Wait, if Ymir is Jaws, then aren't we missing one titan?
Attack, colosal, armored, female, control, beast, ….four legs...., and jaws. I tought that she was the "dancing" titan.
Wait, if Ymir is Jaws, then aren't we missing one titan?
Attack, colosal, armored, female, control, beast, ….four legs...., and jaws. I tought that she was the "dancing" titan.
Wait, if Ymir is Jaws, then aren't we missing one titan?
Attack, colosal, armored, female, control, beast, ….four legs...., and jaws. I tought that she was the "dancing" titan.
Apparently she had two titans, just like Eren.
The wiki says that she ate some dude that came with the Berthold party, when did she eat another?
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That's Marcel.She ate Mercel who had a titan power.It seems she never managed to activate it.
what no.
she had sharp teeth.
that was her version of jaws.
if she already had a shifter power before then she wouldnt have been wandering around mindless for 60 years on the island.
maxterdexter is right, as long as we dont get a "yeah its 1 original and 8 split parts" there is one missing again.
OK, sorry but I don't pay attack on titan the attention that it ask for, so help me out. What is the dancing titan then? A bad translation of just a shifter or is it something?d
I didn't see a huge resemblance at first, but after looking back on Grisha as the Attack TotN, he didn't really look much like Eren's version. And anyone who wants it to go back to just killing titans or have it end there must not have really thought it through. I'm enjoying it as much now as I was when I started reading it.
OK, sorry but I don't pay attack on titan the attention that it ask for, so help me out. What is the dancing titan then? A bad translation of just a shifter or is it something?d
i would say it was just how she was called back then.
maybe because isayama didnt knew what her purpose would be as a titan back then.
then again she already had sharp teeth when she ate marcel, so ill take that part with "thats how the power looks on her" back.
maybe that was a mistake on isayamas part or maybe she really didnt develop that power.
but anyway there was never any indication that she could've had another power.
it was stated that she was transformed and wandered around 60 years till she ate marcel by chance, and got his power.
OK, sorry but I don't pay attack on titan the attention that it ask for, so help me out. What is the dancing titan then? A bad translation of just a shifter or is it something?d
It was just the name of the chapter Ymir's titan appeared in. It was basically a nickname like Rogue titan was for Eren
OK, then we are missing one shifter power?
What I don't get now is how the transformation work then, this new jaw titan dude is clearly a 10+ meters, while ymir was like 3-4m, does this mean that Armin is going to be a 10m colossal? What if a small one gets any of the other powers?
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Or is it my bad and this dude is also on the small side of Titans?
OK, then we are missing one shifter power?
yes.
if its not meant to be 9 titans = 1 original titan + 8 split parts.
What I don't get now is how the transformation work then, this new jaw titan dude is clearly a 10+ meters, while ymir was like 3-4m, does this mean that Armin is going to be a 10m colossal? What if a small one gets any of the other powers?
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Or is it my bad and this dude is also on the small side of Titans?
thats the question now. maybe the borders are blurred.
i mean there was this scene, where ymirs head alone has to be over 2 meter to work:
but yeah galiard also has the teeth so maybe showing ymir with sharp teeth before she eats marcel was a mistake.
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In those scenes they do seem to be the same size category at least, assuming those are standard "tie people down in them" train tracks size.
This week's episode was pretty great. The tension was built perfectly to the actual reveal and while there were a couple strange shots and some of THE Colossal Titan CG looked off, the last minutes also had some really great animation.
The music really stood out, too. The rearrangement of Vogel Im Käfig was amazing.
Eren vs Reiner was entertaining.
This scene was funny.
What is with everyone blushing?
And Annie was acting tsundere in the flashback.
What is with everyone blushing?
Because of Hanji's love/obsession with Titans. To have a Titan look at her and nod at her like that just made her that happy. Makes sense that she'd blush.
Because of Hanji's love/obsession with Titans. To have a Titan look at her and nod at her like that just made her that happy. Makes sense that she'd blush.
Not only her. Historia as well.
This was a great action episode. Just really great animation - my favorite animation bits were the ones with Mikasa, the one bit with Reiner and Eren fighting when Mikasa first attacks and Hange and her team attacking the Colossal.
Perfect Edit vid.
It's interesting. I thought back when I read this episode's chapter in the manga, that I had missed something. After all, it was so random that Eren first thinks " I have to keep my head cool and survey for information". Only to immediately after do the exact opposite of that. But no, it appears that my seething hatred of this piece of shit character is still justified, due to the anime adapting it precisely like that. I've probably never hated a protagonist as much as I hate this ill-conceived, snivelling little rat. I hope the creator finds it in his heart to let us watch Eren get brutally ripped apart before the series end.
A lot of Eren's bad annoying habits, like his half-cocked anger, gets much more subdued after the Uprising Arc and the ensuing time-skip. Seems like that is the moment in the series where he matures and mellows out some. Though I personally never really hated the character, though he definitely handled the situation he was in rather poorly in this episode.
I've always disliked Eren, because the plot almost never calls him on his bullshit, and some of his bullshit is insane patriotic drivel. I don't like that one bit.
Turns out that trauma and a stiff moral code isn't all that easily magic'd away. I'm not sure where you take the claim that he never feels the consequences when he's basically responsible for his first team's death, not being able to defeat Annie because of that anger and losing support of Ymir because of these unreliable tendencies in that very same episode he lashed out - of course Ymir would trust Reiner more.
Eren's perspective is shown to change a lot with time. If it were gone just like that it wouldn't be logical at all, but every loss is closer to him growing stronger.
It's a cool gradual thing. When he first transforms, he's mindless (Trost), when he transforms a second time, he can with some trouble (Trost second time), the third time he can straight away he's just reckless (FT) and the fourth time he's in complete control (FT second time and Armoured Titan, in the manga at least, the anime gives it more consequences by having him lose control and makes his performance against the Armoured Titan more sense). Even against the Armoured Titan, he's angry at first, but gains his reason and ultimately could've won against him.
His negative behaviour isn't supposed to be something likeable, but it is at least understandable because he's not gone through a gray conflict like that and really hasn't had his morality challanged all that strongly. Him gaining a more nuanced perspective and becoming much better at controlling his Titan power is really satisfying, I think.
While Eren has obvious anger issues, I actually always liked his behavior in this case. Pretty realistic
It makes total sense : Reiner and Bertold are responsibe for the death of countless innocent people, including his mother. He trusted them, he viewed Reiner as an older brother and then he learn they're his most hated beings in existence, not to forget they attacked, kidnappwd him out of nowhere and cut his limbs.
He tried to control his emotions but then Reiner acts like nothing happened (why u angry bro) and Ymir tries to pass him as the victim. Eren who is already an emotional character can't handle that and his emotions explode.
I know the 15 yo me wouldn't have acted much better than Eren in this situati
I don't get what is handled poorly, maybe just me. People don't always make sense.
Edit : ^very good post from Kizuchan
But no, it appears that my seething hatred of this piece of shit character is still justified, due to the anime adapting it precisely like that.
How does this scene justify hatred towards Eren? How is this not the most understandable reaction to the mass murderers who destroyed your life? I can't picture someone not reacting like Eren in this situation and his age.
Kfunk wrote it, how they acted made Eren snap. He has anger issues, does stupid things and says stupid stuff but to criticize him in this very scene cannot be justified on a moral or emphatical level imo
How does this scene justify hatred towards Eren? How is this not the most understandable reaction to the mass murderers who destroyed your life? I can't picture someone not reacting like Eren in this situation and his age.
Kfunk wrote it, how they acted made Eren snap. He has anger issues, does stupid things and says stupid stuff but to criticize him in this very scene cannot be justified on a moral or emphatical level imo
For the simple reason that he told himself he was going to survey for information and not let his emotions get the best of him. In character writing terms, this means that he has recognized this fact and still hold those grudges. But has come to the realization that he needs to take a smarter approach. Which would be EXTREMELY needed character development for him. When the very next thing he does is to have an immediate outburst of irrational anger, when he told himself not to, all of that falls apart. Without lampshading the fact, or having him have some sort of inner monologue about how he failed on his own promise: that is TERRIBLE character writing. It's inexcusable. There is really no case in fiction that is analogous to this. It's almost akin to Darth Vader deciding he's going to kill the Emperor for his son, but changes his mind once he's picked him up and then decide to let the Emperor kill Luke anyway.
For the simple reason that he told himself he was going to survey for information and not let his emotions get the best of him. In character writing terms, this means that he has recognized this fact and still hold those grudges. But has come to the realization that he needs to take a smarter approach. Which would be EXTREMELY needed character development for him. When the very next thing he does is to have an immediate outburst of irrational anger, when he told himself not to, all of that falls apart. Without lampshading the fact, or having him have some sort of inner monologue about how he failed on his own promise: that is TERRIBLE character writing. It's inexcusable. There is really no case in fiction that is analogous to this. It's almost akin to Darth Vader deciding he's going to kill the Emperor for his son, but changes his mind once he's picked him up and then decide to let the Emperor kill Luke anyway.
Without some inner monologue? He clearly acts because he can't stand Reiners reaction and behaviour anymore. We described it to you in this thread. His feelings take over. And your example you choose is the best explanation. Vader could have lived and and reigned with the emperor the whole galaxy, and yet he throws him down. Why does he do that? Because his feelings have taken over. A grown badass Sith. And we are talking about a 15 year old boy with anger issues here. I don't know why you fail to see that.
Without some inner monologue? He clearly acts because he can't stand Reiners reaction and behaviour anymore. We described it to you in this thread. His feelings take over. And your example you choose is the best explanation. Vader could have lived and and reigned with the emperor the whole galaxy, and yet he throws him down. Why does he do that? Because his feelings have taken over. A grown badass Sith. And we are talking about a 15 year old boy with anger issues here. I don't know why you fail to see that.
After having listened to Reiner for two minutes. Had Eren spent like 15 minutes trying to push back his emotional instability, while also investigating, maybe you can make this case. It would make for some legit exciting ( a word I never thought I'd use in conjunction with this show ) tension. It would give the outrage some legit punch. But when the very first thing he does is lose his mind after telling himself to remain calm, that is shitty. It robs us of much needed character development; something he's desperately in need off. It highlights just how dumb and hormonal he is: something that doesn't help his likeability. Also, something he needs. Because Eren has the charm and likeability of a scorpion in a pair of underpants. It also means that his inner monologue was completely pointless. It didn't communicate the idea that he tried to remain calm but couldnt handle it because of his ineptitude. Him not highlighting this afterwards also doesn't help, because it gives the impression that he's completely incapable of telling his own flaws. On every single storytelling and character writing level, this scene fails and it fails hard.
And people seriously have to stop this meme off "he's a 15 year old, stupid, ragefueled teenage emo, of course he's going to act like a cretin. What would you do as a 15 year old?"
As a 12 year old, I wouldn't stand up against a superninja with a huge sword who had just captured my mentor either. But Naruto doing so against Zabuza makes him more interesting and the scene more enjoyable than if Naruto had ran away.
Him actually telling himself to stay calm is character development alone. This, along with the Reiner fight (also the second FT fight in the manga), is the very first time he actually tries doing that and you don't always succeed the first time, especially when it comes to emotionally intense situations like this. His whole world has been turned upside down in a matter of a few days. It's a miracle half the cast is still sane. Stohess to Reiner reveal took a single day.
AoT is also different in terms of character writing. Naruto and AoT have a very different tone and character writing style and emphasize different things. Every story has an image of humanity/human characters suited to it's needs.
In AoT's case irrationality and individual perspective play a huge role. We know Reiner and Bert's situation is more complex than that, Eren doesn't have that mature perspective because he's a kid whose world perspective hasn't had room to grow enough yet. You don't automatically grow to be someone who understands everything outside your own perspective. Which I imagine is probably a detail that can frustrate people a lot and frustrates you, too.
Just why can't Eren understand them? Why is he so single-minded? Again, trauma and a strong desire for justice. This is exactly what happened to Eren's father, too. Trauma and anger driven by a desire of justice lead to all of his people being turned into Titans. He wasn't strong enough and only learned after the worst had happened.
After having listened to Reiner for two minutes. Had Eren spent like 15 minutes trying to push back his emotional instability, while also investigating, maybe you can make this case.
He actually did stay calm from the moment of his thought until evening, there was a short timeskip. And again, it is a completely normal reaction and wrong to critize him in this case. But this is going circles, let's agree to disagree.
Spme stuff interesting to me is:
1. Werent Eldians supposed to have 7 out of 9 titans first?
But beast, armoured, colos. and the mule one?
2. If Titans powers can be absorbed and even stacked… doesnt that mean that once one of the 9 eats another the powers will stack except if after 13 years powers get split again to different people
3. If Eren has the coordinates.. or rather if he can use them, without the bloodline...and the fact Dina was the trigger...Eren's train of thoughts and so on...is he justified to be fearing for Historias life?
4. Is 13 years period really justified? Can it be bypassed?
5. What is the real meaning behind titans? Or is it really just magic, religion etc, Attack on Titan shape of the world?
What I understood is that count was before the expedition. The wall people had the Attack titan and the controll titan, the continent people has the rest, and in the expedition there were the armored, female, collosal and jaws, while the 2th expedition has the cargo and beast titans. And I'm guessing the final titan.
And the final titan we still dont know what it is right?
And the final titan we still dont know what it is right?
Correct. With Galliard's introduction I'd thought was had but his Titan way Ymir's, so that leaves ones unaccounted for.
No Chapter this month?
raw is out, just waiting for translation
No Chapter this month?
I don't expect the chapters, at least in official English, until about the 10th of the month, give or take.
ah i see. i somehow had in mind that they would be out around the 5th.
Yep, new chapter is out. Looks like a good one.
http://readms.net/r/attack_on_titan/094/4324/1
For some reason, everytime I see someone being happy and positive in this series, all I see is the expression of despair and confusion on their faces.
I guess it's because I read too much Shonen.
I like this, but I feel like it's comming too late in the story.
I like this, but I feel like it's comming too late in the story.
Where else would this come in?
Where else would this come in?
I dunno, I feel like the whole civil war and coup thing was a drag.
Good ol' times for uncle reiner to jump in with his crazy stories about those potato devils
I don't know if it was just me, maybe it was. But this chapter finally, finally(!) made me actually feel and connect with a character in this series. Most of the time I see them as distant, weird, borderline sociopaths who I can't connect with, and that's affected my enjoyment of the series since the beginning. I like the story progression and all of that, but the characters themselves… I don't know. But this chapter made me reflect on the evolution of the series and the interactions between Reiner and the others, the double life they led and the duality of how the continentals look at the islanders and how the islanders look at themselves. It finally ressonated with me. It's been a long time coming. Now I feel like I'm ready to read the final conflict.
So i just caught up the last 5 chapters(i fast read it for some reason) and i am simply awestruck by the series.The focus has shifted away from the main cast,but the mind-blowing world building that is going on right now is something else.
Eren seems to be having to flood of memories trying to overcome him and he can't seem to control or regulate them.Aside from that,I will have to see how they depict the passing of time after 4 years on the Paradis' side.
Now coming to Nazi's,it is actually very very impressive how they have shown the reality of the outside world in such a short span of time.The new kids were portrayed quite well,and gave a sense of how life under marley rule for Eldian subjects is.And by proxy we also realize what it like for Reiner and others.I think this is the first time i would have not just hated Reiner outright.I thought that Bertolt and not Reiner should have been left,but now i see what's his role,and yeah he does seem to be a better fit to showcase the cruelty of the world and the predicaments they(Eldians) face
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This is a cool scene
That Mikasa face was scary
That Mikasa face was scary
She went full crazy jealous stalker/girlfriend lol.
She even wanted to kill Historia and Ymir, she was just that determined in rescuing Eren.
I loved the 104th squad reunion, Jean and Berthold made the whole segment touching.
And of course Erwin being a freaking madman.