If they didn't learn after Shadow,Sonic, & The Secret Rings I don't see how they're going to use that to make a Sonic game that doesn't suck ass like
the last ones mentioned.
General Sonic the Hedgehog Thread (Now With Movie 3 & Knuckles)
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@Sandai:
If they didn't learn after Shadow,Sonic, & The Secret Rings I don't see how they're going to use that to make a Sonic game that doesn't suck ass like
the last ones mentioned.
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Yeah we've got another lame Chaos/Iblis/Bio-Lizard monster…
I wonder when it will be officially announced? And I wonder if they decided to add the "Time changes while in the stage" thing. They were going to do it in Sonic the Hedgehog but they scrapped it.
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I wish they add Bean and Bark to this D:
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And Fang…
sigh
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It's not a Sonic game without Ray the Squirrel.
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I heard word that the game might be a 2D side scroller or such, I still am not that interested in it sadly :/
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@Freeman-12:
I heard word that the game might be a 2D side scroller or such, I still am not that interested in it sadly :/
2.5D, and if there isn't speed, semi-linearity, good controls and little storyline other than "Sonic=good, Robotnik=bad," I fear for this game.
Hey, wait a minute, there's the problem! Sonic as a franchise has pretty much suffered ever since they tried to add an actual plot to the games. I for one liked Adventure 1 and 2, but not much has really come close to the Genesis stuff so far.
Yeah, okay, that's not the problem. There's more to it than that, but I have to wonder why they need a storyline after seeing the first few games and how superior they were without one other than the "death egg" and Chaos Emeralds stuff happening in the background.
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http://kotaku.com/371098/leaked-sonic-unleashed-footage
footage of "gameplay" has been released.
To be quite honest… I think I wet myself from watching this video.
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There's more to it than that, but I have to wonder why they need a storyline after seeing the first few games and how superior they were without one other than the "death egg" and Chaos Emeralds stuff happening in the background.
Probably because they (Sega,Sonic Team, The Fans) got tired of having
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Sonic running through 2-3 versions of stages that ocassionally looked identical and Running into Robotnik on the last one with some lame ass or ass pain machine.
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Characters not interacting and having zero personality.
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Levels where Sonic drowns if he's submerged too long.
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Emerald Hunting being optional.
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Sonic repeatedly destroying or damaging the Death Egg.
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O_o This sonic game actually looks like ….fun!
I hope it can somehow get close to sonic 3, but i seriously doubt it.
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@Sandai:
Probably because they (Sega,Sonic Team, The Fans) got tired of having
- Sonic running through 2-3 versions of stages that ocassionally looked identical and Running into Robotnik on the last one with some lame ass or ass pain machine.
How platformers should be.
- Characters not interacting and having zero personality.
They still have no personality.
- Levels where Sonic drowns if he's submerged too long.
This still happens.
- Emerald Hunting being optional.
PLEASE FORCE ME TO COLLECT THINGS?
- Sonic repeatedly destroying or damaging the Death Egg.
This was only ever done twice.
no jared
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looks interesting
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@Earthworm:
How platformers should be
Does that include this?
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@Earthworm:
This still happens.
Wouldn't know for sure the last Sonic game I played was Adventure
and large bodies of water from what I remember were instant death
to Sonic@Earthworm:
PLEASE FORCE ME TO COLLECT THINGS?
Why not just ask to go back to the Sonic 1 & Sonic 2 way of collecting Emeralds hell throw in 3 that way no one gets left out.
@Earthworm:
This was only ever done twice.
Actually 3, Sonic 2>Sonic3>Sonic & Knuckles
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@Sandai:
Does that include this?
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I said platformers. Not shitty educational games under the guise of platformers.
Also:
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Wouldn't know for sure the last Sonic game I played was Adventure
and large bodies of water from what I remember were instant death
to SonicTrue, but the also had those "countdown pools", music and everything.
Why not just ask to go back to the Sonic 1 & Sonic 2 way of collecting Emeralds hell throw in 3 that way no one gets left out.
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Actually 3, Sonic 2>Sonic3>Sonic & Knuckles
My mistake, but still. Three times is barely any.
no jared
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I wish they add Bean and Bark to this D:
And Fang…
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It's not a Sonic game without Ray the Squirrel.
Don't forget Mighty.
The gameplay video looks promising. Storyline wise… Uh... Why not develop Darkspine Sonic more? Isn't that meant to be his dark super form? Why add another when you already have one that pretty much does the same thing?
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@Earthworm:
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In other words make collecting the emeralds optional & challenging
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they shoould special stages like they were in Sonic 2 and 3d Blast…NOT SONIC 3 or 1...
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The gameplay video virtually looks like its playing itself . I am interested in the story for this game but I think supersonic is going to turn evil and sonic has to split supersonic from himself.
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So just like the British comics.
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Not liking the plotline so far.
I AM liking the cutscenes and the gameplay.
But seriously, if they include any characters past Sonic Adventure 2 as a major part of the plot, I'm gonna be pissed. Evil wolf hedgehog? Didn't Twilight Princess already do that?
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Evil wolf hedgehog? Didn't Twilight Princess already do that?
The furfags are having a seizure right about now. I can feel it.
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@Sandai:
Does that include this?
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Wouldn't know for sure the last Sonic game I played was Adventure
and large bodies of water from what I remember were instant death
to Sonic[hide]
[/hide]And the only large bodies of water Sonic instantly dies in are the bottomless ones. there are others.
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Water is always instant death unless you can run on it. Because Sonic can't swim.
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I watched a video of this earlier today, it looks pretty damned good; a lot more like Adventure and the originals than the more recent console iterations. Hopefully it doesn't dissapoint.
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Water is always instant death unless you can run on it. Because Sonic can't swim.
Chemical plant.
If there's a bottom, you can escape.
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If you can reach the top or make it out i.e. Hydrocity Zone.
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Toni, no offense, but you must be the most plain user on the forum. Your posts, your avatar, everything. You're like the Ishamaru of Arlong Park.
That totally came out of nowhere.
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How do we even know it was water?
It wasn't but…
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drumroll
HYDROCITY WAS!
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OK. There was that. But he still can't swim.
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OK. There was that. But he still can't swim.
Never said he could.
On topic, this looks good so far, except for the painful apparent Zelda ripoff, so I'll maintain trace amounts of hope that Sonic Team has had enough experience doing everything wrong so far that they'll somehow get it right this time. Maybe returning to sidescrolling will at least buy them some time to work on figuring out the fundamental problems with their 3D stuff, if not provide a good way to revive a dying series.
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If this game really goes 2.5D scrolling, then there's a chance that the game could be good.
After all the only recent sonic games worth playing have been the Sonic Advance and Sonic Rush games; all 2D sidescrollers that are closer to the original games.
The leaked footage, real or not, looks pretty fun.
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From the screeshots it looks like it switches from side scrolling to normal 3D game play.
And how could any of this possibly be fake? Unless Sega is planning some prank in time for April to make us think they are making a good game…
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How do we even know it was water?
It ain't hence Chemical Plant Zone.
Maybe returning to sidescrolling will at least buy them some time to work on figuring out the fundamental problems with their 3D stuff, if not provide a good way to revive a dying series.
I don't think they're as bad at taking 2-D to 3D like Konami with Castlevania and
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"Sonic unleashed will be on the cover of the next PLAY magazine, it will also feature in Nintendo's magazine (NOM) and will be in the August issue. The screens I have uploaded are from the Xbox 360 version of the game, however, the game is going to be a multiformat release."
This confirms both a 360 and a Wii version, at least.
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I hope it doesn't end up like the other multiplatforms… Also Toshiya what did you think of the Secret Rings game on the Wii?
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Were-hog? XD SEGA never cieses to surprise me.
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I SWEAR I SAW CRASH BANDICOOT!
Yet his games began to get worse long ago also…
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@Chaos:
Yay i knew it was about time for another sonic game.
I hope Sonic team has learned from there mistakes
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AHAHAHA! That's a good one!
Water is always instant death unless you can run on it. Because Sonic can't swim.
Know what the sad thing is? Sega completely forgot about this and gave Sonic the ability to swim in the Mario & Sonic olympics game. It's understandable if Nintendo has Sonic swim in Brawl since they might not know, but god damn, Sega forgot their own mascot can't swim.
Regarding this game, I'll just c/p what I posted in my journal regarding this whole mess.
_Sonic the Hedgehog turns into a werewolf in the upcoming "Sonic Unleashed."
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Let's repeat that again. Sonic the Hedgehog turns into a werewolf.
Are you fucking kidding me? Upon further reading, it seems like Sonic's not even on Earth now and is facing ANOTHER NEW CHARACTER. A "Dragon Lord" to be exact. And it seems like the Japanese, US and European divisions are all working on the game to "reinvent the franchise."
STOP FUCKING "REINVENTING" SONIC.
SONIC DOES NOT NEED TO BE REINVENTED. ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS GET THE GENESIS GAMES AND MAKE 3D GAMES LIKE THOSE. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? God dammit. And here I thought Sonic x human princess was a horrid idea. Hell, this might be almost as bad of a concept as Shadow's game.
This is why Sonic is a fucking joke. Out of all of the video game characters of the old days, it seems like Mario is the only gaming franchise that's stayed relatively the same over the years. Maybe Zelda too. Mega Man? Can't even fucking recognize him nor do I know who the hell those robots he fights these days are. Donkey Kong? Reduced to spinoff games such as King of Swing, Konga (which isn't bad) and Barrel Blast. Where's the platforming? Pac-Man? Why the hell is he platforming and kart racing? Final Fantasy? Became more of a series targeted towards fangirls who love their "bishie" looking guys and a fucking generic futuristic sci-fi mess. Phantasy Star? Went well with Online. But Universe fucked things up by trying to be more like an MMORPG rather than an online RPG or even just a regular RPG.
Srsly though, Sega must be trying to get me to RAAAAAAAAAAGE. >:|_
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Know what the sad thing is? Sega completely forgot about this and gave Sonic the ability to swim in the Mario & Sonic olympics game. It's understandable if Nintendo has Sonic swim in Brawl since they might not know, but god damn, Sega forgot their own mascot can't swim.
Actually Sega had Sonic wear water wings for the swimming events because they knew he couldn't swim. But in any case, I agree with your post. Sega can't seem to ever do things completely right. It may just be the nostalgia making me think this way, but a 3D version of 2D games complete with the cartoony backgrounds would be the most fun thing for Sonic. Not necessarily a remake of the Genesis games, but a game where all the levels are similar in style to the Green Hill Zone remake in Sonic Adventure 2. Plot should be one of the last concerns when making a Sonic game. Just have Eggman being a douche by turning animals into robots to make some huge Egg type machine and that is good enough for me. And having him as the final boss again for ONCE would be a relief.
This werewolf thing, and the game coming out this year (rushed again?) are the only two things I am worried about, but we'll see.
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That's another thing, what is the constant need to release a Sonic game EVERY YEAR and with only a year's worth of development time?
This was understandable for 2D games since a year was enough time to produce a game for the Genesis. But 3D games? Are you kidding me?
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Are you fucking kidding me? Upon further reading, it seems like Sonic's not even on Earth now and is facing ANOTHER NEW CHARACTER. A "Dragon Lord" to be exact. And it seems like the Japanese, US and European divisions are all working on the game to "reinvent the franchise."
Well said and I completely agree. Mario does it right - has the core four/five with side characters for games that need a bigger roster. SOMETIMES a new character is added but not as frequently as Sonic does. I am sick to bloody death of seeing Sega making a new (often annoying) character every bloody game, only to then scrap them next time. Heaven offend someone may, I dunno, want to see Chaotix return instead of a Pyrokinetic kitty, Telekinetic hedgehog and a pointless rabbit who's meant to make the game easy (since when was Sonic hard?) being added to the roster. Or hell, why not REVIVE some of your older characters Sega! I'd rather see Mighty come back than Shadow.
That's another thing, what is the constant need to release a Sonic game EVERY YEAR and with only a year's worth of development time?
Again I agree. I mean wasn't 06 meant to be half finished or something (never played it)?
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Telekinetic hedgehog and a pointless rabbit who's meant to make the game easy (since when was Sonic hard?)
Sonic,Sonic 2,Sonic 3,Sonic & Knuckles
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That's another thing, what is the constant need to release a Sonic game EVERY YEAR and with only a year's worth of development time?
This was understandable for 2D games since a year was enough time to produce a game for the Genesis. But 3D games? Are you kidding me?
Sega wants to make profit , hence why Sonics development time is so so rapid because sega wants Profit faster and them seeing Sonics general appeal to young consumers and even teen s alike ( Its a common business ) yeah Mario takes too long to make a actual Canon game , because Nintendo are perfectionist they want to make a quality game and put it to the market so they take their time to develop games . Sega does not realize this and just wants to make profit but seeing as multiple game teams are involved then I think the gaming quality can be higher this time around without having to take their time to fix the bugs.
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@Sandai:
Sonic,Sonic 2,Sonic 3,Sonic & Knuckles
I can't say I found them overly hard as a child. Besides, I don't see what's wrong with a challenge.
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They were pretty hard, if you ask me. Sonic 3 w/ Knuckles had a fucking beastly hard difficulty, even though it's the best in the series.
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No it wasnt, Sonic 2 was the best then Sonic CD, THEN Sonic 3 w/ Knuckles…to me anyway
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The only game I had for Sega CD was Sewer Shark
(I don't know why I was given this for christmas).I can't say I found them overly hard as a child. Besides, I don't see what's wrong with a challenge.
Challenge my ass
Going from Emerald Hill Zone to Death Egg Zone only to die
against Metal Sonic or Robotnik using up all your continues and being forced to continue from the beginning in the process was annoying
(I didn't know the code at the time).Playing through Hydrocity Zones 1 & 2 and that badly broken section in
Carnival Night Zone were ridiculous (though the game had a save feature).Sonic & Knuckles not really difficult unless your playing as Sonic and are trying to get the good ending which brings us to the next point.
Collecting all seven emeralds
I swear if it wasn't for Sonic Mega Collection not having saving functionality
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Sonic 2 is just my favorite, and the first game i ever played. I even got it for virtual console on Wii. It has all my favorite levels and best music
Hell yeah, I hate hydrocity. You need someone to be tails while your falling at the begging so you can fly to edge and start from the top and not underwater.
And Sonic and Knuckles had the hardest levels, that fucking 3rd green garden level. With Robotnik in the air boss, that was the hardest junk ever. And playing with Knuckles is even harder…not to mention the way you had to get the emeralds in the special zone getting the balls blue (lmfao). And it only got harder and harder. I like the game though. Its not impossible with save feature.
Sonic CD was gold though, not to mention the best sonic intro ever
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Sonic the Hedgehog 2 blows compared to Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
S3&K had several more epic songs than StH2 (StH2 had nothing on Hydro City Zone Act 1, Ice Cap Zone Act 1, Hidden Battery Zone Act 1, or even Doomsday Zone). S3&K had a more epic final battle. S3&K gave you a reason to actually collect the Chaos and Super Emeralds and didn't make Super Sonic seem like a novelty reward.
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