I know what's going on!! Shanks ate the Tokage-Tokage no Mi after leaving Windmill Village
461: ''The Curtain Rises on the Battle! Ace and Whitebeard's Past''
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I know what's going on!! Shanks ate the Tokage-Tokage no Mi after leaving Windmill Village
Or Robin was sneaking around with Shanks and used her powers to give him an arm.
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Or Robin was sneaking around with Shanks and used her powers to give him an arm.
huh thats funny man
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wb new laugh wasn't exist in ep 416 when he met shanks
but its amaizing
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they really did it!
They fucked up the most epic entrance ever
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I was pretty pleased overall. Thought Iva's new VA did alright. Big shoes to step into after all. I agree that Shank's arm is a relatively minor error along the lines of the missing hook on Croc that Oda himself managed–in other words so biggee. I missed it first time through due to reading the subs anyway.
*When looking back at the manga pages, you can see the shiney stripes of a bubble like thing on the Moby Dick--can't tell if the splashing is the bubble or the water they moved in coming out though.
*I have a slight problem with them changing Ace's character somewhat. Ace never said in the manga that he had an ambition to be Pirate King, and I don't think he ever did want to–and he never raged on to Shanks about wanting to be world famous or anything else like that. He had different ambitions. I think it's a pretty major change, myself, and I don't like it--partially because it changes who Ace is a charcter but also because throughout the manga one of the things about Luffy that sets him apart in that he does have that ambition–and that is an important plot point. Minor stuff I don't mind them changing, but this touches on the heart of some pretty big stuff in the story.
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@I:
*I have a slight problem with them changing Ace's character somewhat. Ace never said in the manga that he had an ambition to be Pirate King
This problem was actually created in the Arabasta Arc filler when Ace did say he wanted to be Pirate King in the anime :/
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Well wouldn't you know it , Toei actualy remembers something they did in a filler ? The world is comming to an end , mostly they can't remember vital plot points mentioned within the same arc .
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Really well done episode, The pacing was great in this one. Just another bad cliffhanger. Still a great episode.
The animation was so-so. But the overall art was good.
@ Whitebeard's laugh.
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This problem was actually created in the Arabasta Arc filler when Ace did say he wanted to be Pirate King in the anime :/
He didn't in the manga.Yes, I recall that too. It is just so contrary to his whole attitude and problem internally with Gol D Roger as his father, though. It's part of Oda's subtlety at it's best in character building. (sigh) Guess it's not worse than what they did to poor Sanji though.
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Seeing how pointless that "event" became I realy have to question if their only intention was to realy make people watch the ep cause of "controversy" , ya know , cause the fans got pissed off ? :P
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@No:
Seeing how pointless that "event" became I realy have to question if their only intention was to realy make people watch the ep cause of "controversy" , ya know , cause the fans got pissed off ? :P
Yeah, if they're smart they can easily fix that saying it was a nightmare or something.
Regarding Iva's voice…he sounds perfectly fine (and similar to Norio) in his first line, i think it just goes weird when he starts whispering to Luffy.
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Thing is they aren't smart , they probably will forget it ever happened and never mention it again….which will then go right up TV tropes' entry for "B.L.A.M."
Yeah I saw Ice Hunter and stil am buthurt , put a fork in me .
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Am I the only one who thought that Marco and Thatch looked like Homosexual Life Partners in this pic?
That look on Marco's face as he watches Ace gaze at the stars is…
......Extremely Disturbing. :ninja:
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No, you weren't the only one.
At least Vista was saved from it.
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Yep it was like they inteded to…you know
And there's also the Ace eating part...:/
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The animation and WBs laugh :/ disappointing.
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@Mr.333:
Am I the only one who thought that Marco and Thatch looked like Homosexual Life Partners in this pic?
That look on Marco's face as he watches Ace gaze at the stars is…
......Extremely Disturbing. :ninja:
This made my day.
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weird how i thought thatch always looked the most stupid and gay commander out of all the whitebeard pirates, and yet in the anime he now looks like a cool guy
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I liked the episode, and the animation was excellent.
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Yeah, even though I like Nakatani's drawings, the actual movement was pretty poor.
I felt that Whitebeard's entrance and certain parts of the flashback could've been handled a lot better. I like what they were going for with the flashback, beginning very rapidly and then slowing down once Whitebeard came into the picture, showing his importance in Ace's life, but it seemed very cut and paste and not carefully directed.
Also, I have to agree with many in that where they ended the episode sucked. It wasn't even a cliffhanger, more like the middle of a conversation before the meaningful line is even uttered.
I thought Iva's new voice was just fine really. Not quite as subtle but Iva is a pretty outrageous person anyway.
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After going back and re-reading the next chapter, I'm actually pretty thankful that Toei ended this episode where it did, because next episode would've been terrible if they only covered 553 without the end of 552.
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Episode was just average, they could have handled Whitebeard's entrance much better.
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Worst Laugh Ever
I can't believe what they were thinking when they thought that laugh was anywhere suitable for Whitebeard…absolutely horrific.
It definitely takes away from Whitebeard's badassness and I fear for the future episodes.
Damn! Someone dropped the ball big time on that one.
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This problem was actually created in the Arabasta Arc filler when Ace did say he wanted to be Pirate King in the anime :/
He didn't in the manga.if i remember correctly he said he wanted to make WB the king and not luffy (in anime ofcourse)
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if i remember correctly he said he wanted to make WB the king and not luffy (in anime ofcourse)
I thought he said he wanted to make WB the king and not Luffy too, so I went to check and you and I were correct
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And there's also the Ace eating part…
:/
I actualy realy liked that simply because we saw Ace as not this "serious business" guy he was acting like after BB killed Thach .
Oh and Thach looked kinda distorted to me :/
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Well, aside shanks' s arm…(i'll go with that Robin-was-there theory;])
I really looked forward to see Shirohige entrance, since it could underline encirclement of the WB ships (like him staying in front of all those lines and saying, "shit, a lot of work today")
So, to put things short, I wanted this scene to be "This is IT".
....hell.
Then was Whiteberad's laugh...couldn't he just read gu-RA-RA-RA? It would be thousend times better.
And then- his devil fruit ability. I expected some "harder" soudns, but whatever...also the cracking effect, it just sucks. Just dark lines 'd do much better.
But no, I'm not gonna bash this episode. Thatch was, of course, presented very well, also there's a lot of BB for BB fans.
Hell, I', not gonna even assess this episode! It had so many terrific, flat faces (teach, again), cliffhanger out of my ass, Marco's shirt was pink...Yes, Marco, his pinky shirt and very specific behaviour. I am simply not able to think what wicked man is this episode really doing. -
Why Whitebeard sounds retard when laughing? I dont get it :(
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He sounds like he ate Mario and is trying to cough him up :/
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@No:
He sounds like he ate Mario and is trying to cough him up :/
And that was the word what I was seeking, yes. And damn, Shanks arm grown back okay.
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And that was the word what I was seeking, yes. And damn, Shanks arm grown back okay.
The only downside is now Shanks turns into a man eating lizard monster every new moon .
Damn those acursed gama rays . :ninja:
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@No:
The only downside is now Shanks turns into a man eating lizard monster every new moon .
Damn those acursed gama rays . :ninja:
Or other little gay things in this epside. One of the worst ones. Whitebeard is lame in anime.
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meh, I'm liking WB's laugh. It grew on me.
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I chortled at the Ace-attempts-to-assassinate Whitebeard parts. It's been such a serious arc the change in mood was quite welcome.
And the change after that back to tragic where Teach killed Thatch… :(
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@No:
He sounds like he ate Mario and is trying to cough him up :/
That is a brilliant description.
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Nice, but he's missing those fabulous shoes.
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Wasn't Whitebeards laugh better before? and voice overall. Is it a new voice actor? I remember when he laughed at Shanks for saying something and started talking about Blackbeard, he sounded really really awesome. Now he sounds a bit retarded when he laughs. Looked a bit weird as well…
And Marco as well... he sounds like a 17 year old. I don't remember that. Kinda reminds me of Ichigo's voice.
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Whitebeard still has the same voice, but this is the first time they're trying the ''Gurararara'' laugh. Before he just laughed normally.
Marco's voice reminds you of Ichigo because it's the same seiyuu (assuming you didn't know).
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Whitebeard still has the same voice, but this is the first time they're trying the ''Gurararara'' laugh. Before he just laughed normally.
Marco's voice reminds you of Ichigo because it's the same seiyuu (assuming you didn't know).
ah, I thought he used guarara before. Bah, I at least hope the animation gets better, his face did not look alright, a bit too stoned. I can't wait to see what he looks like when Sengoku says "to destroy the world". I hope that isn't spoiler…
oooh, I didn't know that :D
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I must be one of the few who finds Whitebeard's laugh okay…I think it fits him as an old man
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I must be one of the few who finds Whitebeard's laugh okay…I think it fits him as an old man
Yeah, I agree–he just sounds like an old man with a lot of phlegm in his throat. It's gross but it happens.
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^ yo thats tight man
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See, this is why i don't really mind FUNi skipping out on some unique laughs. Some of them just sound laughably forced and lame.
Like Whitebeards.
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@Baron:
I didnt see it in the manga but watching the anime I realized that the homoeroticism amongst the Whitebeard pirates is quite strong.
LOL–well people tend to see what they want to see, or at the least what they have had suggested to them. :ninja:
Do I need to say the anime ain't cannon? If it ain't in the manga, it ain't true
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marco is gay now cause he wore a pink/purple shirt?
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