I just remembered another hinted plot point that didn't really go anywhere, or didn't have enough time to develop: In Catch-22, Desmond sees a photo of one of the monks at his monastery with Eloise Hawking.
LOST: Season Six - Wano Edition
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I'm a bit irritated that the statue and ashes never got explained.
Alright, we know that the Black Rock destroyed the statue, but we never learned who built it! I guess we're just supposed to assume Egyptians were there at some time. I can draw my own conclusions, but seriously… there's hieroglyphics everywhere and a gigantic statue of Tawaret. They should have explained it.
Also, back in the first fucking episode of S6, Brahm used ashes to protect himself from the smoke monster. WHY!?!?! If you're going to bring up a mystery in the final season, then explain it! Same with the pylons.
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The ash is part of the smoke monster that It shedded out? and he can't… attack itself?
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I have to admit, some of these flashbacks in Season 2 are getting so frequent that it is getting annoying. Especially when the flashbacks are about the less interesting characters.
Sawyer just declared that 'there is a new sheriff in town' after he tricked Locke into hiding the guns and then went and found where Locke hid them.
Kate is one of my least favorite characters at the moment. A murderer, liar, gets caught by the 'Others' after being told to stay behind and then easily being manipulated by Sawyer.
Great show so far but unfortunately after today, I may not have much time to watch it this week.
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I have to admit, some of these flashbacks in Season 2 are getting so frequent that it is getting annoying. Especially when the flashbacks are about the less interesting characters.
Sawyer just declared that 'there is a new sheriff in town' after he tricked Locke into hiding the guns and then went and found where Locke hid them.
Kate is one of my least favorite characters at the moment. A murderer, liar, gets caught by the 'Others' after being told to stay behind and then easily being manipulated by Sawyer.
Great show so far but unfortunately after today, I may not have much time to watch it this week.
I got a little annoyed with the flashbacks during my first viewings of the episodes, too. Most of Kate's earlier flashbacks were alright, but they started to get really repetitive and tiring by season 3. The same goes for Jack. It's a shame, because I really liked him for the first half of the show.
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That's the lowest point of season 2. Watch on.
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I think there will be a movie.
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The finale was your movie.
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I'm a bit irritated that the statue and ashes never got explained.
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Guys…I dunno how many times we've said it now...
If you're curious about something, go to LOSTpedia and read about it. It's not hard. Sometimes you'll find exactly what you're looking for.
The statue was built by Egyptians who ended up on the island just like everyone else. Answered in the podcast.
And the ash being protective wasn't a mystery brought up in the final season, we first saw it protecting the cabin.
Furthermore we can gather that given the importance of ashes, they were human ashes of either Others or past island guardians (possibly even #2's). This infers that if they're still around, past island guardians may still lurk around the island if they have not been fully burned away.
Regarding the pylons, what scientific explanation could satisfy that high frequency sound repels pure human ambition? They just do.
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Yes, I know that they were made by Egyptians who came to the island. Thing is that you'd think that something so ominous and foreshadowed as being important would be explained. "DA EGYPTIANS DID IT" isn't really an explanation at all. They might have as well said "God did it."
The ashes were used by Brahm in the first episode of this season. If they were going to abandon the ashes, they definitely shouldn't have brought them up again in this season. That's just unnecessary cockteasing.
Unlike the light or Jacob's powers, the ashes is really something that you can't just "draw your own conclusions upon." There was absolutely no explanation for them besides "hey, if you make a circle out of ash, the smoke monster can't attack you; this makes sense because science."
Hoping these things are answered in the encyclopedia. I definitely wouldn't have wanted to see the answer to them post-Across the Sea, but it just sort of irks me that they chose to waste so much time in the final season only to leave out interesting stuff.
Also, I'm still in shock that this entire god damn season they kept showing the outriggers, yet they never touched up upon that scene back in season 5 where there was someone shooting at Locke, Sawyer, Juliet and co. while they were paddling away in an outrigger. They could have wrapped it up in a very short scene, but they chose to avoid it. Really a shame in retrospect.
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The thing that irritates me most about the statue is the arc word "What lies in the shadow of the statue", which sounds both ominous and important and is obviously referring to Jacob. Right?
Except he only moved to the statue cause his cabin got gatecrashed, so that made no sense at all.
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Thing is that you'd think that something so ominous and foreshadowed as being important would be explained. "DA EGYPTIANS DID IT" isn't really an explanation at all. They might have as well said "God did it."
I suppose this is what I don't get.
We've seen heiroglyphics and Esyptian themes and even gods for years now.
…what did you expect?
It was built by the Japanese?
I'm not trying to be a smartass, just, what about that explanation isn't satisfying? They were there and they experienced the crazy life on the island and built lots of shit in honor of what they believed to be gods.
The ashes were used by Brahm in the first episode of this season.
The ashes were brought up in season 3 in The Man Behind the Curtain.
Unlike the light or Jacob's powers, the ashes is really something that you can't just "draw your own conclusions upon." There was absolutely no explanation for them besides "hey, if you make a circle out of ash, the smoke monster can't attack you; this makes sense because science."
Even though we found out that Jacob's ashes were incredibly important? And that once Dogen was dead, MiB could attack the ash-encircled Temple?
Also, I'm still in shock that this entire god damn season they kept showing the outriggers, yet they never touched up upon that scene back in season 5 where there was someone shooting at Locke, Sawyer, Juliet and co. while they were paddling away in an outrigger. They could have wrapped it up in a very short scene, but they chose to avoid it. Really a shame in retrospect.
I think we discussed that a few pages back. It was something they wanted to include but it just didn't fit in well. I actually agree. If you look at it logically, the scene ocurred during season 6. The people shooting at them were probably Widmore's people. However, in the midst of everything going on, having Sawyer and team flash in and then flash out would seem almost amatuerish just to get an 'answer' out there. Up there with the 'whispers'. I think the narrative would have suffered from a 'HEY GuYz LUk @ ThAT!'
So given what we know, I'd personally like to think it actually happened off screen in Season 6. I mean, they certainly went back and forth enough so…
Except he only moved to the statue cause his cabin got gatecrashed, so that made no sense at all.
Actually, he used to live there long-term.
It's where Richard found him.
But when Horace built the cabin he seems to have moved there for some time.
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The ashes were brought up in season 3 in The Man Behind the Curtain.
Even though we found out that Jacob's ashes were incredibly important? And that once Dogen was dead, MiB could attack the ash-encircled Temple?
I'm aware that the ashes are from season 3. I'm just saying that it was unwise to bring something back up in the final season if they weren't even going to explain it.
I'm probably missing something you're trying to imply with the bold, so I won't even respond to that part.
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Personally I felt attributing the importance to Jacob's ashes and seeing what MiB was capable of despite the ashes after a leader figure died, answered that question even though they didn't have Jacob stare into the camera and say, "By the way folks, the ashes are the remains of Others or island guardians that are capable of deflecting MiB as long as a strong presence in the Others is still alive."
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Another thing I would like to forget about…
Flaming arrows, coming from nowhere, and killing everyone(leaving only the important people) in season 5 episode 1.
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[/carefully making sure not to read the spoilers]
Just about to wrap up Season 2. If Season 2 is considered the 'low point' of the series, then Lost very well may jump 'The Wire', 'Six Feet Under' and 'The West Wing' as my all time favorite show because Season 2 is dang good.
Kind of sucks that Michael has been compromised and has killed 2 innocent people at this point in the storyline, since he was one of the few people with an honest past.
I have a 3 hour interview at 10 CST so I have been watching Lost to calm my nerves.
Anywho, good show, I just hope Season 3 isn't as awful as I have heard or I may have to just read the wiki summary and skip to Season 4 .
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Yea season two was a low point, three has it's ups and downs but it's worth watching, and season far is the best imo. Great arc for the season, great new characters are introduced, it contains the best episode in the series imo (The Constant), and of course a very intense finale.
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Flaming arrows, coming from nowhere, and killing everyone(leaving only the important people) in season 5 episode 1.
That was awesome. Everyone I didn't care about and that would have only served as fodder, instantly killed off.
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Oh man that scene was pretty damn great. It was one of those moments where you felt like "wow, these guys [Cuse and Linedolf] are awesome".
I mean who can actually throw in flaming arrows in a tv show and get away with it? Only tv shows that are epic.
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They actually planned to introduce Neil, AKA Frogurt some time before season 5, and was only mentioned a few times prior. There was even an episode of that Missing Pieces podcast with him talking to Hurley about Libby. But, I guess they didn't have time to establish his character, aside from the fact that he was a complete jackass. That made him getting shot in the chest by a flaming arrow all the more satisfying.
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That was awesome. Everyone I didn't care about and that would have only served as fodder, instantly killed off.
Still no explanation is worse than even a stupid one ( eg. dead ppl on the island being the whispers …..... )
Something else that has been bothering me is Walt being super special and put aside in the later seasons.
Around season 3 I could understand their reasoning for his age.
But since they left the island in s4, the was NO reason for them to not re-introduce the character.. -
Still no explanation is worse than even a stupid one ( eg. dead ppl on the island being the whispers …..... )
What?? The Others shot them. Where do you think they came from??
LOST should never be shown to anyone that doesn't know how to use their brain.
And the 'explanation' for whispers was without a doubt, one of the show's lowest points. They ALREADY dealt with it earlier in the season when the Others were whispering within the ruins of the wall. That should have been all that was needed but no, they 'explain' it as ghosts.
Something else that has been bothering me is Walt being super special and put aside in the later seasons.
Wow…
How many times have we answered this since the finale.
Just wow...
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all the walt people should just wait for the god damn box set
ask questions about stuff that WASN'T explicitly stated would be on the boxset
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The worst thing which wasnt explained are the rules..they kept bullshiting about those rules 3 seasons now and nobody said wtf are those rules…
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I thought the whispers was a pretty good explaination.
The one question I do want answered, and maybe someone can help me here, did Jack ever make that put in the game of golf?
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I've seen that episode so many goddamn times due to classes.
My belief is that since Locke sunk the knife into the tree successfully, Jack did it.
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The Iceman is pleased then =)
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Close, but no cigar…
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THIS is possibly one of the show's most memorable endings, IMO.
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Either way, the music they're playing for both is awesome.
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Might be old, but this is a fun read:
http://www.sl-lost.com/2010/06/01/humanitas-insulae-the-culture-of-lost-by-pearson-moore/
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@Senshi:
THIS is possibly one of the show's most memorable endings, IMO.
Most of the memorable endings involve Locke in someway. Deus ex Machina ranks much higher for me but Exodus' ending left me with so much anticipation for Season 2.
Hmmm…
So I'm halfway through S2 right now and I just saw Fire + Water again. It's still terrible. I don't see why they think that's a good episode nor do I get why they ruined Charlie's character.
Speaking of bad episodes...
What's everyone's top 3 worst episodes?
For me it's:
1: Stranger in a Strange Land
2: Fire + Water
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IGN just did an article ranking every episode from worst to best.
Worst was:! "Stranger in a Strange Land"
Best was:
! The ConstantI agree with both, but there were some other episodes that I thought should have been ranked higher/lower.
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Egyptology majors collectively callooh'd and callay'd in joy as Ben descended down into the map room of Tanis to face the ultimate judgment from Smokem McKillsabitch.
that's probably the funniest name for smokey i've heard yet
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@The:
IGN just did an article ranking every episode from worst to best.
Worst was:! "Stranger in a Strange Land"
Best was:
! The ConstantI agree with both, but there were some other episodes that I thought should have been ranked higher/lower.
I went from completely agreeing with this list to hating it in one number.
Really, Tricia Tanaka is Dead as the second worst episode of LOST? I get the flashback wasn't that interesting, but to be fair aside from Dave Hurley's episodes were never very interesting, but that was part of his character. Hurley was a fantastic break from the drama and tension and someone we could relate to. Seeing him finally overcome his fears alongside Charlie stood out as one of the highlights of Season 3 and LOST on a whole for me. I can gather not liking it, but really, second to worst? That's ridiculous.
EDIT Okay seriously, do these guys just hate Hurley? Episode 105 - Dave?! Meanwhile What Kate Does, Recon, Eggtown, and I Do still haven't appeared?
EDIT 2 Okay, S.O.S. as 99. I'm taking this list as parody henceforth.
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Lost in 5 seconds (sort of)
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I am almost done with Season 3, I have about 2 episodes to watch. Episode 21 of Season 3 kind of got things back on track and returned the show to greatness, even though the show still has been fantastic.
I was warned that the wheels kind of fell off during Season 3, meaning the plot advancement came to a crawl. But besides a few episodes such as the "Car" episode and the Nikki/Paolo episode, I thought the pacing was pretty good.
The show has so many plot lines that I have created a Google Document which consists of a list of questions I want to find answers too.
Again, I feel like the writers force Kate on the audience. What is so annoying about her is that she always does the complete opposite of what she is told to do. Kate don't follow us when we go looking for Micheal, she does and gets caught. Kate don't come back for me (Jack), she does and it results in Locke blowing up the Submarine. Kate don't tell jack about the pilot that we found in the woods that says her ship is near by, not only does she tell Jack but she tells him right in front of Juliette.
Looks like Charlie is not going to make it past Season 3, I wish it was Kate.
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Kate's story in season 4&5 becomes a little more bearable thansks to a certain addition.
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Mick pretty much summed up everything wrong with Kate's character. I don't know what went through the writers' heads when they decided to take away her common sense. The whole love triangle between her, Jack, and Sawyer was at least tolerable for the first two seasons, but then it got annoying and repetitive afterwords. At least they resolved all of that by the end of the show.
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Season 4 is flat out brilliant and is turning out to be the best Season of the series so far.
I never thought any character would have as repetitive a phrase as "dude" when Hurley says it but Sayid is laying claim to that because every time he gets his hands on electronic equipment, he always says, "I think I can fix it but I don't know how long the battery will last" .
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Season 4 is flat out brilliant and is turning out to be the best Season of the series so far.
I never thought any character would have as repetitive a phrase as "dude" when Hurley says it but Sayid is laying claim to that because every time he gets his hands on electronic equipment, he always says, "I think I can fix it but I don't know how long the battery will last" .
Lmao… so true.
Both are badass thou :D
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Season 4 is flat out brilliant and is turning out to be the best Season of the series so far.
I never thought any character would have as repetitive a phrase as "dude" when Hurley says it but Sayid is laying claim to that because every time he gets his hands on electronic equipment, he always says, "I think I can fix it but I don't know how long the battery will last" .
I keep saying season 4 is the best. Wait for the finale, it's awesome beyond belief.
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@The:
IGN just did an article ranking every episode from worst to best.
Worst was:! "Stranger in a Strange Land"
Best was:
! The ConstantI agree with both, but there were some other episodes that I thought should have been ranked higher/lower.
i just watched the Constant last night and i agree a 100% it the best episode
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I don't get what was so great about 'The Constant'.
I really don't.
It was a GOOD episode.
It had a GOOD ending.
It was nowhere even near great.
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What?? The Others shot them. Where do you think they came from??
LOST should never be shown to anyone that doesn't know how to use their brain.
And the 'explanation' for whispers was without a doubt, one of the show's lowest points. They ALREADY dealt with it earlier in the season when the Others were whispering within the ruins of the wall. That should have been all that was needed but no, they 'explain' it as ghosts.
Wow…
How many times have we answered this since the finale.
Just wow...
Hi again, sorry for the late answer.
The flaming arrows was, at least in my case, a low point. Why? Because they just time-flashed out of nowhere and suddenly flaming arrows started falling from the sky. As for whom fired them, if they were the others, why would they fire flaming arrows to some people who appeared out of nowhere …(and if I remember correctly, they flashed around the time when the others had guns - about that, sorry if I am wrong but I haven't seen that episode in a long time) ? Regarding the fact that all the unimportant people were killed off in one go ... well that is great story telling ...
Also, I have heard about the Hurley-Ben scene on the S6 DVD (and the rumor (?) that Walt is going to appear ) but what I wanted was to see Walt in the show's time frame, again.
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Are you asking why they don't use guns? When we first met the Others they wanted to appear like a beaten and poor group of people. Perhaps arrows shows a more 'archaic' form of fighting.
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I don't get what was so great about 'The Constant'.
I really don't.
It was a GOOD episode.
It had a GOOD ending.
It was nowhere even near great.
Des is a true bro.
That's pretty much it.
Henry Ian Cusick (and Terry O' Quinn) are really the only two actors who've managed to never make an unsatisfying centric episode throughout their entire career on the show.
Plus, I'm a time travel junkie. That helps too.
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Are you asking why they don't use guns? When we first met the Others they wanted to appear like a beaten and poor group of people. Perhaps arrows shows a more 'archaic' form of fighting.
If I remember correctly, they had guns that night (on the fishing boat as well).
But that is not my main concern. My main concern is that the arrows appeared 5 seconds after the time-jump.
Edit: Also, about The Constant, given that the first 4 episodes of Season 4 were a bit disappointing, The Constant is a breath of fresh air.
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If I remember correctly, they had guns that night (on the fishing boat as well).
But that is not my main concern. My main concern is that the arrows appeared 5 seconds after the time-jump.
Edit: Also, about The Constant, given that the first 4 episodes of Season 4 were a bit disappointing, The Constant is a breath of fresh air.
The same goes for Ab Aeterno.Yes, the timeskip was in the afternoon, and the attack was at night, It hapens 5 seconds later!
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Yes, the timeskip was in the afternoon, and the attack was at night, It hapens 5 seconds later!
Sry about that, I checked the episode and I made a mistake. I did not remember correctly the scene …