I just created my 2nd embarassing thread, and I want to delete it, but I can't
Could we be able to delete threads… please? :<
Deleting Threads
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If you're creating the thread then you have the time to not screw it up.
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It could be a mini-rule like:
"If no one posted on it yet, you may delete it"
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Live with your disgrace.
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NEVER s
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You know, that would be pretty useful. However, I think it's best that people learn from their mistakes, instead of covering them up. One day, you will also have something to laugh about.
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You could ask a mod/admin to do it.
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I honestly agree with this suggestion. If your thread sucks and you know it sucks then what's the point of "learning from your mistakes" when you've already had the epiphany that, "Man, this thread fucking sucks". So all it is is another chore for a mod that has to delete it. You could argue that people would constantly create and delete threads then but I doubt it since members have the option to delete their own posts and people don't seem to use the delete function nearly that often. Besides, if there are no replies then it should be fine and that would be a fair condition.
Keep Arlong Park clean and all that jazz.
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Bad threads are funny though.
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You have all the time in the world to think about what you want to write.
Many users here are mostly lazy. They have an idea get excited about it and want to post it on this forum without checking anything. The netiquette simply doesn't work with anime teens (from my experience here).
Who here knows how harsh mailing-lists can be if you don't take the time to add enough informations to the questions you ask and don't even bother to be coherent?
How many threads end up as chatrooms? :( -
I agree with the op. That option would be useful. It's the same thing as the delete post option. From time to time I use that button after I've written a message that doesn't make sense/doesn't belong into the given discussion/or is simlpy offensive.
If you have created a thread that you think is so terrible that you want to delete it before even one person has responded to it, then it probably really IS that bad and you've already learned your lesson.
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@Uncle:
I honestly agree with this suggestion. If your thread sucks and you know it sucks then what's the point of "learning from your mistakes" when you've already had the epiphany that, "Man, this thread fucking sucks". So all it is is another chore for a mod that has to delete it. You could argue that people would constantly create and delete threads then but I doubt it since members have the option to delete their own posts and people don't seem to use the delete function nearly that often. Besides, if there are no replies then it should be fine and that would be a fair condition.
Keep Arlong Park clean and all that jazz.
But what if you make a really bad thread (like a thread about horse porn? Yeah, that's a good example.), you get some views and after some time, you notice a moderator has finally logged in and will soon delete your thread, as well as lay the perma-banhammer on your ass. So you immediately delete your thread (by now, plenty of lulz were had) and bam! No evidence! Then what?
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But what if you make a really bad thread (like a thread about horse porn? Yeah, that's a good example.), you get some views and after some time, you notice a moderator has finally logged in and will soon delete your thread, as well as lay the perma-banhammer on your ass. So you immediately delete your thread (by now, plenty of lulz were had) and bam! No evidence! Then what?
though i am against the whole suggestion. but about delete. but when you delete you post. its invisible to you and rest but mods can see it and even restore it. its there. only a mod can physically remove post from forum.
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i dont know of any VB mod/plugin which will give user access to delete his thread. so it will have to be coded from scratch, which isn't worth it -
Yeah, mods can see edits and deletes. Whether they are posts or threads.
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Want to delete your thread?
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No thank you
I would be power reliant and ban everyone who dared to argue against me :devil: -
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Wait….
I can delete my own posts?
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Damn it.
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@Sea:
Want to delete your thread?
Try to become a mod.Kukukukukukuku.
Wait….
I can delete my own posts?
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Damn it.
Yes. It's next to the edit button on your own posts.
Again though, mods can still read deleted posts.
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So, if I keep posting weird stuff and then deleting them, I will be effectively spamming the mods and yet they would have no reason to ban me?? I think I may have found a loop hole… :devil:
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So, if I keep posting weird stuff and then deleting them, I will be effectively spamming the mods and yet they would have no reason to ban me?? I think I may have found a loop hole… :devil:
I do it frequently.
Type something like: You can never know what I typed here, Robby. and then deleted it. -
I know you're seeing this, Robby.
But Sea totally doesn't.
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When a thread is closed/deleted by a mod I think the mod who thought it necessary to close it should inform the creator as to why.
2 Reasons.
1 The person won't spam the other mods with questions they don't have the answers to.
2 The person will know what not to do next time.
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When a thread is closed/deleted by a mod I think the mod who thought it necessary to close it should inform the creator as to why.
2 Reasons.
1 The person won't spam the other mods with questions they don't have the answers to.
2 The person will know what not to do next time.
How did you not know your thread was vaguely defined crap.
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So, if I keep posting weird stuff and then deleting them, I will be effectively spamming the mods and yet they would have no reason to ban me?? I think I may have found a loop hole… :devil:
A loop hole that the mods will be aware of.
We don't HAVE to explain why we ban someone. We try to be courteous, but we don't have to.
@Uncle:
I know you're seeing this, Robby.
But Sea totally doesn't.
What was that now?
When a thread is closed/deleted by a mod I think the mod who thought it necessary to close it should inform the creator as to why.
2 Reasons.
1 The person won't spam the other mods with questions they don't have the answers to.
2 The person will know what not to do next time.
If your thread is closed, assume its because it had problems of some sort. Be it redunancy, trolling, or just a plain stupid topic bringing out the worst in people.
Usually if there's already something similar they'll get merged.
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Mingo above all else why are you even mad about such a forgettable thread getting closed.
YO LOL, VOTE FOR BIGGEST BADASS (I SUGEST THE GOAT!)
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ah! ehat is this~ my contribution!
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@robbybedfart:
A loop hole that the mods will be aware of.
But a loop hole nonetheless!!
We don't HAVE to explain why we ban someone. We try to be courteous, but we don't have to.
I know you can ban anyone without reason, but if someone doesn't break any rule and you ban him/ her, its immoral, and also kinda cool…
But still, if you do something like that, I will gather up a bunch of hooligans and bring AP down!!
Oh and about Mingo22's suggestion, I wanted to bring that up too. I think if mods explained the reason why a certain thread is closed, it will help educate people.
I created a thread while ago http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=27929 and it was closed. I am still not sure why, but if someone had told me the reason, I think it would have helped me choose better topics next time…
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I wasn't the one who did the deed, but upon reading… this is what I think. Even though it's all in good fun, discussing about when a site tells you you're going to die is probably a little too morbid for people's tastes, lol.
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I wasn't the one who did the deed, but upon reading… this is what I think. Even though it's all in good fun, discussing about when a site tells you you're going to die is probably a little too morbid for people's tastes, lol.
Oh? Well I am sorry if someone took this negatively. Anyway, thanks, this is all I wanted to know. And for the record, I am not complaining or anything. I just honestly think it would be better for the forum if the reason for closing of a particular thread was revealed. I mean I know some threads clearly break the rules, and others are plain stupid (probably most of mine included, thanks for letting them stayed open by the way), but now that I know such a thing is frowned upon, I will be careful in the future not to repeat this.
In short this helps!!
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I think the process is quite simple: if a thread has a solid and clear purpose, will bring good discussion and not just 1 cent comments or spam, and doesn't already exist, it shouldn't get locked or closed. If a thread gets merged with another thread, it should be sort of self-explanatory. If it isn't, I have seen many cases where the mod or admin in question made a comment to explain why it was merged. If the thread gets deleted, well, that's usually because of spoilers, spam, or something else equally bad. If it gets closed then chances are it broke a rule, already existed, or wouldn't bring productive discussion; basically what I said in the first sentence.
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It's a good loophole they should keep.
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I think the process is quite simple: if a thread has a solid and clear purpose, will bring good discussion and not just 1 cent comments or spam, and doesn't already exist, it shouldn't get locked or closed. If a thread gets merged with another thread, it should be sort of self-explanatory. If it isn't, I have seen many cases where the mod or admin in question made a comment to explain why it was merged. If the thread gets deleted, well, that's usually because of spoilers, spam, or something else equally bad. If it gets closed then chances are it broke a rule, already existed, or wouldn't bring productive discussion; basically what I said in the first sentence.
Now I understand all that, but the problem arises in the "for fun" or "game" threads. Like take "what is the avatar above you thinking" thread. It doesn't break rule; ok, it doesn't already exists, right but does it bring productive discussion? I don't think so. There are a lot of threads like this in the general discussion or general one piece forum. In short not every thread is meant to bring productive discussion, some are just there to be fun.
So, when some thread like such closes, the reason it does is not always clear.
@JERK:
It's a good loophole they should keep.
It's eliminated posters who didn't technically break rules but were unbearable.What loophole?
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So, when some thread like such closes, the reason it does is not always clear.
I'd sooner question why the other threads still exist, haha. But seriously, people should be able to deduce why their thread. Speaking from experience, when a mod gives a response or reason, the thread starter just end up PMing said mod to complain or defend themselves. Wouldn't you say the non-explanation makes people think harder the second time around than getting a single specific reason to avoid in the future? Anyway, I'm not saying "no, we shouldn't ever give reasons", I'm just saying most of the time we don't because of the reasons listed above. In many cases, we have, and we do give reasons.
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Problem is that the ones who create dumb threads, do not show the capacity to deduce the whys of things. Look at our friend mingo here, amazing how he thinks he's been treated injustly.
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I'd sooner question why the other threads still exist, haha. But seriously, people should be able to deduce why their thread. Speaking from experience, when a mod gives a response or reason, the thread starter just end up PMing said mod to complain or defend themselves. Wouldn't you say the non-explanation makes people think harder the second time around than getting a single specific reason to avoid in the future? Anyway, I'm not saying "no, we shouldn't ever give reasons", I'm just saying most of the time we don't because of the reasons listed above. In many cases, we have, and we do give reasons.
Well if you mods and admins have to deal with complains and stuff I can understand why you wouldn't do it. I always thought the person who is going to complain is going to complain nonetheless. If you give reason, s/he will complain to that specific mod or admin. If you don't s/he will complain to all the mods and admins. But, I don't have experience with these type of things so I will take your words for it.
While I do disagree with you on the "not giving reasons will make people think harder" thing because in my opinion not giving reasons just make people frown and complain and make even stupider threads in the future because for all they know, threads are closed randomly (Many a times two similar threads on different topic have different survival time).
Anyway, that's your call.
Problem is that the ones who create dumb threads, do not show the capacity to deduce the whys of things. Look at our friend mingo here, amazing how he thinks he's been treated injustly.
I know, thats why we need reasons!!
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I disagree with you on the "not giving reasons will make people think harder" thing because in my opinion not giving reasons just make people frown and complain and make even stupider threads in the future
Problem is that the ones who create dumb threads, do not show the capacity to deduce the whys of things.
Eventually these people lose the ability to create threads. It sounds harsh, but you are both right… some people just don't understand what makes a thread worthwhile, don't take the time to search the forums for similar threads, don't put enough effort into being clear in the title or description, don't think in general, etc, etc. Eventually they might learn or get better, but typically they don't; if they cannot deduce why their thread is locked, they probably shouldn't be opening a thread in the first place. On the rare occasion a decent thread gets locked without reason, the user can always PM a mod or admin and the question of "why?" should get answered relatively quickly.
Again, I'm not saying "no, we shouldn't ever give reasons", I'm just saying most of the time we don't because of the reasons listed above. In many cases we have, and we do give reasons.
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@Sea:
I do it frequently.
Type something like: You can never know what I typed here, Robby. and then deleted it.actually he can.
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actually he can.
mods/admins can see what older version of post was before editHe knows, we were talking about how typing random stuff and deleting them effectively spams the mods/ admins without breaking any rules…
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I think it's best that people learn from their mistakes
The voice of hypocrisy shows itself…
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Brennan is the only person I see adhering to this unspoken mod code. He may keep saying "we", but he really means "me". Well, to be grammatically correct, he actually means "I", but that doesn't rhyme.
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I made a serious mistake too. i posted a thread accidentally while I was trying to get my sig to work. I received a very strong warning. I hadn't meant to publish it. I'm all for this option. It will keep others from being near banished like i was.
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There's also the situation where someone creates a thread, but an older thread like it already exists. An honest mistake, really.
But then again, mods usually merge threads in situations like that.