@Fire Fist:
Not really. Brook did the same thing. He accepted the offer, but he flat out told Luffy he couldn't join because of the situation regarding Moria and his shadow (though he didn't directly mention the reason at the time).
He ended up joining though by arcs end. Who ever didn't know Brook would join was Drunk. But I see your point.
LOL you're never gonna let this go are you?
Its early in Kinemon's introduction tbh none of us knew what he could or couldn't do, to suspect and theorize is not a crime ,but I do admit that I was wrong about my assumption.
But the Jinbe thing is totally different. Oda himself wants him on the crew. This is nothing I myself came up with ,I'm not some Perona hopeful I'm going by what I read and the only reason he postponed it is because of the obvious, Bounties.
Fact of the matter is Jinbe is unique ,just not what YOU consider as unique. Luffy considers him unique enough to join the crew.
Vivi never was asked to join the crew ,Luffy just sort of expected her to come along but she chose Alabasta instead.
Bon chan who everyone adores ,was never really asked either.
Jinbe was ,and not only that postponed his joining.
That is more unique then any recruitment we've seen so far.BTW I used Bon and Vivi as an example because you love to compare Jinbe's situation to theirs even though it's different.
Give me one personality trait that Jinbe has that isn't prevalent on the crew already.
Guys, I think this whole argument is just silly. Whether Jinbe changes the mark or not, he's still considered a member of the crew.
We'll have to wait to see if he decides to alter the symbol.
All this arguing is so idiotic and unnecessary!
Jinbe hasn't joined and Kinemons DFs nature has not been revealed yet. Until the point that those matters get confirmed by Oda everyone is on the same level of correctness.
And what's with all the Jinbe-Joining supporters yelling "haters! haters!" and the Jibe-not-Joining supporters yelling "fanboys! fanboys!" at every argument about Jinbe joining or not?
@The Jinbe-Joining supporters; Because people argument against JJ(Jibe-Joining) doesn't mean they all hate him! They may like him but not as a main character and more like a ally like Vivi.
@The Jimbe-Not-Joining supporters; Again because people argue in favor of JJ doesn't make them "crazy fanboys"! It's all like they think that Jimbe would actually make a good main character.
But as you guys already knew all of that I will let you go back to your pointless arguments.
@Superbear:
Give me one personality trait that Jinbe has that isn't prevalent on the crew already.
Stern sense of responsibility. No non sense attitude. He's the straight man ,pure and simple. With a hint of his own sillyness.
"The Night Is Dark And Full Of Terror"
@Fire Fist:
Mentioning Franky's stars is irrelevant and stupid, as the Franky Family was his family, and though they were in direct conflict with the Strawhats, they made amends and became allies. Different situation.
So, the same thing can't happen when the SHs will meet the Sun Pirates?
We don't know what kind of interactions will come out so we can't state beforehand that he needs to remove his tattoo before joining.
The "let the past go" argument is flawed either: as far as we've seen until now, Jinbe doesn't deny nor is ashamed of his past. Therefore I don't understand why he should remove the symbol that represent an important part of is life (the part which influenced him the most, I should add. His past as a former member of the Sun Pirates under Tiger's command is directly responsible of the character we see now in the manga [ choices, thoughts, ecc])
About the affiliation argument… Back in Impel Down Jinbe was introduced as a Shichibukai first and later on as captain of the Sun Pirates. Which means people tend to acknowledge you with your current affiliation, not with the past one. When he'll join (if) people will recognize him as a "Strawhat member who once was a Shichibukai and former member of the Sun Pirates", not the opposite.
Stern sense of responsibility. No non sense attitude. He's the straight man ,pure and simple. With a hint of his own sillyness.
So you just described Zoro.
@Superbear:
So you just described Zoro.
Zoro is honorable. But he is certainly with the nonsense. I'd say Sanji is more responsible than Zoro.
Zoro is like the serious version of Luffy.
"The Night Is Dark And Full Of Terror"
Zoro is honorable. But he is certainly with the nonsense. I'd say Sanji is more responsible than Zoro.
Zoro is like the serious version of Luffy.
Blowfish, come now.
@Superbear:
Blowfish, come now.
It's my opinion ,what do you want me to say? Zoro cares about strength more than anything.
Like the thing with Kinemon ,when did Zoro try to help him? After he witnessed his prowess as a swordsmen. Sanji just needed his story.
"The Night Is Dark And Full Of Terror"
It's my opinion ,what do you want me to say? Zoro cares about strength more than anything.
Like the thing with Kinemon ,when did Zoro try to help him? After he witnessed his prowess as a swordsmen. Sanji just needed his story.
Look at the video.
I saw it and thats just his First Mate mojo kicking in ,his pure and simple loyalty to Luffy.
Zoro takes Luffy's role as Captain the most serious ,thats what that scene said to me.
@Superbear:
Look at the video.
He has one isolated moment of seriousness and suddenly all of his works disappear? On a normal day he is one of the stranger straw hats to be around. Blowfish's point was that Jinbe is seriousness without that weirdness.
So, the same thing can't happen when the SHs will meet the Sun Pirates?
We don't know what kind of interactions will come out so we can't state beforehand that he needs to remove his tattoo before joining.
They've already met the Sun Pirates. Twice. The Arlong Pirates had several Sun Pirates on the crew, including Arlong himself. They met more Sun Pirates, again, when they encountered Macro and his goons. The only Sun Pirates that have not been hostile to the Strawhats (or humans in general) are Aladdin and Jinbe. That tends to portray them in a bad light when compared to Hody's actions and other recent events.
Those were former members of the Sun Pirates.
The Fishman Pirates and Macro Pirates existed before Tiger formed the Sun Pirates, and they joined his crew, out of loyalty to him from growing up together, where he was everyone's "big brother." After Tiger died, the Fishman and Macro Pirates left the Sun Pirates, whose membership consisted largely of Jinbe and the former slaves who wanted to forget their hatred towards humans. Of that group, only Aladdin is named. Jinbe was NEVER in charge of Macro or Arlong. Both groups split off of the Sun Pirates before he took command. The only Sun Pirate that Luffy's crew has encountered, is Jinbe.
And yeah, Arlong and Macro are hypocrites, that's part of what makes them so vile.
Yep, basically what Beowulf89 said before me. The SHs have yet to meet other Sun Pirates aside from Jinbe.
Zoro is honorable. But he is certainly with the nonsense. I'd say Sanji is more responsible than Zoro.
Zoro is like the serious version of Luffy.
Zoro can definitely be an oddball, but Sanji is just ridiculous. At this point, I would call him certifiably insane (par for the course in the SHs). Nami has stated multiple times that Zoro is the more responsible of the two… That being said, he is less serious than Jinbē, so there is a distinction.
Zoro is honorable. But he is certainly with the nonsense. I'd say Sanji is more responsible than Zoro.
Zoro is like the serious version of Luffy.
Each and evey member has issues of …welll...being crazy. But I have to disagree with the 'more responsible than Zoro'. It depends on the situation which is more responsible, after all Zoro would never say this, and yes Sanji was serious there=
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Each and evey member has issues of …welll...being crazy. But I have to disagree with the 'more responsible than Zoro'. It depends on the situation which is more responsible, after all Zoro would never say this, and yes Sanji was serious there=
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Lol? That was 100% for comedy purposes, just like Nami being able to hurt Luffy when she's mad at him, these things aren't meant to be taken seriously.
Yeah that's to be taken with a grain of salt - Zoro has vowed to kill, from what I recall, all members now multiple times for multiple reasons.
Each SH is reliable in his own sense. Zoro and Luffy for example are brainless tanks from time to time and in situations Sanji or any other SHs are the better choice. Sanji is thinking more than both of them. See Enies Lobby, Arabasta, Little Island and so on.
And where did Nami ever said Zoro is more responsible? He is beating him all the time as well for being an idiot and if anything she even seduces Sanji to get the stuff done as well. Both are idiots in their own way xD
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The Sanji/Usopp pic is contradicting itself after all… Seeing how Sanji saves Usopp's ass after all against Enel...
Zoro has AB blood (universal recipient), so blood transfusions for him aren't trouble at all.
yeah but he still needs blood or should have when he was torn apart by Kuma's bubble
Zoro somehow gets sliced every arc - I think how Zoro's body gets/creates replacement blood would be silly to explain now.
You are on a quest to become the Pirate Prince, and you decide your fate!
@400MillionBelis:
Zoro somehow gets sliced every arc - I think how Zoro's body gets/creates replacement blood would be silly to explain now.
There's no need to explain anything, really. We already know that Chopper can do blood transfusions.
Zoro is more responsible about the order of the crew. Which is why he didn't trust Robin immediately and never questions Luffy except when Luffy was showing weakness in his decision that he had made as a man. Sanji is more responsbile in smaller matter like trying to bring Zoro and Luffy back so they could leave for FI. There really is no argument for a pervert (Sanji) to be considered more serious than man who fights similiar to a samura (Zoro with honor/dignity and all that jazz)
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Zoro is more responsible about the order of the crew. Which is why he didn't trust Robin immediately and never questions Luffy except when Luffy was showing weakness in his decision that he had made as a man. Sanji is more responsbile in smaller matter like trying to bring Zoro and Luffy back so they could leave for FI. There really is no argument for a pervert (Sanji) to be considered more serious than man who fights similiar to a samura (Zoro with honor/dignity and all that jazz)
Agree, Zoro is the most responsible without a question. Every SH would give his/her life for the crew, but it seems Zoro is the only one who really goes "serious-mode" at times.
Agree, Zoro is the most responsible without a question. Every SH would give his/her life for the crew, but it seems Zoro is the only one who really goes "serious-mode" at times.
I think I'd add Luffy to that such as when he was happy to see Caimie to owning the Celestial Dragon
But Zoro is animated more than Robin is - I have never seen Robin become animated - she always has the same face only with different expressions.
You are on a quest to become the Pirate Prince, and you decide your fate!
@400MillionBelis:
But Zoro is animated more than Robin is - I have never seen Robin become animated - she always has the same face only with different expressions.
And her thing is pointing out the grimness of the situation and turns down anything the comic relief orientated like Big emperor. However she did have a good funny moment in assisting Luffy with his Chopper impression, other than that she doesn't really participate in funny situations aside from the occasional chuckle at the "We won" dinner party. However,we need another straight man because… yes. And we need more honor because these obviously don't count:
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Why do people not get that Zoro is ultimately almost as stupid as Luffy and really not a straight man character
Why do people not get that Zoro is ultimately almost as stupid as Luffy and really not a straight man character
The exact same can be said of every male in the Strawhats, yes even Sanji he DOES have moments of his own stupidity, just as much as Zoro
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Supporter of the "Fire-Cutting Style" theory. Sympathizer of the "Cerberus" theory.
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LOL loved that "what the…?" look Jinbe is giving there
Robin is ridiculously serious, to the point it's grim. I don't see any problem with Jinbe's seriousness if he joins.
You are on a quest to become the Pirate Prince, and you decide your fate!
@400MillionBelis:
Robin is ridiculously serious, to the point it's grim. I don't see any problem with Jinbe's seriousness if he joins.
She is more like emotionless but you're right.
Supporter of the "Fire-Cutting Style" theory. Sympathizer of the "Cerberus" theory.
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Emotionless, huh..
Well…err... most of the time.
Supporter of the "Fire-Cutting Style" theory. Sympathizer of the "Cerberus" theory.
Everyone else on the crew is just really abrasive. Besides maybe Chopper, who just hides.
The only thing this needs is a small fake tear in the corner of his eye.
Chopper is just cute :D
Jimbe would be perfect. We already saw his quirkeyness. Like wanna having a name for the plan of the operation in Fishman Island. He has a sort of serious humor. Like Robin who has her dark humor, Jinbe is going to more… dunno unexpected. You dont expect him to be humoric because of his serious nature. But tbh his personality is perfect in the Straw Hat team.
" I have created over a thousand blades. Unknown to death. Nor known to life. Have withstood pain to create many weapons. Yet, those hands will never hold anything. "
Jimbe would be perfect. We already saw his quirkeyness. Like wanna having a name for the plan of the operation in Fishman Island. He has a sort of serious humor. Like Robin who has her dark humor, Jinbe is going to more… dunno unexpected. You dont expect him to be humoric because of his serious nature. But tbh his personality is perfect in the Straw Hat team.
Yss, another who gets it! I've just rolled my eyes at those who say he's "too serious" to be on the crew. I know that's balony becasue the same was said about Robin. Jinbe is the character we expect to be striagt-laced and monotone in the serious then BAM! he makes a comment out of the blue that shows he has his own brand of quirks and someone on the crew is annoyed at it and reacts as they do with other crewmates .
I almost feel like Oda kept Jinbē from joining, because it would have made Punk Hazard too crowded.
We have Law, Kinemon, Smoker, Tashigi, AND Brownbeard. That's a lot of allied characters for one arc.
I almost feel like Oda kept Jinbē from joining, because it would have made Punk Hazard too crowded.
We have Law, Kinemon, Smoker, Tashigi, AND Brownbeard. That's a lot of allied characters for one arc.
I don't think that's the reason. What's the point of Jinbe joining later if he thinks its gonna be crowded? Then don't make anyone else join the crew in the first place.
I don't think that's the reason. What's the point of Jinbe joining later if he thinks its gonna be crowded? Then don't make anyone else join the crew in the first place.
There are already too many big shots on Punk Hazard, agree with TCS there. Having another (former) warlord running around would be overkill.
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