He just likes being a bully. If you don't like it, just put him on your ignore list.
Still chugging along there in your lame little crusade huh.
Most Despicable Villain(s) so far…
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I actually like Caribou. His dirty ways are entertaining, but I have a hard time seeing him becoming anything but an enemy to the strawhats. He is just way too vile. He is definetely up there as the most despicable.
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You guys are letting Kidd off lightly imo. He's the one who killed civillians who laughed at him if i remember. His killing of civillians was the reason why his bounty was higher than Luffy's and considering what Luffy had to do to earn a bounty that high kid must've killed a lot of innocent people.
Bottom line, he's a bad guy, as bad as Blackbeard IMO because if he had the power he'd probably be doing the same things BB is doing and nothing he's said or done has shown otherwise, only enforced it. But being a bad guy doesn't make him a villain off the bat mainly because we decide who is a villain from the perspective of Luffy and his crew and Kidd hasn't done anything directly antagonistic to them. He might turn out to be a villain later though but for now he's just a bad guy.
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@JERK:
No it isn't. What makes Kidd a villain. What. Name one thing. The civilian killing was even revealed to be the result of people laughing at his dreams rather then some random massacres.
Wait up. I think we're in agreement on the government, Caribou, and Kidd's evil in comparison to the government's, but I see how killing random people on the street for laughing at you isn't an indication of evil. What he's doing is essentially civilian massacre just like Akainu did back at Ohara, the only difference is that Kidd doesn't pretend he's on the side of justice (which makes him marginally better than Akainu, but still doesn't keep him from being a terrible person).
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@Sir:
Wait up. I think we're in agreement on the government, Caribou, and Kidd's evil in comparison to the government's, but I see how killing random people on the street for laughing at you isn't an indication of evil. What he's doing is essentially civilian massacre just like Akainu did back at Ohara, the only difference is that Kidd doesn't pretend he's on the side of justice (which makes him marginally better than Akainu, but still doesn't keep him from being a terrible person).
he might be going with the technical side of the word or semantics but if he's not then this will be an amusing display of verbal acrobatics…
or he'll just say you're dumb and leave lol
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What? Kid isn't evil. That's like a person raping a woman because she brushed him off and insulted him, then saying he isn't evil.
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What? Kid isn't evil. That's like a person raping a woman because she brushed him off and insulted him, then saying he isn't evil.
How is it like that at all?
@JERK:
That's making an argument.
It's NOT even a fact, it's a subjective claim with no meaning.
You realize you're edging right toward Tori22 territory don't you?
Either your insanely dumb, or your trolling.But you were the one saying it wasn't an argument… and then I agreed with you...
@JERK:Saying someone's ally without making the huge distinction of it being fake is the kind of thing only a troll would leave out. You know damn well what it sounded like you were saying.
Apparently I made it sound like I thought he would be a crew member. Simply put, what I meant can be misinterpreted and it has been. My bad
@JERK:
Oh really. Name one goddamn thing.
Thats kinda the point… I can't... there is nothing stating he is a rival or a villain.
@JERK:
It's insanely fucking stupid. It's literally a logic fallacy.
Comparing two things that are similar is stupid?
Lolwut?
@JERK:
Have you ever been to a bar?
Go to a bar. Some big lummox sits down next to you and you talk to him, he makes fun of something you say. Now imagine you're Kidd. You take umbrage at this and fight him. You kill him in the fight.
Congrats you killed a civilian. Now rinse wash and repeat over and over again.You're completely ignoring what the stated circumstances are, and just take the bare comment of "Kidd kills civilians" at point blank.
Kidd is not a serial killer or any shit like that.
He is wanted for killing civlilians. It has been stated that that is the only reason he bounty was higher then Luffy's, because of his ruthlessness toward the innocent.
@JERK:I don't even care about arguing this thing if you don't actually think he's going to become their friend.
Well I never said he would become their friend.. just an ally. Luffy allied with Croc but they are not friends. Why not Caribou? In fact there are many reasons for someone to believe that could happen
@JERK:Then why the hell are you theorizing at all? That's the entire point of theorizing unless you think you're own fanfiction ideas are some how a better source of speculation.
Fair point.
@JERK:
I always attempt to understand what Oda is thinking, which is exactly what I said good theorizers do?
Congrats on not reading well.
What I was trying to say was that I was not trying to understand Oda. That's impossible.
What I said was that, YOU do indeed do that, but I do not. Therefore what you said only applies to you…. Congrats on not reading well?
@JERK:lol, you JUST said you aren't trying to understand Oda.
Goes back and reads what I said
…. What you just said does not apply to what I said. I said I was not trying to understand Oda, where as you said that I was. So stop putting words in my mouthDon't pull this goddamn "im a robot and i do not understand the understood" shit with me.
@JERK:
Alright, again since you're stupid. I need to ask which thing you mean.
1. You're wondering why I waited for Oda to make the plot get to that point as opposed to…... I don't fucking know.
2. You honestly thought I didn't already know Perona would never join the crew, and that I ever held doubt over the outcome.
These are both insanely dumb things to think hth.
Who did not know Perona would not join? It was a terrible idea to begin with.
What I am saying is you waited around to see if you were right, so you could ban AGOG. And you did this. I can see how you misunderstood me. I should have worded myself better.
@JERK:Huh? Now I just think you have no idea how anything in the AGOG situation even went down.
It is pretty simple what happened. You told him, if Perona joins, you will ban your account. Vise versa for him.
That's the basics of it correct?
@JERK:
How the fuck are you getting all this inane…whatever the hell you're going on about, from me simply saying I don't need to wait to know that you're wrong. What the fuck is wrong with you.
Actually you do have to wait to see if I'm wrong, because I am not yet wrong.
@JERK:Nobody but aspergers rotten twats care about "technically" in this scenario, so try speaking the language around here.
Will do
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You guys are letting Kidd off lightly imo. He's the one who killed civillians who laughed at him if i remember. His killing of civillians was the reason why his bounty was higher than Luffy's and considering what Luffy had to do to earn a bounty that high kid must've killed a lot of innocent people.
Have you been reading our posts at all?
Because the only good thing we've said about Kidd is that he's honest about the shit he does.
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Kidd would just cut your head off where you stand.
Caribou would immediately try to rope himself into your inner circle, pretend to be your ally, hold the charade for a few months, then cut your head off in a back ally and blame it on someone else.
There's a difference.
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What? Kid isn't evil. That's like a person raping a woman because she brushed him off and insulted him, then saying he isn't evil.
He's a bad guy, and quite crazy, but not "evil".
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He's a bad guy, and quite crazy, but not "evil".
Bad guys are saints aren't they? Flowers bloom wherever they thread.
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Bad guys are saints aren't they? Flowers bloom wherever they thread.
Stop being a fucking extremist. Everything isn't black or white.
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It's called "sarcasm".
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I don't say he'll be an ally, but he's kinda like a New World Buggy. He's dangerous but in the end he's taken quite lightly, and he's a ridiculous villain. It can make people like him as a character. Which I do. Just because he's funny, with his perverseness, his gross face and disgusting Logia.
Seriously, look at the scene with the mermaids. Don't you think Oda is trolling us in a fun way, by showing Caribou enslave mermaids like that, with his filthy mud, while making gross grimaces.
I think One Piece gets better with a few characters like that ^^Burying people alive.
The comedy stylings of Carobou.
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It's called "sarcasm".
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
Burying people alive.
The comedy stylings of Carobou.
Err, what's your point here ?
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@Sir:
Wait up. I think we're in agreement on the government, Caribou, and Kidd's evil in comparison to the government's, but I see how killing random people on the street for laughing at you isn't an indication of evil. What he's doing is essentially civilian massacre just like Akainu did back at Ohara,
lol at the false equivalency here.
Kidd gets in stupid petty street/bar spats, and happens to be much stronger then the people he gets into them with.
Akainu kills boats with entire communities on board in case a single criminal was hiding on it.
ANYONE who thinks these are comparable is a complete fucking idiot.
Kidd is not a good guy, but he isn't fucking evil.
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Stop being a fucking extremist. Everything isn't black or white.
I see, there must be a legit reason for him killing people that were insulting and laughing at him. Stop being a bloody idiot :getlost: That coupled with wanting to kill Apoo for just being stared at and crucifying a dude adds to him being labeled as a bad person. He doesn't take shit from anyone and the actions seem to feed his ego with him wanting to show everyone that he is not someone to be trifled with. I seem to get the impression that he takes some enjoyment out of his actions, so he is evil
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@JERK:
lol at the false equivalency here.
Kidd gets in stupid petty street/bar spats, and happens to be much stronger then the people he gets into them with.
Akainu kills boats with entire communities on board in case a single criminal was hiding on it.
ANYONE who thinks these are comparable is a complete fucking idiot.
Kidd is not a good guy, but he isn't fucking evil.
He murders civillians. Probably a lot of them to get a bounty higher than the man who defeated 2 Shichibukai and toppled Enies Lobby and you're going to sit there and say there's a difference between that and killing a bunch of civilians on a boat. At least Akainu believed he was doing the right thing which doesn't make the act any less what it is but Kidd goes around murdering people for fun…
and you're going to try and argue that he's not evil. Even after he stated himself that he was evil and that he's OK with him being EVIL.
how...
wha..
i don't even understand how you're trying to make this argument...
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But you were the one saying it wasn't an argument… and then I agreed with you...
You know what "Sabo", you're clearly unfamiliar with the English language beyond any sort of entirely technical level.
Are you actually retarded? Have severe aspergers? I mean Cuddles apparently has it, and he's as functional and goddamn literate as anyone, so I'm thinking severe here. Chris-Chan shit.
OR are you not an English speaker?
Or maybe you're both autistic AND from Russia. Double whammy of being completely incapable of following how people speak on an English forum.
Thats kinda the point… I can't... there is nothing stating he is a rival or a villain.
So then you don't think anything states someone is a villain. Because plotting to kill out protagonists and participating in slave trade means he's a villain.
Comparing two things that are similar is stupid? Lolwut?
lollllll
You really are goddamned stupid. You're one of the stupidest posters I've ever argued with. I mean I've argued against people whove really not known their shit when it came to logical fallacies. Aokiji was awful, Phenomonyl was absolutely incapable. But I don't think I've ever run into someone whose been so dumb that they actually think they've found a good argument based off "tangental quality A shared by X and Y means every comparison between the two of them is valid!"He is wanted for killing civlilians. It has been stated that that is the only reason he bounty was higher then Luffy's, because of his ruthlessness toward the innocent.
If you get into a bar fight with some scuzz on an island like Jaya it's not a matter of "innocent". Sure the poor guy gets killed, but he was getting involved in a bar fight.
It's like two hoods in Compton having an argument and one of them caps the other one.
There's a ton of moral failing going on here clearly.
But this is nothing whatsoever like Kidd riding into a village like Ghenghis Khan and killing the men and selling the women and children.
Which is your argument.
Well I never said he would become their friend.. just an ally. Luffy allied with Croc but they are not friends. Why not Caribou? In fact there are many reasons for someone to believe that could happen
Luffy allied with Croc AGES after their initial conflict, when there was a MASSIVE crisis that pushed them together.
What I was trying to say was that I was not trying to understand Oda. That's impossible.
Of course it's fucking possible. Jesus christ boy, have you ever had an English course in your life? Of course you have.
You try to understand Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Milton, Williams…Yet here you are trying to tell me we can't do the same for the author of a rubber pirate comic book, ahahahahahaha.
What I said was that, YOU do indeed do that, but I do not. Therefore what you said only applies to you…. Congrats on not reading well?
Since I still think your confused as fuck (what with your legacy of being completely illiterate to anything related to subtext even in goddamn conversation…no wonder you think it's impossible to understand Oda's intentions) state directly what it is I do and what you don't. Tell me.
Goes back and reads what I said
…. What you just said does not apply to what I said. I said I was not trying to understand Oda, where as you said that I was. So stop putting words in my mouthAnd bingo. That is absolutely not what I said you did.
In fact if you had understood what I was saying even slightly you would know that wasn't the case.
I take PRIDE is being one of the apparently depressingly few who actually care about what Oda's style and methods are, rather then slapping idiotic personal fantasies on the series. I RESPECT people who do that, and would respect YOU if you had professed to attempting it if nothing else.Why would I ever compliment you by saying you did that?
I was doing the opposite! Saying all your problems stem from NOT doing it.
Who did not know Perona would not join? It was a terrible idea to begin with.
Yeeeeop. 100% confirmation that you can't follow anything to save your life.
I mean jesus, do I even need to tell you the name of who did?
Go look on the thread you "lurked" on. The poll is still there, you can see huge amounts of names supporting Perona. Also Hancock.
What I am saying is you waited around to see if you were right, so you could ban AGOG.
I HAD NO CHOICE
What did you expect me to do??
Force Oda by gun point to rush the story to the point where Perona obviously wasn't going to join?
Just because I hate waiting around doesn't mean I can change space and time.It is pretty simple what happened. You told him, if Perona joins, you will ban your account. Vise versa for him.
Didn't you JUST ask whether anyone actually thought Perona would join?
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He murders civillians. Probably a lot of them to get a bounty higher than the man who defeated 2 Shichibukai and toppled Enies Lobby and you're going to sit there and say there's a difference between that and killing a bunch of civilians on a boat. At least Akainu believed he was doing the right thing which doesn't make the act any less what it is but Kidd goes around murdering people for fun…
and you're going to try and argue that he's not evil. Even after he stated himself that he was evil and that he's OK with him being EVIL.
how...
wha..
i don't even understand how you're trying to make this argument...
ahahahahaha, see, you're doing the Aokiji thing.
1. You've been nudging peoples shoulders like "HEY BRO, CHECK DOCTOR CRAZY OVER HERE". When no one really gives a fuck about you.
2. Think somehow, even though I clearly don't respect your ass in the slightest. That I give the slightest shit to what your perspective is on any issue.
Congrats, you have nothing to add on this topic. Stop trying.
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Damn, when did the Most Despicable Villain thread become the Next Nakama Thread?
Cause i'm not complaining.
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Have any of the people whinging about Kidd even read chapter 505.
Just morbid curiosity.
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You'll say anything to win an argument won't you.
Kid murders anyone who speaks against him = no big deal bar fight
you don't get a 300+ million bounty for getting into barfights all over the grandline.
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Hey Jerk Disease, while you're around, I forget, what was your actual prediction about BB that turned out wrong? (the ones that were right are pretty obvious, since there are only so many situations that refer to those one-worders in your sig)
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Hey Jerk Disease, while you're around, I forget, what was your actual prediction about BB that turned out wrong? (the ones that were right are pretty obvious, since there are only so many situations that refer to those one-worders in your sig)
Him staying as a Shichibukai, I think.
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you don't get a 300+ million bounty for getting into barfights all over the grandline.
Says the guy who is willing to take every single word of a fictional skeavy government at face value lol.
And to think you probably wonder why I'm not taking your input seriously here.
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Hey Jerk Disease, while you're around, I forget, what was your actual prediction about BB that turned out wrong? (the ones that were right are pretty obvious, since there are only so many situations that refer to those one-worders in your sig)
That his plan going into Impel Down was not something that would mean throwing off his title yet.
I knew down the line he would definitely leave the Shichibukai, but I thought he had some greater reason for joining then sneaking into Impel Down for recruits, so I said he wouldn't leave for awhile.
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@S.C.:
Him staying as a Shichibukai, I think.
Ah, thanks.
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You'll say anything to win an argument won't you.
Kid murders anyone who speaks against him = no big deal bar fight
you don't get a 300+ million bounty for getting into barfights all over the grandline.
I like to think Oda did that to try ad throw us off. When we first saw him we were told he causes casualities, and we saw Kid and Killer being the ones to fight the other supernova.
However the next time we see him he is frowning upon the Tenrybuuto in the slave auction, and even gives us a reason why he did what he did. I'm not saying he's a nice guy or anything, but I don't think that would be put in there if he was intended to look like some ruthless villain.
On the other hand Caribou has tried to kill the strawhats for fame, and even tries to take part in the slave trade for some money.
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@JERK:
Says the guy who is willing to take every single word of a fictional skeavy government at face value lol.
And to think you probably wonder why I'm not taking your input seriously here.
Says the guy who lives in a world with no skeavy 1st world gov'ts…
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I love how I've NEVER even suggested such a thing. No one who knows me here will buy that Zeb, why bother?
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Then why do you keep acting like everything the WG does is so impossibly evil when you can draw parallels from what they've done to just about every developed country. I've never argued taking what they say at face value. Just that pretending like you don't live in a world that's basically run by the same type of people is naive and stupid. You attack the WG and the Marines like they're the Third Reich when they could just as easily be the US, UK, Israel, etc.
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lol, you're not worth it Lordzeb.
You're too stupid. It puts you below even this Sabo guy, who I don't even know why I'm stillign arguing with.
I mean you're a person who honestly thinks the WG is not a dictatorship lol.
You're a hopelessly delusional fanboy, above all else a fanboy first and foremost. And that's a brick I'm not slamming my head against.
You're the same as Juju.
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classic Zephos…you might as well not even posted
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Then why do you keep acting like everything the WG does is so impossibly evil when you can draw parallels from what they've done to just about every developed country. I've never argued taking what they say at face value. Just that pretending like you don't live in a world that's basically run by the same type of people is naive and stupid. You attack the WG and the Marines like they're the Third Reich when they could just as easily be the US, UK, Israel, etc.
It's quite scary knowing their are people out there that believe this kind of thing, not to mention having such a delusional train of thought yet remain straight-jacket-free.
You are wrong.
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classic Zephos…you might as well not even posted
Reminder: This poster thinks it's rational to side with the WG against the protagonist of the story. Or at least does so when the WG is under attack by posters who have actually been given some sort of constant inclination
by the authorto think of a good reason to do so.Also this poster is a political nihilist who adores a overzealous furious political idealist enough to fellate his reputation and use him as avatar/sig set, and sees nothing funny about this in the slightest.
And to top it off has actually tried to argue that the WG is a representative democracy.
But the very funniest thing? He expects to be taken seriously and have time spent on him!
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is this an Aokiji?
@JERK:
Reminder: This poster thinks it's rational to side with the WG against the protagonist of the story. Or at least does so when the WG is under attack by posters who have actually been given some sort of constant inclination
by the authorto think of a good reason to do so.When have i done this?
@JERK:
Also this poster is a political nihilist who adores a overzealous furious political idealist enough to fellate his reputation and use him as avatar/sig set, and sees nothing funny about this in the slightest.
Fist of Love. Magma fist. That's just a good sig, you said it yourself. My sig on another forum is gator gaiting. I guess i have sick obsession with gators too. Gosh, i learn so much about myself from your post. If you weren't here to tell me my beliefs and ideals so that you could construct an argument round them i don't know where i'd be and you probably wouldn't have an argument. It's kind of symbiotic…
@JERK:
And to top it off has actually tried to argue that the WG is a representative democracy.
Confederation.
@JERK:
But the very funniest thing? He expects to be taken seriously and have time spent on him!
"you're not worth it Zeb," said Zephos as he continued to spend time replying to Zeb….
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@JERK:
lol at the false equivalency here.
Kidd gets in stupid petty street/bar spats, and happens to be much stronger then the people he gets into them with.
Akainu kills boats with entire communities on board in case a single criminal was hiding on it.
ANYONE who thinks these are comparable is a complete fucking idiot.
Kidd is not a good guy, but he isn't fucking evil.
Akainu is really really evil. I've always argued that. But how can you be so confident that Kidd only gets into bar fights with thugs? We only really have two statements we can go off of here.
First, Shackey said that he got his bounty for "damaging" civilians. This isn't just another case of the government making up stuff to discredit people with pirate flags, we can assume that she is a reliable source.
Then Kidd himself said that he kills anyone who laughs at his dream. Yes, it's very likely that he did fight and kill a lot of thugs, but there's nothing to say that some innocent people didn't laugh at him and get killed over it.
On the route we took to get here, people LAUGHED at us when we said things like that out loud. And I killed every single person who dared so much as CHUCKLE in my face!
I don't think these are the words of someone who is just "sort of a dick". He definitely does have a kind of nobility, but he's just similar to Blackbeard in that regard. He helped Luffy out, but so did Crocodile.
If we find out later that all the civilians he killed were assholes, then I might be inclined to agree with you, though.
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My time is big posts, you know what that looks like. I'm just mocking you now.
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@Sir:
Akainu is really really evil. I've always argued that. But how can you be so confident that Kidd only gets into bar fights with thugs? We only really have two statements we can go off of here.
Ugh..I had a big response eaten…
Think about how Oda revealed stuff about Kidd. He DID look like a psycho at first, I thought the same. But he's shown as relatively calm later, and he never overreacts to Law, never even trying anything against him when he could have later once fighting broke out.
And then he talks about that very civilian killing as "i killed people who laughed at my dreams".Order of information is as important as the information itself. This is part of good writing. Oda does this kind of think frequently.
And think about the Jaya Bar scenario, where there was this total lynch mob mentality going on. Sure it was the Bellamy pirates actually causing the violence, but the people were completely into it, one guy even threw a glass at Luffy I think.
I think it's clear Oda was trying to show what a place influenced by Donflamingo looks like with Jaya. And Kidd's description of his route sounds like the entire damn thing was like that. Kidd sailed through an area of sea already under Donflamingo's hands, whereas the Strawhats only encountered that once. So the idea of that bar lynch mob scenario repeating itself constantly is highly likely.First, Shackey said that he got his bounty for "damaging" civilians. This isn't just another case of the government making up stuff to discredit people with pirate flags, we can assume that she is a reliable source.
But Shackey wouldn't know any specifics, there's no reason to think she would. She wasn't even disgusted or anything, she just found it "uncute". And said she liked Luffy better.
Then Kidd himself said that he kills anyone who laughs at his dream. Yes, it's very likely that he did fight and kill a lot of thugs, but there's nothing to say that some innocent people didn't laugh at him and get killed over it.
Think of that bar scene in Jaya. Imagine an entire sea route of that.
I'm not saying this so much to defend Kidd, but that I think you're missing out on some major foreshadowing on Oda's part for when the plot focuses on Donflamingo eventually. If he were a credible ideological threat he wouldn't simply inspire a world where random guys walking by on their way to work snicker at you when you say "I want to find One Piece.".
If we find out later that all the civilians he killed were assholes, then I might be inclined to agree with you, though.
I'm saying that.
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I have to admit though, Kidd does seem to enjoy crucifying people.
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is this an Aokiji?
When have i done this?
Fist of Love. Magma fist. That's just a good sig, you said it yourself. My sig on another forum is gator gaiting. I guess i have sick obsession with gators too. Gosh, i learn so much about myself from your post. If you weren't here to tell me my beliefs and ideals so that you could construct an argument round them i don't know where i'd be and you probably wouldn't have an argument. It's kind of symbiotic…
Confederation.
"you're not worth it Zeb," said Zephos as he continued to spend time replying to Zeb....
lol this guy is just too funny, I'm siding with him
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…I am not even going to ask why there is talk of Caribou being anything less than a disgusting, piece of slime.
Kidd is a cruel, murdering, jackass- a classic Pirate if you will. A criminal. He has some standards tho and an ideology he stands firmly behind. Caribou has no such thing. He might be comic relief at times (he has funny expressions and hilarious moments like the Franky+barrel one-which was funny because it was at his expense and we want to see him suffer) but that doesn't make him any less of a scumbag than what he is. He isn't a character that will have a change of heart anytime soon and I really can't see the Strawhats ever seeing him as a pal or something. It's fine if you like him and all, but please stop a minute and think before you decide that he will definitely join the SHs/be their friend/will end up being a good-hearted character because.. well.. he won't. 'Xept if Oda gets incredibly high and decides to troll us hard. By all means go ahead and write or read a fanfic about him doing that for fun and your own pleasure. Just don't claim it'll come true, not when Caribou is awful even in his inner thoughts. He might be funny but that is simply not enough to make him one of the crew. He is just too much of an asshole for that. And besides, what would his dream be? Capture all the mermaids of the world and sell them as slaves?
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Last time I'm responding to you Jerk Disease simply because it is extremely pointless to argue when neither of us can be right at this point.
When talking AGOG I used sarcasm and irony. That is indeed hard to follow on the internet so I can understand your confusion. My bad.
Kidd and Caribou are easily comparable. In fact we have been comparing them the whole time. You have been comparing their differences while I have been with their similarities. So even without you knowing it, you have been comparing the two characters.
What a twist ah? There is no way to deny that comparison any longer.
Crock teamed with Luffy due to the circumstances as you said. The same could happen to Caribou. In fact Caribou was trying to make that happen.
Also about the understand Oda thing. Yes my mistake. I see what you meant.
But you still cannot understand Oda. It is impossible. You do indeed do that in the very basics of English classes, but in the very basics of Psychology, you learn it is impossible to understand (completely) someones actions choices, and thoughts completely.
That is the reason I did not try to state something like "ODA WOULD DO THIS FOR SURE". It's because I cannot understand him fully. His manga is also unpredictable. I barely know the guy, aside from his manga. I don't believe that is enough to go off of, to truly be able to predict One Piece, without a lot of luck.
Now I'm going to state one more thing. This whole argument was based of a feeling that I had with Caribou teaming with the Strawhats (for those confused this has nothing to do with him becoming his Nakama) for a select amount of time.
You have a feeling he would not.
Neither of us IS or CAN BE correct until more One Piece is released.
Really this whole arrangement involved a lot of stupidity on both our parts. There are to many loose ends, technicalities, and such that make this argument impossible until Oda releases more manga.
If you cannot understand your flaws (in this argument), the same way I understand my flaws, then there is no point in arguing with someone so stubborn and idiotic.
…I am not even going to ask why there is talk of Caribou being anything less than a disgusting, piece of slime.
Kidd is a cruel, murdering, jackass- a classic Pirate if you will. A criminal. He has some standards tho and an ideology he stands firmly behind. Caribou has no such thing. He might be comic relief at times (he has funny expressions and hilarious moments like the Franky+barrel one-which was funny because it was at his expense and we want to see him suffer) but that doesn't make him any less of a scumbag than what he is. He isn't a character that will have a change of heart anytime soon and I really can't see the Strawhats ever seeing him as a pal or something. It's fine if you like him and all, but please stop a minute and think before you decide that he will definitely join the SHs/be their friend/will end up being a good-hearted character because.. well.. he won't. 'Xept if Oda gets incredibly high and decides to troll us hard. By all means go ahead and write or read a fanfic about him doing that for fun and your own pleasure. Just don't claim it'll come true, not when Caribou is awful even in his inner thoughts. He might be funny but that is simply not enough to make him one of the crew. He is just too much of an asshole for that. And besides, what would his dream be? Capture all the mermaids of the world and sell them as slaves? I can totally see the crew helping him with that!I feel I need to clear something up.
I don't believe they will become friends. Allies and friends are different.
Compare Croc and Luffy. They allied for a select time, despite their differences, and clearly not liking each other. As Jerk Disease said, they teamed up due to the circumstances.
This is what I believe will happen with the Strawhats and Caribou. Anyone who thinks I meant that he would be their new nakama, with a dream and what not, misunderstood me.
Simply all I meant was, they would team up to help each other, for even a short amount of time. The same way Luffy teamed with Kidd.
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LOL Interesting. Thing is, no matter what Carobou may want, the SH's have to want it too, or it ain't happening. Everyone carrying on about Caribou joining or becoming a temp ally of the Straw Hats seem to leave that part of the equation out all the time. The SHs already figured him out. They weren't fooled the first time, and it's unlikely they will be fooled if and when they run into him again. Luffy is known for his ability to sum up a person within minutes of meeting, and thus far he has never been wrong. It's highly unlikely that anything will happen to make such a thing happen–and I find it hard to imagine Caribou could manage to come up with any sort of plan that would create a scenario that would force them to do so, either.
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Last time I'm responding to you Jerk Disease simply because it is extremely pointless to argue when neither of us can be right at this point.
No, you're clearly wrong, but it would be best if you stop arguing in favor of Caribou joining or becoming an ally.
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In fact we have been comparing them the whole time. You have been comparing their differences
That is called contrasting dumbass.
Originally Posted by Norisuke Higashikata IV
"Your stand is like your asshole. You can't go around showing it off to other people."
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Foxy needs more votes in this.
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