logia and i have even seen them say that Luffy is logia lol.
I think it's pretty clear if one considers the Momonosuke theory I outlined on the podcast. (Pretty good transcription Evo. A few bits here and there I didn't quite intend ((like the Goku thing)) but that must've been tough)
Momonosuke is probably literally seeing that creepy recollection of Doflamingo, not just recalling it from memory.
I think it's pretty clear if one considers the Momonosuke theory I outlined on the podcast. (Pretty good transcription Evo. A few bits here and there I didn't quite intend ((like the Goku thing)) but that must've been tough)
Momonosuke is probably literally seeing that creepy recollection of Doflamingo, not just recalling it from memory.
But, if Momonosuke is seeing Doflamingo there, then does Momonosuke see things that happened or see what Doflamingo was doing?
But, if Momonosuke is seeing Doflamingo there, then does Momonosuke see things that happened or see what Doflamingo was doing?
Could he? I think that's a bit OP and we know for a fact that this is a past event. I wouldn't claim to understand how Oda intends to expand on kenbunshoku and what the voice of 'All Things' is but I always thought it was a little strange how Momo's eyes went trippy there. It's one thing to be traumatized and another to literally see things and I believe that's exactly what happened there.
Can anyone point me to the moment on the podcast when the momonosuke thing is brought up? I don't have time to listen through the whole thing T_T
About the 44-minute point. Evo did a great summary but there are small details that I think perhaps make it worth listening to.
Also, I think I go into detail on something else (was it just the Wano thing? Can't recall) on Piece Together.
Thanks, just finished listening (where is Evo's summary btw?)
I liked the theory, mostly because it seems fresh and because it gives observation haki some more depth (I'm really not a fan of armament and observation haki at the moment, so I would love to see it become an important aspect of the story, and not remain just a power) I'm definitely going to keep it in mind.
@Dahaka.:
Thanks, just finished listening (where is Evo's summary btw?)
http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=24549&page=156&p=3613891#post3613891
Could he? I think that's a bit OP and we know for a fact that this is a past event. I wouldn't claim to understand how Oda intends to expand on kenbunshoku and what the voice of 'All Things' is but I always thought it was a little strange how Momo's eyes went trippy there. It's one thing to be traumatized and another to literally see things and I believe that's exactly what happened there.
Wasn't he "tripping" from hunger? I do recall him being hungry back then, that's why he ate Vegapunk's DF. Or am I wrong?Can't remember which page this was on.
Not eating for a long period of time would mess up your blood sugar levels,extremely low blood sugar levels also have as effect hallucinations.
http://www.diabetesaction.org/site/PageServer?pagename=tip_complications
Q: Can low blood sugar be causing my mother to have hallucinations? Once she gets her sugar stabilized the hallucinations decrease rapidly.
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Wasn't he "tripping" from hunger?
Precisely! Exactly the kind of extreme situation that could bring on something he couldn't otherwise do and also a great ruse for covering for the reality of the situation, liiiiiiike, "Oh, I met Roger." "No you didn't, stupid kid, stop being such a kid."
Alright, while seeing the mentors again would. Be awesome and heartbreaking beyond anything else on the manga, there is this weird line about the afterlife that he keeps on dancing about, with his unwillingness to kill bases on wanting death to have weight, how brook painted it in his duel with… Zoidberg shark man zeo, that dead is dead, and one Mr Hiriluk that people only die when forgotten . points that add the finality of death, and how the living can be the ones that carry the Will and remember the past.
While observation haki being able to pick up wills not yet carried would fit with the series, allowing people whose dreams and wills are already accomplished or carried, those who are remembered shouldn't come back, because they aren't gone.
Precisely! Exactly the kind of extreme situation that could bring on something he couldn't otherwise do and also a great ruse for covering for the reality of the situation, liiiiiiike, "Oh, I met Roger." "No you didn't, stupid kid, stop being such a kid."
I'm sorry but I find it hard to believe. Not that things have to follow the rules of science etc in a manga, but that would be reading too much into it, when there is a logical explanation for it.
We know he saw DD deal with his men, and that must have been pretty traumatizing for him. Then he went on for god knows how long without food, and so when that line popped up it triggered his memories, as well as the fact that his blood sugar was low, which caused him to hallucinate.That whole chapter emphasizes on his hunger and him being without energy, he is even seen about to faint when he heard Luffy say "Get ahold of yourself" just like DD did in before.
Isn't that the only instance when we saw him have such a hallucination? If so then we can't really compare it with something else.
We know he can hear the VOAT, just like Luffy can, but that's it, a voice. I don't think he could see memories before his eyes, and wouldn't that mean that he would need to have such memories to begin with in order to see them? Because that's what happened with DD.
I'm sorry I can't check the podcast atm. So I'm not that familiar with the theory.
I think the bit about Roger is that he might confused someone with him, namely Ace. And the Japanese spoiler as well as Viz says that he "met Roger's crew".
While observation haki being able to pick up wills not yet carried would fit with the series, allowing people whose dreams and wills are already accomplished or carried, those who are remembered shouldn't come back, because they aren't gone.
I agree. And this is why I said it sounded cheesy as I presented it. I don't know if that's exactly how it will play out or if seeing them won't necessarily be them now but a rewinding of their life.
I for one find the thought of Nami having a blatant mother-daughter moment with Belle-mere repulsive because they already shared pretty much the HIGHEST form of love that two people can express for each other.
So yeah. I get that. But I also think it will tie aspects of the plot together, be an amazing reward and be presented in a way that's classy.
I'm sorry but I find it hard to believe. Not that things have to follow the rules of science etc in a manga, but that would be reading too much into it, when there is a logical explanation for it.
And that, is exactly what Oda wants us to think.
as well as the fact that his blood sugar was low, which caused him to hallucinate.
Now see, that's what I would consider reading too much into it. Oda researching a medical condition for a throwaway scene or using Momonosuke, as he had time and again, to hint at future events?
We know he can hear the VOAT, just like Luffy can, but that's it, a voice. I don't think he could see memories before his eyes, and wouldn't that mean that he would need to have such memories to begin with in order to see them? Because that's what happened with DD.
Doesn't mean he'd have to have seen them if he's powerful enough. It's obviously not something he does on a regular basis, certainly not at will at this point.
You haven't heard my theory yet then I see. Well, no need to listen to the podcast, Evo did a good job of bringing together the main points, here: http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=24549&page=156&p=3613891#post3613891
And yep, I know what Stephen's translation says as well as the Japanese version. Please note he said 〝ロジャー達〟 which is indicates 'Roger and them' or 'Roger and his group' just as easily as it does 'Roger's crew' which is, albeit ambiguous, leads one to strongly consider it was Roger and a group.
Now, I'm putting my foot down and stating that this is what I believe but if Oda flips this around and it's something I didn't predict, nobody will be happier than me.
And that, is exactly what Oda wants us to think.
I'm sorry but I don't have access to Oda's mind, so I don't know its workings. It's not really his style I think, usually when he leaves a hint he does it and he doesn't need to hide it. If it really is like you said, then he failed because you managed to uncover it, wouldn't you agree?
So why go all this trouble to hint at this ability, if he's going to try to hide it, even though someone might get it?
Now see, that's what I would consider reading too much into it. Oda researching science for a throwaway scene or using Momonosuke, as he had time and again, to hint at future events?
So anything that deals with elasticity and other DF abilities that are based on physical phenomenons would be "reading too much into it" because it's not Oda's type to research scientific material?It's not even that huge of a scientific tidbit, anyone who knows how blood sugar level works, or just hunger and what it does to your body would tell you that you can get an hallucination if you don't eat for too long.Ever watched some anime or cartoon about someone who is so hungry he hallucinates about food?
And I wouldn't call it a throwaway scene, since that established the link between the samurai and Dressrosa,and DD.
You haven't heard my theory yet then I see. Well, no need to listen to the podcast, Evo did a good job of bringing together the main points, here: http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=24549&page=156&p=3613891#post3613891
Yes I've read that, I thought there was more to it, like how Momo would get memories of Roger. It doesn't look like Evo's post explains it. But either way while it's an interesting theory, I think we're simply forgetting about the revos role, and how they could have means to convey this information. Not just that but something like a live coverage like the one in Dressrosa where Fujitora performed the Dogeza in front of all these people, is possible. I see Fujitora as someone who doesn't follow absolute justice, so he might end up being on Luffy's side. He also doesn't agree with the WG's methods, in particular the Shichibukai system, so there's a chance he might side with what is right instead of following orders, which obviously he has no problem breaking.
So I would say it's possible that Luffy can manage to convey that information without the VOAT. I just don't see him be like Sonia from Berserk, invading people's minds to tell them how great Griffith and his demonic army are.
I'm sorry but I don't have access to Oda's mind, so I don't know its workings.
It's not like I do either ^_^ It just comes from having researched the work for about 15 years now.
It's not really his style I think, usually when he leaves a hint he does it and he doesn't need to hide it.
He doesn't 'hide'-hide his hints. They're always hidden in plain sight. Just like this. Go back to the first mention of 'Haki' in the series. No one could have assumed that back then, but in retrospect the name and concept were right in front of our eyes.
If it really is like you said, then he failed because you managed to uncover it, wouldn't you agree?
Oda is a genius. And also human :)
So why go all this trouble to hint at this ability, if he's going to try to hide it, even though someone might get it?
Oda likes to make a story that can be read over and over with new revelations accompanying every read through. He's setting us up for plenty (PLENTY) in this arc already. It's his thing, it's what he does and he's darn good at it! ^O^
So anything that deals with elasticity and other DF abilities that are based on physical phenomenons would be "reading too much into it" because it's not Oda's type to research scientific material?It's not even that huge of a scientific tidbit, anyone who knows how blood sugar level works, or just hunger and what it does to your body would tell you that you can get an hallucination if you don't eat for too long.Ever watched some anime or cartoon about someone who is so hungry he hallucinates about food?
Again, that's why I was careful in my wording. Would he go through all that trouble for a 'throwaway' scene specifically? Because that's what it would become if that's the case.
I think we're simply forgetting about the revos role, and how they could have means to convey this information. Not just that but something like a live coverage like the one in Dressrosa where Fujitora performed the Dogeza in front of all these people, is possible.
Haha, yes, that's where listening to the cast would come in handy. Evo mentioned a Goku-ish connection and I stated that it's similar but not the main point and I also strayed from saying it had to be the way of getting information across. I see it more as a means of waking the people of the world up. Whether that happens before the war or after the war I'm not sure.
He doesn't 'hide'-hide his hints. They're always hidden in plain sight. Just like this. Go back to the first mention of 'Haki' in the series. No one could have assumed that back then, but in retrospect the name and concept were right in front of our eyes.
Yes no one. So even with all the knowledge we had before the point where Haki was introduced properly, we wouldn't have guessed. That's one of the times where Oda was totally unpredictable yay!
Again, that's why I was careful in my wording. Would he go through all that trouble for a 'throwaway' scene specifically? Because that's what it would become if that's the case.
Well you go from the basis that it's a throwaway scene, when it isn't.It actually established the connection between the Samurai and Dressrosa, before Kinemon explained what happened to them, if I'm not mistaken.
Kinemon gives the explanation in chapter 700
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/One-Piece/Chapter-700?id=251141
While that scene with Momo and DD happens in chapter 685 I believe. So clearly it is before Kinemon explains why they were chased.
So it's not a throwaway scene imo.
Haha, yes, that's where listening to the cast would come in handy. Evo mentioned a Goku-ish connection and I stated that it's similar but not the main point and I also strayed from saying it had to be the way of getting information across. I see it more as a means of waking the people of the world up. Whether that happens before the war or after the war I'm not sure.
I'm not dismissing the idea completely.What if the VOAT has another use, maybe it will be useful for the One Piece, whatever it might be. DD also speaks of the national treasure, so maybe the VOAT would be more useful for that.