Attack on Titan: Why Genocide Is Sometimes Kind of Okay

MiyamotoMusashi

I don't know if it was just me, maybe it was. But this chapter finally, finally(!) made me actually feel and connect with a character in this series. Most of the time I see them as distant, weird, borderline sociopaths who I can't connect with, and that's affected my enjoyment of the series since the beginning. I like the story progression and all of that, but the characters themselves… I don't know. But this chapter made me reflect on the evolution of the series and the interactions between Reiner and the others, the double life they led and the duality of how the continentals look at the islanders and how the islanders look at themselves. It finally ressonated with me. It's been a long time coming. Now I feel like I'm ready to read the final conflict.

Cool that someone else felt that way. Rainer and Berthold really lived a shitty life.

Kizuchan

Yeah, the new chapter was great in terms of further humanizing the warrior side. I think the only character I'm pretty indifferent towards at this point is Levi. I was more so before we learned about him, but he's still my least favorite of the main characters. He's just "fine" as a character, has some great action scenes, though. So, I already really liked the warriors, but this chapter really did a great job in exploring all of them. Even small things like Annie leaving without Reiner and Bertholdt or Bertholdt offering his hand towards Reiner were great details.

This week's episode was also great. It was basically a page by page adaption of chapter 48 and 49 with all the great moments in (mostly) great animation with Sasha added in there. There were more stills than usual, but at the same time those stills looked solid art-wise and the episode still had some really great looking/well animated scenes.

Mr. Luffy

So Season 3 is confirmed for 2018

https://twitter.com/anime_shingeki/status/876069445692645376

Which would suggest they are planning to do another single arc season, and probably Season 4 right after in 2019 if it does well enough and presumable a Season 5 afterward which will cover the present arc as it will likely be finished by the time a presumed Season 4 happens.

I personally think the series is about 3/4 of the way done so it might even be finished, or close to by then. Hard to say for certain though.

Of course, the big question on peoples' minds is whether or not the Uprising arc will be a self-contained season or combined with the Return to Shiganshina arc. The Uprising arc took a major risk in being mostly Titan-less, save for the final climax. Marketing-wise, it might be better for them to combine the two.

In that case, a Season 4 may involve a longer wait

–- Update From New Post Merge ---

There's a preview of the upcoming Season 3. Seems to strongly indicate it will consist of 2 arcs and at least be 2 cours long.

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Devil G.

The finale was well made. I'm glad they're already announcing the next season.

Mumbo

I'd be fine with a single cour every year until the series is finished. But if they did the Uprising arc on it's own as a single season you probably won't see a whole lot of people come back for Season 4.

So yeah I think two cours next to cover up until the end of Return to Shiganshina. Then a Season 4 once the manga is wrapping up (can't be more than around three years left in its run at this point) to finish the series.

LordPerucho

I hope WIT Studio pull a Lierche and cut off a lot of the Uprising Arc, because in that arc is when Eren was at its worst.

Eren unlocking the power to control titans looked much better in the anime.

black-leg jex

I'm covinced the reason season 2 is only 1 cour is that if it was 2 it would end with the uprising arc and would feel anti-climactic. This latest episode is better than pretty much anything in the Uprising arc and would feel sour. Doing that as the beginning of Season 3 and ending on the Return to Shiganshina arc makes more sense.

Heavenly Demon

I'm really hoping they don't just have Uprising Arc be season 3. That would be meh. But seeing the Return to Shiganshina animated would be amazingggg. Would make for a much better end to that season than Uprising. You could end it on them seeing what's in the basement or going to the sea…either way...it would make for a great ending of another season.

allbluebro

@sgamer82:

I think it's original + 8, but there is one missing. If I have the ones we've seen correct it's:

Rogue Titan (Eren)
Colossus Titan (Bertholt)
Armored Titan (Reiner)
Female Titan (Annie)
Dancing Titan (Ymir)
Bestial Titan (Zeke)
Pack Mule Titan (Unknown)
Founding Titan/Coordinate (Reiss Family > Grisha > Eren)

So if nine total there still is one left.

What happens if a male eats the "female titan"?
(Asking for a friend)

sgamer82

@allbluebro:

What happens if a male eats the "female titan"?
(Asking for a friend)

Gender Dysphoria would be my first guess.

allbluebro

@blue-san:

Spme stuff interesting to me is:

1. Werent Eldians supposed to have 7 out of 9 titans first?

But beast, armoured, colos. and the mule one?

2. If Titans powers can be absorbed and even stacked… doesnt that mean that once one of the 9 eats another the powers will stack except if after 13 years powers get split again to different people

3. If Eren has the coordinates.. or rather if he can use them, without the bloodline...and the fact Dina was the trigger...Eren's train of thoughts and so on...is he justified to be fearing for Historias life?

4. Is 13 years period really justified? Can it be bypassed?

5. What is the real meaning behind titans? Or is it really just magic, religion etc, Attack on Titan shape of the world?

Just a theory… If a shifter obtains another shifter power what if the time that shifter had left to live is added to the new user or even an additional 13 years? There are lot's of loop holes, it get's a little Death Note'y thinkin about all the possibilities.

maxterdexter

There is no dancing titan? (Uncertain question) The dude who inherited it is more of a "jaws titan". I still don't fully get it, but it is certain that is the same titan power.

sgamer82

@maxterdexter:

There is no dancing titan? (Uncertain question) The dude who inherited it is more of a "jaws titan". I still don't fully get it, but it is certain that is the same titan power.

My originally quoted post was from back when Dancing Titan used to be the nickname for Ymir's Titan before it was confirmed via Galliard's that Jaws was the proper name. Much like how Eren's Rogue Titan is now the Attack Titan.

pariston_hill

https://imgur.com/a/xmoRd
Final titan reveled and what a depressing backstory for Reiner.

Cyclone_Baroness

I'm a tad confused. Ymir ate that guy as the jaw titan. But wasn't the jaw titan shown back in Marley? Or was there a long time gap?

sgamer82

@Cyclone_Baroness:

I'm a tad confused. Ymir ate that guy as the jaw titan. But wasn't the jaw titan shown back in Marley? Or was there a long time gap?

Ymir ate Marcel, the original Jaws Titan, became Jaws herself, then was eaten by Porco who, back at that time never got a Titan.

Hajro

TFW a 40+ page chapter feels shorter than an average one piece chapter. Did anything actually happen in this shit lul

Torao

ha! so now ymir has normal teeth.
the sharp teeth, the "power" of the jaw titan, which could be seen in the first flashback, where she ate marcel have been replaced and were a mistake, as i thought.

So i was wrong with my one piece prediction this week, but about the SnK one i was right:ninja:

Satsuki

@sgamer82:

Ymir ate Marcel, the original Jaws Titan, became Jaws herself, then was eaten by Porco who, back at that time never got a Titan.

Wait, so Ymir is dead?

auem

Ymir is definitely dead.I think this Taybar family is the one who taught Marley how to fluidise titan power(to be injected).

sgamer82

@Satsuki:

Wait, so Ymir is dead?

Yes. It was confirmed a couple chairs l chapters ago when we met Porco and Pieck (Pack Mule Titan) as humans for the first time.

Satsuki

Damn. How did I miss that?

pariston_hill

Wasn't Galliard the new Jaws Titan?

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sgamer82

@pariston_hill:

Wasn't Galliard the new Jaws Titan?

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Yes. Porco is his first name. I was using it since I was also mentioning his brother Marcel.

pariston_hill

@sgamer82:

Yes. Porco is his first name. I was using it since I was also mentioning his brother Marcel.

I missed that, thanks.

sgamer82

@pariston_hill:

I missed that, thanks.

It's fine. Honestly it's only now occurring to me the distinction probably wasn't necessary some nobody until recently even ever used Marcel's last name.

maxterdexter

@Satsuki:

Damn. How did I miss that?

Because it was subtle and contextless.

Satsuki

That would explain it. I'm getting a little bored of this, I want to go back to Paradise Island.

KageKageKing

Hehehehehe. Porco means Pig in portuguese.

Enzeru

For what it's worth, all the exposition the continent is getting now is hyping the island's happenings quite a bit. I just wish we'll get back to the main cast sooner rather than later as I can't warm up to the continent peeps whatsoever.

On second thought, I can take something positive from the last two chapters- Annie. Hopefully she's still alive and kicking somewhere.

Kizuchan

I enjoy the character development for Reiner. From the new characters I do like Gabi and Pieck and I really like the exploration of the morality of this whole thing (in general the ideas of this story), but I also feel like it's once again not that well paced. This is very similar to the training flashback in that it has a lot of interesting character information, but is a very strong pace-breaker. It's even supposed to be a parallel considering volume 4's (which had the flashback) and volume 23's cover.

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Malintex_Terek

Reiner's development has been top-tier. It hasn't redeemed the manga by any stretch for its plot choices, but it's showed Ishiyama has matured as a writer. It also showed that whoever is his editor does a dang good job of focusing him. If only Oda's editors had the balls to tell him to knock it off with the worldbuilding overkill.

cloudrivera

@Enzeru:

For what it's worth, all the exposition the continent is getting now is hyping the island's happenings quite a bit. I just wish we'll get back to the main cast sooner rather than later as I can't warm up to the continent peeps whatsoever.

On second thought, I can take something positive from the last two chapters- Annie. Hopefully she's still alive and kicking somewhere.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Mikasa became the new female titan. If Eren is in fact going to die soon, I don't see Mikasa wanting to stay alive long without him. Now the question is, where would they find that serum that would turn her into a titan in the first place? lol

Kondo

@cloudrivera:

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Mikasa became the new female titan. If Eren is in fact going to die soon, I don't see Mikasa wanting to stay alive long without him. Now the question is, where would they find that serum that would turn her into a titan in the first place? lol

It's possible that a formula is in Eren's fathers notes. But it does seem a little shallow to kill Annie off that quickly, especially since they did the same to Ymir.

sgamer82

There's also the issue of whether Mikasa even CAN become a Titan. She's not Eldian, after all. I'm not even sure she's part-Eldian like I think Levi is.

Malintex_Terek

@sgamer82:

There's also the issue of whether Mikasa even CAN become a Titan. She's not Eldian, after all. I'm not even sure she's part-Eldian like I think Levi is.

If that's true, I think Eren would be better served eating Annie rather than giving Annie to another Eldian. He would (presumably) gain Annie's combat experience and Eren's ultimate goal is to unite all nine titans anyway.

I have a suspicion, too, that the Founding Titan lineage is the only one that can be combined with the others.

sgamer82

@Malintex_Terek:

He would (presumably) gain Annie's combat experience and Eren's ultimate goal is to unite all nine titans anyway.

No it's not. The idea of uniting them has not even come up in story. Not to mention that would require eating Armin. Eren, so far as we know, has no such ambition.

Satsuki

Yeah, I don't remember Eren ever thinking something like that.

RazgrizX

@Kondo:

It's possible that a formula is in Eren's fathers notes. But it does seem a little shallow to kill Annie off that quickly, especially since they did the same to Ymir.

There isn't a formula, the serum is literally just titan spinal fluid. They can get that from Eren or Armin in titan forms

Satsuki

Or any titan if they want to just knock it down and hold it. Which they can do with either Eren or Armin.

sgamer82

The thing is do the Walldians know that's what the Titan serum is?

If not they may not have known to collect it and they've wiped out the Pure Titans on Paradis.

Kondo

@RazgrizX:

There isn't a formula, the serum is literally just titan spinal fluid. They can get that from Eren or Armin in titan forms

Oh yeah I forgot about that. So I wonder what happens if they do that with a non Eldian. Seems like putting spinal foreign spinal fluid into your bloodstream would be dangerous

maxterdexter

Magic spinal fluid is a lot more acceptable than magic eyeballs . I'll give you that.

RazgrizX

@sgamer82:

The thing is do the Walldians know that's what the Titan serum is?

If not they may not have known to collect it and they've wiped out the Pure Titans on Paradis.

They should know it from Grisha's books and I don't think they don't need mindless titans for it. Just getting it from Eren in titan form should work

Oh and if they do need pure titans for something they still have Connie's mom

KageKageKing

This story is so different from what it was that's weird to see the backstages of chapter 1.
http://readms.net/r/attack_on_titan/096/4488/1

Mumbo

This flashback hasn't shown us anything we don't already know, so I don't totally get the point of this…

Kondo

@Mumbo:

This flashback hasn't shown us anything we don't already know, so I don't totally get the point of this…

I believe that it is supposed to create sympathy for the other side. Give character development to the ones we thought were evil. Also to show the reason that the others are fighting so hard and what they aim to protect.

I actually am enjoying it. Seems like we will be getting back to the main plot soon. Also Bert is such a dork

Cyclone_Baroness

Reiner is much better to follow than Eren for me.

maxterdexter

I still think that we are too far in with the paradisians to try to get the same amount of empathy with the mainlanders.

KageKageKing

Where does Ymir fits on this again? She was Jaws, right?