WB pirates, BB pirates or even New World Captains would be better.
or the 3 admirals. ^^
WB pirates, BB pirates or even New World Captains would be better.
or the 3 admirals. ^^
I think the colorspread was much needed. We see WB/BB in every chapter. If the Straw Hats aren't on the cover, then we don't get to see them at all. It's their story after all.
The color spread is nice in its own right, but Robin's waist doesn't really need to be the same size as her wrist. I normally like the exaggerated style that Nami and Robin are drawn, but that's overdoing it, Oda.
The color spread is nice in its own right, but Robin's waist doesn't really need to be the same size as her wrist. I normally like the exaggerated style that Nami and Robin are drawn, but that's overdoing it, Oda.
[HIdE]Nami joined after Sanji [/HidE] I don't think its that bad…
Why the hell would you want a Colorspread of them?
They suck.
Doma the guy with a monkey on his arm sucks ?…or Jack Sparrow with the weaponeater !?
Doma the guy with a monkey on his arm sucks ?…or Jack Sparrow with the weaponeater !?
Yep.
They're horrible.
I like the color spread, but I just wish that it had come at a different time while we get something with the BB crew, just because I want to see official colorings.
Is a cover story coming next? I don't really know how it works…
I like the color spread, but I just wish that it had come at a different time while we get something with the BB crew, just because I want to see official colorings.
Yeah me too, WB or BB pirates, but I guess Oda wants to remind us that the SHs still exist lol. I'm sure we'll get these war spreads when it's back to SH adventures. Unless ofcourse Oda is gonna drag this war out for a long time still, but tbh it shouldn't be long anymore. Luffy is pretty much out of the picture now.
Yeah BB spread would be overkill. And a close look at Abaro's arms please
[HIdE]Nami joined after Sanji [/HidE] I don't think its that bad…
Yeah, I know, you still think Oda is wrong about his own story. You don't need to remind me.
Yeah, I know, you still think Oda is wrong about his own story. You don't need to remind me.
Yeah and Usopp joined after Franky^^ :ninja:
xD
Dunno but people these days have really a strange look at OP. Crazy theories, crazy interpretation of Oda's story-telling and so on
Yeah, I know, you still think Oda is wrong about his own story. You don't need to remind me.
Okay, I will shut up then.
Anyway, on topic, Kizaru didn't get an appearance right?
Yeah and Usopp joined after Franky^^ :ninja:
xD
Dunno but people these days have really a strange look at OP. Crazy theories, crazy interpretation of Oda's story-telling and so on
Do you really think Jinbei will join?
KiZaru, Mihawk, Boa, Garp, DoFla, Moria, Mr 1 and some others didn't appeared as well…
More over... Does someonething as well that the NW-captains + crews were completely useless in this war? They were hyped at the beginning and than.
They shitted themselves against the PXs
No captain did major stuff
A bti like the zombie generals at TB
Do you really think Jinbei will join?
Congratulation!!! You are the first user after a long time on my ignore list.
:whistling:
Have a nice day. And PM if you will start to use your brain while posting
Congratulation!!! You are the first user after a long time on my ignore list.
:whistling:
Have a nice day. And PM if you will start to use your brain while posting
Overreacting much?
No^^ He is getting on my nerves over weeks now. But no on topic.
Still someone agree that the NW- captains were completely useless as I post before
Congratulation!!! You are the first user after a long time on my ignore list.
:whistling:
Have a nice day. And PM if you will start to use your brain while posting
How could someone on your ignore list PM you?
Good job Wintergt!
Loved it anyways especially the Akainu bit!
Yeah, I know, you still think Oda is wrong about his own story. You don't need to remind me.
wait up, what's this… expand plz
I feel sad now.
I only asked a not-Moria-related question.
Jeez.
Germans, these days.
wait up, what's this… expand plz
He thinks that Oda is wrong by saying that Nami was the second to join the crew, and that technically she was the fourth. Of course, he's pretty much alone on that belief from what I've seen. This came up when I mentioned that the color spread is arranged by the order in which they joined.
wait up, what's this… expand plz
Just a silly argument between me and Urouge in the spoilers for this chapter thread. If you are interested, start reading
! here^ Links to spoiler thread.
He thinks that Oda is wrong by saying that Nami was the second to join the crew, and that technically she was the fourth. Of course, he's pretty much alone on that belief from what I've seen. This came up when I mentioned that the color spread is arranged by the order in which they joined.
That was a cheap shot!! I should really make a thread about this and discuss it to death with you!!
I feel sad now.
I only asked a not-Moria-related question.
Jeez.
Germans, these days.
I think he put you on ignore because you lost your niche :ninja:
Posting about non-Moria-related content is sacrilege. Now, your next reply better be something about Moria.
He thinks that Oda is wrong by saying that Nami was the second to join the crew, and that technically she was the fourth. Of course, he's pretty much alone on that belief from what I've seen. This came up when I mentioned that the color spread is arranged by the order in which they joined.
I thought the only person in debate was Robin and whether she is 7 or 6.
I don't understand the "argument" when even Oda proves your wrong.
She's the 2nd person to join. The fact that she left because of her own problems doesn't mean Luffy (or Oda) acknowledged that she actually officially left the crew and then rejoined. Even if Oda acknowledged that and she did leave the crew and died she's still the 2nd person to join and nobody joining after that can be bumped up since keeping track of who joined any crew has nothing to do with if they leave immediately after joining.
I feel sad now.
I only asked a not-Moria-related question.
Jeez.
Germans, these days.
BekaDidAct ask a non-Moria related question!? WHAT!?
@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
I don't understand the "argument" when even Oda proves your wrong.
She's the 2nd person to join. The fact that she left because of her own problems doesn't mean Luffy (or Oda) acknowledged that she actually officially left the crew and then rejoined. Even if Oda acknowledged that and she did leave the crew and died she's still the 2nd person to join and nobody joining after that can be bumped up since keeping track of who joined any crew has nothing to do with if they leave immediately after joining.
I was merely trying to explain my beliefs that someone joining the crew is not a one sided decision, for Nami it was just a temporary alliance. Therefore, technically her recruitment wasn't complete until after Arlong Park when Luffy says "You are my Nakama" and she nods in agreement.
Whatever Oda says has nothing to do with it, because even I understand that Oda's words are final in his story. That still doesn't discount the fact that technically he is wrong.
I will not reply further in an attempt to not derail this thread. PM me if you still want to discuss, or make/ find an appropriate thread!!
I thought the only person in debate was Robin and whether she is 7 or 6.
Because of lack of a number and order of appearance? (I think you mean 6 or 5, since Franky was named the 7th). I always took it for granted that she was 6, and the color spread seems to support that.
Yeah, I think Oda confused the numbering in terms of Robin. I've always wondered if he debated on having Vivi join "officially" and was reserving a number for her, and then with Franky joining, he decided to give up on Vivi. Cause I'm sure at one point Robin was referred to as the 7th prior to the chapter "The Third and The Seventh" with Usopp and Franky.
kmohyudin - you're entitled to your belief, but while I understand you're trying to debate certain semantics of "when" the official joining occurred, the fact is that in this case, Nami was the second person to sail with the "crew", so she's #2. It's as simple as that. The numbers aren't for official joining but rather when they first sale with the crew, otherwise, how is Usopp #3 or is Oda wrong on that too?
Yeah, I think Oda confused the numbering in terms of Robin. I've always wondered if he debated on having Vivi join "officially" and was reserving a number for her, and then with Franky joining, he decided to give up on Vivi. Cause I'm sure at one point Robin was referred to as the 7th prior to the chapter "The Third and The Seventh" with Usopp and Franky.
I think you're thinking of the anime episode in which Robin joined, which was titled "Beware Her Scent! The Seventh One is Nico Robin." But yeah, I always assumed he considers their joining to be when they started sailing with Luffy as a part of the crew.
you're entitled to your belief, but while I understand you're trying to debate certain semantics of "when" the official joining occurred, the fact is that in this case, Nami was the second person to sail with the "crew", so she's #2. It's as simple as that. The numbers aren't for official joining but rather when they first sale with the crew, otherwise, how is Usopp #3 or is Oda wrong on that too?
Thank you!!! That's all I was saying.
I think you're thinking of the anime episode in which Robin joined, which was titled "Beware Her Scent! The Seventh One is Nico Robin." But yeah, I always assumed he considers it to be when they started sailing with Luffy as a part of the crew.
You could've said that in the beginning you know…
I was merely trying to explain my beliefs that someone joining the crew is not a one sided decision, for Nami it was just a temporary alliance. Therefore, technically her recruitment wasn't complete until after Arlong Park when Luffy says "You are my Nakama" and she nods in agreement.
Whatever Oda says has nothing to do with it, because even I understand that Oda's words are final in his story. That still doesn't discount the fact that technically he is wrong.
I will not reply further in an attempt to not derail this thread. PM me if you still want to discuss, or make/ find an appropriate thread!!
She acquiesced when asked to join. Whatever she thought it was gonna be is irrelevant. She didn't say "this is a temporary alliance" or "I'll hang out with you guys for now"
Her joining the crew wasn't one sided at all.
I think you're thinking of the anime episode in which Robin joined, which was titled "Beware Her Scent! The Seventh One is Nico Robin." But yeah, I always assumed he considers their joining to be when they started sailing with Luffy as a part of the crew.
Perhaps that is a big part of my confusion. I did start with the anime first :happy:
So, back on my other confusion with Jinbei and his non-abilities.
I'm guessing the consensus is that he cannot harm logia users, or perhps Akainu is just a special case I've failed to consider. hmmm….
Perhaps that is a big part of my confusion. I did start with the anime first :happy:
So, back on my other confusion with Jinbei and his
non-abilities.
I'm guessing the consensus is that he cannot harm logia users, or perhps Akainu is just a special case I've failed to consider. hmmm….
I think he can't harm Logia and his fight with Ace was before he ate DF.
Perhaps that is a big part of my confusion. I did start with the anime first :happy:
So, back on my other confusion with Jinbei and his
non-abilities.
I'm guessing the consensus is that he cannot harm logia users, or perhps Akainu is just a special case I've failed to consider. hmmm….
Two possible explanations that assume that Jinbei can hit logias:
A powerful logia can still dodge by deforming his own body. So, Jinbei tried to hit Akainu, but Akainu opened a path in his own body to avoid the blow. Kinda like Aokiji avoided being hit by Whitebeard's spear during the war (remember when the pirates were all shouting "Oh, Aokiji was killed by a haki-infused spear"?)
Akainu is just that badass. Just like a powerful fighter can shrug the effects of a punch, a powerful logia can still be hit and harmed by certain attacks, but be resilient enough to continue fighting as nothing happened. Only by extended exposure to damage he'd begin to feel his body faltering. This is supported by the fact that Akainu has taken several blows from Whitebeard and was still able to fight. Also, Akainu was hit by haki users (Vista and Marco) and could still fight. So, Jinbei actually hit Akainu with that punch, but Akainu just felt a little pain and kept attacking like nothing happened.
Just because someone can hit a logia doesn't mean he will be effective against it, right?
This is really good theory. I wasn't assuming being able to hit a logia user was the end, I was just trying to decipher from all the information Oda has given us where Jinbei stands. For example, it's clear from Marco and Vista's attacks that they can harm Akainu's body. But these types of comments are never used with Jinbei's attacks against Akainu. Yet, we've seen Jinbei block Akainu's attacks and we know Jinbei has fought with Ace.
There is the possibility Ace didn't have his fruit, but I find that very unlikely given that it seemed to be around the same time Ace first confronted WB.
I think he can't harm Logia and his fight with Ace was before he ate DF.
He did eat it. when Whitebeard shows up, he makes a flame net for his crewmembers to escape.
No, it's not possible that Ace didn't have his fruit. He used his fruit immediately after, in the fight against Whitebeard. :wassat:
Also, a possible reason why he hurt Ace in their fight was because the fight was near the sea, and water is quite useful for putting our Fire, especially if you can judo throw it.
@S.C.:
He did eat it. when Whitebeard shows up, he makes a flame net for his crewmembers to escape.
No, it's not possible that Ace didn't have his fruit. He used his fruit immediately after, in the fight against Whitebeard. :wassat:
I will have to reread that chapter… cuz I always thought there was an indeterminable pause between the two events...
I will have to reread that chapter… cuz I always thought there was an indeterminable pause between the two events...
Here you are;
@S.C.:
Here you are;
I saw this as Ace meets Shanks, call for celebration - time skip - Ace fights Jimbei, goes on for 5 days - time skip - Ace challenges WB, loses and ENJOUNOU or whatever…
Perhaps I am wrong? Whatever, not going to argue on this one.
Thanks for the link though.
The page before implies that he already had his logia powers (his Jolly Roger has fire in it and the marine mentions to Sengoku that this unknown rookie has a logia power).
I saw this as Ace meets Shanks, call for celebration - time skip - Ace fights Jimbei, goes on for 5 days - time skip - Ace challenges WB, loses and ENJOUNOU or whatever…
Perhaps I am wrong? Whatever, not going to argue on this one.
Thanks for the link though.
So, by your logic, Ace, during his fight with Jinbei, sees the Mera Mera no Mi and eats it? And there wasn't a time skip after the fight. Both collapse, and then Whitebeard shows up.
@S.C.:
So, by your logic, Ace, during his fight with Jinbei, sees the Mera Mera no Mi and eats it? And there wasn't a time skip after the fight. Both collapse, and then Whitebeard shows up.
Ah no, there was a time skip, but this is not my logic, this is how I read it (in the past), I am not sure now.
I don't see a timeskip between the Jinbei fight and the coming of Whitebeard. When WB's ship arrives, you can see both Jinbei (big black blot) and Ace (small black blot) on the floor just ahead of the ship. Then WB attacks Ace's crew and Ace summons his powers to fight Whitebeard.
I don't see a timeskip between the Jinbei fight and the coming of Whitebeard. When WB's ship arrives, you can see both Jinbei (big black blot) and Ace (small black blot) on the floor just ahead of the ship. Then WB attacks Ace's crew and Ace summons his powers to fight Whitebeard.
Those are Jimbei and Ace?? I always thought those were rocks!! If that is true, then I am definitely wrong!!
Well, that's how I understood the scene. They're black blots, so I guess it's up to interpretation. Anyway, Ace seems to have his abilities already, since the marines mention he's a logia user a few pages before: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/552/06/
Well, that's how I understood the scene. They're black blots, so I guess it's up to interpretation. Anyway, Ace seems to have his abilities already, since the marines mention he's a logia user a few pages before: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/552/06/
Yeah I read that when you mentioned this before. So, I guess you all have a better chance of being right then.