I like all of Skypeia. We got see see a lot of good interaction between the characters and Chopper proved that he wasn't useless. I hope to see more of Chopper 1v1 fights in the future.
Least Favourite Arc
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Well, all the pirates "grew" / "revealed" something new in their arsenals in EL. Luffy revealed his gears, Zoro the spirit of Asura, Sanji his diablo kick, Nami her new climatact, Chopper his monster point, and Sogeking his Kabuto. It was also the arc to delve into Franky's style in a more detailed manner.
I think you're basing arc importance on power upgrades and stuff like how many new weapons the strawhats picked up.
I enjoyed the Skypiea arc because it had loads of character interaction between the strawhats we never usually get to see. Sanji, Usopp and Luffy traveling around together was great as well as The Zoro, Nami and Chopper stuff.
Also I enjoyed the "rpg dungeon" kinda feel from the priest's ordeals. The big problem with Skpiea was that MASSIVELY long and kinda unecessary flashback stuck right at the end of an arc that was already dragging on ridiculously long. Alabasta had the same pacing problems but it was stretched out on purpose and it ended with the best finale of the series so far.Alabasta was like the most popular arcin Japan, I think, because the ending was so well done that you forget how long it took to get there.
Also, I just love the Ener Vs. Luffy battle a lot! There were tons of clever tricks used to keep it interesting and there were moments of Luffy getting to just rape the hell out of an opponent which was pretty satisfying to see.
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Thriller Bark was rushed and featured too much Sanji/Zoro wank. Brooke's budding relationship with the crew seemed very forced. Second worst part of One Piece would be the end of Enies Lobby. It rapidly went downhill once Usopp was raped by Jyabura.
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Thriller Bark was rushed and featured too much Sanji/Zoro wank. Brooke's budding relationship with the crew seemed very forced. Second worst part of One Piece would be the end of Enies Lobby. It rapidly went downhill once Usopp was raped by Jyabura.
This. NO EXCEPTIONS.
Seriously, though, I just don't feel like Thriller Barc was such an important arc, it didn't seem so great to me honestly.
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Easily Sky Island. I couldn't stand that arc. No one in the crew even grew in that arc, with no one learning any new techniques or learning anything significant about life.
All that happened was that Robin learned that Gol D. Roger could write in the ancient language =/
Luffy's Rifle and Zoro's canon attacks
Also this thread is chock full of bad taste
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Least Favorite Arc?
Enies Lobby/Water 7. Just uh. Had a few up points to it (Luffy vs Usopp, Merry and Buster Call), other than that. No thanks.
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Also this thread is chock full of bad taste
Seconded.
If I had to pick anything I guess I would go for Baratie… mainly because Sanji and Mihawk are huge fags. Zeff and Krieg were good characters though. Same with Patty and Carne.
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Meh, I liked Skypiea mainly because it was sort of an escape from the storyline for a while. I thought the idea was interesting too. Overall, the pacing felt like it was all over the place at times though.
Of course, this was after all the chapters were already out, same with Alabasta and EL. Maybe if I had to wait for one every week, I wouldn't have liked them as much.
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Honeslty the worst arcs of OP are before the Grand Line and you fags are choosing SKYPIEA and THRILLER BARK?
What the fuck is wrong with you
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Honeslty the worst arcs of OP are before the Grand Line and you fags are choosing SKYPIEA and THRILLER BARK?
What the fuck is wrong with you
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Least favorite: Captain Morgan arc. Cpt Morgan has got no character, just the "I'm the big bad boss and I have a big axe" jig.
Arlong had the whole "I conned you stupid girl ROFLMAO" and Crocodile has the master plans.
Enel had the God complex and an aura of invincibility (until Luffy fought him). His lackeys sucked though (except Gedatsu, he's funny as hell).
Lucci was badass, and had a cool style. The Enies Lobby arc was full of martial arts, and martial arts look good (with a few exceptions according to taste).
Moria seemed to have a whole bunch of trump cards and traps, plus
an armyOz. Oz stole the show mostly though.Now arcs I don't like: Kuro's plot arc. His scheme was kind of lame, and kind of doesn't make sense. Jango was kind of awesome (Michael Jackson), but everything else was just so "small village".
Captain Morgan. I said he lacks character and the arc itself is really just Luffy picking up Zoro. Zoro was badass from the start though.
Buggy. I actually like Buggy. He's funny. His crew sucks though. But the doggy Chu-chu was adorable. Protecting his dead master's shop. Awww:wub:.
Alvida arc. Alvida was one big joke, and the only point of the arc was to show Coby's meager beginnings and Luffy's reckless adventurousness.
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I can see why people dont like skypeia. But i gotta say when the survival game started to the end of the arc it was pretty hard (to me).
I do admit the Survival Game dragged (no pun unfortunately) something fierce.
Now arcs I don't like: Kuro's plot arc. His scheme was kind of lame, and kind of doesn't make sense.
Kuro wanted to kill Kaya and steal her inheritance on top of using his pirate crew to ransack the village how does that not make sense?
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Kuro's ultimate goal is to be left alone and have a peaceful life. The whole robbing the whole village kind of contradicts the purpose.
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I don't really have a least favorite arc in One Piece. I like all of the arcs equally.
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Kuro's ultimate goal is to be left alone and have a peaceful life. The whole robbing the whole village kind of contradicts the purpose.
Not if he got bored of living a regular and ordinary life.
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I don't really have a least favorite arc in One Piece. I like all of the arcs equally.
i'll second that. As far as least favorite goes…. it really depends on whether we're talking about the manga or anime. For the manga I don't really have any arc problems... all great for me. For the anime.. i'd have to say most of the cp9 saga. it's around these arcs when the anime really started to hamper the pacing of the arcs. Entire episodes were dedicated to simple revelations (like the reasons for Robin's betrayal from Iceburg), simple events like finding luffy and zoro before the aqua laguna and so on. Sure the pacing in alabasta and skypiea could get bad at times.. but nowhere near this, things just took forever. Thriller bark lately has been pretty good (Zoro's fight took only 1 episode! OMG) and what not.
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Kuro's ultimate goal is to be left alone and have a peaceful life. The whole robbing the whole village kind of contradicts the purpose.
I'm terrified that you weren't able to follow something as simple as the Kuro arc.
Kuro wanted to have alot of money without being chased by Marines.
He fakes his death. Starts a long conman job on a rich family as a butler. Uses his old crew to kill the family after having them will their fortune to him, kills his old crew too, now his oast is completely dead, and he's rich as hell.What part of that was so complex that you couldn't get it.
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i'll second that. As far as least favorite goes…. it really depends on whether we're talking about the manga or anime. For the manga I don't really have any arc problems... all great for me. For the anime.. i'd have to say most of the cp9 saga. it's around these arcs when the anime really started to hamper the pacing of the arcs. Entire episodes were dedicated to simple revelations (like the reasons for Robin's betrayal from Iceburg), simple events like finding luffy and zoro before the aqua laguna and so on. Sure the pacing in alabasta and skypiea could get bad at times.. but nowhere near this, things just took forever. Thriller bark lately has been pretty good (Zoro's fight took only 1 episode! OMG) and what not.
I kinda liked EL and W7 in the anime, but yeah, the pacing got a little awkward at times. I thought they did a good job with the fights at least. And I haven't been that impressed with the TB arc in the anime tbh. I guess the pacing's alright though.
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@Deltron:
I'm terrified that you weren't able to follow something as simple as the Kuro arc.
Kuro wanted to have alot of money without being chased by Marines.
He fakes his death. Starts a long conman job on a rich family as a butler. Uses his old crew to kill the family after having them will their fortune to him, kills his old crew too, now his oast is completely dead, and he's rich as hell.What part of that was so complex that you couldn't get it.
Toast, maybe? Is this a reference to Whitebread?
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Kuro. Everything else is awesome to me.
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@Deltron:
I'm terrified that you weren't able to follow something as simple as the Kuro arc.
Kuro wanted to have alot of money without being chased by Marines.
He fakes his death. Starts a long conman job on a rich family as a butler. Uses his old crew to kill the family after having them will their fortune to him, kills his old crew too, now his oast is completely dead, and he's rich as hell.What part of that was so complex that you couldn't get it.
The problem is after he gets the money.
Now that he has all this money, how is he going to spend any of it for his living if everyone on the island is dead? He would have to get in contact with merchants traveling from island to island. That in turn means that the government will eventually come across this traffic.
Government officials will inspect his identity, and although he will be cleared as the butler Kurahadol from the village who survived the onslaught of pirates, the government will confiscate his remaining wealth and claim it as the government's money.
Now Kurahadol now has not much of his money, and has the urge to go robbing and pillaging, but has no crew to do it with. He would have to start all over. That is his hindsight.
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Dude, the plan was only to kill Kaya.
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first of not everybody on the island is dead, there is neighbouring town. Yknow the one where Merry went to buy his present. And secondly how could they claim the money as their own when they have it on contract that hes the rightful owner of the inheritance? The whole point of the plan is that they cant pin anything on him and that hes the legal owner of that estate.
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Oh wait, that's where Jango came in, I forgot. He was supposed to hypnotize Kaya into writing her will, so that Kurahadol will get the money. Still this arc is lame.
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Dude, the plan was only to kill Kaya.
no he had planned to kill his crew too
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-038/page003.html
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-038/page009.html
….yup
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Morgan, Kuro and Krieg were really lame.
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Krieg… that was just lame... luckily I didn't stop reading OP after this arc
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hmmm, Don Krieg's Arc is the most boring one. But Mihawk changes that.
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The problem is after he gets the money.
Now that he has all this money, how is he going to spend any of it for his living if everyone on the island is dead?
Not everyone on the island is dead, where did I say that or Kuro.
Usopp's village isn't even the only town on that island.He would have to get in contact with merchants traveling from island to island. That in turn means that the government will eventually come across this traffic.
Traffic? What are you talking about?
Government officials will inspect his identity, and although he will be cleared as the butler Kurahadol from the village who survived the onslaught of pirates, the government will confiscate his remaining wealth and claim it as the government's money.
The fuck are you talking about? Why would that happend?
Now Kurahadol now has not much of his money, and has the urge to go robbing and pillaging, but has no crew to do it with. He would have to start all over. That is his hindsight.
Think before you post.
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no he had planned to kill his crew too
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-038/page003.html
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-038/page009.html
….yup
I meant that the only villager he planned to kill was Kaya. There was no need for the other villagers to die. They knew nothing about his plans and he was going to kill he crew before they got up the slope.
Edit:I like the fact that you use mangashare
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really?
(16 words of possible sarcasim?)
Really. I like Mangashare a lot more than I do One Manga. The scans on Mangashare are usually guaranteed quality.
Look at this:
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-472/page007.html
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damn. good thing i've been reading one piece for a while on Mangashare. However it seems Onemanga has been a little faster with their releases lately. but you can't deny the quality of those scan comparisons
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@Deltron:
Think before you post.
Umm, practice what you preach. Before criticizing my analysis, construct your argument more thoroughly, instead of just picking out points and saying they suck.
Anyway, I have already agreed that Kuro planned out everything well. He just wasn't able to do it because he couldn't defeat Luffy, who was on that island at the right time. If Kuro chose to attack the village when Luffy's not there, he would have succeeded.
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And Usopp wouldn't be in the crew.
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And Yassop would be pissed off as hell. Yassop owes Luffy one.
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@Sandai:
And Usopp wouldn't be in the crew.
thats not a major loss….
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But then again that actually has some weight behind it.
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@MonkeyDMalcolm:
thats not a major loss….
Arlong arc anyone?
Or Maybe Arabasta?
Or maybe Little Garden?
Or maybe Enies Lobby?
Or maybe Thriller Bark?
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I'm terrified that you weren't able to follow something as simple as the Kuro arc.
ANyways, The Buggy arc is the arc where I actually started losing interest and not caring and the Krieg arc is where I just gave up completely. So those come to mind as being the worst of the pre-Arlong arcs.
If Kuro chose to attack the village when Luffy's not there, he would have succeeded.
what you're not getting is he doesnt want to attack the village,guy. He just needs the pirates to attack the village so it wouldnt seem suspicious that Kaya was killed in the chaos. People are gonna die when pirates attack a village so noone will think it was a murder plot on a specific person. If Kuro attacked the village when Luffy wasnt around it would achieve nothing. Actually itd achieve the opposite effect of what he wanted since he planned to continue living in that village in peace. He needed to the pirates to murder Kaya but make it look like it was just a larger part of a random pirate attack.
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i don't see what was wrong with the Kuro arc. sure i was one of the many who didn't care for Usopp off the bat (that outlook was changed dramatically as the series progressed), but the Arc didn't take that long to finish. Decent plot and a good amount of action. Plus the ending fights didn't take forever.
I really like the east blue saga as a whole, because the reader/viewer is introduced to the core of the straw hat pirates (pasts, motives.. dreams) and it's very interesting to see how they all interact, having just met. (seeing the beginnings of Sanji and Zoro's hate/respect rivalry on the Bartie was priceless). And most importantly seeing how the crew grows to be dedicated to their captain and each other.
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I didn't like the Kuro arc at all, while the plot seemed good, it just seemed to miss a special something that's usually in the other arcs… a certain Oda-ness. I also hated the Krieg/Baratie arc for the same reason (plus it was too rambling on without exciting things happening). Also I didn't like Little Garden that much either...
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I felt Enies Lobby was rather lacking far as the "main arcs" go. The robin moments were nice and all but I just felt rather letdown compared to the water 7 part. I thought the first part of skypiea was pretty subpar as well, with it really becoming awesome once the survival game started.
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Didn't really think much to the Kuro arc. I also think the Enes Lobby arc was too linear and simple, without any major twist which gives the plot any more depth (for example we had the rebellion in Alabasta and the Norland story in Skypiea). Enes Lobby gave us a great fight though. To be honest, I wasn't really into the assassination/ dark theme of Water 7 and Enes Lobby, and I defo wasn't into the soppy moments and the Nami fight. Sogeking was good though.
There aren't any weak arcs, but my least favorites would have to be Kuro arc, Water 7 arc or Enes Lobby arc.
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@$abZ:
Didn't really think much to the Kuro arc. I also think the Enes Lobby arc was too linear and simple, without any major twist which gives the plot any more depth (for example we had the rebellion in Alabasta and the Norland story in Skypiea).
Those weren't really major twists.
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@Sandai:
Those weren't really major twists.
Twist was the wrong word, even though the Norland plot did reveal that half of Jaya was up in the sky, which made that a pretty big twist, depending on how it's interpretted. More depth in terms of plot is the right way to explain it… I rush my posts.
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EL sucked major ass.
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EL and W7 own your soul. Those are best arcs hands down.
Reasons:
W7 had sort of a simple felling and was kind of relaxing for a while (a regular town with regular people in an awesomely designed place)
EL had the best fights in series and the story was great
Least favorite arcs:
1.Non I cant pick one i dont like soryyy
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@$abZ:
Didn't really think much to the Kuro arc. I also think the Enes Lobby arc was too linear and simple, without any major twist which gives the plot any more depth (for example we had the rebellion in Alabasta and the Norland story in Skypiea). Enes Lobby gave us a great fight though. To be honest, I wasn't really into the assassination/ dark theme of Water 7 and Enes Lobby, and I defo wasn't into the soppy moments and the Nami fight. Sogeking was good though.
There aren't any weak arcs, but my least favorites would have to be Kuro arc, Water 7 arc or Enes Lobby arc.
Erm doesn't Robin's past count as a twist? :/
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Not really seeing as tragedy seems to be a recurring theme in a character's backstory.