This chapter is seriously intense….. Knowing when to run and when to fight won this chapter for me.
Chapter 512 "No Contact From Zoro" Discussion
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I want to know if Sanji is meaning with his statement that his legs are going to break is a drawback of his Diable Jambe or the stronger than iron body of Kuma…
I think he has to start to kick through iron or slice the air that he could cut the air.
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Kizaru is Lightman
Aokiji is Iceman
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For me it is clear that Kuma saved Zoro because he would have been killed by px1.He also has been teleported somewhere close , and in 3 days will join the crew and set sail to fishmen Island
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I just got in crazy idea, its stated that Kuma is the most loyal Samurai, but he didn't kill anyone of the SH in TB. And we still don't know the reason for his retreat. Why would he do that?
There was a panel, that is really interisting with all the current developments.
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-485/page017.html
As to be expected of your son, Dragon.
This is really wierd, even the highest Marines, don't know about this, but Kuma does?
And now he stoped PX-1, why would he do that?
He teleported Zoro, who know where to. I think its really clear that he saved zoros live and why did he do that?The answer to all this question could be this sentence:
Kuma is Dragons spy.
I know that this is an crazy theory, but think about it
And when i continue to think about this thought, it could be that Zoro was send to Dragon. I don't want to say that Dragon is going to rescue their asses, probably he's going to prepare everything for the long expected meeting with his son. -
If Kuma is Dragon's spy then Vegapunk is also on his side and i doubt that.
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I want to know if Sanji is meaning with his statement that his legs are going to break is a drawback of his Diable Jambe or the stronger than iron body of Kuma…
I think he has to start to kick through iron or slice the air that he could cut the air.
i think its because of kuma body
i tihnk this only because of sanji's cp9 fight
it was the heat that done wolf man in not sanji breaking tekkaii didn't realise the drawback especially after the oz fight of the attack i thought by know he already knew how to kick or break steal with his fire foot i guess i was wrong
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It is clear that Kuma helped zoro but we gonna see in the next chapter if he's really Dragon spy.If he's not then all the strawhats should be finished by him , but they would be saved by someone else probably Garp.
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Well… if Rayleigh kicks every enemy's ass in there... then i m surprised. But if someone old buddy comes and saves, it's normal shonen action. That zoro disappearing gives nice twist and what i really hope, is when Luffy go some kind of berserk and kick almost everybody there... and some one clams him, like grandfather dude.
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The think the real reason for the arrival of kuma is to be sure that all the strawhats are alive.I mean there were kizaru , px1 and sentoumaru.they would easily beat the strawhats in their condition.Kuma has arrived on his own will , without any order only for the sake of strawhats.
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I personally don't want to see Luffy go pyscho on everybodies ass.
He's too tired,Up against a pacifista(Maybe a Shichibukai),Vegapunk's body gaurd(Strongest defence in th word…....)it'll be unrealistic even beyond OP standards.Unless Luffy magically regains health and develops Gear 4.I see someone eles saving the Mugiwara's.
My guess are:
Kuma(Maybe)
Garp
Kid and Law
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My guese are
1.Someone or something will help the mugiwara escape,because they in this moment they can only be saved
2.It will be a 3 days rest for the crew where new powers-up will apear cause all of them would think of how powerless they were
3.Kizaru for sure will be beatet or will flee the fight
4.while the crew will rest for 3 days we will se the fight between whitbeard and the wg ,
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I've just had another thought about this chapter
silver is showing glimps of how strong rodger may have been
but hes also showign where Zoro and probally sanji need to be by the end of this storystronger than admirals
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I think Perona is in the book, because Kuma write before something in. For Zoro, Kuma doesn’t write in his book and the teleport look different than by Perona. So I think Zoro was smart enough to don’t give an answer. If Zorro had give an answer he will be in the book, but I am happy that he was smart and don’t give an answer and Kuma teleported him for real. It’s up to Kuma where Zoro get teleported.
I think my theory from Spoiler Thread fits here, too:
My funny prediction for Zoro: He got teleport to the Tenryuubito. He becomes the slave from Sankt Charlos. The nurse and new wife from Sankt Charlos help Zoro to regenerate. Than after Zoro is fit enough to fight he rips his neckband and make many damage on many Tenryuubito. He frees the Nurse and maybe other slaves. Than the Stawhats meet again and must hurry for Fishman Island because the last admiral Aka Inu follows Zoro. That would be awesome.
Wow, maybe it is foreshadow from Oda, of course the picture looks not like 10 thousand meters under the surface but it could be a hint. Zoro get the vivre card from Silvers and Silvers goes with the Strawhats to Fishman Island. Impel down is near Fishman Island and Zoro flee on his own from Impel Down to meet the Strawhats in Fishland Island. That would be awesome. I hope this one get real. -
I think Perona is in the book, because Kuma write before something in. For Zoro, Kuma doesn’t write in his book and the teleport look different than by Perona. So I think Zoro was smart enough to don’t give an answer. If Zorro had give an answer he will be in the book, but I am happy that he was smart and don’t give an answer and Kuma teleported him for real. It’s up to Kuma where Zoro get teleported.
I think my theory from Spoiler Thread fits here, too:
http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/kvyv788/thumb/OdasforeshadowingandZorosnextswordma.jpg
Wow, maybe it is foreshadow from Oda, of course the picture looks not like 10 thousand meters under the surface but it could be a hint. Zoro get the vivre card from Silvers and Silvers goes with the Strawhats to Fishman Island. Impel down is near Fishman Island and Zoro flee on his own from Impel Down to meet the Strawhats in Fishland Island. That would be awesome. I hope this one get real.i know Zoro is strong but i don't think he could escape impel down alone full strength or with a handicap hes not at that lvl yet
n with ur mini prediction kizaru would be the chaser not the 3rd admiral
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Now would be the perfect time to start the main attraction everyone's been waiting for: Whitebeard Pirates vs WG.
I don't see Whitebeard and his crew simply waiting for the WG to assemble all of their forces at the Red Line/Mariejoa and the World Government seems to be completely in the stronger position right now, so how about the WB Pirates make the first aggressive move?
Here's my hope/preditction for next chapter: A group of Whitebeard Pirates arrive at Shabondy Archipelago (they were sent ahead through Fishman Island to prevent the World Government from getting any more reinforcements from the Grand Line to Mariejoa) and suddenly the ones getting beaten down and trying to run away are the Marines, the Pacifistas and Sentoumaru have to leave quickly to try and stop the WB pirates.
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i know Zoro is strong but i don't think he could escape impel down alone full strength or with a handicap hes not at that lvl yet
n with ur mini prediction kizaru would be the chaser not the 3rd admiral
its too soon to show off the final oneI thought he makes his outbreak after tree day’s recovery and he gets help from his old foes from Alabasta.
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Chopper in monster form probably won't do much harm to the superpowerful fighters, but I think it may be a good reason for Vegapunk to appear: he will probably want to learn from that form, and in the end he will probably help chopper gaining control or disable the side effects.
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Hmm, do you guys see Brook carrying Zoros swords ? How many are there - 2 right ?
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I thought he makes his outbreak after tree day’s recovery and he gets help from his old foes from Alabasta.
I highly doubt that.
For one I don't even think Kuma sent him to Impel Down. In my opinion Impel Down is strictly for DF users only, being uderwater and proably the whole place is made from seastone or atleast the shackles and prison bars are. I doubt Zoro a non DF user would be sent there.
And two, I hope it'll take more than three days to heal from all these wounds.
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If raylegh after so many years with no training and as the first mate of gold roger has an advantage over a marine admiral then Whitebeard could beat al three admirals at once.
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wow people your complaining of rayleigh vs kizaru could get annoying after a while
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I just got in crazy idea, its stated that Kuma is the most loyal Samurai, but he didn't kill anyone of the SH in TB. And we still don't know the reason for his retreat. Why would he do that?
He stated that it'd be useful to fight the Strawhats in their state. So he decidd to just go after Luffy alone which was when Zoro made his offer.
I think just because a speech bubble wasn't shown for Zoro, doesn't mean that he didn't say anything. It wouldn't make sense for Kuma to ask then just teleport him away before he could say anything. He likely did answer did answer the question, but it wasn't drawn in for obvious reasons.
Now would be the perfect time to start the main attraction everyone's been waiting for: Whitebeard Pirates vs WG.
I don't see Whitebeard and his crew simply waiting for the WG to assemble all of their forces at the Red Line/Mariejoa and the World Government seems to be completely in the stronger position right now, so how about the WB Pirates make the first aggressive move?
Here's my hope/preditction for next chapter: A group of Whitebeard Pirates arrive at Shabondy Archipelago (they were sent ahead through Fishman Island to prevent the World Government from getting any more reinforcements from the Grand Line to Mariejoa) and suddenly the ones getting beaten down and trying to run away are the Marines, the Pacifistas and Sentoumaru have to leave quickly to try and stop the WB pirates.
I don't think that's going to happen any time soon (in terms of chapter.) Whitebeard is likely not a few hours away from the Marine HQ, he'd likely be days if not weeks at least. Unless he started moving before Ace's execution was actually announced and only the fact that he was at Impel Down (which was probably only a few days prior to the current events.)
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@Fiasco.:
I highly doubt that.
For one I don't even think Kuma sent him to Impel Down. In my opinion Impel Down is strictly for DF users only, being uderwater and proably the whole place is made from seastone or atleast the shackles and prison bars are. I doubt Zoro a non DF user would be sent there.
And two, I hope it'll take more than three days to heal from all these wounds.
I never intent to say that Zoro is full recovered after three day’s recovery, only that he is than fit enough for an outbreak. For sure the theory isn’t certain, but I like this idea anyway.
@Roronoa:If raylegh after so many years with no training and as the first mate of gold roger has an advantage over a marine admiral then Whitebeard could beat al three admirals at once.
Rayleigh and Whitebeard are in my opinion even or really near, so I don’t think Whitebeard will dominate all three admirals at once. Whitebeards greatest strengths is his ultralarge and strong crew.
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At best, at best, the Strawhats may be at a level to fight either very strong commodores or Vice Admirals, they were taking down Captains like flies. To be sent to impel down is way too much. The Marine HQ is right next door where every other person is a Vice Admiral! Plus, where could the other two Admirals be, theres a 50/50 chance of either Marine HQ or Marijou (Spelled right?) Two places that screamed "YOU'RE FUCKED" If they're lucky, Aokiji will be away riding his bicicyle [plays Queen song in my head]
The odd thing is, although Kuma says he thought Zoro died, he techniquelly interfers with PX-1's pursuit of the SH. Tells him to stop before making Zoro go POOF! I dont know if this is a show of mercy or simply Kuma wants to finish off Zoro himself since he promised his head in place of Luffys. Where he was sent is unknown. Either he was sent to a location that he quickly said under his breath, or Kuma sent him to a place of his choosing. Damn it! Moria, why couldn't you elaborate more on Kumas abilities. But its ok, you're still badass. My theories are Bar, Ship, Marine Ship, Book. Its crazy but hey, One Piece is a crazy series.
EDIT: Also, what does everybody think of my new signature?
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can someone give a link that impel down is near mariejoa? i thought it was on ennies lobby the gate where spandam? (idk the spelling xD) will imprisoned nico robin. O.o
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Ok, lets collect some thoughts: Who do we know, who can actually help the strawhats or at least make a change in this situation?!
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Law and Kidd: They both had a strong crew, they are together practically like 2x Strawhats. They could have beaten the Pacifista PX-x. But why would they come back? The Strawhats and Kizaru are on the other side of the archipel…
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Bonney, Gang Bege: They didnt fight against Kizaru or the Pacifistas, perhaps they are of some help, perhaps they helped the 4 captains, beaten by Kizaru too...
=> Supernova activity, united the pirates fight off the Marines. It is possible.
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Flying Fishies: Superfast flying fishs come handy when you try to flee from a battlefield! (Contra: How do you transport Chopper? And why would they return? ) At least... it is a possibility. (Where was the den-den-mushi? ;))
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Garp has still to arrive! Otherwise the whole buildup would be wasted. He knew Sengoku wouldnt let Rayleigh get away once he was spotted... but not telling him made this mission hard for Kizaru, which is ironically the situation he didnt want to happen. (Not shure how he will help... somehow i get the feeling Oda just wanted to show the whole trick about Kizaru's mission)
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Shakky beats the enemys ;) (Luffy: Amazing, you are strong, ba-san!, Shakky: Shure, i am Rogers SISTER! (andyourmother)) Just a joke... but if it comes true, you heard it here first...
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Hachi comes along with a fishmen gang, beating the Tenryuubito shure is in their interest! Remember how even Arlong wanted to ride the wheel! And what the hate of the Shabondy-people did to his world...
Countless other people still can arrive.... but i only want to work with the people who are already involved!
The supernovas seem to be the best way... still we need to know what made Kuma come to Shabondy AND what he did to Zoro. I doubt Kizaru will leave without beating Rayleigh and punishing the Strawhats. And i doubt Kizaru can lose this situation.
Outcome 1: Everybody gets captured, the Marines don't lose their face to the Tenryuubito, the Shichibukai and Kizaru go to war. (Zoro rescues the Strawhats from prison. (That would make Kuma god ;) (and Oda too...)))
Outcome 2: Kizaru gets beaten, by a lot of help. I dont think this will happen... 3 Pacifistas still work (unless the Novas did something) and a Shichibukai is there... who only wouldn't attack the strawhats, because of Zoro's sacrifice.
Outcome 3: Kizaru has to stop fighting because of some reasons.
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It was stated that both Navy HQ and Impel Down are the only points beyond the Gates of Justice (that doesn't neccessarily mean that they are the only way to access it.) And that Impel Down is underwate. I don't think much else has been stated.
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Eeeeh, i don't wanna see chibi-Kizaru. There is no hope surviving unless someone change side.
ΠΛΑΝΗΤΕΣ [Air Gear 243\. The best. Chapter. Ever.]
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Whoa this chapter was sick, all the way from the SH's utter feeling of despair to Rayleigh somehow managing to cut Kizaru. Then theres the mad twist at the end which was unexpected to say the least, seems like the SH's are all going to be split up for a while, while they nurse their injuries etc
I expect Chopper wont do much but will allow them to somehow get away perhaps with the help of another unexpected ally, as for Zoro I'm thinking Kuma did actually help him in some way. I doubt he'd give him a shot in life only to allow him to die here. One things for sure though he isn't dead, anyways bring on the next chapter the wait is already killin' me lol.
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OMG
Zoro has been chosen to become a px bot
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Click above suprisingly addictive
http://mybrute.com/team/107019
join the team if your strong enough
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Impel Down may be in West Blue:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/396/15/
Why would an Admiral just be dicking around at some random Marine Branch in West Blue unless it was somewhat important?
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@Fire Fist:
Why would an Admiral just be dicking around at some random Marine Branch in West Blue unless it was somewhat important?
Let me guess…. because the captured Olvia there?!
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I am sure that Monster Chopper will put out of the scene Sentoumaru and/or the PX-1.
A lot of people are saying that Monster Chopper is weak, please, he is not weak, he was able to put a CP9 with Douriki above 800 with a single blow and Luffy Gear 2 being at 100% needed more than one.
And we must remember one thing, Sentoumaru is beating a tired Gear 1 Luffy, in other words Luffy isn´t at 100% against Luffy.
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Read it back to back with 511, and boy am I glad I did wait. But man, this one ended on an even bigger cliffhanger. It'd be pretty interesting if Zoro actually did get sent far away, even tho I love Zoro.
I'm gonna lawl if any Zoro fannies come in here BAWWWING that they're quitting One Piece cause Zoro is gone (if they haven't already).
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Whoa this chapter was sick, all the way from the SH's utter feeling of despair to Rayleigh somehow managing to cut Kizaru. Then theres the mad twist at the end which was unexpected to say the least, seems like the SH's are all going to be split up for a while, while they nurse their injuries etc
I expect Chopper wont do much but will allow them to somehow get away perhaps with the help of another unexpected ally, as for Zoro I'm thinking Kuma did actually help him in some way. I doubt he'd give him a shot in life only to allow him to die here. One things for sure though he isn't dead, anyways bring on the next chapter the wait is already killin' me lol.
i was thinking about that, we have already zoro gone, also nami and franky, we didnt saw them after sanji asked them to run away, in the next chapter i think luffy will ask robin to stop but she will tell him than chopper is doing this to let them escape, and they will run away too, chopper will loose and brought to vegapunk, i dont know what exactly will happen to brook and ussop and sanji but i think they will run away too so we have got:
-Zoro on his own
-Luffy + Robin
-Nami + Franky
-Ussop + Brook + Sanji
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Let me guess…. because the captured Olvia there?!
Sorry, but that's not enough. Remember what the Gorosei said about Aokiji going to check up on Robin? The Admirals have shit to do, they can't just go wherever they want. (Well, they can, like Kuzan did, but they're not supposed to).
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OMG
Zoro has been chosen to become a px bot
Heh know you were joking but that sounds fun, People who manage to survive that pain transfer thing are deemed strong enough to survive the pacifista making process and get collected by Kuma, would explain why he let them live before
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Thanks. Going to read now.
Well, look at the pics cause I don't know chinese ^^ummm… its not chinese its japanese.
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Heh know you were joking but that sounds fun, People who manage to survive that pain transfer thing are deemed strong enough to survive the pacifista making process and get collected by Kuma, would explain why he let them live before
yea i was joking lol it be too scary robo zoro
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I'm gonna lawl if any Zoro fannies come in here BAWWWING that they're quitting One Piece cause Zoro is gone (if they haven't already).
If they think Zoro is gone for good they don't deserve to even be One Piece fans.
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I watched-read this chapter on youtube (dont know how accurate the translations were) I wonder if Akainu has a logia devil fruit. Aokiji and Kizaru each have one. Aokiji has ice and Kizaru has light. Akainu has…? I dunno.
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ummm… its not chinese its japanese.
Actually the scan freedom was referring to was a Chinese scan, which came out first. So yeah… you're wrong >_>
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I watched-read this chapter on youtube (dont know how accurate the translations were) I wonder if Akainu has a logia devil fruit. Aokiji and Kizaru each have one. Aokiji has ice and Kizaru has light. Akainu has…? I dunno.
It's already confirmed. In the last chapter (311) he said he had the "Pika Pika Fruit" (I can't find the translation for "Pika", I presumed something with light.) and that it makes him the incarnation of light "I guess that makes me a Logia user".
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I watched-read this chapter on youtube (dont know how accurate the translations were) I wonder if Akainu has a logia devil fruit. Aokiji and Kizaru each have one. Aokiji has ice and Kizaru has light. Akainu has…? I dunno.
Always thought Akianu = Lava
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Theres A New Thread About Akainus Power Might Be
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Zoro doesn't have a 命の紙(biburu card) of his own. So it won't be burning if his life is in danger.
Yea he does.
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-507/page010.html
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yeah but it only burns if the person who gave there nail to make it is dying. he may have got 1 but its not made out of his own dna which specifily could tell you how the person is doing. like ace gave luffy one that has his dna by using his nail so it would be burning if he was dying or in deep trouble.
doesnt the cards only point to the person who the card is specificlly for so doesnt that mean the card will only find rayleigh cause the cards was meant to find him cause he was moving the ship so that he can coat the ship without distractions. so wouldnt mean that it wouldnt find zoro but rayleigh who doesnt need to be found.
not to be a downer but wouldnt that mean there is no way to find zoro now well for them that is unless kuma tells them
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Again, I'm almost sure that Vegapunk will appear and do something for Chopper, else who will save Chopper this time ? There is no water around to stop the DF effect…
