^ cause they it's Naruto so it's equally bad whether it's filler or not. Plus some episodes are hilariously bad.
Naruto Discussion V [Re-Re-Redux]
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I do it cause I'm bored.
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I remember dreaming about watching the part where Gato went into the bridge and was about to use his henchmen to kill everyone on the bridge then Zabuza screamed in the top of his lungs "OMG!!!!!!!!!!! ITS OROCHIMARU!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE GET INTO SHELTER FAST BEFORE HE KILLS US ALLL!!!!!" Everyone went into small houses then they got out and they got back to the stuff they were doing.
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I remember dreaming about watching the part where Gato went into the bridge and was about to use his henchmen to kill everyone on the bridge then Zabuza screamed in the top of his lungs "OMG!!!!!!!!!!! ITS OROCHIMARU!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE GET INTO SHELTER FAST BEFORE HE KILLS US ALLL!!!!!" Everyone went into small houses then they got out and they got back to the stuff they were doing.
Zabuza sword can't be beat.
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why in the hell are you watchin filler episodes anyways? don't you know that you lose 20 IQ points whenever you watch a filler.
It's better than anything part 2 has come out with anime or manga wise at this point. The fillers don't seem as bad now.
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It's better than anything part 2 has come out with anime or manga wise at this point. The fillers don't seem as bad now.
From what I've seen, the fillers (so far) have variable qualities that go from really good (Bikochuu) to good but extremely strange and confusing (Fuuma) to "why the heck am I watching this" (Mizuki, Raiga). Maybe it isn't the highlight of anime writing but I guess I've been entertained more than any time during the Uchiha fight at least.
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I hated the filler. The episodes right before shippuden are some of the worst quality episodes of Naruto. Shippuden is really freaking good comparatively and I adore the music. Plus, it's nice seeing some of these fights in action.
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well I guess the fillers can't be as worst as PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE
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Manos Hands of Fate FTL ,Just joking.
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well I guess the fillers can't be as worst as PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE
"You see…you see...you stupid minds! STUPID, STUPID!" (sorry, had to say it...but the point is that sometimes a really bad thing can look good if you look with one mindset...but other things are just bad...like the later parts of Raiga)
Edit: new volume cover...and its actually pretty decent:
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Okay guys think back to Volume 7
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so depressingly ironic
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I don't know what's more sad, the fact that the art will probably end up getting more ugly or the fact that Kishi actually thinks his story is good.
But honestly, aren't you more limited using a computer design program rather than using your hands.
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I don't know what's more sad, the fact that the art will probably end up getting more ugly or the fact that Kishi actually thinks his story is good.
But honestly, aren't you more limited using a computer design program rather than using your hands.
Probably depends on who you're asking. For mangaka like Ken Akamatsu, using digital work has allowed him to make world that probably are a tad too overwhelming to take all in. For Kishi…he just uses it to mostly create the equivalent of a coloring book.
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I didn't know that Ken Akamatsu used digital work for his manga, do you know which of his works he used digital for?
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I didn't know that Ken Akamatsu used digital work for his manga, do you know which of his works he used digital for?
I think all of the Negima backgrounds are done with computer, only the characters are drawn by hand.
Like the new cover of Naruto, actually. More like that, Kishi.
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I think all of the Negima backgrounds are done with computer, only the characters are drawn by hand.
Like the new cover of Naruto, actually. More like that, Kishi.
Pretty much: a good chunk of the omake at the back of the Negima volumes are the processes he used on the computer to create these massive BGs he's been using in the series. Sometimes I wonder if Akamatsu spends too much with that stuff and not enough with what made the series good at some points.
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Is it me, or has everyone felt series art style has turned to shit ?. I guess Kishimoto has stopped focusing on the quality of the art and now is leaning more towards story. I guess he cannot manage both art and story. What the hell happen to the details of his characters ?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/393/03/
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I honestly think Kishi's just given up on this manga and has his assistants doing the art and story while he's creating another manga under a new penname.
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I think all of the Negima backgrounds are done with computer, only the characters are drawn by hand.
No, that's not the case. Ken goes around the world once in a while (called "gathering resources") to take pictures and sketch backgrounds that he wants to use in his manga. He then does the thick penciling when he's back at home in Japan.
Most manga-ka who use "digital artwork" basically run up 3D models for their characters and then draw over that, though some also do backgrounds. Gantz an Mad Bull 34's authors are like this. Everyone else follows the more traditional method of just replicating a real place in drawn form, primarily because 3D art is something a lot of people aren't trained in.
Don't get me wrong, Akamatsu has always been a computer nerd, but he's not fluent with computerized artwork.
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Didn't Basilisk have some sort of odd process done to it? Was it computers or something? Because it actually looked pretty nice.
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Back on topic: I was just reading over the "author comments" from this last Jump…and Kishimoto finally apologizes that recently Naruto hasn't been "a manga about ninjas". Personally I say he's probably a few years too late to realize that but its a start.
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They're more like wizards nowadays.
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Really now, the only thing ninja-like about this manga was Zabuza and Haku, I mean they were silent, quick, and so freakin deadly. Haku even dressed like a girl to lure in his victims, which I couldn't appreciate at the time but really do admire it now.
I find it hilarious that Kishi killed off the only real ninjas in the whole manga, after them it was pretty much just really colorful characters going under the guise of ninjas.
Haku and Zabuza were Ninja Scroll worthy, while everyone else belongs in Ninja Cadets.
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Really now, the only thing ninja-like about this manga was Zabuza and Haku, I mean they were silent, quick, and so freakin deadly. Haku even dressed like a girl to lure in his victims, which I couldn't appreciate at the time but really do admire it now.
I find it hilarious that Kishi killed off the only real ninjas in the whole manga, after them it was pretty much just really colorful characters going under the guise of ninjas.
Well it's not like they had what it took to sustain (live long), besides you could make the same argument about One Piece.
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Was watching some Shippuden to catch up to where the anime is. And I have to slowly go through it, can't watch like more than 4-5 episodes in a row before just being pissed off.
Naruto has a decent story behind all the "as mentioned above" wizard fighting. Take the Naruto Orochimaru fight recently. I mean he was constantly puking himself out. Had a super long neck and sword that extended. Naruto was shooting kamehamehas out of his mouth, punching and making craters. How is this stuff any ninja like.
I loved the fights in early naruto when it was as stated Haku/Zakuza. They had their sneaking and hiding. Some of the ninjustu, but it was cool. Using strategy to fight ect. NOw it is just rediculous.
And you can't say it about ONE PIECE. Any wierd stuff is explained. The devil fruits take care of it. A person made of sand/lightning/fire/rubber ect. There at least is an explanation to it all. Or at least manga explanation, not at all real. But so many just random shit in Naruto. Explain how half the shit Orochimaru and some other ninja do. They explain the tree ninjutsu with water and earth, and other stuff is explained.
But the Orochimaru and the hand/mouth guy, and other thigns are just rediculous and are never explained. I mean remember back in early fights the whole long hand gestures they did to summon a water dragon ect. Now it is like "hey i'm super powerful, I just moved my finger so far and wham, a bigger ninjutsu than you ever saw" I have a sword that seals away people forever, and a shield that is inpenetrable. I stole my brothers eye's and became imortal. Come on artists explain why this stuff is
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And you can't say it about ONE PIECE. Any wierd stuff is explained.
UM?
No..
What IS Fokuro? WTF is Moria? How does his neck bend like an Oggie Boogie sock puppet? Why can Miss April Fools do magic paint without a fruit? Why did Loftrians have wings? How did Pearl's suit work. How did Pell survive? Why was the Going Merry possessed?
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So Tobi must be at least 100 years old?
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Explain how half the shit Orochimaru and some other ninja do.
Explain how in OP you have a pirate using Katanas as opposed to a cutlass, or have one guy get his skull badly fractured and not suffer any long time side effects.
But the Orochimaru and the hand/mouth guy, and other thigns are just rediculous and are never explained.
Not all things require explanations.
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Let's keep in mind that these are comic books everyone.
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@Mr.:
Let's keep in mind that these are comic books everyone.
I think Not.
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Couldn't scratch the leaf out.
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@Lobster:
What IS Fokuro? WTF is Moria? How does his neck bend like an Oggie Boogie sock puppet? Why can Miss April Fools do magic paint without a fruit? Why did Loftrians have wings? How did Pearl's suit work. How did Pell survive? Why was the Going Merry possessed?
Um Miss April Fools did have a devil fruit (didn't you hear Vivi say all 0-5 agents have devil fruits.
The Wings will be explained later I'm sure, still part of the mystery and the void century ect.
Moria has just a wierd body, if you want to argue that. There are Giants (15 foot tall people ect.) That just part of the World. You don't bitch about Elfs and Dwarfs in fantasy books, because they are part of the world.
Pell is dead in my book, but whatever he got hurt and survived. Oda just didn't want to kill him.
Pretty sure Franky explained the Going Merry
NO idea how Pearls suit caught fire.
But still those are way better than the normal human beings in Naruto doing the weird ass shit, and body movings. I mean even Choji becoming huge and shit. Orochimaru's neck stretching. The water boy in Sasuke's group (unless he using constant replacement)
I actually am more interested in the Naruto story right now than One Piece, but personally I would wish some guy would just come and explain everything that happens from now till the end of Naruto. I don't need to know about the fights because they just suck imo.
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@Lobster:
I think Not.
http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs26/f/2008/073/3/5/Betrayal_by_behindinfinity.jpg
Hmmm….
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Edit:
Dedera Samaaaaaaa
upps wrong show
Naruto would be better if it had a RENJI type character.
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@Sandai:
Explain how in OP you have a pirate using Katanas as opposed to a cutlass, or have one guy get his skull badly fractured and not suffer any long time side effects.
Um well Zoro wasn't a pirate, he went to a Dojo and all. So since he became a pirate should he drop all his skills and swords and pick up 1 cutlas.
@Sandai:
Not all things require explanations.
Pretty sure it is this site that bitched and moaned constantly about and probably still does. About the whole Kuma and taking out pain and fatigue from Luffy and giving it to Zoro. We do want to know how things work.
Imagine if there was no such thing as Devil Fruits in One Piece. Don't change a thing about the story at all. Keep every person/villian ect. being able to do the same stuff. Now wouldn't that be just gay.
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Imagine if there was no such thing as Devil Fruits in One Piece. Don't change a thing about the story at all. Keep every person/villian ect. being able to do the same stuff. Now wouldn't that be just gay.
Not really, it'd still be good.
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So since he became a pirate should he drop all his skills and swords and pick up 1 cutlas.
He could still use three, If Oda found a way for him to fit Wadou in his mouth and being able to use it with some ease, he could find a way for him to do the same with a cutlass.
Pretty sure it is this site that bitched and moaned constantly about and probably still does. About the whole Kuma and taking out pain and fatigue from Luffy and giving it to Zoro. We do want to know how things work.
People look for anything to bitch about in regards to a manga even if they have to lie or overemphasize to do it.
Imagine if there was no such thing as Devil Fruits in One Piece. Don't change a thing about the story at all. Keep every person/villian ect. being able to do the same stuff. Now wouldn't that be just gay.
Not really.
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So you guys wouldn't find it gay if come characters could turn into Wolf/Giraffes/Leapards. Eat anything and then turn his body into what he eat. Be made of sand, fire, lightning, ice. Being able to stretch, a talking reindeer. A woman who can sprout arms and legs ect. A guy who can steal shadows, someone who can become invisible. And all other types we have seen
And now we have no idea how they can do this, they just can. Name any manga that has all kinds of wierd poeple with powers ect. and don't have any explanation for it. They just are able to do it.
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DF's to me are more of a classification for the powers.
I'd still be fine if the manga didn't have them. Especially if everything else was left intact.
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So you guys wouldn't find it gay if come characters could turn into Wolf/Giraffes/Leapards. Eat anything and then turn his body into what he eat. Be made of sand, fire, lightning, ice. Being able to stretch, a talking reindeer. A woman who can sprout arms and legs ect. A guy who can steal shadows, someone who can become invisible. And all other types we have seen
Some people probably would I wouldn't.
And now we have no idea how they can do this, they just can. Name any manga that has all kinds of wierd poeple with powers ect. and don't have any explanation for it. They just are able to do it.
Tenjho Tenge occasionally explanations are given for things but are usually a bit complex.
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@Sandai:
Some people probably would I wouldn't.
Tenjho Tenge occasionally explanations are given for things but are usually a bit complex.
Well I guess I ain't a fan of just random weird shit happening. I did like Tenjho Tenge for a bit but no more do I read it, just too wierd and I lost interest in it.
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I think its mostly about concept. Kishi writes a series about ninjas but most of their stuff is not really that ninja. Oda writes a series about pirates…and he mostly keeps with the pirate concept.
As for all the stuff out there that can't be explained by Oda logic or Devil Fruits, there probably is a reason out there. For example, I imagine Miss Golden Week (or as the dub called her, "Miss April Fool") probably studied at the "Bob Ross School of Emotional Paints" and thus why she can change moods with just a stroke of a brush. (she is the only non-DF of the main agents anyway...well there is Mr. 4 but he had Lasso)
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@Tokoro:
Kishi writes a series about ninjas but most of their stuff is not really that ninja.
Sure it is.
It's called mystic ninjas. Haven't you ever read mythology?
Oda writes a series about pirates…and he mostly keeps with the pirate concept.
Meh,
I have yet to see Luffy actually "pirate" anything.
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That's way to goddamn funny. I usually read his ramblings but I missed it this week. Thank you for pointing that out.
Wow, even the author admits it. That's too great.
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@Lobster:
Sure it is.
It's called mystic ninjas. Haven't you ever read mythology?
Yeah but ninjas go on missions and keep with stealth even with mystical abilities.
Meh,
I have yet to see Luffy actually "pirate" anything. http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1716/fgodotlm9.gif
He's out to sea, against the World Govenrment, does occasional looting, has a Jolly Roger and grog. What more do you need?
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@Tokoro:
Yeah but ninjas go on missions and keep with stealth even with mystical abilities.
Well, that is what they do. (or atleast try to)
He's out to sea, against the World Govenrment, does occasional looting, has a Jolly Roger and grog. What more do you need?
Him to pirate. And since when does Luffy engage in "looting"?
If you say Sky Piea, then I will bring up the criminal "stealing" free ketchup packets analogy, when the store is offering out free hamburgers. Taking something that's free is being a failure at a thief if anything.
I don't hate how Oda writes the story or anything, but still.. Luffy is no closer to being a pirate (in real life), then Naruto is to being a ninja (in real life).
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@Lobster:
I don't hate how Oda writes the story or anything, but still.. Luffy is no closer to being a pirate (in real life), then Naruto is to being a ninja (in real life).
Well in that case if you want Luffy to be a modern, real-life pirate, he'd probably just go on the streets this weekend and sell bootleg DVDs of Iron Man for five bucks a pop. (originally I was imagining it as "cheap HK anime DVDs" but that's the mafia so that would more fit the Vongola than Luffy)
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Basically One piece owns Naruto on all fronts, it's battles, it's characters, it's potential story (cos post-Akatsuki, what's gonna happen next? Danzo/Kabuto attmept to overthrow Hokage…..Weak.), and even where Naruto gets good marks for 'explaining' how Ukon can share Kiba's body, it's still a load of rubbish, people love One Piece cos it doesn't use pseudo-science, Oda knows he's writing fantasy so he needs not explain the deep false physics of the Shabondy Atmosphere, while Kishicunto lives in denial with his copy-cat brother attempting to fight for their right to talk scientific nonsense.
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Kishicunto