We have been introduced to three admirals: blue pheasant, red dog, and yellow monkey. We have seen blue pheasant, which is Aokiji. He has the power of Hie Hie Fruit–ice. What do you think the other two has? I was thinking that Aokiji is the BLUE pheasant, so he has ice, considering ice is associated with blue. I thought that red dog will be fire and yellow monkey will be electric, but those are taken… What powers do think the other two admirals have?
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Who's to say the other two will even have DF abilities?
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Originally posted by Battle Franky@May 9 2005, 07:06 PM
Who's to say the other two will even have DF abilities?
[snapback]45187[/snapback]Well, if they don't have, what might their powers be? Swordman? Sharp shooter? Incredible strength?
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i guess ..red dog are …Lava vocano magmar or something like that ... yellow monkey ... i don't know ...
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It would be interesting if Yellow Monkey was a literal nickname suggesting the use of a Zoan type devil fruit.
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Originally posted by neodragzero@May 9 2005, 04:54 PM
It would be interesting if Yellow Monkey was a literal nickname suggesting the use of a Zoan type devil fruit.
[snapback]45224[/snapback]just what i was going to say. Monkey Monkey fruit. they should fight him in the forest :P
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Could be one of each type of fruit : one zoan, one logia and one paramecia.
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grand admirals = powerful
as wad robin said about the logia fruit = hard to own unless you have a natural enemy such as lightning against rubber or fire against smoke
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Logias are boring. I wish -this is from the deep corner of my soul- that they wouldn't have those. Anything else please. Monkey isn't that bad idea but there already walking and talking human monkeys in the story. Anything bizarre is good.
Could be one of each type of fruit : one zoan, one logia and one paramecia.
I will raise my voice for this too.
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Logias would seem bad on the surface…..but Oda does such fun things with them.
A monkey monkey fruit.....what would be the point? Humans are close enough...
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lol but His name is yellow monkey so it would be cool to have a monkey fruit. nobody calls you swordman and you dont use a sword, Do you understand what i mean
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Originally posted by Thedevil@May 9 2005, 07:52 PM
lol but His name is yellow monkey so it would be cool to have a monkey fruit. nobody calls you swordman and you dont use a sword, Do you understand what i mean
[snapback]45393[/snapback]Erm, Aokiji doesn´t turn into a pheasant, now does he?
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Monkey….errr....smells like Sayiajin. <.< maybe some kind of gift for Toriyama XD if they have a DF, I'll stick with someones theory - one paramecia, one logia, one zoan....
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Originally posted by Ivotas+May 9 2005, 09:59 PM–>QUOTE(Ivotas @ May 9 2005, 09:59 PM)
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Could be the same you know…All would be LOGIA...
Ice,Fire and thunder...Dont say there are'nt any peeps with only one Devil Fruit...There were...Just look at AP devil fruit guide...(Or am I wrong) -
Logia type has alot of type ..not only natural power ..natural power are like ..Wind,Ground,Fire,Water,Thunder,Ice …but Smoke doesn't right? so smoker has a Logia DF that is smoke ,why there isn't any other more Logia type DF ,there are alot .. just like Sand from crocodile, there might be some other logia type fruit..who knows?
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Just think of other elements…With yellow and red...Right?
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but they should have the basic fire,thunder, ice. i think thats something rushed they should put a white monkey and a green something. for plants and wind
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or Oda simply wanted to make something new and fresh instead of the tired old fire,ice,thunder thing,
i sure hope that those two wont have Logia powers i want to see an incredibly strong main opponent that doesnt rely on a logia power.
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it would be cool to see one of them as a swordman so zoro can take him down.
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maybe the yellow monkey dude has the power of the pee pee fruit or something. i wouldn't be shocked if there are more than 1 of the same fruit out there and the other two have lighting and fire powers (but that would be kinda boring imo). idk, maybe they don't have the powers and are just really powerful like wolfwood suggested.
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Probablly the other one would have some kind of really hard metal that doesnt exist in the real world…That's colored yellow...
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if that happens, zoro can own mihawk anytime anywhere ^^ might be true, the admirals to be placed in the follow categories.
1:DF
2:Sanji's leg kicks( another kewl leg fight)
3.Swordsman(doubt so since mihawk seem the be the strongest swordsman around)
4:Marksman?(ussop could own him if he remain in the straw hats) -
You forgot Girl to Girl battle…
ANd Zoanish type Battle -
Originally posted by thelousy@May 11 2005, 11:27 AM
if that happens, zoro can own mihawk anytime anywhere ^^ might be true, the admirals to be placed in the follow categories.
[snapback]46706[/snapback]Not necessarily. Mihawk is the world´s strongest swordsman. This doesn´t mean that all the other´s are weaklings. Wherever there´s a # 1 there must be a # 2. So just in case that one of the Supreme Admirals is the second strongest swordsman in the world, it would mean that Zoro would own Mihawk anytime anywhere. He would just have made a huge step towards Mihawks level. ;)
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I hope that these two admirals don't have any Logia power, and hopefully no DF power at all.. I don't think you should depend on you DF power alone like some do.. Ace is a good example of a well balanced fighter! He doesn't depend on his DF and he still kicks ass..
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_Originally posted by PortgasDeAycee+May 11 2005, 06:31 PM–>QUOTE(PortgasDeAycee @ May 11 2005, 06:31 PM)You forgot Girl to Girl battle...
ANd Zoanish type Battle
[snapback]46710[/snapback]Zoanish battle will come under DF wouldn't it :blink:
Originally posted by Ivotas@May 11 2005, 06:38 PM
**> Originally posted by thelousy@May 11 2005, 11:27 AMif that happens, zoro can own mihawk anytime anywhere ^^ might be true, the admirals to be placed in the follow categories.
[snapback]46706[/snapback]Not necessarily. Mihawk is the world´s strongest swordsman. This doesn´t mean that all the other´s are weaklings. Wherever there´s a # 1 there must be a # 2. So just in case that one of the Supreme Admirals is the second strongest swordsman in the world, it would mean that Zoro would own Mihawk anytime anywhere. He would just have made a huge step towards Mihawks level. ;)
[snapback]46712[/snapback]**true, but if its that way, zoro would own swordman in the grand line? that wouldn't be a good evolution of his story at all.pain and agony is his road to power remember? he nearly got owned by Mr.1 but end up slicing him with one katana
@May 11 2005, 08:15 PM
I hope that these two admirals don't have any Logia power, and hopefully no DF power at all.. I don't think you should depend on you DF power alone like some do.. Ace is a good example of a well balanced fighter! He doesn't depend on his DF and he still kicks ass..
[snapback]46784[/snapback]_Maybe based on your ideas, the 2 admirals could have strengths of Gol. D . Rogers or even Whitebeard himself! if i'm not wrong, none of them has DF ability
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Originally posted by thelousy+May 11 2005, 01:45 PM–>QUOTE(thelousy @ May 11 2005, 01:45 PM) _> Originally posted by Ivotas@May 11 2005, 06:38 PM
**if that happens, zoro can own mihawk anytime anywhere ^^ might be true, the admirals to be placed in the follow categories.
[snapback]46706[/snapback]Not necessarily. Mihawk is the world´s strongest swordsman. This doesn´t mean that all the other´s are weaklings. Wherever there´s a # 1 there must be a # 2. So just in case that one of the Supreme Admirals is the second strongest swordsman in the world, it would mean that Zoro would own Mihawk anytime anywhere. He would just have made a huge step towards Mihawks level. ;)
[snapback]46712[/snapback]**true, but if its that way, zoro would own swordman in the grand line? that wouldn't be a good evolution of his story at all.pain and agony is his road to power remember? he nearly got owned by Mr.1 but end up slicing him with one katana
[snapback]46800[/snapback]I really have problems to understand what you´re trying to say here. :huh:_
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that would be interesting if zoro becomes number 2 then fights mihawkthen loses again then trains until he can beat him. atleast then he would now he surpased alot of guys and only one more to go. i think zoro is going to get new swords
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sorry for my bad grammer, i was thinking bout trigonometry, i was saying that "true, but if its that way, zoro would own swordman in the grand line? that wouldn't be a good evolution of his story at all.pain and agony is his road to power remember? he nearly got owned by Mr.1 but end up slicing him with one katana"
i meant that, if the an admiral is indeed a swordsman, if zoro owns that fella. he would own every other swordsman in the grand line since the admiral has to be 2nd strongest behind mihawk. if that's the case, the story would end quick since he is so near defeating mihawk and noone in the grand line would pose a threat to him. Its pain and agony which teaches him new techniques like for example Mr1 nearly pwning his butt but he cut Mr1 like a can opener. It would be so much better to see zoro getting half pwned by other stronger swordsman before eventually meeting mihawk. If u still dun understand, pls ignore this post -_-"
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acctualy that made perfect sense :)
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Originally posted by wolfwood@May 11 2005, 06:21 PM
acctualy that made perfect sense :)
[snapback]46901[/snapback]what he said plus that woul be muh better. :) but there should be enemies that zoro could take without geting beaten up.
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Originally posted by thelousy@May 11 2005, 03:56 PM
**sorry for my bad grammer, i was thinking bout trigonometry, i was saying that "true, but if its that way, zoro would own swordman in the grand line? that wouldn't be a good evolution of his story at all.pain and agony is his road to power remember? he nearly got owned by Mr.1 but end up slicing him with one katana"i meant that, if the an admiral is indeed a swordsman, if zoro owns that fella. he would own every other swordsman in the grand line since the admiral has to be 2nd strongest behind mihawk. if that's the case, the story would end quick since he is so near defeating mihawk and noone in the grand line would pose a threat to him. Its pain and agony which teaches him new techniques like for example Mr1 nearly pwning his butt but he cut Mr1 like a can opener. It would be so much better to see zoro getting half pwned by other stronger swordsman before eventually meeting mihawk. If u still dun understand, pls ignore this post -_-"
[snapback]46889[/snapback]**Ah ok now I get it. But there´s one little flaw in your logic. Who ever said that beating the second strongest swordsman in the world would happen anytime soon? So far we´ve just seen Aokiji. The other two guys where only mentioned and appeared as silhoutes (sp?). So it might be a lot of story arcs until Zoro gets the opportunity to beat the # 2 in the world. What you call the way of pain and agony would still work if Zoro beats this guy in one of the final arcs. ;)
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Maybe those other guys dont have a DF, maybe their clothes are colored yellow and red…Though I doubt that since MArines are actuallt all white...
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well the colors might have to do with their abilities…i dunno wad but i dun think its a fashion statement
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I like the idea of 1 logia, 1 zoan, and 1 paramecia.
maybe Akainu will have a zoan, inu inu no mi, model, something like a wolf or something strong…
for the paramecia user... no idea... but i'm sure oda will surprise us if this is so.
if they don't have any DF powers, i think it will be difficult to give them comparible powers to Aokiji, this guy just screams "MEGA MONSTER" all over, at least that's my perception of him :P
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then it would be pretty boring seriously, if the whole one piece revolving around the DF. It will lose its shine sooner or later
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its true what your saying but if the guy fights with a katana then it would be cool to see zoro fight him but would that happen i dont think so. and what a sharpshooter that ussop would defeat never gonna happen. if kuro appeared again he can take on ussop anytime any place. so i have to say they must or should have devil fruit power.
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well thats an entirly diffrent thing just cause he cant defeat kuro doesnt mean that he couldnt deal with a fellow sniper,
in a sniper fight usopp would have a legitime chance of winning since his aim is fucking incredibel.
BTW it would suck so increbly much if it turned out that all three rely on DF powers.
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im not saying they rely on devil fruit power. what harm will it have if the yellow monkey has the devil fruit power of a monkey. and fights with his bare hand but when turns into a monkey he becomes stronger faster of something. as for ussop your telling me he can defeat any sharpshooter even if he is one of the major aspects of the grand line??
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who knows all im saying in a fight betwenn sharpshooters usopp would have a chance of winning since it would come down to who is a better marksman.
and yes it would still suck why cant there just be a guy who is freakishly strong without a DF is that to much to ask :P
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Nope you got Krieg :P (im going to be hit after saying that)
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Well Kuro and Arlong didn´t have DF power either. Same goes for Shanks. And I´m still convinced that Whitebeard won´t have a DF power himself.
As far as Usopp beating Kuro is concerned. I´m pretty sure that he could beat him now if he was in a situation where everyone counts on his victory. I mean Usopp defeated Chew and later on the Mr. 4 couple with Choppers help. OK he did get a beating there but he was taking more then he was giving and he still emerged victorious. That´s because of the strong will every Strawhat has.
And even if he´s still a coward and he still fights by his own style, he did grow stronger by experience. I´m pretty sure that he could take on Kuro now if his or one of his nakama´s life would depend on it. After all Kuro is just a weakling pirate compared to what guys the Strawhats have already met on the Grand Line
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since ussop has a lots of dials now, i'm sure he'll invent something that will help him close combat which will help him alot. Example: The Ussop Hammer Impact Edition! With a hit, watch your opponent go into the ground!
anyway back to the topic, i'll not support the series if all the admirals all have DF powers even thought it would be cool. It's like the whole series seem to depend on the DF when it comes to the great marine people.
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Usopp Hammer Impact Edition? Hmm, I like that. :)
As far as the other two SA´s having DF power is concerned. Well I don´t care either way because I´m sure they´ll be cool no matter whether they have or don´t have any DF power.
Not supporting the series just because those two would have one is a little bit hard a choice to make.
Besides I do believe that the DF´s are much more important part of the OP mythos then we have found out yet. I´m even sure that the origin of the Devil Fruits along with the true history have something to do with the One Piece treasure itself. Remember when Captain Morgan said that the secret of the DF´s supposedly hidden in the Grand Line? Now Oda wouldn´t have let him say this if he wouldn´t have something in mind about it. And so far we are pretty far away from an origin for them so I guess they will be an important part of the mythos if the origin is still kept a secret. ;) -
Originally posted by thelousy@May 14 2005, 04:37 PM
**since ussop has a lots of dials now, i'm sure he'll invent something that will help him close combat which will help him alot. Example: The Ussop Hammer Impact Edition! With a hit, watch your opponent go into the ground!anyway back to the topic, i'll not support the series if all the admirals all have DF powers even thought it would be cool. It's like the whole series seem to depend on the DF when it comes to the great marine people.
[snapback]48893[/snapback]**well isnt the devil fruit something cursed and its mystery lies in the grand line. then its natural that people in the grand line have these
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true, maybe the one piece is actually the DF to rule them all? or maybe the true history of the world. I don't know but still i dun like all 3 admirals having DF powers. I would rather see some katana fights or leg fights.
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katana ok but legs not cool. i mean he fights people with every kind of weapon so legs alone wont be enough.
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I still feel that Red Dog will be a magma user, with an immense destructive potential, in contrast to Aokiji's preservation-power. And with Oda's imagination and art style, you know it'd rock.
Still I've considered the possibilty, that Red Dog and Yellow Monkey are not human. I mean, weve seen Giants, Gyojin, The dirt boss and the forest boss.
I'm basing this on the fact, that in OP every enemy has a fighting style based on:
A specific weapon/technology (Ex: Dials, Clima Tact)
A Df Power
Brute strenght/martial arts (Sanji, Cp9)
Or species-specific abilities (gyojin, Big Bun)And since I think the last option is under-represented, I feel the admirals-or perhaps Schichibukai (bartholomew Bear anyone?) will surprise us.
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No I dont think so…
The MArines never had an inhuman Admiral.
What makes you think that the 2 others are not human?