You still got it wrong, though.
Bleach Discussion Part 2
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point taken
Arc could have been better. But whatever, it's Bleach.
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Been looking at the Bleach RPG (The 3rd Phantom). Some of it seems to go over events of the manga, and part of it looks like flashback/filler with some new shinigami and a Vizard(I think). I don't remember what the symbols for the Gotei 13 are, so what squad is the red head at the front page in charge of?
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What is an "ancarr" again? whats the difference from vasto lord?
I thought vasto lords or whatever was the strongest super hollows.
(bleach is starting to remind me of guyver for some reason… only crappier)
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Vast Lords are the strongest hollows. Arrancar are the hollows that gained shinigami powers/removed their masks. Aizen made all the strong ones though it can happen naturally too. I believe most of the Espada are/were Arrancar made from Adjuchas which are the hollows one level below Vast Lords and Aizen's surely gonna replace them to get more Vast Lords. If they survive this arc, that is.
edit: spelling
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Erm, Espada are Arrancar. It´s just the name for the top ten of them. Remember when Grimjow got kicked out, he wasn´t an Espada anymore but he was still practically the same. As far as Vast Lords are concerned, this is the strongest breed of Menos (the super hollows). The other two kinds are Adjuchas, (second strongest) and Gillians (weakest. They are the large kind we saw very early in the series).
But I seem to have forgotten how many of the Espada were Vast Lords. Was it two?
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I don't think it was mentioned. Iirc we only know the former hollow levels of Grimmjow and AA.
I think that at some point, someone said something along the lines of "we have two Vast Lords among our ranks". But memory might fail me. But it´s definitely not the line "among us there´s one Espada" in reference to Grimmjow during the invasion arc. That much I´m sure of.
You make it sound as if i didn't say that already.
To be honest, it appeared a bit vague as you said it so I thought I´d add a bit to it in case I´m not the only one who saw it that way.
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Well i hope it's only one or two and not all of the top four. From what hitsugaya said about vast lords being above captain level they should already be stronger than Espada 5-10 even without shinigamification so the power jump would be too big.
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To be honest, it appeared a bit vague as you said it so I thought I´d add a bit to it in case I´m not the only one who saw it that way.
@me:
I believe most of the Espada are/were Arrancar made from Adjuchas
Hmmm, this actually could be misleading in one way or two so i'll let it pass this time :)
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It's pretty obvious, at least, that Uliquorra was a former Vasto Lorde. Hell, he's even got the helmet for it. Other than that, Stark, Halibel, or Master Tao could have potentially been Vasto Lordes.
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I don't think number four is going to be Vasto Lordes with the three above him not being as such. Seeing as Vasto Lordes are supposed to be absolutely ridiculous.
But, again, even if the whole top four is Vasto Lordes, surely guys like Yamamoto, Shunsui, or Isshin are capable of taking them on right? Because I assume they're somewhat stronger than the "captain level" that Hitsugaya was talking about.
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I'm sorry I've disappointed you Greg-senpai
Hm? I was complimenting you…unless you didn't make it on your own. In which case you lose.
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Oh. I thought you'd seen it before and were being facetious.
But yeah, TOTALLY MADE IT UP MAHSELF
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I can't imagine anything happening other then Ulquiorra breaking out of his alternate dimension thingy now. I mean, it has to have been close to two hours.
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Well look on the bright side
if Ulquiorra wakes up, then we only have one fight left probably.
I can't even imagine what the next arc is..
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Well look on the bright side
if Ulquiorra wakes up, then we only have one fight left probably.
I can't even imagine what the next arc is..
Probably, as a few people have said, a training arc of some kind. Ichigo barely beat no. 6 so there needs to be some kind of massive powerup for him to compete with 1-4.
I can't help but feel that Kubo's got some kind of big thing planned for the end of this arc where Aizen finally pops up. I'd be surprised if we didn't see him again, since his Espada are dieing right on his doorstep.
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Well, if Ichigo beat Kenpatchi with no bankai or hollow powers when he had his eye patch off and Kenpatchi beats Nnoitra, then that makes Ichigo far stronger than Nnoi.
For the next arc, it's probably some training or mental/emotion wrap-up before the Winter War, but I think there's still more to this arc, since we've got the old man not doing anything yet (they've all at least popped up once this arc) and Ulquiorra stuck in his prison, not to mention Mayuri's "discovery" at Szayel's lab.
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@Mr.:
I don't think number four is going to be Vasto Lordes with the three above him not being as such. Seeing as Vasto Lordes are supposed to be absolutely ridiculous.
But, again, even if the whole top four is Vasto Lordes, surely guys like Yamamoto, Shunsui, or Isshin are capable of taking them on right? Because I assume they're somewhat stronger than the "captain level" that Hitsugaya was talking about.
Yeah, I was under the impression that for the average captain, fighting a Vasto Lordes is out of the question, but for Shunsui and Co., it would be a tough-but-winnable fight.
Uliquorra has the whole Vasto Lordes helmet thing going on; I doubt it's a coincidence. And it's a given that Master Tao is a Vasto Lorde. Old Men in Bleach (or Shonen in General) usually = super-powered badasses. As for Stark and Halibel, it's up in the air. Stark seems too lazy to be someone who worked his way up the ladder, and Halibel barely speaks, so we know nothing about her.
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@Impel:
Well, if Ichigo beat Kenpatchi with no bankai or hollow powers when he had his eye patch off and Kenpatchi beats Nnoitra, then that makes Ichigo far stronger than Nnoi.
Ichigo is much weaker than Kenpachi right now. Kenpachi simply broke the #1 rule and improved faster than the main character.
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Ichigo is much weaker than Kenpachi right now. Kenpachi simply broke the #1 rule and improved faster than the main character.
Didn't Vegeta and Goku fuse when that happened in DBZ? Are we to expect Kenpachigo now?
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Ichigo is much weaker than Kenpachi right now. Kenpachi simply broke the #1 rule and improved faster than the main character.
You guys have to understand the number 1 rule of Bleach
there are no power levels. shit changes all the time.
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@Fire Fist:
Didn't Vegeta and Goku fuse when that happened in DBZ? Are we to expect Kenpachigo now?
His name's Ichachi.
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You guys have to understand the number 1 rule of Bleach
there are no power levels. shit changes all the time.That's right and also the reason why i read Bleach. Kubo has that unconventional approach that sets him apart.
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His name's Ichachi.
That's dangerously close to forbidden territory, yo, since it's close to the name of one of the worst characters of all time.
Besides, Kenpachi is currently stronger, so his name should go first.
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@Fire Fist:
That's dangerously close to forbidden territory, yo, since it's close to the name of one of the worst characters of all time.
Besides, Kenpachi is currently stronger, so his name should go first.
When Ichigo kills Ulquiorra in the next fight, come back to me.
I'm 99% sure Ichigo will beat the 4th espada by the end of the arc, and there will be no explanation for it.
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In other news: the dub restarts with new episodes tonight. And after all the Kenpachi/Nnoitora trashtalk, I'll finally be able to see the fight that really put him on the "cool but slightly overrated" map. (Tousen/Komamura)
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@Tokoro:
In other news: the dub restarts with new episodes tonight. And after all the Kenpachi/Nnoitora trashtalk, I'll finally be able to see the fight that really put him on the "cool but slightly overrated" map. (Tousen/Komamura)
Finally… I've been waiting forever for this fight...
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As to the earlier conversation about the espada
wasn't #9 a Gilian?
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Hai guyz.
According to the footnotes in my version of Macbeth, "vizards" was a Shakespearean/Elizabethan word meaning "masks".
You might've been over this already, but still just felt like… throwing that out there.
And I'll always <3 Nnoitra. He shall be missed. D:
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To Skarlath, yeah Aeroniero was originally a Gillian.
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He was a Gillain, but Aizen experimented on him so he became hella strong and therefore was at Espada level.
Still, if he was that bad in the fight, I can't wait to see how badly Yammy will lose.
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I don't really think that Aeroniero was weak, it's just he underestimated Rukia, which technically he should have, since she's a weak bitch, but she just got a lucky shot in the end.
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He was basically around vice-captain level, but was only so good because he knew everything Rukia could do. His release was also pretty bad, since it basically, up, made him taller, since he just stood on the top of it and stabbed Rukia…so that was pretty useless.
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You shouldn't let anyone with a sword wave about in front of your face, wether the blade's broken or not. Especially if your head is made of fucking glass.
Also Yammi must have been the stupidest Adjuchas ever to be ranked lower than a former Gillian.
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Super-powered Gillian, but it's not that he's stupid, he's just really weak.
And stupid.
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Especially if your head is made of fucking glass.
It sort of bothered me that Kubo acted like a head made of glass would somehow be so much more fragile than a normal head.
GLASS IS WEAK, FLESH IS STRONG.
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If they're all arrancar, than the Iron Skin they have would be a lot better than glass, especially since the heads weren't protected themselves, since they were just fucking mask parts.
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I don't really see how Rukia busting out DANCE 3 impaled on a fucking trident is Aaroniero's fault.
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Well, they're all weird combat spirits and know magic and shit and he's like "I'm save as long as i stay just out of her reach." He looked like a goddamn sword-swallower with that thing dangling in front of his face.
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Frail girl
Impaled with trident
Broken sword
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Well, VIZ mega-fails!
Bleach got a naruto style ED for the new "Season".
I loved that one. ;_;
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Frail girl
Impaled with trident
Broken sword
Sounds like a recipe for disaster
Arroniero's so fucking retarded
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I know
What the fuck was he doing gloating?
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Clearly he didn't think that Rukia would guess his one weakness
Being stabbed in the face
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@The:
Well, VIZ mega-fails!
Bleach got a naruto style ED for the new "Season".
I loved that one. ;_;
The hell? Sure that wasn't AS's doing? I mean, they had the correct ending in the last episode before the break… IT HAD BETTER BE INTACT ON THE DVDS OR I'M GONNA KILL...Aisia. (Note: Just a random anime-character who I seriously wish would die a slow and horrible painful death.)
And on the topic of DVDs: Why is Viz releasing them so damn slowly? 24 episodes a year just isn't good enough, in my opinion.
And on the topic of the manga: Well, I guess Nnoitora is dead. Hopefully this "New threat" will be way too much for the gang to handle, and they'll just take Orihime and get the hell back to Earth already.
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It's no one
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If the new threat isn't Ulquiorra, I want to know why all this crap hasn't taken 2 hours yet.
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@Fire Fist:
That's dangerously close to forbidden territory, yo, since it's close to the name of one of the worst characters of all time.
Besides, Kenpachi is currently stronger, so his name should go first.
what? who? when? where?
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@Vegard:
The hell? Sure that wasn't AS's doing? I mean, they had the correct ending in the last episode before the break… IT HAD BETTER BE INTACT ON THE DVDS OR I'M GONNA KILL...Aisia. (Note: Just a random anime-character who I seriously wish would die a slow and horrible painful death.)
It's crappy quality, but it's the best I could find to show what I meant:
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I practically spit out my milk when I saw that last night xD
Viz sure loves their random slide shows, don't they…