@Robby:
1)Not going to happen in a shonen title.
2)Thats the status quo of the entire Marvel U at this point, it feels like, and it SUCKS. Heros should be heroic, not dirtbags. Making them gritty or more realistic doesn't make them more interesting or better, it just makes them… not heroes.
To 1) I know that but I would still have liked to see heroes not being all that heroic once their cape is off and being more human and being human means having faults, sometimes even severe ones.
to 2)Have you seen Watchmen? I quite liked how Rorschach, Mr Manehattan and all the others got shown in that movie. We had crazy heroes, lesbian heroines, heroes who killed tons and tons of peoples in the war, a hero who raped or almost raped a fellow heroine, a hero who turned villian to protect humanity, killing a few millions to save the rest and so on.
I don't wanna see the same shit happening in BokuHero, that would be far too cruel. But I would like to see how flawed heroes are outside of their coustume/image in public.
In a sort of sense we are already seeing that:
AllMight is not the symbol of peace that is invincible but a human who was gifted this power and who will die due it and is in dire search of a successor. And yet it appears that he had no time to found a family or make many friends as we see only two figures when he speaks about best friends. That isn't bad per se, but it does show that All Might might have lead quite a lonley life and that midoriya might end up the same if his power starts to destroy his body. Which is already does though.
We saw their homeroom teacher as a uhm wormbag.^^;
And despite from his heroic image we got told about he seems hardly interested in being a hero anymore. Even the reporters cannot regocnize him anymore. We might to get see more such heroes in the future. Heroes with an alcohol problem, heroes who outside of her hero identity made tons of debts by gambling, heroes who are suffering under thier job as they do not have that much time for their family as if they had a normal job and always live in fear that a villian finds out their real identity and targets their family and so on.
@Bigivel:
! I totally don't agree with you! First there were more than the big 3 villains. Also don't forget that the school they're at is an elite school, probably the best school in Japan. The kids that entered the school have incredible quirks and skills already.
! The three big villians were the only ones who hurted ANYBODY. The shadow type was the guy who hurt that astonaut guy and the strong brain guy was the one who hurt their homeroom teacher and All Might and facepalm villian wasn't allowed to hurt anybody cause his power was to imba to get shown as he tears off limbs and faces.
! The rest of the villians was cannon fodder.
! About the school and the kids quirks - isn't this school the ONLY school in the country that is raising heroes as it is the only school with heroes as teachers? So far I have not heard of a second school that produces heroes, so this school seems to be a one of a kind school. Also no matter how elite this school is due its teachers or equipment - those kids have hero training for hardly a month yet
! they got shown to wipe the floor of the villian masses easily. Most of them got done in with one attack.
A quirk should not be everything to decide a battle else there would be no need for battle as All Might would just walk up and every villian would drop their weapons and go to the police station themselves to avoid getting beaten up.
In this school those kids used their quirks for the first time in tests like Uraraka with throwing a ball to infinity and what not. They had for the first time worked together with another quirk hero student to beat another hero team with their quirks and so on. Yet they had little to no trouble getting dozens of villians done in. Who mostly did nothing more villianous than grining evily and making threats, like the water ones.
! And then we get thewhole hero league walk up and the last two remaining supervillians are like fuuuuuuu-, let s run like biatches 'cause their whole army of a hundred villians had to that time already their asses handed to them by a bunch of school kids.
Twenty school kids in their first months of school captured nearly a hundred villians without any adult help. Why should those kids still go to school if they are already so succesful at being heroes? They probably just did in a year's quota of an average hero!
! I just wanted to see the villians be more villiany and more dangerous, so they felt more like a comedy troop with only three real villians who posed a real threat to the students yet were unable to hurt any of them as their teachers who both did not got killed by the villians who for some reason seems to have problems to kill heroes.
Really, what prevented muscle brain villian to snap quirk eraser hero's neck? Did he wanted to use him as shield? Nope. Did he wanted to use him for calling All Might over? Doesn't seem to be the case. So why did they not killed him to prevent him from using his eyes which prevented facepalm villian to tear off froggirl's face?
Mind you, not that I wanted to see THAT happening, but from the raw it just doesn't make sense to me why the villians seems so "harmless" towards the students as they can't even scratch them while at the same time the three big villians seems unable to kill two heroes for whatever reason.
! It was nice and good to see them being dangerous to All Might, but AM is the superhero who already got tons of injuries in duty of justice and who is the mentor of Midoriya and still has to give him his power so it was clear they wouldn't be able to kill him no matter what. If it had been now a random student then that would have had an entire different meaning. I don#t wanted to see dead students, but some who got injured by a villian, who might have gotten a broken arm for the first time in their life, who might have felt true bloodlust and death aura for the first time in their lives and got terroirized by that feel - something like that would have been great.
! Instead we got a bunch of students who even took the three big villians on and dealt with them quite nicely for not even being heroes yet…
! For me, after reading ch.20, the villians felt cheap and not all that dangerous if they can't even control a classroom of kids with quirks. That nearly all of the villians seems to have been captured by said classroom expect of the big three ones also speaks volumes of their power.
@Prismeru:
If you are into that you should read C.O.W.L. it's being published by Image. It's a good comic.
C.O.W.L.? What does it stand for?
@Bond:
! Well, like Bigivel said, this is the top school for superheroes. Just being able to make it in is already proof enough of their amazing battle potential.
For most of them anyway…I'm having a hard time picturing how Grapehead managed to get in.
But besides that, amongst the students are several quirks with potential for mass destruction. Kacchan and IceFire have already proved their worth in the Battle Trial, but Electro's quirk is also ridiculously strong (albeit hard to control) and Sharp Rocks' quirk is also pretty good for battle.
Mutant Octopus is both super strong and great at gathering intel on his surroundings. Falco hasn't shown much, but we've been hinted that he's fairly powerful or versatile due to how high he placed in Aizawa's quirk test. Weapons Girl has a really flexible quirk too.
Monkey Boy seems to have been transported to a fire hazard zone, and it doesn't seem like there were any villains there. Just his luck.
The map says that Falco and Thing are at the Storm Hazard zone. We don't know what's going on there yet...
! The worst injuries aren't even Deku's. Aizawa was practically pulverised and had part of his elbow disintegrated. All of the villains were focused on him and #13 since they're teachers. The rest of the villains were concentrated around four points. Earth Hazard (IceFire one shotted them all), Landslide Hazard (all defeated by Kacchan and Sharp Rocks), Water Hazard (defeated by Deku, Froggy and Grapehead), and Mountain Hazard (Electric Boy shocked them all save for one who's immune). Each group contains at least one member whose quirk could easily wipe out entire armies.
It's not too far-fetched to think the students could defeat them all.
! Again,isn't it the only school that produces heroes? I can't remember any other school being mentioned that got heroes as teachers or that produces "second-rate" heroes unlike the one Midoriya and co go to.
! Grapehead is just another reason why Eraser-eye teacher judgement seemed weird to me. You're telling me that an entire class last year was weaker/more cowardly/less heroic/had less effective quirks than Grapehead guy? Really? And now in this class all twenty of them have a chance to be a hero no matter what? That doesn't really say much for this teacher's judgement skill, it just feels random as "biep". <_<
! While the students got powerful quirks and each group had one who could cause massdestruction it still feels weird how couple dozens, what looked nearly likea hundred of villians, who all got their own quirks to hurt or injury or kill people had no chance to deal with a bunch of school kids. Those villians had years to train theri quirks or are villians for years, probably, if they all were beginner villians it would explain a lot why the student heroes were able to deal with most of them in one blow or two.
Still, if over a dozen adults with quirks had no chance of success against 3 or 4 children with quirks then there is no tension and is there is no threat from those villians if all their dozen quirks just are useless against the quirk of one kid. It just means that quirk > numbers, environment, strategy, etc. As long as you got the right quirk a dozen villians means nothing to you.
! And that sorta fight style annoys me a little. I loved the way how Deku fought Bakugou or how iida prepared the battleground by cleaning so that Uraraka had nothing to touch and such. Somebody who had no control over his quirk was able to beat somebody who seems to hav excellent control over his quirk simply by focusing on the goal, the situation and by using the right strategy. Seeing a battle where a weaker one has to use all his wits and knowledge and other stuff to counter a stronger opponent who wants to beat you up for his ego is far more intense than seeing a battle getting solved in one panel by a guy snaping with his fingers and all villians are frozen to statues.
And that's what mostly seemed to have happened the past chapters in the raw - groups of villians getting done in by kids before most of them even had a chance to use their quirks or do anything at all than stand around and look dangerous.
! Right, I forgot about the teachers, guess because I saw it as a given that they would get the most villian attention. Plus them being adults and heroes it makes sense to give them nearly all injuries to avoid having a student injured.
! I have no problem with the students fighting the villians to protect themselves and to survive, I got aproblem with how simply they seem to handle such matter and beat several villians at once with little action. They even had the three big villians partly under control, like that shadow guy, where no student seems to have gotten hurt badly.
! Maybe I am wrong and next chapter we get to see the other battles we don't know about yet but with the apperance of a whole league of superheroes and the retreat of the three big villians I doubt the small fry will stay around any longer, so i don't expect any student to be hurt by the villians. Expect for Deku who has hurt himself, again. For good cause though 'cause without him there would probably be no All Might anymore.
! I still would have liked to see the rest of the villians be dangerous and making their battles a real life and death experience for the students who never had a fight with villians before. Fights that would injury students and make them afraid of how battles will be like as adults, rethinking their decision to become a "cool hero" and rather want to return to a normal school for a more normal and less dangerous life-style.
But now those fights feel more like advertisy for the hero life style - come and be a hero, villians are weak, you can beat them up easily even if you are 15 years old!
That kinda stuff feels a bit lame to me as it takes out the meaning of the battle good (heroes) vs evil (villians) if evil is too weak to posses a real threat to good. If those kids can handle lotsa bunches of villians now already- what should stop them in the future?
! I really hope future villians will be more dangerous and harder to fight to the students else the battles I have to look forward are those between the students and their tests and not the superheroes vs villians ones. :/
