since daddy died, marco the oldest is the man in the house now (can you say that in english? the germans here will get what i mean)
It's 'man of the house' in english.
since daddy died, marco the oldest is the man in the house now (can you say that in english? the germans here will get what i mean)
It's 'man of the house' in english.
@Cyan:
So either take the Sunny Pirates route and split up (…I have a feeling Squad will end up like Arlong...) or join the Revolutionaries.
...I'm going with the Revolutionaries solely because I want to see how the old-school pirates work with the hip Revos and their pimp of a leader.
Break up? Not a chance. Look at what has happened to WB's territories. WB made alotta enemies. I'm sure there are many pirates out there that'd relish the chance to get revenge on WB's crew, now that he isn't around.
They are stronger as a group, than if they split up.
Either that or they hooked up with Shanks. Not necessarily becoming his crew, but an ally who're under his protection now.
I really don't think this is a difficult question.
I think the Whitebeard Pirates will split up. Some will start their own crews with former members, others will join other Pirate Crews and others may retire and do other things.
It will likely be similar to what happened with Roger's Crew or Brook's old crew when their captain died.
I really don't think this is a difficult question.
I think the Whitebeard Pirates will split up. Some will start their own crews with former members, others will join other Pirate Crews and others may retire and do other things.
It will likely be similar to what happened with Roger's Crew or Brook's old crew when their captain died.
When Calico died took the ship and tried to go out of the Grand Line, Brooke was ascended to Captain, and they keept Rumbeando untill the poison weapon crew.
They are going to ascend the Chainchomp, Trapchan, Heman, Peter pan's sister, nipple hammer, funky hat, cigar gezzer, giant commander, or vista to Captain.
Or split in various crews with different objectives, vengance, protecting as much of the WB islands as possible, or regular piracy.
I really don't think this is a difficult question.
I think the Whitebeard Pirates will split up. Some will start their own crews with former members, others will join other Pirate Crews and others may retire and do other things.
It will likely be similar to what happened with Roger's Crew or Brook's old crew when their captain died.
This situation is different. Buggy & Shanks were complete unknown rookies back then. No one knew them, or their connection to Roger. They are the only 2 we know of that became Pirates.
Marco said in that flashback, that the world hates them. Crocodile said in Impel Down, how there are 1000s of pirates out there who choke back the tears from their failure to beat Roger or Whitebeard. Its pretty clear, WB's crew made a ton of enemies, people who'd love nothing more than to take down any 1 of his commanders if they could.
There is no reason at all for WB's commanders to split up and form their own crews. It makes no sense at all, not in the current climate where the world has changed, WB is gone, his terroritories are fair game, chaos everywhere. They still have a part to play in the story in the future, there is no doubt about it.
Croc can take this. Just say sth good in the funeral !
I am relying on the possibility that the 4th Yonkou, Big Mom, will take over the WB pirates and name them "The 2nd Division of the Big Pirates".
Marco Jozu,and Vista are strong and competent enough to keep the crew together and take back their territory. If Ace was alive they could have used his heritage and Whitebeards Will to keep their territory.
@El:
Marco Jozu,and Vista are strong and competent enough to keep the crew together and take back their territory. If Ace was alive they could have used his heritage and Whitebeards Will to keep their territory.
but hes not alive!!! lol i think it will be hard for them to work together as co leaders they have to split up …probably on good terms but still split up
Marco and Jozu are probably infamous pirates in their on right . Marco is very strong already to be able fight Akainu evenly,and Tie with Kizaru. All Jozu needs to do is heal up and since he is a logia ( yes he is one ) that won't be to hard. Vista is in good shape plus he fought Mihawk and survived a feat not many people can probably boast about. They can easily carry the crew back up to prominence all they have to do is squash a few of the usurpers and watch out for Kaidou .
marco, jozu and vista and all other commanders are strong but they arent as destructive as WB power-wise… and people fear wb not marco or jozu so they'll have their hands full trying to get back wb's territories
hmmm, Marco and Jozu should be able to take back WB's territories since they are strong and good enough to fight even the admirals…
Unless the enemy are stronger than the admirals, they should not feared Marco, Jozu, and co..
marco should lead them and take the name WHITEBIRD..
when gol. D dies the crew also vanished in every direction of the heaven..
i think it will be here the same..some will stay pirates (like marco and jozu for sure) some will do differnet things.
but they will never forget their best time of their life^^
At any rate, at least Vista and Jozu will still be around, if only as testing gauges for Zoro in how far he progresses with Vista and the diamond cutting foreshadowing with Jozu.
@El:
All Jozu needs to do is heal up and since he is a logia ( yes he is one ) that won't be to hard.
Putting aside the fact that I think it's pretty clear that Jozu is a Paramecia, how does being a Logia help your healing ability? The only Devil Fruit with self-heal and regeneration abilities that has been shown so far is Marco's phoenix thingy.
@El:
Vista is in good shape plus he fought Mihawk and survived a feat not many people can probably boast about. They can easily carry the crew back up to prominence all they have to do is squash a few of the usurpers and watch out for Kaidou .
While the WB crew undoubtedly still is a force to reckon with, they were called Whitebeard Pirates for a reason. Whitebeard was called the strongest man in the world, and I can't see WB pirates retaining their status with WB dead and gone.
they'll disband.. whitebeard is dead..
They'll be re-named the Phoenix Pirates. Other then that the rest of my thoughts are the same as below.
Pheonix pirates? Sounds familiar….:wassat:
Hopefully they will find a new leader who will rise to stardom...
Or maybe they will join with the foxy pirates luffy won and form a new division under the sraw hats!
..... Or not.
Top of the page. am pretty sure Marco will lead. I leave Everything to you.
Pheonix pirates? Sounds familiar….:wassat:
Hopefully they will find a new leader who will rise to stardom...
Or maybe they will join with the foxy pirates luffy won and form a new division under the sraw hats!
..... Or not.
if your not being sarcastic…
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Phoenix_Pirates
sorry Marco
I am still in for Croc, the Ao Kiji development can even help him gain their respect.
croco ? he defeated by jozu with ONE HIT ,
and he is not strong like admiral level
(he defeated by luffy and without gear2:blink: )
so you are saying he can be captain of Vista,Jozu and Marco ?
They will aid Luffy as an ally later.
maybe they will not disband..marco for captain, jozu as vice..
luffy will fight marco, zoro now has a chance to cut diamonds..lol
but since they will be most likely allies, this will not happen..
maybe they will disband so jozu and vista will become enemies for zoro to cut :)
They are totally splitting up. No more yonkou-times for these guys.
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Marco and the surviving whitebeard pirates post war.
they are still referred as one of the Yonkou.
So yes Marco is the captain and his now one of the yonkou.
He said either one of the four Yonkou OR Marco and the remains of Shirohige Kaizokudan. And the "you" that was mentioned in the upper panel, was referred to all of his sons.
At least that´s my point of view.
He said either one of the four Yonkou OR Marco and the remains of Shirohige Kaizokudan. And the "you" that was mentioned in the upper panel, was referred to all of his sons.
At least that´s my point of view.
The remains meaning the surviving whitebeard pirates after the war.
And the only Reason why Marco is More emphasized is because he has a HUGE reason to take him down now.
He will be one of the people trying to Kill him.
there's is no one else in the entire world besides Marco, Shanks, Big Mom, and Kaido who can be referred to as a yonkou.(immediately after the war)
Blackbeard is still a runner up as the Five elder star have mentioned.(he was not a yonkou at that time yet, even if he is one now after time skip)
and the YOU is Whitebeard/oda Sending us a message to who will be in charge of the pirate crew.
that's the reason why we get a picture of Marco and Whitebeard Saying, "i leave everything to you".
Learn to read. He's referring to all of his sons when he makes that statement. And we have no idea about multitudes of strong pirates in the NW. There are plenty of options for a Yonkou following the death of Whitebeard, we just don't know them yet.
Learn to read. He's referring to all of his sons when he makes that statement. And we have no idea about multitudes of strong pirates in the NW. There are plenty of options for a Yonkou following the death of Whitebeard, we just don't know them yet.
Hmmmm… seems like I'm wasting my time with you guys, if your still denying who Whitebeard is leaving everything to.
and the part about plenty of options for yonkou after whitebeards death. Counting Marco out of position to be a yonkou while knowing that the Elder stars still consider him the most likely guy to take Blackbeard out besides the other yonkou means his still in a position to challenge Blackbeard and has Control of the whitebeard commanders.
We have seen the whitebeard allies and Commanders in action counting them out of the yonkou spot would be Ludicrous.
So, Whitebeard Pirates or Marco Pirates?
So, Whitebeard Pirates or Marco Pirates?
We dont know for sure but from what we have so far it's still whitebeard pirates who now might have a new captain(Marco).
i don't think they would start calling themselves the phoenix pirate or Marco pirates.
Whitebeard pirates title would stay.
WB always thought of the crew to be his sons, so there should be someone taking his place. According to the old rules, it should be his first mate or the oldest son (which is practically nonesense, so I think Marco will lead the rest of the crew). That should not be a problem, because they more then a less have always been spread on different ships all across the oceans; each crew with a leader / captain / division commander. So it's not like there running around not knowing what to do, they always did things themselves. I think the Moby Dick (at least lookalike ship) will be rebuild, and the commander of that ship (and that should be Marco) will be the new captain.
If the WB-crew got disbanded, it would be against everything WB stood for. That would be disbanding family…
I think they might split in to different ships according to their divisions and work seperately
Marco a younkou is as laughable as Usopp claiming to be the capatain of the crew. Wait it's not nearly as funny jus kinda sad. I think even shanks would destroy Marco if he became Yonkou. All respect to whitebeard aside shanks still is a yonkou and wouldn't allow marco to try and take Wb's postion.
I think Jozu and Marco will spilt the crew into two and chase BB. Try and get him out of WB's old territory.
I can see the Wb pirates testing the Straw hats crew progress. Zoro will try to defeat Vista and Jozu and Luffy fighting Marco.
To be more sarcastic, Marco leading the remenant is a joke seeing how he was so incompetent during the war.
I imagine that Marco will become the next captain of the Whitebeard Pirates and I imagine they'll keep that name in honor of the old man, but Whitebeard's death shattered his crew's position amongst the Yonkou, and I believe it will be some time (longer than the 2-year timeskip since Marineford) before Marco can build up the personal power and sovereignty necessary to properly attempt to reclaim Whitebeard's former territories.
Not to mention that it's fully possible that those territories have been subsumed into the realms of the other Yonkou (Big Mom and Kaidou specifically), claimed by one of the New World's lesser powers, one of the up-and-coming Supernovae, or by Blackbeard himself.
Any of those would likely force a conflict, possibly of cataclysmic proportions, and with Blackbeard's direct role in Newgate's and Ace's deaths, I think it's possible that Marco would view the elimination of Teach as a top priority, above even securing and stabilizing Whitebeard's former territories under his protection.
Marco will lead em. They'll probably see it as their duty to fullfill Ace's last will by helping Luffy out in the future. After all they did say "Ace's family is our family" - they were willing to sacrifice their own lives to make sure Luffy got outta Marineford alive.
Also, Marco is awesome, don't be hatin on the Phoenix. The war didn't exactly do him any justice.
Marco will lead em. They'll probably see it as their duty to fullfill Ace's last will by helping Luffy out in the future. After all they did say "Ace's family is our family" - they were willing to sacrifice their own lives to make sure Luffy got outta Marineford alive.
Also, Marco is awesome, don't be hatin on the Phoenix. The war didn't exactly do him any justice.
He is awesome but its kind of Oda's fault for not willing to expose too much his abilities (more to come in the NW). I have noticed that he did that with most of the schibukais (Mihawk, Hancock and Doflamingo).
On the one hand, I imagine that they'd really stick together. I mean, they were essentially like family… and I'd like to think that that wasn't just because they shared a mutual "father" and without him they didn't really have any loyalty to each other. No, that sounds terrible.
But on the other hand, a new crew consisting only of the commanders, led by Marco... might give Oda time to flesh them out a bit more. I dunno to what extent he intends to do that, but personally I'd really like to know more about at least some of them. And, it would make their (probably) inevitable confrontation with BB more easily managed, I guess.
On the one hand, I imagine that they'd really stick together. I mean, they were essentially like family… and I'd like to think that that wasn't just because they shared a mutual "father" and without him they didn't really have any loyalty to each other. No, that sounds terrible.
But on the other hand, a new crew consisting only of the commanders, led by Marco... might give Oda time to flesh them out a bit more. I dunno to what extent he intends to do that, but personally I'd really like to know more about at least some of them. And, it would make their (probably) inevitable confrontation with BB more easily managed, I guess.
I very much doubt the current WB pirates will ever face off against BB. They're not stupid - they know him better than anyone…they know how strong he is with his 2 DF powers....
You think? I rather imagine Marco wanting nothing more than to pound his face in, at this point. He's the one who killed both Whitebeard and Thatch. I'm thinking that Oda might show BB's battle with Marco in the same way he showed BB and Ace's, since he said he would elaborate on Marco's regeneration in the future and I don't really know who else Marco could have an on-screen fight with to be honest.
Shanks would be wise to ally with the WB pirates to take down BB, but I guess the way of the pirate would be not to get involved in another crew's vendetta. Although I think BB's crew might want to eliminate all the competition, which includes Shanks and the WB remnants, in order become the unopposed pirate king. I can see him trying to do that too.
Blackbeard definitely wants to fight Shanks. Whether it's because he'll need to to attain his title (or thinks he does, anyway, whether it's actually the case or not) or because of the relationship they already have… I dunno, but there's a reason he said "It's not the time just yet to be taking on the likes of you…!!". It's practically a written-in-the-stars fight, as I see it.
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they are still referred as one of the Yonkou.So yes Marco is the captain and his now one of the yonkou.
"As for entities capable of stopping his advance… I'd have to say the four emperors or perhaps Marco the Phoenix and the remains of the Whitebeard pirates."
You could even make a case for a mystery Yonkou, since it separates the Yonkou and Marco.
Also, just for shits&giggles. You'll notice beardy 5 star on the left talking about waiting for the New World to settle down before they elect a new influential person. Seems strange that glasses 5 star says they need 3 shichibukai. Why just one? Are they trying to hand pick their own Yonkou pawn? Should be posted in the Theories thread, so I apologize.
"As for entities capable of stopping his advance… I'd have to say the four emperors or perhaps Marco the Phoenix and the remains of the Whitebeard pirates."
You could even make a case for a mystery Yonkou, since it separates the Yonkou and Marco.
Also, just for shits&giggles. You'll notice beardy 5 star on the left talking about waiting for the New World to settle down before they elect a new influential person. Seems strange that glasses 5 star says they need 3 shichibukai. Why just one? Are they trying to hand pick their own Yonkou pawn? Should be posted in the Theories thread, so I apologize.
16 chars of Captain Buggy
You'll notice beardy 5 star on the left talking about waiting for the New World to settle down before they elect a new influential person. Seems strange that glasses 5 star says they need 3 shichibukai. Why just one? Are they trying to hand pick their own Yonkou pawn? Should be posted in the Theories thread, so I apologize.
Japanese has no distinction between plural and singular. So the left-most elder star is still talking about the 3 shichibukai positions.
Blackbeard definitely wants to fight Shanks. Whether it's because he'll need to to attain his title (or thinks he does, anyway, whether it's actually the case or not) or because of the relationship they already have… I dunno, but there's a reason he said "It's not the time just yet to be taking on the likes of you…!!". It's practically a written-in-the-stars fight, as I see it.
BB doesn't want the title of a yonkou, he has higher plans (ruling the world would mean becoming the PK, I think). He only title he wanted was that of a Shichibukai in order to free the strongest prisoners of ID (he said himself, it was all a plan to get there, 'cause "ordinary pirates" do not get inside without getting imprisoned).
And I can't imagine Shanks & rest of WB-crew vs. BB, if a fight happens it'll surely be SHC&WB-crew vs. BB. They both have a grudge against BB. No need to explain the reason for that, I think…
I know he doesn't want to become an Emperor. By title, I meant that of pirate king; pretty sure that's what he's going for.
Emperor Marco…