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    • maxterdexter
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      https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/call-upon-international-community-urge-full-recount-votes-be-done-venezuelas-presidential-elections/0MNp0Bys

      –- Update From New Post Merge ---

      As I said in the general news thread, we lost, but by a very small margin, and after the tally of the oposition called our triumph.

      The same day we asked for a recount because such small margin, differing with the reality seen on the urns, with a CNE very partialized to the goverment is suspicious, Maduro accepted, but today he retracted.

      Then, we are going to make noise untill we get our damned recount, they not giving us the chance to do it only makes it a lot more suspicious.

      So, in order to make some more noise, I ask thee to fill this petition, or call me an idiot for faling for some spam thing.

      When some people have a hold of all the powers, all the resources, almost all the media, all that is left is to make some noise.

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      • Rogues' Gallery
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        @maxterdexter:

        When some people have a hold of all the power, all that's left is to make some noise.

        Let's bang some pots and pans

        opens kitchen drawer

        Originally Posted by MDL

        Someone married their stepmom and then got murdered?

        Sounds like he used a monkey paw to make a porno story come true.

        Then the curse of the paw eventually killed him.

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        • Monkey King
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          Done, yeah, it is standard procedure in lots of democracies to do recounts with margin of error shit.

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            Hmph. We'll just whack 'em with our big stick policy whilst washing off Kim's blood off our hands. We're the new Prussia, apparently.

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            • Monkey King
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              @Davy:

              Hmph. We'll just whack 'em with our big stick policy whilst washing off Kim's blood off our hands. We're the new Prussia, apparently.

              Big stick policy created Chavez, and is also terrible.

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                @Monkey:

                Big stick policy created Chavez, and is also terrible.

                …And that's why I just got this AP level book for free on Latin American politics.

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                • Mr M
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                  Made an account just for this

                  Originally Posted by Kitsune Inferno

                  You are a treasure.

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                  • maxterdexter
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                    Thanks everybody, it's getting there.

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                    • No Maam
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                      I don't think I can help but good luck to y'all, even if I'm my usual sceptical self.

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                      • Nex 0
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                        Signed and shared via facebook/twitter.

                        Good luck.

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                        • maxterdexter
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                          Thanks for all 300+ that saw this thread, and extra thanks to those who signed.

                          We got to the mark, but if you see this, please sign, making noise is the only thing that we (Venezuelans) can do right now.

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                          • MetaMario
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                            A little late, but signed anyway. Best of luck.

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                            • maxterdexter
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                              Things are going to get unfun: http://caracaschronicles.com/2013/04/17/last-days-of-venezuelas-cold-civil-war/

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                              • Señor Snake
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                                I hope things turn out for the best for you people. Just this morning I heard of the bloody fight in the congress of Venezuela.

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                                • maxterdexter
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                                  There was a fight, and there was blood, but the true issue is that they aren't recognizing the congressmen elected under opposition votes as they "Don't recognize Maduro as President".

                                  All this thanks to Venezuelan congress president, Diosdado Cabello, notorious Chavez cronie, soldier, who has used the socialist revolution to get ahold of many capital ventures, and the man who almost was where Maduro is right now, one of the top level minions of the deceased.

                                  The theory is that he was Chavez top choice, but the Castros convinced him to use Maduro, as he's more maleable, but I think that Cabello agrees with the decision, as his shady business could come more into the spotlight like that, and he has plenty of room to steal where he's at.

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                                  • maxterdexter
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                                    4th day of bashing my pot lid with a blunt knife, the lid makes a bell sound, instead of the flat "plat" sound of the actual pot, I think that should make more noise, but maybe I'm stuned by the noise.

                                    The Electoral council has been around 8 hours debating what to do with the suspicious evidence given yesterday by Capriles' entourage. I hope that he has more than he has shown, the evidence is strong, and in any democratic country would sufice (Come on, someone with a red shirt voting with people, claims of opo withnesess being expeled from the center at gun point, that one center who had a 98% turnout, and 100% for Maduro, while last elections it had a regular 80% and around 20% for capriles) but right now they need numeric evidence of fraud, that the tallies don't match the acts or the transmited data, but if they have that, they haven't shown it, but it would be the silver bullet.

                                    It is insane to ask for a recount when there was around 1% of discrepancy, and with the list of incidents on top of it?

                                    3DS FC: 0516-7666-3837

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                                    • Monkey King
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                                      @maxterdexter:

                                      It is insane to ask for a recount when there was around 1% of discrepancy, and with the list of incidents on top of it?

                                      No, politically shady African countries have done better than Chavez's thugs have.

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                                      • maxterdexter
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                                        Keeping people updated, the CNE (Electoral Council) agreed for an audit for 46% of the tables.

                                        The day of the election the witnesess and participating citizens have the right to audit a 54% of the tables, the distribution is:
                                        All Tables from 1 and 2 table centers
                                        2 Tables from centers with 3 to 5 tables
                                        and so forth, after 10 tables, they only audit 5 of them

                                        This is acomplished talling the 3 factors of the election, the Notebook, that has the total number of voters by table when you vote you sign it and place your tumb print, the box, that has all the balots, and the machine's recipt, that prints at the end of the day and is the same data that's sent to the CNE, when those 3 tallies match, under the eyes of men and gods, then there's a guarantee that the table is clean.

                                        What's the issue with this mechanism, getting the other 46 with the 54 that is already there shouldn't give the 100%? Not exactly.

                                        1.- There are centers in those 54 that weren't audited, or that were but without witnesess from the Capriles camp
                                        2.- The centers from where the new boxes come, are from big centers, big centers means cities, where Capriles already won
                                        3.- There's a lot of time left to try and alter a bunch of stuff, because the revision is going to be allong a whole month
                                        4.- They didn't specify exactly what the audit entails, if it isn't the whole 3 part revision, then it could be tampered (planted boxes, with an easy to print recipt and no notebook for example)
                                        5.- The 54 audit on the day, it's done by the people who has already expended their sunday in the long and arduous process of the election, that's explaining from about 300 to 600 people how to vote, mantaining order, not moving from their post, eating shitty food, going to the bathroom in a flash, many of the places are going to be unconfortably hot, and the whole process goes from 5 am to 6pm, and then go and do the audit? They cut corners, almost no one (myself included, sadly) either isn't aware of the extent of the audit, or cuts corners whenever they can, so I (and a lot of other witnesess) don't count the book.
                                        6.- The worst point of them: the other side of 2, if Capriles won on the big centers, then maduro had to win in the small ones, those with 1 or 2 tables, those who are supposedly already audited, and so, won't be checked again. The irregularities should be in those votes.

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