well I'm not saying he's not a powerhouse because he's def stronger than the weak trio but not at the monster trio level, but since He's big and Bulky it just screams power to me, and now Oda has given us a defeated Kumabot(well maybe not defeated) , sooooooo who better to examine/copy Vegapunk's technology, and incorporate it into himself than the SH's very own cyrborg (specially since they have 3 days), So maybe Franky will become the SH's new powerhouse (I mean > than the monster trio) and maybe able to hold back Kizaru long enough for the SN to escape until of course the monster trio will catch up to his strenght cause u know they will. so this is a crazy theory but trying to predict Oda is next to impossible but that's my 2 cents.
Franky might be getting a big upgrade
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He felt that laser weapons were unrealistic. Short of removing the lasers from Kumabot #2 and installing them in himself, I don't think he has a sufficient grasp of the science involved in making lasers to include them in his arsenal. Not that he couldn't learn, but I doubt even Franky could pick it up in less than three days. As for using a superior grade of steel to fortify his defenses, I could see that happening, but I doubt he's going to get much time to analyze Kumabot #2; if I were mass-producing human weapons, I sure wouldn't want a clever enemy turning them against me, and I wouldn't think twice about initiating the self-destruct sequence on it either.
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I think it's highly probable. They could bring the Kumabot (or part of it) on the boat.
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I would love it but I doubt it. Oda is lazy about Franky. He was shown to be a monster even as strong as base Luffy in W7 but now he isn't getting any spotlight like the Monster Trio… I hoped for more.
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I would love it but I doubt it. Oda is lazy about Franky. He was shown to be a monster even as strong as base Luffy in W7 but now he isn't getting any spotlight like the Monster Trio… I hoped for more.
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I think it's highly probable. They could bring the Kumabot (or part of it) on the boat.
It'd be pretty cool if the SHs accidentally reprogrammed a Kumabot and it became a temporary crew member through Fishmen Island. It'd have the Terminator plot base of learning new things from the crew and dying an honourable death. It's unlikely, but it'd be a cool add to a plot.
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@$abZ:
It'd be pretty cool if the SHs accidentally reprogrammed a Kumabot and it became a temporary crew member through Fishmen Island. It'd have the Terminator plot base of learning new things from the crew and dying an honourable death. It's unlikely, but it'd be a cool add to a plot.
Kuma-Bot will be reprogrammed into the next crewmate :D But what about Caimie? I suppose she's first.
Should I make the flag now? hrm….
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@$abZ:
It'd be pretty cool if the SHs accidentally reprogrammed a Kumabot and it became a temporary crew member through Fishmen Island. It'd have the Terminator plot base of learning new things from the crew and dying an honourable death. It's unlikely, but it'd be a cool add to a plot.
It already happened , the original one was reprogrammed by Dragon.
We don't want the same story with his son.As for the main subject - the upgrade of Franky: We already had those discussions before , Sanji had to learn rankyaku , Zoro had to have a funkfried weapon, chopper had to learn life return, etc….
but it never happened and do you know why , it is not original to take something from your enemy so I geuss Franky won't get a Kumabot-upgrade!
Thanks for reading, ciao.
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Franky's upgrade really depends on Oda wanting to shuffle around the power rankings in the Straw Hat group. I feel Robin, while not physically strong, is offensively number three in the Straw Hats because her techniques tend to exploit weak-spots for massive damage. Oda however is pretty adamant about keeping Sanji in the top three, possibly because more Sanji fans would be upset about him downgraded than other Straw Hat fans ecstatic about another character being elevated.
Oda's an enigma - sometimes he plays the formula and sometimes he experiments with something innovative. However, I don't think he'll shuffle up the rankings at all unless another pure fighter comes on board the ship.
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The only upgrade I want with Franky is him drinking somekind of special fuel making him go insanly strong and hot headed, though he should still have his concious so it doesnt get to similair to monster choppa.
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I say screw rankings, eventually Franky will get upgrades, as the situations allow/demand it. Remember him saying: "This week's me is SSSUUUUUUPPPAAAAAA~~!!!" Well obviously he seems to change every week, so I wouldn't be surprised if he changed soon just to keep on being as SSUUUUUPPPAAAAA as ever.
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good theroy… its possible that the SH take the kumabot with the, they could see the vegapunk invention :O
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Well, even if they do take Bearbot with them it may be a while before Franky fully understands Vegabunk's secrets. The principle (a cyborg) may end up being the same but as genius as Vegabunk and Franky are two different people and so they wont produce two identical designs.
Ask two kids to draw a stickman each; their drawings will appear identical but their will be differences if you inspect them close enough. One child may do slightly bigger heads, the other shorter arms, etc.
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I can't really imagine oda making franky strong enough to take on kizaru but I'm not oda. It wouold be cool if it happened though
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But you all forget the trump card:
Luffy is captain. And his eyes light up at the concept of beams. I can imagine him saying
"Franky! Add the beams to yourself so you can shoot them!"
Of course, he'd just use them as a giant laser-pointer, emitting beams for Luffy's amusement.
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her techniques tend to exploit weak-spots for massive damage.
(Yeah, didn't mean to make fun of you I just saw that dialogue)
As for Franky, the means that he gets power-ups pretty much has to be limited to upgrades akin to Usopp or Nami. Compared to the "big three", who's ability upgrades are all connected to their own abilities and skills, Franky's are all pretty much limited to whatever he can find and discover out there that he can use to help "himself". If he wants to be more powerful or remain a key player in the New World, he is going to have to use his own engineering skills as well as his own genius (which may not be Vegapunk-level but still smart in these matters) to improve his functionability. I'm in no way expecting him to even adapt the "Kuma lasers" or understand and adapt a DF ability like Vegapunk but he is going to need to use his mind to upgrade his body.
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But you all forget the trump card:
Luffy is captain. And his eyes light up at the concept of beams. I can imagine him saying
"Franky! Add the beams to yourself so you can shoot them!"
Of course, he'd just use them as a giant laser-pointer, emitting beams for Luffy's amusement.
Dude, Luffy and no one has that kind of authority over Franky.
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Dude, Luffy and no one has that kind of authority over Franky.
What do you mean by that? Luffy is the captain. He gets the last word.
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Coup de Vent + Kizaru's laser = Coup de KAMEHAHMEHA
yes to Franky with lasers
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It should be called Coup de Hameha. It rolls of the tongue better.
Yes to Franky with Laser.
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While upgrades to Franky are inevitable, just as Luffy, Zoro or any other Straw Hat create new techniques, if you seriously think Oda'll make Franky stronger than Luffy, or even just as strong as him, I quite frankly have to say that you're probably reading the wrong manga
Also, I for one would hate it if Franky got lasers; Oda's going crazy lately with all this hi-tech shit (Kumabots and lasers being some) and it kinda feels out of place in a pirate themed manga
But if Oda does decide to go that way and gives Franky a mouth laser like Kuma, I nominate the name Coup de Woop
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What do you mean by that? Luffy is the captain. He gets the last word.
The guy I replied to was refering to Luffy asking Franky to add lasers to himself…I'm thinking that's he might have a problem with Luffy demanding him to modify his body.
C'mon. Zoro and Sanji would smack Luffy's head in if he asked them to get a nose ring or whatever. The captain has the "last word," but some requests are just unreasonable.
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I think this would be cool, I can see Franky and Usopp taking a busted up Kuma onto the ship and doing experiments on it.
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The guy I replied to was refering to Luffy asking Franky to add lasers to himself…I'm thinking that's he might have a problem with Luffy demanding him to modify his body.
If Luffy asked Franky this he may do it as he might find it cool.
and Franky is gonna need to get upgrades for the New World if he wants to be any help.
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If Luffy asked Franky this he may do it as he might find it cool.
and Franky is gonna need to get upgrades for the New World if he wants to be any help.
I believe Franky will upgrade himself, but not so much from copying Kumabots but by coming up with his own stuff. Nails and fire are cooler then mouth cannons.
My point was I don't see Franky moding his body solely because of Luffy's "captain authority." Not only that, but it's a disturbing idea.
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Franky shouldn't copy kuma lazer, he should get a PLASMA GUN install!!!
Due to the high temperature limitation, he can only fire it after cooling a period of time.
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I believe Franky will upgrade himself, but not so much from copying Kumabots but by coming up with his own stuff. Nails and fire are cooler then mouth cannons.
Yeah i agree although he may use some of the Kumabot's parts if he can understand them(bearing in mind franky is technically looking 500 years into the future) he may find about some upgrade off Rayleigh maybe(if he knows how to coat the ship he may have some kind of technological knowledge that could help Franky somehow).
My point was I don't see Franky moding his body solely because of Luffy's "captain authority." Not only that, but it's a disturbing idea.
I also agree with you on this one too, also Luffy probably wouldn't ask him this, he'd want Franky to repair it so luffy could use it for fun.
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But suppose these Kumabots do have a self-destruct function. Bringing it onboard Thousand Sunny could prove catastrophic if such is the case. Where would Franky install a laser, anyway? Get your minds out of the gutters!!
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Franky will become One Piece's Megaman!!!!
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Franky's upgrade really depends on Oda wanting to shuffle around the power rankings in the Straw Hat group. I feel Robin, while not physically strong, is offensively number three in the Straw Hats because her techniques tend to exploit weak-spots for massive damage. Oda however is pretty adamant about keeping Sanji in the top three, possibly because more Sanji fans would be upset about him downgraded than other Straw Hat fans ecstatic about another character being elevated.
Oda's an enigma - sometimes he plays the formula and sometimes he experiments with something innovative. However, I don't think he'll shuffle up the rankings at all unless another pure fighter comes on board the ship.
Nothing against you and sexy Robin, but TB an the fight against weak Zombies of Sanji and Zoro showed us that she is weaker even if she has a grat DF and high offense.
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I doubt Franky will add lasers to himself. I could see him upgradeing the metal his body is made of. He could also upgrade his current weapons.
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Franky next upgrade won't necessary modify his body, he can make some attachment on his arm, went he is not using them he can store them in his pack bag.
some dial's make attachment would be nice too, simple ignition system + gas dial attachment + his original air gun may launch a powerful fire ball.
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lol at Robin being number three. She's not even number four. The only thing she can do against the Pacifista is bang his head shut, while Franky, Zoro and Sanji all actually inflicted Damage.
Anyway, i believe that Franky has cemented his position as number four and thus will get an upgrade when this arc finishes, just in time for the battles on Fishman Island/The New World.
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Currently Brooke is for me number four. He made more damage than Franky. Franky is for sure stronger than Robin in raw strength. Anyhow Robin has good techniques and is high in her own sweet way.
Further I think Franky can be stronger without hgh-tech. He has a human Body under his metal and can so gather strength without upgrade.
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I believe Franky will upgrade himself, but not so much from copying Kumabots but by coming up with his own stuff. Nails and fire are cooler then mouth cannons.
My point was I don't see Franky moding his body solely because of Luffy's "captain authority." Not only that, but it's a disturbing idea.
This is true, but I'm sure that Luffy wouldn't command him to do it he would just suggest it and hope that it sticks. I was just asking that because Luffy does have supreme authority over the crew and could pretty much tell them to do what he wants. The only time they didn't was the Usopp incident.
I could still see Franky with a single arm laser Rockman style. It would take up a large reserve of cola preventing it from being hax and it would probably be much weaker than a Kuma laser. It would probably be changed from a piercing laser to a non-lethal washing laser a la DBZ.
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Currently Brooke is for me number four. He made more damage than Franky. Franky is for sure stronger than Robin in raw strength. Anyhow Robin has good techniques and is high in her own sweet way.
Further I think Franky can be stronger without hgh-tech. He has a human Body under his metal and can so gather strength without upgrade.
More damage than Franky on what? Brooke tried his attack against the Pacifista and couldn't pierce the metal. i.e. his attack was negated.
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I could still see Franky with a single arm laser Rockman style. It would take up a large reserve of cola preventing it from being hax and it would probably be much weaker than a Kuma laser. It would probably be changed from a piercing laser to a non-lethal washing laser a la DBZ.
He should get stronger from his own intellegence, but if he can someway incorporate the laser in it might help from time to time.
Maybe he could make a Burn bazooka from some Dials if he can get them off ussopp(and if he can find out how to make them), and he would be able to use it in different Calibers(i just think it's be kinda cool).
Originally Posted by sabret00the
Originally Posted by Besserwisser
Currently Brooke is for me number four. He made more damage than Franky. Franky is for sure stronger than Robin in raw strength. Anyhow Robin has good techniques and is high in her own sweet way.Further I think Franky can be stronger without hgh-tech. He has a human Body under his metal and can so gather strength without upgrade
More damage than Franky on what? Brooke tried his attack against the Pacifista and couldn't pierce the metal. i.e. his attack was negated.
Yeah and wasn't Franky's saving chopper first and then stalling(weren't they all stalling until Nami got he Thunder Lance Tempo off?).
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More damage than Franky on what? Brooke tried his attack against the Pacifista and couldn't pierce the metal. i.e. his attack was negated.
But he makes a big hole in his clothes. In One Piece I have the feeling that only at strong attacks clothes got holes. Franky don’t make a scratch on the clothes if I remember right.
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But he makes a big hole in his clothes. In One Piece I have the feeling that only at strong attacks clothes got holes. Franky don’t make a scratch on the clothes if I remember right.
What the Fuck. What the Fuck. What the Fuck.
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What the Fuck. What the Fuck. What the Fuck.
Are you sightless?
On this picture you see the hole.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/510/12/Look at the last line in the centre and it looks for me like the damage from the Pacifista recover (maybe it is only smoke).
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But he makes a big hole in his clothes. In One Piece I have the feeling that only at strong attacks clothes got holes. Franky don’t make a scratch on the clothes if I remember right.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/508/17/
here Franky was able to deform the Kumabot for a while. And that's quite a deformation.http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/510/12/
Here, I can't even see a hole on the Kumabots body. Anyways, even if Brooke was able to pierce through the bot's body, the deformation caused by Franky is still the one which requires more force.Edit:
Besserwisser got to reply first before me.Besserwisser, regarding the second link you've given, I can't see what you're talking about.
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I only take the view that we can’t be sure if Brooke or Franky is stronger. Maybe I am one of the few which think that way. Let’s go back to topic.
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Are you sightless?
On this picture you see the hole.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/510/12/Look at the last line in the centre and it looks for me like the damage from the Pacifista recover (maybe it is only smoke).
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/510/13/lol, in the panel you're taking about. that smoke is as a direct result of the usopp attack.
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lol, in the panel you're taking about. that smoke is as a direct result of the usopp attack.
How I said, maybe smoke. But bizarrely the jags are on the same place where Brooke hit. Further the qualm goes left with the wind (I assume). So I see no basis to see these jags caused by Usopps attack because his damage goes direct in the mouth and so comes the qualm from the mouth, too.
Furthermore the spikes are not influenced by wind, so I don’t think that this is qualm.
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But he makes a big hole in his clothes. In One Piece I have the feeling that only at strong attacks clothes got holes. Franky don’t make a scratch on the clothes if I remember right.
Uhh, didn't Brook and Franky both attack Kumabot's head? where would there be clothes to damage?
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Uhh, didn't Brook and Franky both attack Kumabot's head? where would there be clothes to damage?
Brooke hit the right shoulder.
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But he makes a big hole in his clothes. In One Piece I have the feeling that only at strong attacks clothes got holes. Franky don’t make a scratch on the clothes if I remember right.
Sorry but… LOL facepalm
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Thank You^^
But that logic is behind even for shonen logic.