About the supernovas-minus-2. They were frightened by the idea of fighting 1 Admiral. Just only 1! And now if they go to marineford they will fight 3, plus Shichibukai, vice-admirals, plus pacifistas!!! What's up with that suddenly change!? It wouldn't make sense if they join the war… Let's hope they go to the NW now.
Chapter 565 "Path of Oars" Discussion
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To see the Moby Dick destroyed was really hard. Now I have a bad feeling about Shirohige surviving this war.
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About the supernovas-minus-2. They were frightened by the idea of fighting 1 Admiral. Just only 1! And now if they go to marineford they will fight 3, plus Shichibukai, vice-admirals, plus pacifistas!!! What's up with that suddenly change!? It wouldn't make sense if they join the war… Let's hope they go to the NW now.
The incident at Shabody was avoidable, unlike Luffy they had no reason to cause trouble and no reason to provoke an admiral. So, they didn't fight.
This has been mentioned before, people who say things like this are missing smaller details. The Supernovas want One Piece, and to be Pirate King. With a goal like that, butting heads with the top marines is unavoidable in the long term. Here, Whitebeard who they clearing respect is getting a bum deal. So, they go to Marineford to fight.
Also, they won't be fighting the admirals, saying that is the same mistake people made with Luffy–I can't believe people don't learn! Just as Luffy hasn't been fighting alone, the supernova won't be fighting alone. They'll be fighting with Whitebeard. Yes, there's still a risk of death, but it's in their character to put certain thing ahead of that.
Think of this event like this. The Supernova are patriots for piracy. Whitebeard is your home country. The marines are attacking your home country. You, being a patriot, join the army and go to war. Yes, there's a great risk of death, but not fighting is against you're beliefs and ideals! It's something more then being afraid to die.
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About the supernovas-minus-2. They were frightened by the idea of fighting 1 Admiral. Just only 1! And now if they go to marineford they will fight 3, plus Shichibukai, vice-admirals, plus pacifistas!!! What's up with that suddenly change!? It wouldn't make sense if they join the war… Let's hope they go to the NW now.
Whitebeard is an icon in pirate business no matter if they hate him or like him.If he falls that will be a great blow in the crutches of piratesm.WG may even begin a great pirate hunt after their biggest hero&protector falls.Probably they are afraid as hell but going there anyway.
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^He said it to Mad Wanze who said in the chapter 0 spoiler thread that chapter 0 wasn't canon.
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=1371571&postcount=434
Zkaiser is saying he's wrong by bringing up Mad Wanze's incorrect statement from the spoiler thread. -
The trump card is that Whitebeard will ride on Phoenix-form Marco, while holding a full-diamond-body Jozu as a shield, and charge in the air like a knight with a lance :)
You heard it here first!
I would shit den den mushis and pure seastone if this comes true :blink:
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^He said it to Mad Wanze who said in the chapter 0 spoiler thread that chapter 0 wasn't canon.
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=1371571&postcount=434
Zkaiser is saying he's wrong by bringing up Mad Wanze's incorrect statement from the spoiler thread.I see. Thanks for explaining that.
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Luffy/Strawhats vs Akainu is going to be great when it eventually happens. Oda is fantastic at building characters up over a large period of time.
I'm hoping for Straw Hat Monster trio vs. Admiral trio myself. You can laugh but it would be the ultimate evolution of such a popular crew dynamic and the amount of development to make it reasonable and epic…><
Great chapter. That last spread gave me orgasms.
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The incident at Shabody was avoidable, unlike Luffy they had no reason to cause trouble and no reason to provoke an admiral. So, they didn't fight.
This has been mentioned before, people who say things like this are missing smaller details. The Supernovas want One Piece, and to be Pirate King. With a goal like that, butting heads with the top marines is unavoidable in the long term. Here, Whitebeard who they clearing respect is getting a bum deal. So, they go to Marineford to fight.
Also, they won't be fighting the admirals, saying that is the same mistake people made with Luffy–I can't believe people don't learn! Just as Luffy hasn't been fighting alone, the supernova won't be fighting alone. They'll be fighting with Whitebeard. Yes, there's still a risk of death, but it's in their character to put certain thing ahead of that.
Think of this event like this. The Supernova are patriots for piracy. Whitebeard is your home country. The marines are attacking your home country. You, being a patriot, join the army and go to war. Yes, there's a great risk of death, but not fighting is against you're beliefs and ideals! It's something more then being afraid to die.
While they might not have to fight the admirals there still the warlords and the px army . But if they do join the war they going to be coming from behind which means they should have to fight the PX army .
I don't really care if they join or not but the 3 admirals are not only people on the battle filed that would give them trouble .
Just remember how much trouble they had vs a px . the marines really do have the upper hand right now. -
sorry but I TL;DR page 7 and up….
Have we already discussed why Bonney was crying?? Kind of made me curious about her background.
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@Thousand:
I'm hoping for Straw Hat Monster trio vs. Admiral trio myself. You can laugh but it would be the ultimate evolution of such a popular crew dynamic and the amount of development to make it reasonable and epic…><
Great chapter. That last spread gave me orgasms.
if that was to happen id think it would be Luffy vs Aokiji, Zoro vs. Kizaru and Sanji vs Akainu… seems about right
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565 was also great for the sole reason that it's moved Luffy into a significant and climactic location. This battle actually has pace and each chapter seems to take it to the next phase of the battle. It's such a nice comparison to how Bleach has dealt with its "war": 3 years of manga chapters featuring a series of asspull one-on-ones. The last three or four chapters have had Ichigo going through a tunnel and Byakuya and Kenpachi doing the same thing over and over again to a giant gorilla.
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if that was to happen id think it would be Luffy vs Aokiji, Zoro vs. Kizaru and Sanji vs Akainu… seems about right
None of them can even hit their opponent. Also Sanji is prolly the weakest of the three, and akainu the strongest (just basing that on the fact that akainu takes in the alpha ie middle position on every admiral achievement and was strong enough to be part of Sengoku's secret plan) and they're being paired off? Yikes.
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I got a feeling the TRUMP CARD is THE
SUPER WHITEBEARD ROBO FORMATION:
Marco Right hand, Jozu Left hand, Decalvan brothers both Legs… Whitebeard Center piece/Head.
GO GO GO WHITEBEARD ROBoooooOOOOO... XD
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None of them can even hit their opponent. Also Sanji is prolly the weakest of the three, and akainu the strongest (just basing that on the fact that akainu takes in the alpha ie middle position on every admiral achievement and was strong enough to be part of Sengoku's secret plan) and they're being paired off? Yikes.
Well being a Chef fire serves him and he is aware of its dangers. Besides for Sanji and Zoro to survive in the new world they would need to learn to use haki to hit some of the more elite DF users in there. Don't say it wont happen because if they can't they serve no purpose going there.
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None of them can even hit their opponent. Also Sanji is prolly the weakest of the three, and akainu the strongest (just basing that on the fact that akainu takes in the alpha ie middle position on every admiral achievement and was strong enough to be part of Sengoku's secret plan) and they're being paired off? Yikes.
i dont see how lying to a pirate takes any power (but you may be talking about raining down magma meteors) i just havent gotten any impression that he was the strongest out of all of them… anyway back on topic the trump card is going to take the strength of both Oars Jr and Jos so its going to be epicly big. Maybe WB having Oars throw Jos at someone? ....its all i could come up with
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Have we already discussed why Bonney was crying?? Kind of made me curious about her background.
You know I'm actually really curious about this too, I'm wondering if there's someone important to her among the pirates fighting now, maybe a brother or sister? She seems more worried than the other supernovas.
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How come frozen mast no hurt Akainu? Even a little water on fist = ow for Croc.
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i dont see how lying to a pirate takes any power (but you may be talking about raining down magma meteors
Yes, the meteors, Sengoku said to proceed with the plan and he had to shoot his meteors.
i just havent gotten any impression that he was the strongest out of all of them…
It may seem a bit flimsy but Akainu keeps taking the middle position amongst the admirals, which is the leadership/strongest position.
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@Moby:
To see the Moby Dick destroyed was really hard. Now I have a bad feeling about Shirohige surviving this war.
I feel this way too. I can't help but wonder if the destruction of the Moby Dick is an omen, somehow. They've had that ship a long time. This could be Whitebeard's last stand.
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damn, it was a good read… but luffy against 3 admirals and two of them are logia's...
how could he beat the crap of those 3..
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People seriously think Akainu isn't a Logia?
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@Fire Fist:
People seriously think Akainu isn't a Logia?
Maybe It will be confirmed next chapter.
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How come frozen mast no hurt Akainu? Even a little water on fist = ow for Croc.
Well Crocodile needed to be able to turn to sand, and even a splash of water makes sand less… sandy. If you got a raging fire going, like a house burning, you'd have to tip a hell of a lot of water on it in one go to make a difference. Or, to put it another way, if you get a hot plate and splash water around it, then turn it on. It just fizzles and evaporates the water. So basically, as soon as he turns to fire, he'd just evaporate the water that's on him. I guess, being scientific, if he was deep underwater, or in a vacuum, he would be able to use fire.
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People need to stop hanging onto the quotes of the general dissenters. Many of them are just quoting a line without getting what it means, in this case Nyon's words are just meant to give us an idea of how extreme the situation is.
Yet, considering Luffy has proven too strong to be beaten by the foot soldiers in this war, while proving barely strong enough to survive the top fighters here, is calling him an ant really the right term? I'd say he's more of an energetic soldier then anything. An ant implies he's at the bottom when he's more in the middle here.
I also look forward to seeing Apoo pull a prank on Sengoku. This must happen.
Oh yeah, and everyone who thinks the supernova shouldn't join the war cause it's scary and they're risking their lives need to change how they think, cause that's not how these characters think at all. If they were afraid to take risks for stuff they believe in, they wouldn't be pirates. They also don't believe they can't do anything–that entire belief comes from the readers who keep calling Luffy an ant! Stop projecting your beliefs on these characters.
They aren't beliefs cause the war shows it's a reality.
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Well Crocodile needed to be able to turn to sand, and even a splash of water makes sand less… sandy. If you got a raging fire going, like a house burning, you'd have to tip a hell of a lot of water on it in one go to make a difference. Or, to put it another way, if you get a hot plate and splash water around it, then turn it on. It just fizzles and evaporates the water. So basically, as soon as he turns to fire, he'd just evaporate the water that's on him. I guess, being scientific, if he was deep underwater, or in a vacuum, he would be able to use fire.
He didnuh turn to fire… or if he did, it'd have been unviewably and only part of his body, which makes it seem like Oda didn't have that explanation in mind as something we should gather from the image
It's also remotely possible that the explosions in front of him are just them hitting the ground, but still looks like it's just hittin his bod
Bad oda, not offering any obvious explanation!
But Luffy had the right idea... try to hit Aokiji into Akainu for ice + magma owies... then try to kick frozen stuff at em, including the guy weak to it... Oda just didn't make it work for reasons unknown/unshown -
i would say that akainu was so hot, that the frozen tree melted and also akainu was hard as cold lava so that it bursted..
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…Are people here saying ice is going to work against magma?! Ace, maybe, but Akainu?! Magma?! Ice > Magma?! What science classes did you guys skip?!
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I'm gonna go throw some ice cubes into an erupting volcano and see if it'll help anything. And something I just thought of: Akainu is hot, Aokiji is cool, and Kizaru is bright .
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@Kairouseki:
And something I just thought of: Akainu is hot, Aokiji is cool, and Kizaru is bright .
They are three suave motherfuckers.
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…Are people here saying ice is going to work against magma?! Ace, maybe, but Akainu?! Magma?! Ice > Magma?! What science classes did you guys skip?!
The one that explains how a few drops of water affect Crocodile
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I didn't read the whole thread, has anyone pointed a good explanation to why the SN are still free on Shabondi ???
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Kizaru and Sentomaru were busy with Rayleigh. Pacifista's are beatable, so they could have easily gone to ground while Kizaru was busy. Give the execution, Kizaru hardly had the time to search around for them
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Kidd even mentions sailing back to watch the execution. So presumably they got the hell out of dodge for a few days and came back when all the Marine attention was focused on the war.
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The trump card is that Whitebeard will ride on Phoenix-form Marco, while holding a full-diamond-body Jozu as a shield, and charge in the air like a knight with a lance :)
You heard it here first!
That would actually be pretty damned awesome.
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Gan Fall cranked up to eleven? I'm in.
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That would actually be pretty damned awesome.
Hope so much that that will happen!
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Not sure what you mean by that.
He's referring to Whitebeard charging in like a flying knight (in silvers' post) is much like Gun Fall, just much, much, cooler.
Cranked up to 11 is a rock n' roll term to crank the volume higher than the max (10). -
He's referring to Whitebeard charging in like a flying knight (in silvers' post) is much like Gun Fall, just much, much, cooler.
Cranked up to 11 is a rock n' roll term to crank the volume higher than the max (10).Thanks man. No idea that it meant something of that sort.
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…Are people here saying ice is going to work against magma?! Ace, maybe, but Akainu?! Magma?! Ice > Magma?! What science classes did you guys skip?!
Possibly the same one that Oda skipped when he decided to say that being rubber would make Luffy immune to Enel's ability. ;)
While it's true that lightning would have a hard time striking Luffy, if Enel were to grab him or just flood the area Luffy's in with lightning (he is the lightning so he should just be able to blast him like when he does his Judgement attack), Luffy's rubber body would be unable to conduct the electricity, massive heat would build up and Luffy would turn to soup or even steam. Or so I hear, anyway.
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He's referring to Whitebeard charging in like a flying knight (in silvers' post) is much like Gun Fall, just much, much, cooler.
Cranked up to 11 is a rock n' roll term to crank the volume higher than the max (10).wow, i never would have figured that out
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Well the idea of turning it up to 11 is from This is Spinal Tap, a movie taking the piss out of heavy metal bands.
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After seeing Akainu wrecking the Moby like that, I really dont see how the hell is anyone getting outta there after the war is over. I'm sure that Magma brat could sink all of the NW ships just as easily
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…Are people here saying ice is going to work against magma?! Ace, maybe, but Akainu?! Magma?! Ice > Magma?! What science classes did you guys skip?!
I skippied parts of Pokemon, Unlike you.
Sorry, But the Pokemon strengh chart, isn't always working.You're retareded if you make a statemen like "Ice > Magma"
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@GREK:
You're retareded if you make a statemen like "Ice > Magma"
He said the exact opposite, dude.
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Well the temperatures part is kind of besides the point because one is very hot, the other very cold. The ice will be below 0°C, the magma will have to be 700°C to 1300°C at least, depending on the rock. It's all down to the amount, really. Also, putting ice onto the lava would just evaporate the ice and putting magma onto the ice would also just evaporate the ice. Again, unless you have so much ice that it can take being melted to the point that all the water produced cools the magma down.
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After seeing Akainu wrecking the Moby like that, I really dont see how the hell is anyone getting outta there after the war is over. I'm sure that Magma brat could sink all of the NW ships just as easily
I'm sure those ships must have alotta treasure & valuables on board which the government can cease, and the sink them.
It really is a shame, the Moby Dick was a fine ship and now its gone. Akainu is going to get his ass handed to him by WB…