Darn fine chapter.
I hope that when the series resumes we get to see some other denizens of the One Piece world before we have to deal with the Strawhats again.
Darn fine chapter.
I hope that when the series resumes we get to see some other denizens of the One Piece world before we have to deal with the Strawhats again.
I think he'll have a bit of all but it may be the colour of observation that he specialises in, it sort of (tenuously) fits in with the "breath of all things" deal he had when learning to cut steel as they are both sensory types. He may also have some conqueror constitution, Rayleigh as a first mate does, Ace did and probably other first mates of top crews do.
The "breath of all things" seems like imbuying haki onto the sword to me, so would be the armor colour right?
I agree that Zoro will probably get all 3, but not so sure for the rest of the crew.
For anyone worrying about someone getting One Piece within the two year period, don't be. People have a pretty good idea of where the treasure is, the real problem is beating everyone to get to it.
CP9 ain't shit.
In case you missed it the battles with the Shichibukai were hard fought and won by the skin of their teeth, Crocodile had three hard fought battles and the entire crew were needed to finish Moria. That's without even looking at how Kuma absolutely raped the crew like nobodies.
Luffy didn't hold his own, he got battered by Vice Admirals easily, he was also doped up on hormones that will fuck him up for the rest of his life.The rest of the crew (barring Zoro) are even worse, can you imagine fucking Usopp or Nami or Chopper in the war? They'd be mutilated in seconds.
In case you missed it like 5 Supernovae crew have been pwnd already. It's no piece of cake.
and if you ask me i think akoji will just abandon the whole warlord thing althogheter since they lost so many already. i mean jimbei and hancock have given up warlord status, crocodile and blackbeard ARE no longer warlords
Aokiji doesn't control shichibukai, the World government does that. Marines have no jurisdiction over the privateers.
He escaped.
but isent marineford the worldgovernment? and since aokiji is going to be the new fleet admiral meaning hes the new man in charge. and when did he get owned by the vice admirals? i dont remember that. i remember luffy beating up a bunch of marines and at one point saying they were strong but nothing more.
Awesome end to this chapter in the straw hats story, and now we wait for a new adventure to begin. All the revelations and what not were great as well, glad we finally know the reason garp's love punches caused luffy so much pain. Man those four weeks are probably gonna feel like 2 years to us as well
I cant remember and dont know if this was mentioned already, but have we ever saw Gold Roger's flag?
@Tamaki:
when did he get owned by the vice admirals? i dont remember that. i remember luffy beating up a bunch of marines and at one point saying they were strong but nothing more.
Momonga and another VA were totally kicking him around.
so is the OPverse have years that are made up of 48 weeks? Cause I don't really get the whole 48 seasons thing in that case.
Well, 48 weeks x (1 month/4 weeks) = 12 months. Yep. Pretty much the same with real time.
CP9 ain't shit.
In case you missed it the battles with the Shichibukai were hard fought and won by the skin of their teeth, Crocodile had three hard fought battles and the entire crew were needed to finish Moria. That's without even looking at how Kuma absolutely raped the crew like nobodies.
You say this but you're forgetting that Lucci gave Luffy a hardcore beating that he would have lost if Usopp hadn't been there to pull him out of his funk.
I repeat, Lucci beat Luffy so hard that he contemplated quitting.
The CP9 were no pushovers.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb21710/common/skins/common/blank.gif
Momonga and another VA were totally kicking him around.
could i have a link to the chapter thats in?
The "breath of all things" seems like imbuying haki onto the sword to me, so would be the armor colour right?
I disagree, colour of armour seems more like brute forcing, and it has particular implications for devil fruit users. This doesn't account for Zoro cutting inanimate objects like steel swords. To be able to cut anything in the world, the implication was you cant just "level up" and cut stuff, you have to listen to it, mantra-like.
If you disagree I would like to see your reasoning, by all means please.
I agree that Zoro will probably get all 3, but not so sure for the rest of the crew.
Yeah agreed here, Usopp will likely get armour along with Franky, particularly as we've already seen its application in projectile attacks, I'm not too sure about Nami, Chopper or Brooke. I think Robin will probably have observation.
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/98271344/18
in the forth where luffy puts his hat the tree looks very fimilier …... hmm in One Piece STRONG WORLD :D
@Tamaki:
could i have a link to the chapter thats in?
http://www.mangareader.net/103-41586-10/one-piece/chapter-567.html
The scene in question.
Maybe you should give the war a re-read, dude. :P
@Tamaki:
but isent marineford the worldgovernment?
No, Marineford is the headquarters of the Marines, who are the military arm of the World Government.
and since aokiji is going to be the new fleet admiral meaning hes the new man in charge.
Yes, but he is in charge of the Marines, not other arms of the World Government, like the CP9 or the shichibukai.
and when did he get owned by the vice admirals? i dont remember that. i remember luffy beating up a bunch of marines and at one point saying they were strong but nothing more.
He got thrashed by Momonga and that unnamed dog VA.
You say this but you're forgetting that Lucci gave Luffy a hardcore beating that he would have lost if Usopp hadn't been there to pull him out of his funk.
I repeat, Lucci beat Luffy so hard that he contemplated quitting.
The CP9 were no pushovers.
Let me clarify: CP9 ain't shit in the grand scheme of things when we consider that Vice Admirals were dealing with Luffy like he was a nobody. Hell, we've seen the large number of VAs about, and we also know all of them know how to use haki. Lucci didn't, implying he's not high on the totem pole.
@Zach:
I also urge all you good One Piece fans to follow Kaiolino's lead as he reads all of One Piece in four weeks. It'll hopefully provide you guys a chance to catch up, if you haven't, or a chance just to refresh after this chapter.
SUUUUUPER good idea, Zach!
Wow, what a brilliant way to end the old age and bring in the new! The scions of the old generation are fostering the promising players of the new! Trafalgar Law is the only other crew with the brains to do something similar. Coby is being reared to be Luffy's nemesis in the years to come.
A four week break to make it feel like two years have passed.
And we are left with the mugiwara, alone on a rock.
Pure poetry! All hail Oda!!!
You say this but you're forgetting that Lucci gave Luffy a hardcore beating that he would have lost if Usopp hadn't been there to pull him out of his funk.
I repeat, Lucci beat Luffy so hard that he contemplated quitting.
The CP9 were no pushovers.
Actually, Luffy was almost always at a level above Lucci, they only seemed equal because of the double-edgedness of Luffy's techs. He also wasn't at full power when he fought Lucci. True though, Lucci beat him up real good.
Great chap.
Mihawk training Zoro sucks balls but I understand Oda had to show the lengths of Zoro's new resolve, conviction, dedication to his captain/crew and I guess dream.
Haki explanation was really good and I really do expect to see more big shots in the NW use it a lot more and of course the crew (4 out of 8)
I disagree, colour of armour seems more like brute forcing, and it has particular implications for devil fruit users. This doesn't account for Zoro cutting inanimate objects like steel swords. To be able to cut anything in the world, the implication was you cant just "level up" and cut stuff, you have to listen to it, mantra-like.
If you disagree I would like to see your reasoning, by all means please.
Well, my reasoning is basicly based on this page: http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/98271344/15
Where Rayleigh explains that the armor colour is what allows him to touch logia users (bypass the DF defense) and can be imbued into armors (which is what I assumed Zoro did).
Yeah agreed here, Usopp will likely get armour along with Franky, particularly as we've already seen its application in projectile attacks, I'm not too sure about Nami, Chopper or Brooke. I think Robin will probably have observation.
I dont think other than the Monster Trio will get Haki.. Also i guess Zoro would be cool with Colour of Observation becuase Logia types(which can be fightes with Colour of Armor) will most likely be villains for Luffy anyways. But well, Zoro having all 3 Haki types isn
t that far fetched in the end.
BTW does anyone else thinks that the Straw Hat is in one of those trees from Strong World?? Look at the pic, there is one tree that seems different and that island where Luffy trains reminds me of Strong World
Damn, 6 pages in and you guys are already arguing about dumb shit?
Well, my reasoning is basicly based on this page: http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/98271344/15
Where Rayleigh explains that the armor colour is what allows him to touch logia users (bypass the DF defense) and can be imbued into armors (which is what I assumed Zoro did).
That leaves a big hole, which was Zoro "listening" to everything around him. Remember the theories floating around that Zoro had used a form of mantra there? Which is what, incidently, the Skypieans call colour of observation.
Ahhh what about Sunny.
I think oda owned some people with the message explained to perona like that.
the chapter gave quality info to get everyones theories going wild for 4 weeks. It's going to be amusing.
Fuck off you non-entity.
You butthurt and I wasn't even referring to w/e you were babbling about.
Well I'm glad haki was finally explained. Before this chapter you could only really theorize based on it's practical displays. I'm glad that Luffy will still need to grow even after learning the basics of haki for two years as he'll slowly strengthen specific colors to become stronger. I'd prefer Luffy to specialise in the color of armaments as it seems to suit his fighting style more but we'll see what Oda has in store.
I knew the timeskip would happen, everything was pointing towards it. But now I'm just loving how it was all orchestrated. I mean not having a timeskip would make alot less sense. I'm just anxious to see how each member changes and grows stronger after the timeskip.
With regards to the Zoro being trained by Mihawk. I'm not too fond of it, but i can see how it makes sense and could be defended. Mihawk could still be Zoro's last obstacle, but it wouldn't be a contest of malice, but between student and teacher.
The month gap sucks, but i understand the reason behind it. Not just a creative break but also to share the sense of skipped time with the readers.
That leaves a big hole, which was Zoro "listening" to everything around him. Remember the theories floating around that Zoro had used a form of mantra there? Which is what, incidently, the Skypieans call colour of observation.
That's why I think he can get all 3 kinds.
He might have already used the colours of observation and armor on Alabasta, so all that's left would be the conqueror.
@Low-fi:
Awesome chapter. I bet if Zoro learns that Observation Haki then he might actually be able to find his way around without getting lost in future, lol
Actually, that's a good point. He'll probably have little aptitude in that one, but will have the color of armor down pat.
I am totally in on this "re-reading the entire series" thing. I'm sure there will be a lot of stuff that we've missed.
Does anyone remember any moments where Zoro might have used something even remotely like intimidation (the Ou Haki?)?
Ahhh what about Sunny.
I think oda owned some people with the message explained to perona like that.
I guess Franky could be the one who actually goes back to Shabondy a bit earlier to modify the TS a bit (when not Kuma send her to Maryjoa already or something like that)
Digging out my spoiler thread theories..
Zoro's focus should be armor.
Zoro has always been a tank. He can walk into a thresher, and walk out. That's the kind of person he is.. don't tell me "nothing happened" wasn't a form of Color of Armor.
The "breath of all things" is more suited to Armor, as I'm guessing it's tied to "sensing" the texture and mass of an object. Training naturally he would use this, and it's in perfect sync with his ability. Eventually he'll be could almost like Whitebeard and be able to take enough punishment to put down a small army, or take down a small army.
Sanji's will be Observation
Sanji's fighting style is super agile, smooth, suave and high velocity. He's easily the most acrobatic SH. He will master Observation IMO. As a cook he has natural sense on what will taste good and is able to make a bucket of crap taste like a gourmet meal. This shows that he is highly perceptive. He's also been shown to be perceptive to peoples needs and knows how to tell them what to hear. His natural fighting ability is more geared towards movement, acrobatics, grace.. it's based on capoeira.. a fighting style where it's very hard to land any direct blows. Remember trying to hit Eddy from Tekken 3? Sanji will most likely spend most of his time on Kamebakka dodging the legions of trannies trying to put him in dresses.. dodging women he can't hit who've been converted.. so by the end of it, he'll be untouchable.
Though.. they will both. And when they get back together.. and they fight, they can spar and squabble which will this time help them in their training maybe.
They will both learn some of the other.. Sanji will armor up his kicks but wont learn body armor so much because he'll dodge.
Zoro will learn how to block incoming attacks better but not to a level where he'd be untouchable because he'll be more focused on being armored and physically destructive.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-41586-10/one-piece/chapter-567.html
The scene in question.Maybe you should give the war a re-read, dude. :P
i am. via shonen jump magizine that is. i actually havent seen anything past skypiea to impel down yet becuase im waiting to get the graphic novels from the speed up. but i just dont have the money right now. though i DO know the important stuff like kuma, the strawhats being seperated,robins flashback and the admirals. is there anything else even single chapter to look forward to?
Momonga and another VA were totally kicking him around.
yeah but he took a ton damage before hand too
i want to know how many soldiers of each rank did luffy defeat during the war obviously no admirals, but I'd want to know how many vice admirals he beat, or if he beat any
@Tamaki:
i am. via shonen jump magizine that is. i actually havent seen anything past skypiea to impel down yet becuase im waiting to get the graphic novels from the speed up. but i just dont have the money right now. though i DO know the important stuff like kuma, the strawhats being seperated,robins flashback and the admirals. is there anything else even single chapter to look forward to?
Pretty much the war itself and just about everything following it contains important info.
Seeing as how there's a month before the next chapter, you've got plenty of time to acquaint yourself with it. :P
Excellent chapter, albeit a huge cocktease.
Being an ardent HXH fan makes this four week break seem like nothing. Should breeze right through it.
I wonder what crazy ideas will Oda do with these three types of Haki. I mean, armor haki is probably what allowed Marigold to set herself on fire. Imagine what other uses it could have! Is this how Thunderlord Makugai/MacGuy surrounds his blade with lightning, for instance? Are there other uses to Conqueror's color than just intimidate (I always assumed that other emotions other than fear could be instilled, and that's how Hancock was able to charm people around her, for instance).
So maybe Arlong did use the Color of Armour and imbued it in the water which he attacked Zoro and Sanji with.
Absolutely fantastic chapter. I'm so excited for the time-skip now:)
The best part about the Haki explanation is that Haki isn't like reiatsu or Ki or Chakra or shit like that. It isn't some super energy, people who are super powerful don't have large amounts of it. It's just a power that lets you use different techniques no more, no less and I find that awesome. The power of the techniques you develop depends on you:) Oh and I'm calling it now, Rokushiki is a form of Haki.
@Bartholemew:
So maybe Arlong did use the Color of Armour and imbued it in the water which he attacked Zoro and Sanji with.
Fishman Karate is probably different than haki, but who knows. Although rayleigh did specify "humans"
P.S. This chapter had the best cliffhanger in the entire series.
I wonder what crazy ideas will Oda do with these three types of Haki. I mean, armor haki is probably what allowed Marigold to set herself on fire. Imagine what other uses it could have! Is this how Thunderlord Makugai/MacGuy surrounds his blade with lightning, for instance? Are there other uses to Conqueror's color than just intimidate (I always assumed that other emotions other than fear could be instilled, and that's how Hancock was able to charm people around her, for instance).
Luffy will have JFK intimidation haki.
Pretty much the war itself and just about everything following it contains important info.
Seeing as how there's a month before the next chapter, you've got plenty of time to acquaint yourself with it. :P
no i mean BEFORE the war. basicly everything from water 7 threw sabadony. iv read everything the magizine has shown becuase i subscribe and have been subscribed to them for like 7 years straight back when they still sand land in the magazine but i havent seen anything outside the magazine because i cant buy the graphic novels. and as you can tell i havent been able to get any from the speed up. in fact the only one piece graphic novel i have is volume one.
P.S. This chapter had the best cliffhanger in the entire series.
reminded me of this cliffhanger^^
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-441/page017.html
@Tamaki:
no i mean BEFORE the war. basicly everything from water 7 threw sabadony.
You're asking what's important in that time span?
@Thousand:
Absolutely fantastic chapter. I'm so excited for the time-skip now:)
The best part about the Haki explanation is that Haki isn't like reiatsu or Ki or Chakra or shit like that. It isn't some super energy, people who are super powerful don't have large amounts of it. It's just a power that lets you use different techniques no more, no less and I find that awesome. The power of the techniques you develop depends on you:) Oh and I'm calling it now, Rokushiki is a form of Haki.
It's exactly like the force, that's why it's better than reiatsu, ki and chakra.
I like how Oda made an effort to specifically have Ray say after learning all of the types it's based on what you're skilled and unskilled at that'll allow you to come up with your own creative uses. Not some this is weak to this crap.