Not bitchy, I suppose. You're just getting very… spirited?
Because lord knows he may end up changing his mind in the future, and then all the shouting .. err, bold texting will have been pointless.
However I may have initially read your post as focused on the 4kids / funi comparison, which it turns out it wasn't. Oops.
It's getting hard to tell what anyone's talking about at the moment. We just gotta work on clarifying exactly what we're talking about. Heh, maybe even line by line.
And sorry if I sounded bitchy but I can't sleep again.
I've just grown to accept that not everyone is going to think the dub is perfect. As long as they aren't one of those, "What? No alternate angles? I'm not buying it!" people anyway. I do think Lobster should see the DVD first though
Hey, you weren't being mean Quexinos@tarrin4ever:
Because lord knows he may end up changing his mind in the future, and then all the shouting .. err, bold texting will have been pointless.
I hope that you are talking about DEMON Rin and not me.
For I was only using a very non aggressive helvetica font T_T
(all I'm talking about is Lobster's Assumption that 2 characters can't be played by the Same Actor, I don't care about 4kids Kuro at all, it's in the past, it doesn't matter)
No Lobster, which character it happens with doesn't matter.
The Fact is, we have 3 characters played By Kazuki Yao, and 2 played by Bin Shimada
Junko Noda played both Tashigi and Young Franky
Kenichi Ono played both Dalton and Gin
Masaya Takatsuka is, Doflamingo, Gedatsu, Jyabura, AND Johnny
Toshiyuki Morikawa is Hatchi and Enel
Yasuhiro Takato is Satori (and all the Things that sounded like him) and Wanze
Aruno Tahara is Ben Beckham and Mashira
Daisuke Gouri is Dorry and Rockstar
Hiroaki Hirata is Sanji and Carue
Keiichi Sonobe is, Igaram, Baskerville, Captain McKinley, AND the leader of the Gorosei
Tetsu Inada is Brogy, Jesus Burgess, Mr. 1, Patty, AND Purin Purin
It's NOT uncommon to reuse Voice Actors, Japan does it all the time, and Jango and Franky Sound EXACTLY the same!! They even have the Exact same Introductory song!
Plus Colleen Clickenbeard even played Myura =D…
you know Myura... the girl in Bellamy's crew?... well she did.
(all I'm talking about is Lobster's Assumption that 2 characters can't be played by the Same Actor, I don't care about 4kids Kuro at all, it's in the past, it doesn't matter)
I never said that, demon!!
I said those characters shouldn't. And I said it doesn't apply for every situation.. and that he should have at least altered it, etc..
Plus that it didn't fit his character anyway.
My point wasn't that the same VA's couldn't act moar then one role.
mmmmaaaaargghh
So you mean if they can't differentiate between roles, in your opinion they shouldn't do it at all?
No
My point is that it depends on the characters. Just like you wouldn't want Foxy's voice to be reused as Lucci's.
It Just Doesn't Fit
And if they do reuse it, it should atleast be altered.
@Lobster:
hope that you are talking about DEMON Rin and not me.
What about me?!
And, Kazuki Yao sounds E-X-A-C-T-L-Y the same as Franky and Jango (only Jango never says "Super")
honestly, you made a big deal out of this before, and now you're trying to downplay it.
but Whatever, I LOVE Kent Williams' Kuro, because I've actually seen the whole DVD set, instead of just watching one or two clips on the internet, so I actually have grounds to form an Oppinion >_>
and stop stating that "It Just Doesn't Fit" Like it's a Cold-stone Fact.
If I Love it, that means it's just your opinion, so stop trying to state it like it's ultimate Law the Kent Williams is a Horrible Kuro.
Oh so it's not about someone doing more than one voice it's about the voice not fitting. I gotcha.
So yeah, Demon it's not how many roles someone plays, he just doesn't like Kuro's voice.
@Lobster:
Hey, you weren't being mean QuexinosI hope that you are talking about DEMON Rin and not me.
For I was only using a very non aggressive helvetica font T_T
Bold texting in general should only be reserved for comedic effect. It's wasted on trying to sound serious, shouting, or to help highlight your points. That's what we invented "bold" and "italic" for.
And from an outsider POV, it looks like you're both just shouting at each other over (lets face it) nothing.
There is some instances that I agree with Lobster with. Giving Axe Hand Morgan and Crocodile the same voice in 4kids was a terrible idea. Worse was them making him portraying both in the exact same angry shouty way.
That's another example of voice actors playing the stereotype villain voice. Neither 4kids Morgan or Kuro's voices sounded like they were fit well with the character, with no personality of their own they could just as easily be transplanted onto any other villain the show brings out (ie. Crocodile).
Oh so it's not about someone doing more than one voice it's about the voice not fitting. I gotcha.
It's a compilation of both..
Not everything's black and white, ya' know.
So yeah, Demon it's not how many roles someone plays, he just doesn't like Kuro's voice.
Well basically.
If he's going to have a suckie voice, it should atleast be a custom suckie voice.
Not that I'm saying Kent Williams has a suckie voice or anything.. >_>
@Lobster:
It's a compilation of both..
Not everything's black and white, ya' know. Well basically.
If he's going to have a suckie voice, it should atleast be a custom suckie voice.
Not that I'm saying Kent Williams has a suckie voice or anything.. >_>
I'm just trying to figure out where everyone is coming from. And come on I was going to say, "It's not like he's saying THE VOICE SUCKS!".. and then you did =P
@Lobster:
Not that I'm saying Kent Williams has a suckie voice or anything.. >_>
Uum… yeah, you pretty much were...
"It Just doesn't fit" sounded like you were saying that.
I'm done arguing because I realize this was just you not stating what you meant right at all.
I just want you to stop acting like Kuro's Voice is some kind of abomination and accept the fact that we have differing opinions.
you know, suddenly I'm reminded of the whole "OMFG, Usopp's Voice SUCKS Because it sounds just like Krilen!! OMFG, SONNY STRAIT SUCKS!!" tirades people used to go on >_>
This thread is making me imagine what would happen if 4kids switched the voices around. I wouldn't put it past 4kids if at one point they were going to give Crocodile Kuro's voice. They've done worse.
@Lobster:
But I do respect your opinion (bows)
It's definitely not beyond him to accept different opinions. ^_^
Hehe, I remember that whole DBZ Piece thing people were worried about. The big lesson remains: lets wait and see.
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It's definitely not beyond him to accept different opinions. ^_^
The Problem is, he's not Respecting our Opinions >_>
He's outright stating Kuro's Voice sucks, like He has final word on the subject.
Hehe, I remember that whole DBZ Piece thing people were worried about. The big lesson remains: lets wait and see.
"I'M THE PRINCE OF THE SWORDSMEN!!"
@Lobster:
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What The Hell does that mean?!
What The Hell does that mean?!
Don't play innocent.. You know exactly what it means -_-
You've been trying to get me to outright bash Funimation from the very beginning.
Although well throughout, I can now say that you've failed your highness.
Just because I think that one layer of the cake is bad, doesn't mean that I disrespect the entire thing.
It's a little bit that I like to call Honor.
Nah, you're taking his statements a bit personally. If he thinks (which he's saying he doesn't) a voice sucks that you happen to like, then it's just different opinions. No disrespecting, he hasn't said we're stupid because we think this way, he just has different tastes.
What The Hell does that mean?!
It means we should all just relax. We're all here to enjoy ourselves (his proverbial olive branch?).
….
DECKZONE, YOU'RE NOT HELPING!!! 
WHAT!?
What're you talking about?
Zoro: Sounds alot better than the Broadcast version.
Jango: It's alright, not as distinct as I wished for.
Kuro: Sounds exactly like Shura(Though he's not a major villian as Lobster keeps saying, he's a minor underling) Again not as distinct and memorable as I wished for.
Siam and Butchi: works for em.
Koby: Sounds good, just like all Koby's.
Helmeppo: Good.
It takes a lot to impress you, doesn't it?>.>
Nice voices. I'm not going to argue whether they're perfect for the roles, but I can tell the acting's improved greatly from the 4Kids version. (any surprise….?)
Reason arguing with Lobster is pointless: It's coming from the same guy who was diehard in believing Luffy says "Gatling Gun".
And don't know if they clips actually show this, but the huge differences between Kuro and Shura is Kuro actually changes his tone on emotion. >.>; Shura always talked like he had a few too many cigs, Kuro only talks like that when he's serious or angry.
-Zera
Kent Williams makes for a great bas**** Kuro, he just oozes 'creep'.
i second that Yuugi.
a big "EW~!" at the 4kids kuro. sounds like he's trying WAYYYYYYYYYYYY too hard. also, sounds like he has a crayon up his nose.
I love Kent William's Kuro already period. Can't wait to see more of it. Kenny Green's Jango is great from that one clip so far.
Buuhan, I'd really botch up an explanation so I took a few quick pics – hopefully it'll clear things up!
That's so freakin' awesome. I didn't know this thing was gonna be an actual box. I thought we were going to get a regular DVD case with two discs in them. I can't wait to get this.
That's so freakin' awesome. I didn't know this thing was gonna be an actual box. I thought we were going to get a regular DVD case with two discs in them. I can't wait to get this.
Yes, it does look really cool. I'd prefer it if FUNi just used the japanese DVD-art, but this looks just as good, so no complaints here. (Even though I complain all the time at other forums, heck, I even changed my title on AnimeSuki to "Complaining is fun")
Anyway, I just ordered the DVD, though being that I ordered it from a scandinavian site and not RightStuf, I doubt I'll recieve it before it's officially out. Now excuse me, I've gotta go and be impatient.
This sucks! My copy is now on backorder:sad:. I hope they get more soon.
Strongbad, you're not alone. My copy is also backorder. But don't worry man, when they get their next shipment of OP dvds, we're be the first to get them. ^_^
Jesus christ, you guys're so ANGRY all the time.
The Super Nyaban Bros. SUPAH SHOW both sound fuckin' badass, no more Team Rocket Butch for Siam thank god. Jango's acting is much better, for sure, but Kenny Green's voice he used for the character's a little unsuiting. I haven't heard Kent William's voice come out of Kuro's mouth yet, but from what I gather he suits the character fine. Dare I say, Kenny Green would've made a decent Kuro with his lower voice as per the Japanese version, and Kent Williams could've used an Elder Supreme Kai-esque voice of some kind for Jango. Ah well.
Yes, I know all three of Kent William's characters sound exactly the same. We'll get over it. I'm not sure if you guys've heard of him, but I was seriously holding out for Christopher Ayres as Kuro. His voice is like the best of both worlds in terms of Kuro. Sounds very similiar to Gary Mack's take in the 4Kids dub (which I liked as well), but lower in tone like Japanese Kuro, with some amazing acting skills. Ah well.
Definitely wanna hear Carrie Savage as Kaya, too.
I thought Williams' Spandam sounded like more like his George from YYH?
^ Yeah, same here. Its got like a different range from Shura, and Kuro to me.
Plus Colleen Clickenbeard even played Myura =D…
you know Myura... the girl in Bellamy's crew?... well she did.
Thank you.
I was trying to figure out who that was.
Holy shit. My order says it's shipped already.
Anyway, the boxset looks nice - didn't expect two separate cases either.
It takes a lot to impress you, doesn't it?>.>
Not really. I just can tell when someone can do better. For example Jango's voice doesn't really fit Jango, but it does have great acting. Though 4kids did have horrible acting, it they did make the character's voices memorable. Kuro's voice, I prefer 4kids' voice over FUNimations. I can remember it for better reasons than FUNimation's voice. I only remember it due to the voice being every including Shura. I remember 4kids' voice due to it sounding like how I felt Kuro should sound like.
Now, we can either have two or three pages about how I'm wrong about liking the voice, or you can accept my opinion.
From what I have heard of Zoro, he sounds a lot more how I picture the character's voice in the recent clips makes me happy. I am impressed on how his voice gets muffled when speaking through the sword, (atleast from what I have heard people say he does.).
Strongbad, you're not alone. My copy is also backorder. But don't worry man, when they get their next shipment of OP dvds, we're be the first to get them. ^_^
I'm just afaid that the ones they had before were just some early copies they managed to get and that they won't get anymore til the 27th when they really come out. Well even if it's that, I'll still get my copy without having to look for it in a store.
Well, outside of Kent Williams being one of my favorite FUNi pool actors I must say that it's all about acting for me and he perfectly played Kuro in the scene where he reveals himself to Merry, you can just feel how much of a bas**** he is and it really makes things not matter in that respect.
After looking at my order, it says it was processed yesterday at a near by UPS thing-ma-whazzits.
Whatever that means.
I was going to do something today, but secondary party cancelled for later, so I can relax to see if my DVDs show up today.
And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.
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@dirt:
After looking at my order, it says it was processed yesterday at a near by UPS thing-ma-whazzits.
Whatever that means.
I was going to do something today, but secondary party cancelled for later, so I can relax to see if my DVDs show up today.
I believe UPS doesn't deliver on Sat & Sun. I could be wrong. But I remember it always being like that.
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Uploaded "We Are" with the Japanese, creditless footage. High quality version can be seen from the page itself.
Also compared the "Hammer Gun" scene with the new FUNi scene.
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Damn. Well, I can still hope. And if it's a no show today, that just means I need to get home before my apartment office closes on Monday.
Maybe next time, I'll have it shipped to work. Getting home before the office closes is a hassle.
EDIT: Whoops, that's the USPS that has it. So I think I still have a chance of getting it today. Fucking acronyms.
You know aside from the hammer gun, 4Kids didn't do that bad of a job with that scene. 4Kids really didn't start getting too bad until later on I think when everything became puns and they started skipping episodes and merging them.
Nice to know the DVD is backordered, I guess it sold well.
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Just you wait and see,
And when you look back on where we've been together
Wherever you may be
I hope that you remember me_
You know aside from the hammer gun, 4Kids didn't do that bad of a job with that scene. 4Kids really didn't start getting too bad until later on I think when everything became puns and they started skipping episodes and merging them.
There were a few quirks, such as the gun appearing for a split second during the close up on Coby right before it switched to the "hammer gun." But yeah, their edits didn't really get out of hand until when the crew arrived at the Grand Line.
Luffy could somehow punch Morgan several times in the face, yet not Crocodile?
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