Omg. If Carrot gets added…We'll have a Bambi and Thumper on the crew lol.
Next Strawhat Crewmate (Vol. 6)
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Wow, the mink girl made it here already?
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@uniaka:
Girl ? check
Chopper s GF check
Unique fighting style among the crew check
Unique design too, except her hair reminds me a bit of sugar
Unique colour. TBA
Decent backstory. TBA
When these two fit too, we can get serious.
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Too bad the crew already has a furry human-animal, so she loses a lot in uniqueness.
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With Chopper having many different forms, he more than fulfil the requirement of a furry crewmate.
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She does look a fit for the 'little sister' role in the crew, so there's that, and she does seem to have some unique and effective looking
skills which is also important at this stage.
I'd give her 2 points so far. All we need now are Luffy's reaction to her, a dream and a past tragedy involving the death of a major figure in her life.It'd help if we'd seen her for more than a few panels but this thread is what it is.
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With Chopper having many different forms, he more than fulfil the requirement of a furry crewmate.
Nami already fills the big boobed girl category we dont need any other girls with big boobs.
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Nami already fills the big boobed girl category we dont need any other girls with big boobs.
Considering that most OP girls have big boobs, they're pretty much the norm.
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Considering that most OP girls have big boobs, they're pretty much the norm.
And Chopper isn't a mink, he is a reindeer with a human fruit.
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And Chopper isn't a mink, he is a reindeer with a human fruit.
Which ends up making him look like a Mink. And he is unique because of it, being considered a monster and everything.
Seriously, Look at Carrot's facial structure. Same as Chopper's. Both are anthropomorphic animals, the only difference is why. There's a reason we all believe Chopper will be important in this arc after all.
I mean, you can't seriously be comparing Nami and Robin with Chopper and a Mink. It's not like humans aren't the most common and dominant race in the world of One Piece.
It's like how I said before, you won't have a robot or a zombie joining the crew because we already have a cyborg and a skeleton to fill those niches.
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Which ends up making him look like a Mink. And he is unique because of it, being considered a monster and everything.
Seriously, Look at Carrot's facial structure. Same as Chopper's. Both are anthropomorphic animals, the only difference is why. There's a reason we all believe Chopper will be important in this arc after all.
I mean, you can't seriously be comparing Nami and Robin with Chopper and a Mink. It's not like humans aren't the most common and dominant race in the world of One Piece.
It's like how I said before, you won't have a robot or a zombie joining the crew because we already have a cyborg and a skeleton to fill those niches.
There's is a big difference between the two, one of of them have boobs you know? :ninja:
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Don't you think it's kinda racist that you think the minkgirl looks too similar too an actual animal?
People wanna marry Carrot. No one wants to marry Chopper. There's definitely some differences.
It's not like a qt bunny girl with cute hair will offset the balance of the crew because of an increasingly chibified reindeer/tanuki/bigfoot.
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Don't you think it's kinda racist that you think the minkgirl looks too similar too an actual animal?
Considering that the Monkey's name literally translates to "Very Much a Monkey", no.
And hey, let's not forget that the rabbit girl's name is based on her stereotypical favorite food. That's like calling a Japanese guy "Sushi".
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And so it begins…again.
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I would like to hear Robby's take on this one. I know is to soon to say anything since we just got a slight glimpse of her, but at least design wise I'd say she's got a shot.
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@uniaka:
Girl ? check
This doesn't really supports anything at all.
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Seriously, she's just a feminine version of Chopper until now…
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This doesn't really supports anything at all.
The last nakama is more likely a girl then a boy, since we have more then enough boys.
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And so it begins…again.
Give me some popcorn as well. I bet if carrot would be male some of the people here would give him a shot
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@uniaka:
The last nakama is more likely a girl then a boy, since we have more then enough boys.
If Carrot joins that makes Jinbe "the last nakama", and he's a male.
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@uniaka:
The last nakama is more likely a girl then a boy, since we have more then enough boys.
Oda already sucks with 2 women around and people as Shanks had by a single female in the crew (so far). There is nothing in the manga which is saying that the next one has to be a woman. The SHs female ratio is actually really good with just 2
Just say YOU want it to be a girl
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Oda already sucks with 2 women around and people as Shanks had by a single female in the crew (so far). There is nothing in the manga which is saying that the next one has to be a woman. The SHs female ratio is actually really good with just 2
Just say YOU want it to be a girl
Nah, I'm not even one of the girls for nakama fans, they don't even get proper fights, males shine all the time. I'm a Kanjuro fan.( even more after this chapter).
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I would like to hear Robby's take on this one. I know is to soon to say anything since we just got a slight glimpse of her, but at least design wise I'd say she's got a shot.
Robby will say no, she's not joining because she didn't meet Luffy first, doesn't have an interesting fighting style and so far we have no indication of tragic backstory or dream
though I'd guess if she did join her nationality would be china right?
she does have an intresting look I'll give her that, but she won't be joing…... plus monkey ninja
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Robby will say no, she's not joining because she didn't meet Luffy first, doesn't have an interesting fighting style and so far we have no indication of tragic backstory or dream
though I'd guess if she did join her nationality would be china right?
she does have an intresting look I'll give her that, but she won't be joing…... plus monkey ninja
The argument that Luffy didn't meet first is pretty lame IMO, specially since he was the first one to meet Chopper (even though he got Luffy after climbing the mountain he was pretty much passed out).
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I would like to hear Robby's take on this one. I know is to soon to say anything since we just got a slight glimpse of her, but at least design wise I'd say she's got a shot.
What is there TO take? We haven't seen anything yet. We're about to see a whole bunch of animal people. I'd be cool with one joining, but we already have Chopper so they'll have to really stand out.
Nothing about the designs so far screams "Oda spent a lot of time making this character design distinct in a way that will differentiate them for the rest of the series." If you can point out three-five really unique character design elements (Beyond "they're an animal person) that shows Oda really thought about their backstory, then we're talking.
Look at Chopper and he has things like the unusual hat, the broken antler, unusual body shape, and a blue nose (which is hard to tell in black and white.) ANd him being the first, being an animal person was unique for him. ANd he also had two different forms insantly… and then a bunch of forms pretty quickly within the first couple chapters of knowing him.
Franky had Popeye arms, metal nose, crazy eyelashes, ace ventura hair, three pronged chin, and a speedo... and started by doing a dance routine.
Brook is a skeleton with an afro that's dressed like a gentleman, and had a crack on his skull that uses a sword cane. That poops. Who Luffy asked to join after five seconds.
Jinbe has a specific tatoo, topknot, eye scar, unusual body shape, stripes in his hair, completely unique face shape, unusual clothing style.The earlier human characters are a little less unique initially due to them being early designs, but Nami gets by with just being a girl originally.. but has since added the tatoo, log pose, cimatact, and post time skip a certain style of dress. Luffy has the scar, hat, shorts and sandals (and now has an x scar on his chest) ... Zoro has a unique haircut, three earings, three swords (and now a scar). Usopp curly hair, armbands, long nose, armadillo hat, overalls and boots. Sanji has the hair swoop, curly eyebrow, kick attacks and suit. Robin had unusual eyes, haircut, and nose bridge (which have diminished and changed over time) and a clothing style and introduction that were really unique.
Carrot just looks like... what Oda would do if Oda decided he needed to draw a bunny girl. Outside of her being the first character to appear on the island, there's nothing about her screaming that much design thought. In fact, we still haven't gotten a clear shot of her. Just a minkman in action. If we see someone that's a legit candidate, we'll know them when we see them, they'll have backstory in their design. (And probably a splash shot and an introduction text box... but that's not requisite, Zoro and Chopper didn't get one, but were introduced in other ways.)
And other girl's main thing so far is "She's wearing Nami's clothes!" so she's definitely out.
As far as theoretical "we've only seen two panels of them" characters go, my money is still on three eyed girl given that she's still the only one in the series and how early on she was introduced in relation to the Big Mom story, even though she doesn't scream unique past the eye thing.
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Also almost every Straw Hat had significantly large panels when they were introduced that showed off most of their design. Carrot doesn't have that.
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A bunny girl isn't unique enough (design wise) to stand out inside of the crew? Does she really need to have dozens of unique features to her?
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A bunny girl isn't unique enough (design wise) to stand out inside of the crew? Does she really need to have dozens of unique features to her?
Check out the human reindeer features…
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If anyone is going to be a new Nakama, it's Baratie.
Tragic story of being taken out before even seen and letting his tribe down. Check
Will have the dream to take out Kaido as it was most likely his minions that caused this. He will need the Straw Hats in order to reach this goal. Check
Unique design? Hasn't been shown yet so that must mean he has a great design.Being serious though, is there a need to discuss this on very little that we have? It's one thing to like a character at their introduction, it's a whole different story to start claiming that they will be the next Nakama. The big question really becomes why make new Nakamas when these people can just become allies. For Oda, he can do some story but once he's finished an arc he can move on and not have to draw them for a while. There's also the fact that with the lead up to fighting all these factions, Luffy needs more power in numbers rather than individuals. The crew he has now should be plenty for the higher ups, with allies being helpful for mooks and lower tiered captains. I know someone pointed out in an interview that Oda said there would be more Nakama as time went on. I'm wondering, after this far in, if Jimbei is the only one who will actually join and all the rest that will be introduced will be allies. Oda is no stranger to changing his mind on things.
Until there is an actual strong candidate with good reason for us to believe to join, I'm under the assumption that we won't be meeting any new characters that will become crew members.
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Check out the human reindeer features…
Reindeer/Man
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Bunny/WomanSounds different enough to me. But seriously what did Robin had going for her when she first showed up? Did she really had an astounding first impression of her?
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A bunny girl isn't unique enough (design wise) to stand out inside of the crew? Does she really need to have dozens of unique features to her?
If you're going to ask the question at least read the reply.
Nothing about the designs so far screams "Oda spent a lot of time making this character design distinct in a way that will differentiate them for the rest of the series." If you can point out three-five really unique character design elements (Beyond "they're an animal person) that shows Oda really thought about their backstory, then we're talking.
Look at Chopper and he has things like the unusual hat, the broken antler, unusual body shape, and a blue nose (which is hard to tell in black and white.) ANd him being the first, being an animal person was unique for him. ANd he also had two different forms instantly… and then a bunch of forms pretty quickly within the first couple chapters of knowing him.
The issue isn't that they're both animal people. It's that there's very little thought about backstory put into her design. For Chopper 70 volumes ago, being an animal person would have been enough, but he still had way more than just that.
Carrot wasn't introduced as a major character with an establishing shot and intro box. She's cute sure, but pretty generic, considering two seconds later we see another girl with just as much effort in her design and a better entrance and establishing shot.
Carrot's not even on the level of Pekoms or Bepo for unique design. (Pekoms being a lion turtle with shades… Bepo for being a talking bear in an orange jumpsuit among a crew of humans. Unique in context... but not if he first showed up here.)
She's a bunny girl. What else can you gleam from looking at her? She... has some gloves to give her an offensive attack and... what else? Where's the scar, the unusual clothes, the unique body shape, the odd trinket, the old wound, the floppy ear, the eyes unlike anyone else's, the strange eyebrows or earings? She's pretty straightforward.
They don't need "dozens" of unique features... but they do need a couple.
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A bunny girl isn't unique enough (design wise) to stand out inside of the crew? Does she really need to have dozens of unique features to her?
She literally has the same facial features as Chopper.
Reindeer/Man
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Bunny/WomanSounds different enough to me. But seriously what did Robin had going for her when she first showed up? Did she really had an astounding first impression of her?
Mysterious DF power. Actual interactions with the crew. Large focus on introductory chapter (she literally stole the show) + more than half a page dedicated to showcasing her design. Heck, she even took Luffy's precious straw hat and wore it as a form of foreshadowing.
This all on a single chapter.
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She literally has the same facial features as Chopper.
Mysterious DF power. Actual interactions with the crew. Large focus on introductory chapter (she literally stole the show) + more than half a page dedicated to showcasing her design. Heck, she even took Luffy's precious straw hat and wore it as a form of foreshadowing.
This all on a single chapter.
Plus her nose style and eyes were completely unique, unlike any character in the series before or since. She's standardized a bit in the 15 years since though… and post timeskip her haircut became a lot more generic, (almost identical to Hancock's) but her facial structure had a lot of thought put into it.
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Plus her nose style and eyes were completely unique, unlike any character in the series before or since. She's standardized a bit in the 15 years since though… and post timeskip her haircut became a lot more generic, (almost identical to Hancock's) but her facial structure had a lot of thought put into it.
I'd throw in also the cowgirl outfit style she has (that hasn't appeared lately but it's been quite unique since her introduction)
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why does the bunny girl remind me of renka ma from history's strongest disciple kenchi or kagura from gintama??? I'm confused :sad:
is it that weird dress
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She literally has the same facial features as Chopper.
Ehm, no. She looks more like those angry snow bunnys on Drum. That's like saying the angry fighting face of Luffy looks like the angry fighting face of Zoro.
In terms of uniquenessness Oda even let go of Monet and Wicca as Nakama material. That's quite a high bar, imo. And it was a very long arc (Punk Hazard and Dressrosa). So it's time for a new member. Aslong as you don't count the new allies…
So, maybe not Carrot but another minkmen? I don't want to wait until Snakenecks appear
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I wouldn't mind seeing a minkmen join as a lookout. A lot of furry animals have great vision that allows them to see all around them without having to move. So far I don't think we have seen any candidate that I would nominate.
For example, humans have vision covering 160-210 degrees.
Rabbits, have a field of vision of almost 360 degrees. [source]
Reindeer can see ultraviolet light. [source]
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Oda didn't "let them go as nakama material". They never were to begin with.
I've said it before and I'll say it again… people latched onto Monet because she was cute, (while paying zero attention to personality or actions like POISONING CHILDREN) plus she was in an arc with other fusion people... and Brownbeard FAR better fit any criteria in terms of design and personality and loyalty to his friends and interaction with the strawhats than she ever did... but no one ever seriously discussed him as a possibility... because no boobs. Or the other handful of people with deer or horse bodies.
Yes, Monet had a good design. But once you get past the harpy part, where was the backstory and character and thought in her design? The scars, the accessories, the personalized detail, the unique face, the anything? It was a good design, making her a memorable looking character, but it was a symmetrical pretty bird lady, with no major thought in it. Monet being part animal was NOT unique, in an arc with others that had the same trait.
(The one real glimpse of a personality was when she was wearing glasses and studying astrology. If that had been a more regular part of her design, that would have been a thing.) Same goes for Perona and Hancock and Shirahoshi and Rebecca. (And Rebecca was a straight up Nami clone.) Good designs, but symmetrical and not telling anything about them beyond fashion sense.
People always point to "needs tragic backstory to be candidate" thing... but there's other factors that are more immediate, obvious, and intrinsic to the personalities that you can spot waaay sooner.
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well they'll definitely have a representative from each species to hone in the luffy unites people thing, and that he just cares about your personality not your looks (unless you look really fucking cool)
We've got Ideho (long arm) Blue Gilly (long leg) leo and his crew (dwarfs) Hajrudin and his crew (giants) Jinbei (fishman) and shirhoshia as ancient weapon end war (mermaid) now snake necks and minkmen are the last two we need representatives from so I don't see why people think it's ridculous to think we may see a new member here simply because chopper is furry too.
chopper doesn't mean no mink men can join the crew it just means one really has to stand out above the rest and we realize the bunny girl just doesn't hit the mark on this one
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I wouldn't mind seeing a minkmen join as a lookout. A lot of furry animals have great vision that allows them to see all around them without having to move. So far I don't think we have seen any candidate that I would nominate.
For example, humans have vision covering 160-210 degreeshttp://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png.
Rabbits, have a field of vision of almost 360 degrees. [source]
Reindeer can see ultraviolet light. [source]
Science. Really?
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well they'll definitely have a representative from each species to hone in the luffy unites people thing, and that he just cares about your personality not your looks (unless you look really fucking cool)
We've got Ideho (long arm) Blue Gilly (long leg) leo and his crew (dwarfs) Hajrudin and his crew (giants) Jinbei (fishman) and shirhoshia as ancient weapon end war (mermaid) now snake necks and minkmen are the last two we need representatives from so I don't see why people think it's ridculous to think we may see a new member here simply because chopper is furry too.
chopper doesn't mean no mink men can join the crew it just means one really has to stand out above the rest and we realize the bunny girl just doesn't hit the mark on this one
I don't see any Skypieans, or Shandians, or Birkans on Luffy's crew.
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Oda didn't "let them go as nakama material". They never were to begin with.
I know. That's why I said "In terms of uniqueness". I use a better disclaimer next time, sry.
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Ehm, no. She looks more like those angry snow bunnys on Drum. That's like saying the angry fighting face of Luffy looks like the angry fighting face of Zoro.
She looks nothing like the Lapahns.
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I don't see any Skypieans, or Shandians, or Birkans on Luffy's crew.
SHIT!!!~! I always forget about them,
well surely sky island will somehow get brought into the mix in the end war since the new world seems to have hundreds of them and no one uses the same way the straw hats went they said
so I'm guessing we'll have all three races aiding in the end war, and just about every place the straw hats have been aiding them in some way towards the end
…..... which means of course that zou might just be again one of those places where a whole island joins instead of a crew member or allied group..... now I made myself sad :sad:
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She looks nothing like the Lapahns.
We are talking over facial features here and she looks more like them as Chopper, come on.
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We are talking over facial features here and she looks more like them as Chopper, come on.
I have to disagree…she really does look more like Chopper...
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We are talking over facial features here and she looks more like them as Chopper, come on.
Yeah sure.
She doesn't even have whiskers.
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well they'll definitely have a representative from each species to hone in the luffy unites people thing, and that he just cares about your personality not your looks (unless you look really fucking cool)
We've got Ideho (long arm) Blue Gilly (long leg) leo and his crew (dwarfs) Hajrudin and his crew (giants) Jinbei (fishman) and shirhoshia as ancient weapon end war (mermaid) now snake necks and minkmen are the last two we need representatives from so I don't see why people think it's ridculous to think we may see a new member here simply because chopper is furry too.
There's a difference between crewmate and part of Luffy's armada.
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What is there TO take? We haven't seen anything yet. We're about to see a whole bunch of animal people. I'd be cool with one joining, but we already have Chopper so they'll have to really stand out.
Nothing about the designs so far screams "Oda spent a lot of time making this character design distinct in a way that will differentiate them for the rest of the series." If you can point out three-five really unique character design elements (Beyond "they're an animal person) that shows Oda really thought about their backstory, then we're talking.
Well that's it in a nutshell, isn't it. We already have a fur-bearing animal man and while she's vaguely distinct, she lacks that absolutely distinct Straw Hat requirement. Oh, that and she's only been in one goddamned chapter.
In addition to that, I seriously think we aren't getting anyone else that will be a full-on crew member. But I could easily be wrong there.