I don't mind gender bending or not having a clear distinction. Years of watching anime I rarely get phased by it any more. I was surprised to hear that the "brother" in the kimono was a boy though. But it makes me think of Bridget from Guilty Gear. Dressing as a girl can really throw off the enemy. Kurapika I still wasn't sure of for a while, but so many just started calling him a guy that I just went with it. And then you have Biscuit…lol. That was definitely a shock. This manga has a fair amount of gender confusion possibilities but I don't think they've ever really been a gag. Just a that's how it is and nobody really comments about it. I think part of that is that the characters in question are really strong a a bit murderous...
Hunter x Hunter
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And then you have Biscuit…lol. That was definitely a shock.
I always thought Biscuit was a homage to Washuu, personally, only with a gag "Adult form" instead of an impossibly attractive one.
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I could see it that way too. But she's crazy masculine looking and I had been reminded of when she oogled Hisoka and thought how funny that scene woulda appeared in her actual form. But I do like Biscuits "adult" form. She still didn't look 57, but I'm glad she wasn't another powerful kid lol.
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I could see it that way too. But she's crazy masculine looking and I had been reminded of when she oogled Hisoka and thought how funny that scene woulda appeared in her actual form. But I do like Biscuits "adult" form. She still didn't look 57, but I'm glad she wasn't another powerful kid lol.
TRUE FACTS.
It really was a bit of a twist: in Yu Yu Hakusho we had Genkai, who was this short old woman whose alternate form was this super-powered (yet still short) babe.
Here we have this short little girl whose real form is this huge, burly older woman. I got a real kick out of that.
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Wonderful chapter! I knew that Togashi was tired of ant's saga and you can feel it by reading previous chapters.
But now he came back to Yorkshin and Greed Island level, I'm so excited!
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This question was brought up a few pages ago when somebody asked him how he could've recognized his Grandfather's Dragon Drive if he didn't know what nen was until recently.
Likely, his family members were capable of doing things that he didn't fully understand until going out into the world and learning nen himself. Having context now, he probably has a better understanding of just what it is Alluka does - and it's Nen Erasing.
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This question was brought up a few pages ago when somebody asked him how he could've recognized his Grandfather's Dragon Drive if he didn't know what nen was until recently.
Likely, his family members were capable of doing things that he didn't fully understand until going out into the world and learning nen himself. Having context now, he probably has a better understanding of just what it is Alluka does - and it's Nen Erasing.
Yea, must be as you say…
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Wonderful chapter! I knew that Togashi was tired of ant's saga and you can feel it by reading previous chapters.
But now he came back to Yorkshin and Greed Island level, I'm so excited!
Anyone noticed that when Killua speak about his brother/sister, he mention his nen ability but seems he knew everything since long time ago, before he started his nen training?The ant saga was surprisingly sad. But I wonder if he added in the poison thing because he wanted a way out. And the King was getting far too over powered.
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I'm not liking the amount of nen erasers, we had the black guy inside GI, that ant searching for Gyro and now we have Killua's brother? <_<
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I'm not liking the amount of nen erasers, we had the black guy inside GI, that ant searching for Gyro and now we have Killua's brother? <_<
3 known erasers in a series of hundreds of characters?
One whom the Ryodan had to really go out of their way to find,
One for all the Chimera Ants, its own race,
And one with some apparently extreme conditions and issues for an elite assassin family.
I dunno, I see what you're saying but I think it could be worse.
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I just wanted to come in and thank Kewl for that translation of what the fuck was going on in that election.
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This election is confusing as hell, but trust kewl to save the day and make sense of it all, that's why we wuuuv yooou.
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I suppose I'm the only one not confused in the slightest by this election?
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I'm not. But I usually take a really long time to read most Hunter x Hunter chapters.
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Yeah, the election makes perfect sense to me, and Cheadle even explained what Pariston's trying to do in this chapter. By temporarily revoking certain Hunter's licenses if they don't vote or have invalid ones, that lowers the number of votes required for majority vote since it lowers the number of hunters (and thus, candidates) in general. Already having an overwhelming number of votes over any other candidate (Cheadle, in second, isn't even close), if the number of hunters becomes less, Pariston's percentage becomes more until he hits majority vote, and wins.
Pariston is at 37.9%. 12.8% of Hunters didn't vote properly. If they revoke all 78 of those hunter's licenses, the number of hunters goes to 583. 251/583 = 43%. While that's still not majority vote, that still would carry a 95% turnout, which would advance the election to round 2, with the top 8 candidates. with 43% of the vote, there's no way that Pariston would lose in round 2 of the voting. As Cheadle pointed out, this is Pariston's goal: getting to round 2 of the voting. That's all Pariston needs to win. And even though he says that they won't lose their right to vote, without their licenses they won't be considered hunters, and therefore their votes will be technically ineligible. Plus, they won't be candidates any longer, so those votes would have to go to someone else, probably Pariston.
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Same here, but chapters like this is where I take 15 minutes for myself, translate the words I'm not 100% sure about and just read the chapters released some weeks ago again, just to refresh my memory. If there is a german translation around somewhere, I'll also read that one just to make sure that I got everything right. HxH is not something to be rushed, especially not that we have a york shin type of story telling again where paying attention is crucial.
For me, these kind of things are hard to talk about, since I really have no clue how this election could play out. Too many wildcards, unknown powers and odd circumstances, not even going to bother to think of a likely scenario for the coming week. Pariston really is completely unpredictable.
I was more focused on the Alluka part this chapter. Also, thanks to someone here who mentioned that Kalluto wasn't searching Alluka, but more something along the lines of "getting ready to meet his brother" which just makes way more sense considering recent developments.
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That's true, Fire Fist, but Pariston said he ISN'T making it so they can't vote or the number of valid Hunters will change. They agreed that would be unfair.
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I didn't get the rules the first time, I tought that they would cut to 16 candidates even if they didn't get 95% voters.
The votes to kaito are valid? He's electable being a ratman now?
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I understood everything just fine.
Pariston thinks he's slick, and Cheadle catches him before he can get away with murder.
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It's apparently not like, reported or known that Kaito is dead… I guess.
And like I said on this post:
http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=159&p=2421820&viewfull=1#post2421820
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It's apparently not like, reported or known that Kaito is dead… I guess.
And like I said on this post:
http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=159&p=2421820&viewfull=1#post2421820
They would only limit the number of candidates once the 95% voter turnout succeeds.I assumed he wasn't dead. But I guess reporting that a notable hunter was reborn as an ant baby would probably raise some eyebrows lol. At least that's what I thought when I read that scene lol.
I'm still not quite understanding the voting, but politics in real life confuses me too.:sad:
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I want to see the ant Kaito all grown up , maybe his nen ability will be the same but overall his physical abilites should be improved right?
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I want to see the ant Kaito all grown up , maybe his nen ability will be the same but overall his physical abilites should be improved right?
It could go either way. Palm is by no means a physical fighter, but her physical abilities AND her nen abilities were both enhanced by becoming an Ant. Of course, it may be different for her since she was a special case and was experimented on rather than eaten, but the end result may still be the same.
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I assumed he wasn't dead. But I guess reporting that a notable hunter was reborn as an ant baby would probably raise some eyebrows lol. At least that's what I thought when I read that scene lol.
I'm still not quite understanding the voting, but politics in real life confuses me too.:sad:
There's two main condition.
1. 95% of all hunters need to vote.
2. Candidate needs to get 51% of votes to win.Simplifying math to make it easier to undestand.
There's 100 hunters.
95 of them need to vote to cover the first condition of 95% of all hunters voting.
Right now only 75 of them are voting properly, so even the first condition isn't being met51 of them need to vote for a single candidate for them to win.
37 people are voting for a single candidate, others are voting for random other characters.The badguy is trying to make the improper votes stop counting, and get his 37 votes to count as 51.
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^^^^^THANK YOU SIR
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The Mangareader's version suggest that only someone at the level of a Nen-eraser can remove Gon's oath without killing Gon, and that there are few Nen-erasers.
The Mangastream's translation suggests that there are many nen removers/erasers but only extremely exceptional ones like Alluka can remove Gon's oath without being killed.
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@RobbyBevard:
There's two main condition.
1. 95% of all hunters need to vote.
2. Candidate needs to get 51% of votes to win.Simplifying math to make it easier to undestand.
There's 100 hunters.
95 of them need to vote to cover the first condition of 95% of all hunters voting.
Right now only 75 of them are voting properly, so even the first condition isn't being met51 of them need to vote for a single candidate for them to win.
37 people are voting for a single candidate, others are voting for random other characters.The badguy is trying to make the improper votes stop counting, and get his 37 votes to count as 51.
Ahhh I see. Thanks muchly. lol
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I think the second translation is right. The sentence is phrased oddly. I think that "if it's the level of a normal nen eraser, he'll be killed." I may have read it too fast originally. Regardless, Killua still needs Alluka.
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Partison is awesome btw.. I like him for than Ging.
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Who's Partison and Partinson
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thanks for the explanation kewl. but there are still a few confusing things about the chapter:
1. "ginta, kurukku and piyon… already appear to be manipulating the votes to their advantage." what does this mean?
2. "spreading the candidates' message should be first before adding rules..." huh? what candidates' message?
3. you said that he's trying to rig the voting so that he'll get a larger percentage of the voting pool. yet he agreed that those who had their licenses revoked can still vote, which does not accomplish his goal of lessening the total voting pool. so what is he trying to do?i'm so confuuuseeed =/
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thanks for the explanation kewl. but there are still a few confusing things about the chapter:
1. "ginta, kurukku and piyon… already appear to be manipulating the votes to their advantage." what does this mean?
2. "spreading the candidates' message should be first before adding rules..." huh? what candidates' message?
3. you said that he's trying to rig the voting so that he'll get a larger percentage of the voting pool. yet he agreed that those who had their licenses revoked can still vote, which does not accomplish his goal of lessening the total voting pool. so what is he trying to do?i'm so confuuuseeed =/
1. They're going to try to find methods to either increase their own share of the vote or give them to another with a better chance of being elected for the sake of taking away Pariston's lead. That could mean convincing the folks that voted for them to vote for Cheadle, for example - like a politician convincing his supporters to instead throw in with a stronger candidate. Or it could mean they're trying to use those connections to increase their own lead. They're lobbying, essentially.
The risk of this being drawn out is that some of the Zodiac won't be content to just sit idly by if they see other candidates making advances they don't like. Violence and coercion of voters to manipulate the vote is possible.
2. Pariston is trying to increase his share of the vote, by taking away the Hunter's license of non-voters. He tries to justify this by arguing that a Hunter refusing to vote is a denial of Netero's will. In reality, he doesn't give a shit about Netero's will - he was just trying to make changes that would've resulted in his vote share increasing - he was trying to hurriedly get people who didn't vote disqualified, but Cheadle checked him before he could.
The others told him if his aim was trying to show voters that not voting is against Netero's wishes, then all he had to do was say that in a speech to spread his message. It didn't need to become a rule.
Again, he doesn't care about Netero's wishes - if convincing people to vote was his plan, he could just say "not voting is against Netero's wishes!" in a speech. He just wants to punish non-voters and hurry the election along before the others can catch up. He's dangerously clever. Nobody is trusting Pariston to not try and include cheap rules that only benefit him.
3. However, some of them seem to agree that they don't want people just abstaining to vote, so it seems that taking away licenses is a good method to convince them to. Achieving the 95% is important because it eliminates enough candidates that voters are forced to vote for the remaining candidates – and people that didn't vote for Pariston in the first place aren't likely to change their vote to one for him. But it's a double-edged sword, as people abstaining from voting could be doing it, as was suggested, as a form of intentional defiance. The election will go on forever if those people keep refusing to vote though.
A Hunter who has his license confiscated is the shame of the Hunter community. You can only have one - you can never get a second. And owning it is what gives Hunters all their special privileges (the ability to get into restricted areas, discounts on public services, etc). Taking their licenses but not taking their voting ability is a method of coercion to ensure that everyone has a really strong incentive to vote.
The Zodiac want people to vote. Pariston does not.
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I… I just can't wait until Pariston becomes Chairman. And Netero's reasoning to make him his vice only adds up to it. He's going to turn this world upside down, I feel it. Although, I do hope, he can make other faces rather than benevolent smile one.
And certainly, it's unexpected to see Alluka brought up in such manner. How wrong and twisted must be his conditions for Silva to keep him locked up, for Illumi and Kalluto wanting him dead and Killua wishing ti help him? Nen Eraser or not, that won't be what he is all about.
The votes to kaito are valid? He's electable being a ratman now?
Rat loli girl. Get your facts straight, man.
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I… I just can't wait until Pariston becomes Chairman. And Netero's reasoning to make him his vice only adds up to it. He's going to turn this world upside down, I feel it. Although, I do hope, he can make other faces rather than benevolent smile one.
And certainly, it's unexpected to see Alluka brought up in such manner. How wrong and twisted must be his conditions for Silva to keep him locked up, for Illumi and Kalluto wanting him dead and Killua wishing ti help him? Nen Eraser or not, that won't be what he is all about.
Rat loli girl. Get your facts straight, man.
The kalluto part is wrong. If anything the information we have points to that he wants to get him back/rescue him. But even that part isn't to clear if it was referring to killua or alluka
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Are you talking about this mistranslation?
I looked it up. Kalluto says on page 87 of volume 22 "I need to become stronger so I can take back my big brother." Doesn't say anything about "finding". Also it doesn't say which big brother. Kalluto is the youngest of the 5 siblings.
Getting someone back can get quite lethal in the realm of shonen fiction.
I was just too lazy to type out his deal. Point is, every Zoldyck family member who adressed this issue has his own opinion on Alluka.
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Milluki
Killua
Alluka
Kalluto.
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Illumi
Milluki
Killua
Alluka
Kalluto.
It all makes perfect sense.
In that case, shouldn't Silva be Silluva?Zeno (granddad) and Maha (great-great-granddad) don't follow the naming convention, don't see why Silva (the dad) should.
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Although, in Japanese, father and all his 5 sons share the ル ~ ru ~ llu syllable in their names.
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Zeno (granddad) and Maha (great-great-granddad) don't follow the naming convention, don't see why Silva (the dad) should.
The romaji for his name is Shiruba, and Silluva is a possible translation, I guess. It would be neat if he named his children's names based on his own. Just a trivial convention. I don't mind either way.
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@THE:
The romaji for his name is Shiruba, and Silluva is a possible translation, I guess. It would be neat if he named his children's names based on his own. Just a trivial convention.
Fair enough. He really likes that ilu, huh?
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Although, in Japanese, father and all his 5 sons share the ル ~ ru ~ llu syllable in their names.
Kalluto doesn't.
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For some reason I thought the first l was an upper case I. I thought you wrote "Ilu" which everyone else does have in common.
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For some reason I thought the first l was an upper case I. I thought you wrote "Ilu" which everyone else does have in common.
ah kk yeah that's an easy to make mistake, if someone isn't familiar with the syllable phonetic structure of the japanese language. ^^
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If we were to get a better look at the Zoldycks, then I'd like to see a bit more of Maha. Guys' almost as old as Netero and still goes on high level assasination missions.
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you said that he's trying to rig the voting so that he'll get a larger percentage of the voting pool. yet he agreed that those who had their licenses revoked can still vote, which does not accomplish his goal of lessening the total voting pool. so what is he trying to do?
The rules of the election state "Any Hunter can vote." and "Any Hunter can be voted for.". Pariston suggests taking away the licence of anyone who fails to properly vote, and everyone is against it because then those Hunters wouldn't be able to vote, but then he says they would still be able to vote, so everyone is fine with it.
The thing I instantly thought was, doesn't that mean they are technically no longer Hunters, just normal people being allowed to vote, thus can't be voted for? So for example, someone (I'm guessing Ging) keeps voting for Gon, so Gon gets one vote, but Gon isn't able to vote, so with this rule in place starting from round 4 Gon can no longer be voted for, and that one vote for him has to go somewhere else. Unless I'm mistaken on something, which I might be. I was surprised none of the characters thought of it though, I'm guessing Ging would have if he was there.
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A Hunter whose license has been confiscated is still a Hunter. They just can't prove via identification they're a Hunter to people outside the organization anymore. For example, Kaito was holding onto Ging's license for a while until Gon brought it to the Hunter organization during the Acceptance Trial, but Ging probably didn't need to use it in all the time he didn't have it.
They probably wouldn't allow such an easily abused rule.
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A Hunter whose license has been confiscated is still a Hunter. They just can't prove via identification they're a Hunter to people outside the organization anymore. For example, Kaito was holding onto Ging's license for a while until Gon brought it to the Hunter organization during the Acceptance Trial, but Ging probably didn't need to use it in all the time he didn't have it.
They probably wouldn't allow such an easily abused rule.
One thing I don't get is, does he intend to permanently confiscate these, thus making these individuals actually getting work more difficult/impossible ?
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First page of the chapter, first panel of the first page, second speech bubble of the first panel, second word of the second panel.
See word "temporarily".