Data Book confirms Oro still alive inside Kabuto.
Yes it is false, By surpassing Kakashi and creating/completing a Jutsu that the 4th could not even complete, Now Naruto is showing up the J-man, All with out using the Kyuubi.
Denial is strong in you Luffy batter.
and Thats the only fight Naruto has gotten after he stop relying on the Kyuubi. Once again you prove that your not really saying anything.
What's sad that it was only 1 fight in 10 YEARS. Did I mention it sucked?
He was frozen in time by Itachi, so he's essentially dead.
Until we find out he actually froze a log.
Why is Naruto relying on the Kyuubi a bad thing?
Because it shows that he can't do shit without it.
Naruto's entire character theme is working hard to show that even he can be a Hokage, and all of that sounds really pointless when he has an inhereted advantage that was given to him at birth.
Then again, this entire series is about birth-given abilities that nobody works for, so the whole manga is just shitty.
Because it shows that he can't do shit without it.
Naruto's entire character theme is working hard to show that even he can be a Hokage, and all of that sounds really pointless when he has an inhereted advantage that was given to him at birth.
Then again, this entire series is about birth-given abilities that nobody works for, so the whole manga is just shitty.
This man earns power cookies.
Then again, this entire series is about birth-given abilities that nobody works for, so the whole manga is just shitty.
The entire series is about a young boy who wants to be hokage some day and make everyone recognize his strength, Kyuubi is/was the thing that made everyone in the village despise and hate him, it may have been something that helped him win some fights but that was Minato´s purpose when he sealed the beast within Naruto, because he knew of something, Naruto is carrying an heavy and dangerous burden, it isn’t just a free powerup, he had to suffer and is still suffering (akatsuki is after him and wants to kill him) because of his father’s decision.
In fact, we can say Naruto was always unlucky, his father was the hokage, a strong guy, had the kyuubi not attacked the village his father would most likely train him and make him an even better ninja than he is now, but he lost everything as soon as the manga begun.
Why is Naruto relying on the Kyuubi a bad thing?
its a double edged sword, It shortens Naruto's life.
What's sad that it was only 1 fight in 10 YEARS. Did I mention it sucked?
You went from not saying anything, to being a failed troll.
Then again, this entire series is about birth-given abilities that nobody works for, so the whole manga is just shitty.
That's what I was thinking.
It perplexes me that people stereotype Rock Lee's motivation (a now dropped subplot?) on everyone else in the manga. And when I say everyone else, I mean just Naruto.
I'd much enjoy just watching Naruto use the tool he was given (the Kyuubi) to accomplish something, rather than 'get stronger'. He's gotten stronger in every arc and it means absolutely nothing because he's accomplished NOTHING. Even if he was weak, if he'd save the village he'd have been one step closer to being Hokage, and would have changed the villager's view of him as a monster.
Naruto isn't as much a "grind" series as Bleach or Negima! but I am sick of watching the protagonist fail at everything he does. Even when he starts to do something interesting, like training, the end result is usually underwhelming.
Naruto's undergone three training regiments since Part II began and all three thus far haven't done much long term good for him.
This man earns power cookies.
But then your fatass ate them :wassat: Srsly, they mean nothing coming from you.
its a double edged sword, It shortens Naruto's life.
You went from not saying anything, to being a failed troll.
What? Stating the bare facts?:/
So you really don't find anything wrong with the fact that the main character who the series is named after only got that 1 fight when he stopped relying on the kyubbi when the fight was how many years ago?-_-
I hope everyone checked out Naruto Shippuden Episode 85?!
The episode was done really well, the action scenes are fluid
I need to watch that episode.
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i'm not saying naruto is weak without the kyubi, i'm just saying he's less interasting.
everytime he starts to use kyubbi, we get excited. in the battle against haku, neji, sasuke, orochimaru. he instills fear on the opponent and that is badass.
he's now learning sage techniques, we already got that from jiraya. that's the one thing that could make him a little badass.
imagine naruto without the kyubi. i really liked him in part 1. But in part 2 i expected him to show a bit maturity.
i mean the way he complains and cries is not doing any good for his character.
Not a bad episode. 86 or 87 should be it for Hidan, then the following episode Kakuzu should bite it. They'll probably start a new version of Shippuden OP 4 around 90 or so that includes Team Snake. That is, unless they have more filler between the defeat of Hidan and Kakuzu and Orochimaru's Death.
What? Stating the bare facts?:/
You didn't state any facts, hence the reason why I corrected you, and your respond being to change the subject.
So you really don't find anything wrong with the fact that the main character who the series is named after only got that 1 fight when he stopped relying on the kyubbi when the fight was how many years ago?-_-
That was not the topic we discussing. Never mind I already shut you up on that, you can proceed to try and redeem yourself.
Episode was epic.
You didn't state any facts, hence the reason why I corrected you, and your respond being to change the subject.
That was not the topic we discussing. Never mind I already shut you up on that, you can proceed to try and redeem yourself.Episode was epic.
He only had 1 major fight in ten years without using the kyubbi and it sucked.
Hmm, nothing seems false with that statement.
Hmm, nothing seems false with that statement.
Heres your lies.
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=995865&postcount=3689
Heres me handing out out the truth.
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=995867&postcount=3690
Heres you changing the subject.
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=995887&postcount=3692
Heres me letting you know your not saying anything.
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=995970&postcount=3697
Heres you still trying to redeem yourself for that bullsh8t you spouted, by changing the subject.
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=996141&postcount=3700
Heres me pointing it out again.
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=996361&postcount=3705
Which leads us to this post, me washing my hands of you.
So basically you're repeating your faulty logic without trying to change anything and acting like you actually know what you're talking about.
I'll actually be impressed by Naruto's skills when he actually wins a decent fight without using the kyuubi.
Without it he sucks.
So basically you're repeating your faulty logic without trying to change anything and acting like you actually know what you're talking about.
Example of one not knowing what he is talking about would be here.
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=9…postcount=3689
Oh thats you!?
Example of one who actual knows what he is talking about.
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=9…postcount=3690
Oh thats me! I got many more example if your two slow to figure it out.
Here's the fact
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=9…postcount=3689
Here's you not disproving it
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=9…postcount=3690
Are you done making yourself look like an idiot?
Luffy batter, just give up, you lost this once upon a time ago.
Luffy batter, just give up, you lost this once upon a time ago.
LOL, it's funny how you can't even put up a decent argument and yet you're acting like you won.
Oh please-_-
Either concede or actually counter my point.
LOL, it's funny how you can't even put up a decent argument and yet you're acting like you won.
Oh please-_-
Your only argument was "No it isn't and no he hasn't."
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=9…postcount=3689
Which was already debunked, by "Yes it is false, By surpassing Kakashi and creating/completing a Jutsu that the 4th could not even complete, Now Naruto is showing up the J-man, All with out using the Kyuubi.
Denial is strong in you Luffy batter."
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=9…postcount=3690
It funny how you would miss these things, when yourself even linked the posts. I'm finished with this no use in beating a dead horse with a wrecking ball.
Either concede or actually counter my point.
LMAO! I concede.
to both Luffy Batter and Jinbei can't you two just get along?
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Not a bad episode. 86 or 87 should be it for Hidan, then the following episode Kakuzu should bite it. They'll probably start a new version of Shippuden OP 4 around 90 or so that includes Team Snake. That is, unless they have more filler between the defeat of Hidan and Kakuzu and Orochimaru's Death.
I pray that we don't get anymore filler for the longest.
Shippuden is on a canon roll baby!
Episode 85's animation was decent for the most part, but I didn't like the close combat fight scenes between Kakashi and that multi-heart guy. I find that type of animation not really high quality, it's on the same level as the Sasuke vs Naruto one =/. Good episode none the less, hopefully they won't keep that style of animation, there needs to be more shadows on the characters instead of just one tone of shadow. I want Shikimaru to shut Hidan up lol, man is he annoying xD.
Episode 85's animation was decent for the most part, but I didn't like the close combat fight scenes between Kakashi and that multi-heart guy. I find that type of animation not really high quality, it's on the same level as the Sasuke vs Naruto one =/. Good episode none the less, hopefully they won't keep that style of animation, there needs to be more shadows on the characters instead of just one tone of shadow. I want Shikimaru to shut Hidan up lol, man is he annoying xD.
Not as annoying as Karin. I'd rather have had Hidan's head traveling with Sasuke, Juugo and Suigetsu that her loud, obnoxious self.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
As much as a lot of people want to move into the Uchiha arc after Hidan and Kakuzu bite it, there are rumors there will be a filler arc coming in January involving Naruto & Gaara vs. Deidara & Tobi with the 3-Tails Jinchuuriki kid from the recent spread. Personally having one more arc with Deidara prior to his Sasuke fight would give him a bit more closure before that fight…but I'm just wondering how the heck they're going to pull off some of this without spoiling later events.
! Basically since the 3-Tails/3-Tail Jinchuuriki is from Mist and Tobi = Mizukage, he should really know about the Jinchuu that he probably created and having him act like "Tobi" instead of "Madara" in familiar territory would just be confusing or bizarre…though maybe they could have a fake/new Mizukage in that arc to prevent the viewers from knowing the truth.
Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…
For the first 18 volumes.
That might actually make for decent filler, especially if it's approved (and therefore Canon) filler. The guy looked like a Schihiken no Kiri. Would be nice to know more of their members, considering Madara gave them all their swords.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
Somehow it would be cool if somehow the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist reappeared if we get a 3-Tails arc…but "Seven Swordsmen" and "filler" makes me think of Raiga...and the only good thing about that nonsense was Tenten's best fight in the series.
Why the hell does the anime have so much filler, anyways? It's not like they're in any real danger of catching up at this point…
この世に悪があるとすればそれは人の心だ。
Why the hell does the anime have so much filler, anyways? It's not like they're in any real danger of catching up at this point…
I think it's all a matter of pacing now: so the episodes don't seem stretched and aren't exactly "one chapter per episode" like OP does all the time (though they have an easy time making up filler content so it's not that much a problem), Pierrot likes having a good pace so they can make things move faster in continuity. Thus they put in fillers both for better pacing and also so they won't catch up with how little happens in a lot of Naruto chapters. (besides, the post-H&K period is probably the last time we can get a filler until after the Uchiha arc, since once Sasuke and Orochimaru appear, there will be little or no time for filler at all until after Madara finishes brainwashes Sasuke…maybe you could squeeze something in between Sasuke/Deidara and when Jiraiya goes to Rain Country but that's it in my head)
@Tokoro:
As much as a lot of people want to move into the Uchiha arc after Hidan and Kakuzu bite it, there are rumors there will be a filler arc coming in January involving Naruto & Gaara vs. Deidara & Tobi with the 3-Tails Jinchuuriki kid from the recent spread. Personally having one more arc with Deidara prior to his Sasuke fight would give him a bit more closure before that fight…but I'm just wondering how the heck they're going to pull off some of this without spoiling later events.
! Basically since the 3-Tails/3-Tail Jinchuuriki is from Mist and Tobi = Mizukage, he should really know about the Jinchuu that he probably created and having him act like "Tobi" instead of "Madara" in familiar territory would just be confusing or bizarre…though maybe they could have a fake/new Mizukage in that arc to prevent the viewers from knowing the truth.
Good to hear….
I feel as if Naruto's Kyuubi was a side show i mean part 1 was basically all Naruto and Sasuke,one fighting to beat one another with Sakura's dumbass doing nothing but talk and watch from the sidelines(until filler).
I dont see the kyuubi being a cheat code seeing as his fight with Gaara really showed his power for a brief attack until the end using Gamabunta…...
By the way why doesnt naruto ever use Gamabunta anyways if it were me id be like hahaha screw you Summoning Jutsu boom he dies lol
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I liked how the Kyuubi was used in the Gaara fight: it wasn't even the Kyuubi, it was mostly just Naruto using his basic level ninja skills to transform him and Gamabunta. That whole fight was basically a culmination of everything Naruto had up to that point (prior to the Rasengan and the advanced Kyuubi forms) and probably one of his best fights in the series.
@Tokoro:
As much as a lot of people want to move into the Uchiha arc after Hidan and Kakuzu bite it, there are rumors there will be a filler arc coming in January involving Naruto & Gaara vs. Deidara & Tobi with the 3-Tails Jinchuuriki kid from the recent spread. Personally having one more arc with Deidara prior to his Sasuke fight would give him a bit more closure before that fight…but I'm just wondering how the heck they're going to pull off some of this without spoiling later events.
! Basically since the 3-Tails/3-Tail Jinchuuriki is from Mist and Tobi = Mizukage, he should really know about the Jinchuu that he probably created and having him act like "Tobi" instead of "Madara" in familiar territory would just be confusing or bizarre…though maybe they could have a fake/new Mizukage in that arc to prevent the viewers from knowing the truth.
Good This is the stuff we need!!
Forget the manga
Good This is the stuff we need!!
Forget the manga
Trust me, the manga is much better. Ino and the Fat Elvis Impersonator? shudders
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Trust me, the manga is much better.
Trust you huh?:wassat:
Some filler really isn't that bad…the problem is you get stuck with crap like Tiger Mizuki and the Curry of Life, ruining it for everyone.
i don't know… personally, i think this last arc was the final nail in the shippuden anime's coffin. Going from the drawn-out-as-all-hell sasuke reunion to just plain filler was all kinds of bad.
i don't know… personally, i think this last arc was the final nail in the shippuden anime's coffin. Going from the drawn-out-as-all-hell sasuke reunion to just plain filler was all kinds of bad.
From what I heard, some of the filler wasn't bad…it's just that people had to put up with an attack more uber than Sasuke's, a hot woman who turns out to be living hair and, oh yeah, a normal kid turning into a Kyuubi clone, it was just Pierrot wasting potential...again...
Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…
For the first 18 volumes.
There's a spoiler and it's legit:
! Hell Pain vs. Konohamaru and Ebisu…yes, you heard me right. Oh and more Naruto training.
Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…
For the first 18 volumes.
Snoozefest
@Tokoro:
There's a spoiler and it's legit:
! Hell Pain vs. Konohamaru and Ebisu…yes, you heard me right. Oh and more Naruto training.
lol @ Ebisu… we haven't seen that guy since... what, when Jiraiya knocked him out way back when?
@Fire Fist:
lol @ Ebisu… we haven't seen that guy since... what, when Jiraiya knocked him out way back when?
Now he's bout to put in some work.
This week on Naruto: Kishimoto pulls a kubo and brings back to the battlefield characters that no one gives a shit about.
People actually do care about the characters that Kubo brought back, though.
If Kishimoto wanted to do that, he'd let Shino or Kiba or Neji or someone similar actually do shit.
この世に悪があるとすればそれは人の心だ。
He better not die. Not after Kakashi bit the dust.
He better not die. Not after Kakashi bit the dust.
Not like anyone would miss him. The guy's so useless that he hasn't even been in filler. Only thing I can remember him doing is being knocked out by Jiraiya like ten panels after he was introduced.
Speaking of filler, Team Kurenai (particularly Hinata) seems to get a buttload of filler. Well, Kiba and Hinata anyway. Guess the animation team has a thing for them. Wonder if they'll get some Shippuden action.
He better not die. Not after Kakashi bit the dust.
Bit the dust? Silly boy….He didn't bite anything. The only thing he bit..was..a ham sammich..
seriously tho. Kakashi's not dead...just like Zack form Final Fantasy 7 isn't dead :)
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