robin states that it exceeds even luffys,so do you think it passes doflamingo?
Morias bounty higher than doflamingos?
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isnt doflamingos bount only a few million belli more than luffy's right now?
in that case then morias might exceed his.
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this is a spoiler….hoply not closed
donflamingos bounty is 340.000.000berry
ruffy bounty is 300.000.000berryso moria could be between the two bountys or higher than don
s.... i think itS about 400mille or even a little bit under 400....but i hope it will be about 320mille cause so don stays at the highest bounty (
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this could have been in the chapter discussion thread to me.
nonetheless, as Don just said, it could be lower or higher than DoFlamingo's. we just know it exceeds Luffy's. i personally hope it's higher than DoFlamingo's and that Luffy either ties or defeats him in this arc. -
For so little difference in bounty compared to Don's 340 that Luffy has (40 mil)… I doubt Luffy would get a raise anyway. Reason why I see it this way is if Luffy hits several Shichibukai, then the WG will think Luffy is preposaly trying to upset the balance of things.
Also, Thriller Bark is in the middle of a place people disappear in... If Luffy beats Moria, it might be another Kuro. That is Luffy wins but no one knows about it.
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i think there gonna have to know about it.i mean its 1 of the shichibukai.i see it being prob like 370-380
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It's probably higher than Doflamingos. Otherwise it wouldn't really be notably higher than Luffy's. Once you get as high as 300 million, a few millions really aren't a big deal, you know?
Keep in mind that Shichibukai bounties are old too, they are frozed and haven't risen since they acheived their status.
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Moria's bounty: 300,000,000.01
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@Impel:
Moria's bounty: 300,000,000.01
hahaha LOL if only Oda used fractions
My reasons for hoping luffy defeats Moria this arc have nothing to do with a bounty increase. I doubt Luffy will get anymore bounty increases until he maybe defeats one of the Yonkou.
I just don't like all the hype about DoFlamingo, and if Moria's previous bounty is higher than DoFlamingo, then there's even less reason for Luffy to confront DoFlamingo if Luffy defeats Moria this arc. Yes, I know that bounties mean alot of different things, and that fighting styles make a big difference, but i've always been against Luffy fighting too many of the shichibukai.Also, i think Crocodile was the last addition to the Shichibukai and his bounty being only half of what it should have been doesn't necessarily mean that all the shichibukai will be like that.
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Maybe Moria has the 600,000,000 Jackpot!
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More than likely it will be similar to the difference between Kuma and DoFlamingo. My estimate is between 325M and 390M. I don't think it will exceed 400M. To have Luffy confront someone w/ 100M previous bounty difference to his current bounty in what appears to be a small arc would need more development IMO.
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Id laugh if it was 300,000,050 beli
Hes only a chopper stronger than luffy.
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My new guess: He's a tad bit higher than Donflamingo, and they fight about as much as Noitora and Ulquoira over who is truely stronger.
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Maybe if the gecko moria guy is the guy with the sword - zoro will have a go with the big guy this arc and then get an increase in his 'lil old bounty.
of course this wont happen ….
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@Impel:
Maybe Moria has the 600,000,000 Jackpot!
Oda's foreshadowing ?..
Ladies and Gentleman, Gecko Moria bounty is :
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Well, case in point the bounty is probably is notably high, much higher than DoFlamingo's. Robin was genuinely scared when the name was mentioned
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I don't think his bounty is higher than doflamingo's.
I'll bet his bounty is around 310 million'ish.
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I want his bounty to be 600 million, but the chance of the WG accepting someone that dangerous as a Shichibukai is almost nil. (like 2%)
I'm betting on a 450 mil bounty, so Robin would have a real reason for making such a scary face.
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I think his bounty must be quite high though because of Hogback reaction to Luffy's bounty.
He was impressed but there have been many more people much more impressed with a bounty of 100 million. Now most of these people were most unlikely of Hogbacks caliber but still.
Also if Luffys bounty was really close to Gecko Moria he would probaly be like
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Well, and Hogback said something like no ordinary pirate has a bounty that high. I mean, even I'm still adjusting to Luffy having a 300K bounty!
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You're bolding the "I'm" because you presume you're special?
narcisstic much?What will Don's laugh sound like?
I'm shooting for a Dwa-hahahaha.
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Once again, previous bounty.
Crocodile's threat form baroque Works, especially in their operation to take over a country belonging to the World Government, would have easily doubled his bounty.
Also consider, Lucci did not have a bounty(a genius idea by Oda, Luffy finally meets his math but noone has a bounty to go by, because he hates it when people think bounty = their strength perfectly)
Luffy easily can get a 500 million Belly Bounty.
He can definatly exceed that as well.
everytime someone udnersteimates him based on bounty, they end up being proven horribly wrong. "Crocodile is a Shichibukai with an 81 Billion bonuty, you only have 30 million, your strength can't come close, he also has a Logia fruit" "This punk has a bit less than your bounty,Bellamy, you can take him"
Crocodile was finished off, and Bellamy was PWNED in one small punch with no stretching.
Therefore I conclude the main issue will be his strength will come close to Gecko Moria's, but Gecko's power likely exceeds Lucci's, yet his Bounty would be lower than Lucci's would be if he had a bounty, and will have a special ability which it seems that each Shichibukai does.
Crocodile? Super reflexes, able to to turn himself into sand when touched in an aggresive way.
DoFlamingo? Manipulation of some sort.
Mihawk? Excellent and powerful sword techniques.
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I don't think his bounty is higher than doflamingo's.
I'll bet his bounty is around 310 million'ish.
That's just stupid, why would Robin be so shocked if his bounty was so close to the level of Luffy's?
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I think it's pretty much a toss-up whether or not his bounty is higher than Doflamingo's, Robin's seen what an angry Luffy can accomplish, but rather his reputation as a Shichibukai, or even just as a pirate. My guess is that Gecko Moria is either extremely cunning, crafty, and intelligent, or has a reputation for being particularly cruel and sadistic – or even both, given the island he's staying on.
We've had our share of opponents with insane physical strength, I believe it's due time for a tricky opponent who requires some strategy. =P Not that Luffy's new Gears aren't strategy in and of themselves, but it'd be nice to see someone who's difficult to battle -- and not just because Luffy's got his head trapped in a well beating zombies back with teeth-fu or something.
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That's just stupid, why would Robin be so shocked if his bounty was so close to the level of Luffy's?
No. What is stupid, is calling someone else stupid For having an opinion just like you.
This ENTIRE thread is nothing but speculation, noone knows if Moria's bounty is higher or lower than Donflamingo's.
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That's just stupid, why would Robin be so shocked if his bounty was so close to the level of Luffy's?
Not really….think what face robin had in the alabasta arc and thats just by croc(81mille)
I think she is just more scared cause of morias devilfruit and so about his ability....and the bounty just show that he could be the new level for luffy
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I ever believed that the Shichibukai are 2 different groups, the first group is the weak one (3 of them) and the second group is the strong one (4 of them).
Moria is part of the second group with Mihawk.4 Admirals (including Sengoku), 4 Yonkou and 4 top Shichibukai.
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i hope ur not calling croc weak, cause he was a monster,luffy just got lucky
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the shichibukai aren
t equal but all are very strong….. but that croc got one with 81mille and moria with over 300mille could also be cause moria was longer before a pirate and croc was so dangerous that they(the WG) take him to the shichibukai before he will be a enemy for them(also hes a logia user) -
i know it's not the first subjet of this thread but it's like everybody think flamingo has the highter bounty but we don't know shanks, WB or even BB bounty. I think BB is not yet at Luffy level but he will come before we meet him again but i wonder how high are WB and Shanks bounty
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Probably into 1B with WB and like 800K with Shanks Roux (my new Shanks nickname).
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@Impel:
Probably into 1B with WB and like 800K with Shanks Roux (my new Shanks nickname).
haha 1B and 800k seems to be quite a difference doesn't it? I'd say 800mil for Shanks' bounty looks more probable lol.
okok I know it was a typo I just thought it looked quite funny.
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Yeah, I meant 800M.
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No. What is stupid, is calling someone else stupid For having an opinion just like you.
This ENTIRE thread is nothing but speculation, noone knows if Moria's bounty is higher or lower than Donflamingo's.
Except that my opinion is based on fact (Robin is terrifed, this is really unusual for Robin, who shows little emotion,) and common sense (thus his bount must be REALLY high).
His opinion is based on nothing but what he wants to think.
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This ENTIRE thread is nothing but speculation, noone knows if Moria's bounty is higher or lower than Donflamingo's
…isn't that the point?
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@Impel:
Probably into 1B with WB and like 800K with Shanks Roux (my new Shanks nickname).
You probably meant 800M Beri.
Saying bounties don't mean much is a vast understatement. The entire series to date has used bounties to indicate a level of threat to our protagonist for major arc villians. To such an extent, that villians (Enel) w/o a bounty were given an assumed bounty. I'm waiting for the if Lucci were a pirate SBS respnose, b/c we all know many will have asked that question.
Oda has always used bounties to intimidate us into believing the SH are about to encounter a very worthy advosery. Adding crew reactions and character reactions further enhances our expectations of these villians.
My reasons for hoping Moria's bounty is between 325M and 400M are purely personal. I'm not a big DoFlamingo fan, and as much "hype" as he's gotten, i'm still hoping he will not be a major arc antagonist. Same with Jinbei too.
There are 7 members to the shichibukai, and we've already fought 1 of them, and we know that Zoro will have to fight 1 of them. There's a huge potential for Luffy to fight BB towards the end of the series as a series climax and BB will probably be a shichibukai. We've had info about DoFlamingo and Jinbei, but in all honesty, there isn't really any "build" towards fighting them, and i'm hoping it stays this way. More than likely, we'll have the SHs encounter Gecko Moria this arc b/c he's associated w/ the shadow stealer. that'll be 5 out of 8…er 7 battles.so... in having Moria's bounty be close to Luffy's. We can have a shichibukai battle in the 300M+ Beri caliber satisfying our expectations for a pirate of this caliber and get away from the huge expectations of big showdowns w/ DoFlamingo, etc.
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haha 1B and 800k seems to be quite a difference doesn't it? I'd say 800mil for Shanks' bounty looks more probable lol.
okok I know it was a typo I just thought it looked quite funny.
That seems almost based on those rumoured bounties of Shanks and WB that keep creeping on wikipedia, just with extra zeros on the end(for those intereasted, these are those annoying rumours: Shanks = 800,000 and WB= 1 mil).
If its something like 800,000 for Shanks… I'd prefer to see something like 835,000 rather then a striaht rounded up number... Though I don't quite know why. :blink:
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My theory is that Moria has a bounty of 320,000,000.I'm surprised there's even a Shichibukai in the Pre-Fishman Island arc.But the way Doflamingo was talking about "The New Era", he MUST be a primary villain sooner or later.And that can't happen if Moria has a higher bounty than him.
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I think that his bounty is bigger than Doflamingo's. My reasons:
1: I don't like Doflamingo.
2: Geckos are cute animals.
3: Gecko must be dangerous because his ability to take your shadow away.
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Except that my opinion is based on fact (Robin is terrifed, this is really unusual for Robin, who shows little emotion,) and common sense (thus his bount must be REALLY high).
His opinion is based on nothing but what he wants to think.
Your opinion is also what YOU want to think.
Your opinion is not really based on fact, Robin was terrified at the CP9 and an overrated marine fleet called the Buster Call. If any character (like Robin) heard of a big name pirate or any big name person of course they are going to get freaked out. That still is not a good indication that Gekko's bounty is higher than Donflamingo's. If someone told Robin that Doflamingo was waiting for the SH's she would freak out also.
We've had info about DoFlamingo and Jinbei, but in all honesty, there isn't really any "build" towards fighting them, and i'm hoping it stays this way. More than likely, we'll have the SHs encounter Gecko Moria this arc b/c he's associated w/ the shadow stealer. that'll be 5 out of 8…er 7 battles. so... in having Moria's bounty be close to Luffy's. We can have a shichibukai battle in the 300M+ Beri caliber satisfying our expectations for a pirate of this caliber and get away from the huge expectations of big showdowns w/ DoFlamingo, etc.
After reading these posts I can tell alot of people are going off of there own personal preferences.
In all actual fact, Doflamingo has been hyped up for a while now. Doflamingo has displayed his status and power in the Holy Land and he is talking about a "new era" where only the strong survive. Oda is saving him up for a reason and the guy has build-up.
@AD-HD:
I think that his bounty is bigger than Doflamingo's. My reasons:
1: I don't like Doflamingo.
2: Geckos are cute animals.
3: Gecko must be dangerous because his ability to take your shadow away.
4: I don't like Doflamingo. He looks like gay.I rest my case.
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yeah…buit after this arc their sure will come the fishmanisland with jinbei....and he must have a higher bounty than moria and sure he will have a higher than donflamingo..........
don
t know if don really will be fighted by luffy cause his devilfruit is also hard to beat by luffy.... how shouldnt he get controlled (the body) ...????:wassat: but we will seeFor shanks bounty i believe about 750mille and 925mille.....iam thinking 875mille is a nice bounty
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After reading these posts I can tell alot of people are going off of there own personal preferences.
In all actual fact, Doflamingo has been hyped up for a while now. Doflamingo has displayed his status and power in the Holy Land and he is talking about a "new era" where only the strong survive. Oda is saving him up for a reason and the guy has build-up.
I think I established that it was my personal opinion
Nonetheless, the build for DoFlamingo isn't necessarily against the SHs. This is the one hope i'm relying on. I expect him to play a major part in later events, but i'm hoping it will not be in direct relation to the SHs, but instead to the events taking place. For example, a confrontation between DoFlamingo and perhaps another Yonkou where DoFlamingo serves as a jobber to this yonkou to establish what the SHs will face next.
It's funny, just when you think you have a small grasp on the story, Oda pulls the 180 and leaves us all confused. I love this story!
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Doflamingo has a new era where dreams will end, I believe the SH's have dreams.
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If I'm right, Moria has the ability to basically cause people to burst into instant flames by stealing their shadow. This would pretty much equal instant death, which is an incredible power. However I guess it depends on the details of how he does it and any restrictions.
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Donflamingo isn't gay! He's a pimp! He's wearing pimp clothes. All of Sarquiss's hoes were all once his!
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Doflamingo has a new era where dreams will end, I believe the SH's have dreams.
Actually, I believe Don stated that he'll make an era where the strong will survive, and dreams dying will merely be an after thought. After all, part of his reason for killing Bellamy was that he got to passionate about pissing on people's dreams.
As for Don, I think that Bellamy killing scene is the cause for all this confusion/speculation. It seems that from that scene that Donflamingo was going to be the next big thing, and an arc boss, yet here we have two shichibukai coming up with Don no where in sight. It's confusing to me, but my guess is that something else will happen to Don–just not the arc boss part. I think we should consider the possibility that the "don arc" won't happen.
Maybe:
--He'll join the Shs? His dream of an era with no dreams could have some big flashback behind it...
--He'll part a big part against someone in some larger storyline. After all, there are plenty of things bigger then one shichibukai, like Whitebeard, the Holy land, Raftel, or several world power members at once.
--Here's a crazy theory, maybe Donflamingo is taking orders from someone? Perhaps he assumed the role of shichiubkai to keep some greater captain secret, and Donflamingo is actually serving him for the sake of his "new era."
--Maybe Don is secretly working with Dragon? Having a man on the inside, a shichibukai no less, would be a great assest to a revolutionary. Plus, many people have compared Don's "era dream" to be similar to a revolution--which Dragon is planning.
Hey, I really like that last one. Anyone thinking that Don and Dragon are in league?
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Hello again onemoment.
Well it seems that you have your mind made up that Donflamingo won't be an arc boss. I am not saying that none of your theories may not come true because they can. I just got the notion that Doflamingo seems more like a boss character.
Well, I guess we will have to wait and see.
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Hello again onemoment.
Well it seems that you have your mind made up that Donflamingo won't be an arc boss. I am not saying that none of your theories may not come true because they can. I just got the notion that Doflamingo seems more like a boss character.
Well, I guess we will have to wait and see.
Seems reasonable. After all, it's all speculation.
Let's wait and see…
