I wouldnt be surprised if that happened, actually.
I remember when Toonami used to be the reason I rushed home after school….boy, have things changed.
But, IIRC, Blue Dragon is only 52 episodes long, right? I wonder what it'll be replaced with...
They're making a sequel to it. So it may be with us for a long while, unless they pull a Zatch Bell on us.
It probably wouldn't kill CN to give One Piece one of Naruto's time slots. Too bad CN would rather continue to suck Naruto's dick than do that though. I'm surprised they still have other shows than Naruto on Toonami. I expected them to try pulling what they did with DBZ by now and turn Toonami into a two hour Naruto block.
What's the point, when that other Naruto episode would probably get better ratings than One Piece?
They're not playing favorites as "They like Naruto more". They're playing favorites as "Naruto gets more ratings"… And that's why I doubt that'd happen anytime soon. Enough with the sucking dick mentality. They're a tv station. They gotta do what they gotta do. And I've already expressed if this was the other way around, you wouldn't find it wrong at all.
They'd most likely just make One Piece tail Naruto so that run over ratings run into it. It seemed like it worked good for awhile... But I guess it wasn't enough.
Just sucks that 4Kids episodes lasted a lot longer on tv... But, whatever...
And, also, GaryPotter.... Naruto? It was pretty much premiered the same way One Piece was and well... You know how big (though not DBZ big) that's become.
I'm not sure I want to be associated with a group of people that are so thick-headed that they can't even bother to look online to figure out what the original is like.
This is exactly the attitude that appauls me.
They're the mopes who you might hear say this.
Yeah I know I can watch the Japanese version on my computer but I'd rather watch an english dub because.
In some instances they're are those people out there who are completely oblivious to the locations of the Fansubs or Raws in even rarer cases there are those who don't actually know the concept of Fansubs or Raws.
It's funny, the Naruto fanbase actually contributed in turning me off the series.
That's a new spin.
this better not end up like DBZ did at one point
Where it took like 2 to 3 years before Funimation got around to dubbing
the rest of the Freiza saga?
You know what the really sad part about this whole thing is? If DBZ had premiered on CN they way that they are now, it would have been a complete failure. DBZ succeed because it got a great weekday afternoon time slot, and because it was actually advertised.
That kind of seems a bit false when you look at Naruto, but then again I can't say that Naruto is or has pulled in more/same numbers on it's weekend
scheldue than DBZ did on a weekday scheldue
I expected them to try pulling what they did with DBZ by now and turn Toonami into a two hour Naruto block.
When did that ever happen?
I wonder what would happen if they put One Piece between 2 episodes of Naruto?
Ugh, and this thread really need to lay off these "oh well, I give up, One Piece is doomed" posts.
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I wonder what would happen if they put One Piece between 2 episodes of Naruto?
That would kind of be cruel
Ugh, and this thread really need to lay off these "oh well, I give up, One Piece is doomed" posts.
That's nothing new.
@Sandai:
That kind of seems a bit false when you look at Naruto, but then again I can't say that Naruto is or has pulled in more/same numbers on it's weekend schedule than DBZ did on a weekday schedule
Whether or not that is true isn't relevant. You have to look at the fundamentals here. That is simply that a show has a far better chance to gain an audience when it is shown at a more accessible time and is shown with more frequency. Look at Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh, and Power Rangers. If they had not been shown in the afternoon they would have gone nowhere. Besides, the ratings system's numbers are flawed to begin with, so they can be safely discarded.
@Sandai:
When did that ever happen?
For a time in early 2001, weekday Toonami consisted of 3 DBZ reruns and Gundam Wing.
I'm not sure I want to be associated with a group of people that are so thick-headed that they can't even bother to look online to figure out what the original is like.
This is exactly the attitude that appauls me.
"OP should be given a chance and everyone would love it."
No, no they wouldn't. OP isn't for everyone. I for one am glad finicky dumbfucks like that avoid it.
Well you also got to factor in the elementary/middle school students who either:
A) Dont know about fansubs
B) Cant read very well and/or fast
C) (Like Sandai said) Dont like the Japanese voices (everyone is entitled to an opinion)
and
D) All of the above
The average 8-13 year old usually fits into one of those categories.
To be honest, Im sure they make up a large percent of the fanbase as well, so without them, any series is bound to suffer.
I understand where you're coming from, though. Naruto's fanbase is generally full of very ignorant people (I can say that, considering Im a Naruto fan as well, and have interacted with a lot of them), but they are loyal people as well, and almost never miss a beat when it comes to buying merchandise.
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I understand where you're coming from, though. Naruto's fanbase is generally full of very ignorant people (I can say that, considering Im a Naruto fan as well, and have interacted with a lot of them)
Where any anime or manga series is concerned you're bound to get ignorant
people, people who love the series & people who hate it.
but they are loyal people as well, and almost never miss a beat when it comes to buying merchandise.
Aren't One Piece fans the same?
@Sandai:
Where any anime or manga series is concerned you're bound to get ignorant
people.
Agreed.
@Sandai:
Aren't One Piece fans the same?
Absolutely. There just isnt as much of us, which is unfortunate.
I guess it seems like there are more ignorant Naruto fans because there are more Naruto fans period.
Usually the ignorant ones are the ones who shell out the most cash for things, hence why we have so much Naruto merchandise down here.
They even got a game that was specifically made for America, where they hired the Japanese VA's to do voice overs so you have the option to hear it in Japanese as well. Naruto is kind of like the successor to DBZ in America.
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Naruto is kind of like the successor to DBZ in America.
That has been obvious from the get go so its not very surprising.
And Bleach doesn't seem to be too far behind either.
That has been obvious from the get go so its not very surprising.
And Bleach doesn't seem to be too far behind either.
Yeah, not surprising, just restating it.
If Bleach were aired in Toonami it'd probably be even twice as popular as it is now (but, maybe not, because they'd have to make some serious edits, and the feel of the show would probably be lost).
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Yeah, best to leave it at adult swim.
If Bleach were aired in Toonami it'd probably be even twice as popular as it is now (but, maybe not, because they'd have to make some serious edits, and the feel of the show would probably be lost).
Not really look at Yu Yu it was okay on Toonami aside from some BS edits.
@Sandai:
Not really look at Yu Yu it was okay on Toonami aside from some BS edits.
Yeah, I think they did Yu Yu Hakusho justice, when it was on Cartoon Network's anime block (on Saturday nights, when Toonami used to be one weekdays).
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Eventhough I did get kind of used to YuYu being on Toonami I still wish they'd bring it back to Adult Swim.
^Yeah, me too. I've always watched it on there every Saturday back at 2001 along with Outlaw star, Tenchi, Cowboy bebop, etc.
Aww heck, you know what I mean! ^_^
I haven't hear anyone mention anything about FUNI's industry panel today and the first One Piece episodes premiered. Did everone forget or something?
No anime series is for everyone, but that doesn't stop Naruto, Bleach, DBZ, etc.
Um….there are people that love anime and hate them. There are people that love anime and are apathetic towards them. There are people that fucking hate anime.
What is with OP fans and their disgusting sad-as-shit emo inferiority-fucking-complex!?
"Naruto is popular! That's unfair!"
"Bleach is popular! That's unfair!"
"All we are saying is give One Piece a chance!"
"It should have the right to be popular like those popular series just because we love it!"
I'm not into conspiracy theories, but it's clear CN never really cared about One Piece.
Cartoon Network doesn't care about cartoons.
Cartoon Network doesn't care about anime.
Cartoon Network doesn't care about their programming schedule.
Cartoon Network doesn't even care about ratings.
What Cartoon Network cares about is positive responses from advertising clients and renewal of contracts.
The overwhelming majority of television exists, believe it or not, solely for the two and a half minutes of ads between that show they happen to air.
Sure, if they can get rights to tie-products, that's great. It still doesn't help their show.
Hey folks guess what? Did you know you can say 'shit' on any television network? All that has to happen is for SPONSORS to want their name to be associated with a program that would happen to do such a thing. Beyond the writers, actors, animators, etc. 90% of television relies solely on who wants to pay a network to make a show.
CN doesn't have it out for OP. So stop your fucking juvenile and sophomoric tirades. They exist to bring you ads and if for some reason OP doesn't get responses REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WATCH IT then the sponsors drop out. And what sponsor wants sloppy seconds?
God! You guys think it's so simple. The world of big business according to peewees.
Edit:
"Why do you think so Greg?"
Because I used to be a journalist for an anime magazine. I've attended closed door Cartoon Network press conferences. I met the then President of CN. I listened for an hour straight as they described shows in 15 seconds or less and then talked about how it could be marketed and to whom. There isn't someone at the top going, "Golly! I sure do love anime!" There's someone going, "How can we market this program to the target audience at the appropriate time and what sponsors would best suit this timeslot for said audience?"
It's bleak. It's dark. It's called life.
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How about you take your little baboon pic and stuff it, because I'm perfectly aware about how the business world works.
It just blows, is all. But like I said, I'm sure you don't care.
Everything was all for nothing
CN doesn't have it out for OP. So stop your fucking juvenile and sophomoric tirades. They exist to bring you ads and if for some reason OP doesn't get responses REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WATCH IT then the sponsors drop out. And what sponsor wants sloppy seconds?
I'm glad you posted this because you're the first person to make sense out of the situation. Instead of all the speculation, you've gone straight to the point. It could be the reason OP was canceled. If people didn't want to advertise during it, it's not going to stay on the air.
BUT
I have to say I do agree with RomanMack as well. It does blow 
How about you take your little baboon pic and stuff it, because I'm perfectly aware about how the business world works.
Oh it's not mine, I found it on Google. You may send your complaint to www.justseeds.org
And from the way the conversations here seem to have been going it would seem quite the contrary.
Well, since apparently everyone forgot that FUNI had a panel today and One Piece episodes premiered today, I'll post this:
One Piece mention:
Okay, they DID show the first official cover art for a One Piece DVD, which is custom-done for FUNi’s release. I didn’t catch a shot of it but I’ll try and snap one afterwards (off Sheehan’s computer directly if I must!).
Time for the Q&A! The One Piece boxes are $49.95. It was removed from Cartoon Network but they’re hoping that it will return, but it has to do with Toei and Cartoon Network; FUNi just distros the DVDs. Still no shows from Geneon (trust me, you’ll know when they do). Apparently the slowness on Geneon re-licensing is all the fighting over ‘em!
Now may we please discuss and not argue anymore?! I mean, this topic is One Piece news, not arguing about why One Piece is not on CN!!!
Also, did anyone go and have any info? like how the first episodes were?
What's the point, when that other Naruto episode would probably get better ratings than One Piece?
They're not playing favorites as "They like Naruto more". They're playing favorites as "Naruto gets more ratings"… And that's why I doubt that'd happen anytime soon. Enough with the sucking dick mentality. They're a tv station. They gotta do what they gotta do. And I've already expressed if this was the other way around, you wouldn't find it wrong at all.
They'd most likely just make One Piece tail Naruto so that run over ratings run into it. It seemed like it worked good for awhile... But I guess it wasn't enough.
Just sucks that 4Kids episodes lasted a lot longer on tv... But, whatever...
And, also, GaryPotter.... Naruto? It was pretty much premiered the same way One Piece was and well... You know how big (though not DBZ big) that's become.
Well the only reason people think it is favortism is because Toonami is giving Naruto the DBZ treatment, and lets face it there was enough favortism back then to kick every other show off Toonami just because it wasn't getting the ratings DBZ was. That's when Toonami became the DBZ block.
Toonami only seems to focus on their highest rating show and couldn't give a rats ass about the others. To me that is favortism, and Naruto just happened to be the new fad on the block. Screw the fact that Toonami could profit off of One Piece and other series too. Why bother with those when they've pretty much got their new DBZ?
If Toonami cared about One Piece or any other series other than Naruto at this point. They would try to work those series into the schedule instead of either throwing them out completely or just stuffing them up on Jetstream.
@Slice-n-dice:
Well, since apparently everyone forgot that FUNI had a panel today and One Piece episodes premiered today, I'll post this:
I noticed this in that picture of the DVD cover.
"The only cuts in this relea– from Zorro's sword..."
Did you see what they said for that?
Well, I thought maybe you guys would like to take a break from arguing about the same stuff over and over again to hear that Kirbopher called me earlier and said he found out two new voice actors for the series while at the Con.
Helmeppo: Troy Baker
Koby: Leah Clark
Hey, the DVDs have the marathon feature from the DBZ sets. Excellent!
Cool news about Helmeppo and Koby's VAs too.
MARATHON PLAY?!
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Good to see some positivity in this thread, but I wouldn't worry about the "Zorro" typo. Powerpoint a good spellcheck does not make.
@LC:
MARATHON PLAY?!
faints
Good to see some positivity in this thread, but I wouldn't worry about the "Zorro" typo. Powerpoint a good spellcheck does not make.
I was wondering what they meant by "the only cuts for this release" part.
But yeah, Huzzah for marathon mode.
Nice, Nice Marathon Play. That is a very nice feature on the DBZ Season sets, and it's cool that they going to put it on the One Piece sets.
Nice, Nice Marathon Play. That is a very nice feature on the DBZ Season sets, and it's cool that they going to put it on the One Piece sets.
Pretty cool indeed.
Well, Funi doesnt seem worried (even though they seem about as clueless as we are), so I wont sweat it for now.
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@Tommy:
I noticed this in that picture of the DVD cover.
"The only cuts in this relea– from Zorro's sword..."
Did you see what they said for that?
Haha
I wasn't there, but I bet it said something like "The only cuts on this release are the ones from Zoro's swords."
So, the good news we can gather right now:
Did anyone here go to the episode screenings? How were they? any clips (doubt it)??
What's Marathon Play?
Pretty cool indeed.
Well, Funi doesnt seem worried (even though they seem about as clueless as we are), so I wont sweat it for now.
Same here, I'm not going to worried about it as well. Since I have a feeling it will be back sooner or later.
@Sandai:
What's Marathon Play?
Its like on a family guy DVD, all the eps play in order without you having to keep going to the main menu and putting them on.
@mdmartin101:
Its like on a family guy DVD, all the eps play in order without you having to keep going to the main menu and putting them on.
Also, it skips over the openings, recaps and endings to give you a near constant presentation.
If your all mad at Cartoon Network, you can all watch my rant.
@Sandai:
What's Marathon Play?
I believe it lets you go from one episode, straight into the next. No need to press "Skip" or watch the opening again, or anything like that. I think.
Same here, I'm not going to worried about it as well. Since I have a feeling it will be back sooner or later.
Exactly, no use in sweating over it, it wont change anything. I believe it'll be back sooner or later as well.
http://viscaria3.blogspot.com/. Best thing since Phoenix Wright!!
So basically it's like watching an overextended movie without any breaks.
Kind figured it was something like that.
Oh Dear me, that Zorro comment is not gonna rest in peace.
Well, I've always had a theory regarding what was going on with One Piece and Cartoon Network, and it looks like it might be true. Apparently it's Toei's fault as to why no additional episodes are on air.
Basically, I theorized that FUNimation is actually sending the episodes to Toei Animation, and Toei then sends the episodes to Cartoon Network. I've actually wondered about this for awhile, since it's been questionable as to how CartoonNetwork got the last set of episodes, given 4Kids lost their license. It seems that Toei is the middle man on the episodes being on air. So while the episodes are still being sent, Toei is probably holding back the episodes for some reason. That, or the episodes are being sent in batches.(4Kids episodes and FUNimation episodes could've been part of this particular batch.)
So if this is true, if like last time, it may go off air, then reappear on the schedule later on in the year, like last time.
I want to know what it means by "The only cuts in this release" because we were promised Uncut DVDs. If there are edits in this I'm not going to be happy.
God I'm such a fucking moron! It's a joke.. I get jokes. Cuts… swords, har har.
In other news:
I'm glad we finally have an answer on what happened to OP on CN.
Ho, ho ho! What's this?
The only cuts in this release
what a witty pun
I want to know what it means by "The only cuts in this release" because we were promised Uncut DVDs. If there are edits in this I'm not going to be happy.
God I'm such a fucking moron! It's a joke.. I get jokes. Cuts… swords, har har.
In other news:
I'm glad we finally have an answer on what happened to OP on CN.
Something about the price Funi said.
no I get it, it's a joke… swords, cuts... jokes.. I get jokes.
God, I love Eneru's voice even more now. xD
