I wonder what comedy can come from Gai's homoeroticism and Bee's obvious straightness. Now that's comedy I do not wish to see wasted!
Is this Naruto's VIIIth life, is this just fantasy?
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@Friend:
I wonder what comedy can come from Gai's homoeroticism and Bee's obvious straightness. Now that's comedy I do not wish to see wasted!
Their equal manliness will balance out.
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Actually yeah. Gah now I have the fusion dance in my head haha
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The chapter was pretty good, better than the spoilers made it out to be. Of course, next week is gonna rock…it'll be like a gigantic Pokemon battle, with Naruto catching the Nine-Tails to use against MOTHERFUDGING SASUKE.
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Chapter was pretty decent I guess. I sense that the Nine Tails fight will be pretty good though.
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@Malintex: I'm so tired I thought you actually typed Samuel L Jackson's favourite word: "Motherfucker" lol. Giant pokemon battle? Just because pokemon literally stole 10 days of my life (240 hours) a couple of months ago doesn't mean I dont think what you just says sounds absolutely epic. In fact I do think it sounds epic! On that note I'm going to sleep now, night.
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Trust me… as bad as Bleach can get... it easily makes Naruto look terrible by comparison sometimes.
Show me a good example of this lately that isn't just a reused Shounen troupe.
Bleach has been so repetitive and bland it's disgusting. COOL character shows up, does attack, it solves NOTHING. Character says some line that's supposed to be cool, gets beaten/or wins by some BS attack, rinse repeat.
That's Bleach right now. That's Bleach since Aizen left SS.
Mostly due to the fact that Bleach is just meant to LOOK COOL.
I'm honestly curious of what you're definition of cool is.
And that's a terrible excuse for well, anything. If you give a presentation do you think the cooler looking one is going to win, or the one with more interesting information and a presentable look?
Bleach has no interesting information, you have "cool" pictures, that are the same stale moves that got old years ago. "Look behind you" compilation is proof of that.
Naruto despite the "yaoi" undertones, even with it's plot points rushed, are still executed well enough that is…. passable. Just a C+, Naruto isn't what it should be, which is why people get so pissed off.
But it's amazing how Kishimoto, who's tired of this series and showing it, can still write better than Kubo. AND present better than Kubo.
As opposed to a show about two friends that really wub each other but are mortal enemies yadda yadda yadda.
"friendship" is expressed like that in a lot of great manga, Hunter X Hunter, Yu Yu Hakusho, Dragonball (Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu), JJBA… etc.
but hey, if you want to look at a picture book that's fine. Technically speaking, Naruto's pretty much took the dragonball route near the buu saga, but takes WAY more crap for it.
Vegeta obsessed over Goku, GIVES INTO DARKNESS, all the side characters become useless, besides the MAIN TWO.
Is it executed poorly? hell yes. But Bleach is better? Hell, the main point that everyone tries to sell me "THE FIGHTS AND COOL MOVES" are horrible.
You show me more cool scenes from bleach than in Naruto and I'll concede.
This is coming from a guy who grew tired of Naruto during the beginning of the Timeskip.
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That's quite the wall of text for just three lines from me O_o;
Watch episode 271 and tell me it's not pretty as hell.
Bleach is supposed to be pretty moving pictures… that's it.
If you're into it for anything else you might as well stop reading it.
Naruto on the other hand is trying to be deep and it fails terribly at it.
Especially since it has potential to destroy Bleach in every facet but Kishimoto is too busy fanboyin' about Sasuke (althou the past couple of chapters without Teh Darkness HAVE been refreshin'... but this chapter, was lulzy at best).
It's kind of why I hold certain shows to more scrutiny but give others some leeway.
Bleach = Mindless Fun
Hence free pass.
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So because you lowered you standards for Bleach, it gets a free pass?
boggles o.O
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Why is this manga not named Killer Bee?
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Because it never set out to be anything but a book with pretty pictures.
Nothing else.
I don't see why that boggles the mind much.
For example: should we REALLY hold Dr. Seuss stories to the same standards of say Stephen King novels (or whatever author you think is "teh awesome" regardless of genre)?
Cuz if so… then I'm 100 percent wrong and I have NO problem admiting it.
I just don't see a reason to treat Bleach as "Enlightening Literature" or anything of the sort.
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That's quite the wall of text for just three lines from me O_o;
Watch episode 271 and tell me it's not pretty as hell.
Bleach is supposed to be pretty moving pictures… that's it.
If you're into it for anything else you might as well stop reading it.
Naruto on the other hand is trying to be deep and it fails terribly at it.
Especially since it has potential to destroy Bleach in every facet but Kishimoto is too busy fanboyin' about Sasuke (althou the past couple of chapters without Teh Darkness HAVE been refreshin'... but this chapter, was lulzy at best).
It's kind of why I hold certain shows to more scrutiny but give others some leeway.
Bleach = Mindless Fun
Hence free pass.
Don't take it personal, just trying to see what you see is all. I'm not gonna watch the anime though. Since those are stretched out fights and effects by the animators. I'm talking about Kubo HIMSELF.
and in my opinion Naruto's "fail to be deep" plot still beats bleach. Though I don't see how it failed since "Naruto" is absolutely right in the aspect of war and killing. It creates an endless cycle and less someone is willing to let go, Sasuke is that person.
It does do it in a gay and rushed way however, which to me, is still better than no way at all.
Kubo forgot what his own main character's bankai does…. HOW DO YOU DO THAT?
I understand you're turning off your mind, but there's got to be a limit man.
but to each his own, but that's freaking scary.
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Don't take it personal, just trying to see what you see is all. I'm not gonna watch the anime though. Since those are stretched out fights and effects by the animators. I'm talking about Kubo HIMSELF.
Bolded for don't worry.
But I will say this.
You're doing yourself a great diservice not watching the anime but reading the manga.
As I said in the Bleach thread: Bleach the MANGA is nothing but a storyboard for the anime.
If you ignore the filler and sit thru the stare offs (which if you watched DBZ during it's INITIAL run should be child's play) you'll find it's a decent shonen anime.
Not so much of a manga to speak of thou.
Hopefully that makes more sense as to why I turn my brain off.
(Did I mention the liberal use of spanish makes me laugh my ass off? Cuz it bears repetition.)
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Don't take it personal, just trying to see what you see is all. I'm not gonna watch the anime though. Since those are stretched out fights and effects by the animators. I'm talking about Kubo HIMSELF.
and in my opinion Naruto's "fail to be deep" plot still beats bleach. Though I don't see how it failed since "Naruto" is absolutely right in the aspect of war and killing. It creates an endless cycle and less someone is willing to let go, Sasuke is that person.
It does do it in a gay and rushed way however, which to me, is still better than no way at all.
Kubo forgot what his own main character's bankai does…. HOW DO YOU DO THAT?
I understand you're turning off your mind, but there's got to be a limit man.
but to each his own, but that's freaking scary.
I draw the line at Twilight which has a terrible story, terrible characters, and everything is just plain terrible.
Bleach has a terrible story and tolerable characters that actually nuke shit once in a while. Yeah, the fights have sucked lately and yeah, the plot is fucking atrocious but… nukes, man. Nukes.
Put nukes in Twilight and I gurantee I'll consider skimming the bitch.
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@Uncle:
I draw the line at Twilight which has a terrible story, terrible characters, and everything is just plain terrible.
Bleach has a terrible story and tolerable characters that actually nuke shit once in a while. Yeah, the fights have sucked lately and yeah, the plot is fucking atrocious but… nukes, man. Nukes.
Put nukes in Twilight and I gurantee I'll consider skimming the bitch.
I was waiting for someone to mention that horrible excuse of literature.
As someone who actually skimmed thru this perverse version of the Necronomicon let me tell you what is inherently wrong with Twilight.
It's the product of the author's wet dreams by her own admission.
No nukes in the world can save that…
Oh and Bleach has Mayuri/Kenpachi/Gin/Isshin... that alone is enough reason to watch.
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Because it never set out to be anything but a book with pretty pictures.
Nothing else.
I don't see why that boggles the mind much.
For example: should we REALLY hold Dr. Seuss stories to the same standards of say Stephen King novels (or whatever author you think is "teh awesome" regardless of genre)?
Cuz if so… then I'm 100 percent wrong and I have NO problem admiting it.
I just don't see a reason to treat Bleach as "Enlightening Literature" or anything of the sort.
DOHOHO. Bad choice of author. Dr. Seuss books are metaphorical and deeper than Stephen King can ever dream. for example:
http://bookstove.com/children/themes-of-race-in-dr-seuss-green-eggs-and-ham/or:
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/06/dr-seuss-on-economy.htmlBut the true problem with Bleach was before the end of SS arc it WAS more than a picture book.
Kubo had backgrounds, the characters were fleshed out and entertaining. They had mysterious ways of acting that made you wonder and want to know more about them.
Then you find out everything, and it blew the mind. Everything up till the SS arc was SUPERB.
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/143/19/
This Chapter in itself gave me CHILLS. Bleach WAS amazing, Kubo WAS a good writer. Zombie Powder alone was proof.But somewhere down the road to money and fame Kubo stopped caring about the story, or maybe all he planned was up till Aizen. Even then, there's no excuse for what this manga has become.
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DOHOHO. Bad choice of author. Dr. Seuss books are metaphorical and deeper than Stephen King can ever dream.
This is one of those "to each his own" type deals.
I never cared for the good Doctor's work… that's not to say it doesn't hold validity (not to mention that while I agree with some of his political stances I didn't care for that as a kid :V)
Just not my cup of tea overall.
Stephen King is nice mindless terror with personality to spare.
I can get behind that.
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"Dr. Seuss VIII Naruto's Rhymes for Breakfast"
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@robbybedfart:
The series itself is making a pretty big point about darkness overtaking Sasuke and him being not like he was, and it being genetics/fate, etc.
If I cared enough to look back I'd pull up the vision Karin had of him being all possesed.
The point is, at the end all his assholishness is going to be EXCUSED and FORGIVEN by claiming "he had no free will, it wasn't his fault" and everyone will be happy.
And that will suck. A lot.
Genetics?? WTF are you talking about?? Sasuke is pissed because his whole family got destroyed. He did have free will. WTF are you talking about, Naruto said he accepted his bad side. The Bad side is still in him. He the reason Naruto is that way. Also whats with this nonesense about shonene main characters not forgiving people quickly. Gon and Luffy do it all the fuking time. Naruto has been doing it from part 1.:wassat: oh yea so does Goku. sihhh, but like i always say Haters going to hate. @Malintex_Terek:
The spoiler pic made me LOL because it looked like Naruto was GAY…for himself.
It's cool he and Bee are bro's now though. Bad news bears if Bee dies, which seems likely to me.
As far as Sasuke goes…as bad a writer as Kishimoto is reputed, I don't think Sasuke is going to be absolved simply because of the influence of genetics and family. He's his own man and made his own decisions...this is a pretty fundamental theme in coming-of-age shounen manga...it's beyond my imagination for that to be discounted.
bad writer?
@sanji499:As long as Sasuke is not here, Naruto is more enjoyable.
5th straight chapters without Sasuke !
Sasuke is one of the most popular characters, but i understand how you feel. I hate the last 3 chapters featuring Naruto.
@x20a:Man, that felt like a bleach chapter; it was so fast! That's not what she said =x
No, but really, what a shitty chapter. Even Naruto's darkness is gay and gay. Seriously, that's all it took to get rid of his traumatizing past? A thank you and a yaoi hug? Man, I can already see the end of Naruto and Sasuke's fight; a thank you and a yaoi hug.
Seriously, this is why Naruto is such a bad manga. Since Part 2, Sasugay's emo traumatizing past gets like 100 chapters. Naruto got like 4 chapters and a stupid speech. I don't think even Black Flash and Raikage can make this somewhat bearable to read anymore…
I guess you just skipped everything Naruto said and went to the hug part. I would see how you thought it was a bad chapter.
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Just read the chapter. You know what I just realized? Naruto is more focused on his fucking autograph than he is on Hinata.
Jesus tap-dancing Christ.
Well, gay hugging aside, the chapter was decent.
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About Bleach: Mindless? Yes. Fun? Before the writing devolved into the equivalent of a stenographer taking down the imaginary fight between a couple five year olds playing hero and villain.
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Just read the chapter. You know what I just realized? Naruto is more focused on his fucking autograph than he is on Hinata.
Further proof that Kishimoto fucking HATES women.
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except for Sasuke
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I c wat u did der.
Srsly thou… Sasuke would make an ugly woman anyways.
And he's always bitching about HIS side of the family :V
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Wait a minute.
Sasuke isn't a lady?
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Ladies have class.
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Kishimoto you decieved me.
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i always thought sasuke was a women i mean hes a lot more feminine the sakura
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Not all women are ladies. Just like not all guys are gentlemen.
…to be honest, Hinata's the only female in the series who I'd consider a "lady."
No gentlemen, though.
Not even the Super Blackness Bros. Awesome and pimptastic and amazing they are, but politeness is a trait they lack.
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Gabzillaz in da house, yo!
"Crush Dark Naruto" or "Dark Naruto has a crush on Naruto because he is a total softie" - Cover has Killerbee and Naruto.
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Naruto, if you could please move, you are blocking awesome.
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Killerbee thanks Naruto for helping Motoi.
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Yamato notes how everybody becomes a Naruto fangirl sooner or later. Not even Kumo nins are immune.
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This just made me like Karui a lot more.
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Naruto tries to rap… Key word being "try"
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Yamato: My God, stick to being the Chosen One and don't try to become a rapper, kid.
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Naruto bumps fists with Killerbee.
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Even Killerbee's glasses are cool.
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Killerbee tells Naruto to go back to the mini Niagara to face his Dark Side.
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Dark Naruto: You can't beat me, bitch.
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Naruto: I know.
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Dark Naruto: ...that's it? I mean... really? Dark Ichigo at least got a personality.
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Naruto: If you know me so well you should know this already. Or did you miss how I converted that last loser with a book?
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Naruto focuses and shows Yami Naruto his... eh... autograph.
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Yami Naruto: Dude, where's my respect?
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Naruto tells him that it's the autograph he wanted to give to his fans.
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You may want to work on that, Naruto.
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Yami Naruto: Now I'm gonna whine about everything you didn't whine before because you were too busy whining about Sasuke!
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Naruto: It's important that they believe in me, but first I have to believe in myself, believe it!
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Yami Naruto can't argue against so many "believes".
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Naruto: I'm using Octo-dude as an inspiration because he never ever whines.
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Yami Naruto: But I need you to hate! If not I will lose my job and I have to pay rent... what am I supposed to do?
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Naruto: What do you think?
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Yami Naruto attacks Naruto.
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Naruto hugs him.
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No, seriously.
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What is this I can't even
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So Naruto tells YN that everything is gonna be allright.
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The anime team is going to add romantic music and rainbows in the background. Mark my words.
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Yamato: wat
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Naruto: HAH
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Yamato: You did it! I don't know wtf you just did, but you did!
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Killerbee: Slow down, mothefucker, it's too early to celebrate.
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Naruto: What now? Do I need to get in touch with my inner girl?
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Killerbee: I think you already got that covered. But close enough. Now you need to tame your inner bitch! I'm going to train you!
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Naruto: YESSSSSS
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Yamato: Can I watch?
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Killerbee: Sure, why not?
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And behind waterfall number one…
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...we have a gym. Kumo style.
So, yeah...
I need to catch up with One Piece. Like now.
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This chapter makes me feel like there´s more darkness coming soon…
I really consider completelly stop reading naruto :( -
This chapter makes me feel like there´s more darkness coming soon…
I really consider completelly stop reading naruto :(I should start keeping count of how many times I've heard this line.
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Not all women are ladies. Just like not all guys are gentlemen.
…to be honest, Hinata's the only female in the series who I'd consider a "lady."
No gentlemen, though.
Not even the Super Blackness Bros. Awesome and pimptastic and amazing they are, but politeness is a trait they lack.
lee is a total gentleman
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Gabzillaz in da house, yo!
Gabzillaz's reviews always make my day. And am I reading it right? Gabzillaz is going to start catching up to One Piece? I thought she hated it… :ninja:
Anyway, good for her. She's found the light.
Chapter was decent, btw.
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"Dr. Seuss VIII Naruto's Rhymes for Breakfast"
Sure can cXbVrR5zoYc.
Damn, that song is funkaa~~y! -
dateba-yooooooooo wut up
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In my opinion "Yami Naruto was poorly executed. Nuff said.
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This chapter makes me feel like there´s more darkness coming soon…
I really consider completelly stop reading naruto :(Why do you think that?
I think Naruto is going to take out his darkness with the help of Killer Bee.
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Damn disgusting chapter… so painful to read, this was SO lame. Naruto used his jesus talk no jutsu with hug no jutsu against his darker self...well not that I expected much from Dark Naruto to begin with...
I dont think I have strenght to follow this damn series to end, this is just painful to read.
Killerbee seems to become Naruto's bitch #52, not a big loss at this point anymore, I found Killerbee to be waaaay too over-rated to the scale that it become a running joke on Naruto discussions...
God damn it I just wish that Kishi would make Naruto grand Hokage of entire Naruto verse and make everyone his bitches and this would be over...well I dont really have to read something I dont want to, even if it would only take 20 seconds / week...
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Killerbee seems to become Naruto's bitch #52, not a big loss at this point anymore, I found Killerbee to be waaaay too over-rated to the scale that it become a running joke on Naruto discussions…
We hate you too.
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Damn disgusting chapter… so painful to read, this was SO lame. Naruto used his jesus talk no jutsu with hug no jutsu against his darker self...well not that I expected much from Dark Naruto to begin with...
I dont think I have strenght to follow this damn series to end, this is just painful to read.
Killerbee seems to become Naruto's bitch #52, not a big loss at this point anymore, I found Killerbee to be waaaay too over-rated to the scale that it become a running joke on Naruto discussions...
God damn it I just wish that Kishi would make Naruto grand Hokage of entire Naruto verse and make everyone his bitches and this would be over...well I dont really have to read something I dont want to, even if it would only take 20 seconds / week...
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I thought Vegeta might get brought up again, since he is effectively one of the greatest models for the anti-hero trope. He killed far more people than Sasuke and he was also like Sasuke a bit of a cock. However Vegeta had actual power behind him because he trained his arse of in order to try and surpass Goku. Vegeta's pride was kinda charming actually. Sasuke's whinging was not.
Actually Rican has convinced me to watch the anime of Bleach. Maybe I can appreciate the manga better after this. It's like Tezuka did amazing manga but it is often said his great passion was turning that manga into anime, I know he was fascinated with film and all the associated film techniques. Anyway I'm getting out of context.
I prefer Naruto to Bleach, because I think Naruto is getting better again. As most people on this thread have said, as soon as Sasuke goes away the series gets better.
Wtf? As someone who is a hardcore fan of Jiraiya, as much as myanimelist.net name is Jiraiyathesage, I can say Bee is pretty much a replacement Jiraiya. We need this sort of character so the series can keep some senblance of goodness, otherwise we are just going to have a load of emos running around weeping all day. All hail hale and hearty characters like Jiraiya and Bee. To te goofy but awesome character when he does get serious, cheers.
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Question!
So, if Dark Naruto was defeated by a hug, does that means that Dark B was killed by a… hug also? Or Killer B was manly enough to just fistbump it away
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Consider how cool and awesome The Big Bee is maybe he just stared it away.
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He probably rapped at it and it went away. If the dar side is the opposite to the light, then his dark side probably didn't like rapping lol.
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@Friend:
He probably rapped at it and it went away. If the dar side is the opposite to the light, then his dark side probably didn't like rapping lol.
Wooooow, I completely read that the wrong way.
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I'm glad you informed us of this haha. No he is a rappist not a rapist lol. No wonder they use the word rapper rather than rappist.
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Hi, I am a new guy. Registered in 2008. This is my first post after 2 years of lurking.
The correct word for "one who raps" is rapper.
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Congrats on the name change Sea~ ;)