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Super Smash Bros Brawl ptII
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goddamn these people piss me off sometimes
@Smashboards:
This is Montage's list for Stage bans petition in competitive play.
I'll start with the new stages, for singles:First, Mushroomy Kingdom.
It's a shame really, since the level is sweet as hell. But if you have someone with a rapid nuetral combo, you can trap them against a wall while the stage moves. The Stage's side will kill them and not you, resulting n a complete unfair advantage in the cast.Second, Rapid Falls (I think that's the name).
It's One of the two new DK stages. For those unknowing, it plays like icicle mountain. A lot of you won't know icicle mountain, because no one EVER PLAYS IT EVER OH GOD.Next, Pokemon Stadium 2.
Again, shame. Diddy's bananas on the conveyor belts will ko people. The windmill gravity reduction will allow certain characters to fly forever, stalling a minute at a time. This is a slow game, and as of now, the game would fall into sudden death too **** much.Spear Pillar.
Constantly, without warning, the mad flips left-right and cause your directions to be backwards. Same with up and down, forcing you to play up and down. It's also likely someone could use the circular stage to camp the 7 minutes. In my tournaments, I'll call shenanigans, and force them to stop, but major tourns won't.The New F-Zero Stage.
While it looks, and plays exactly like Mute City, the cars are faster, and KO most characters at 80% The cars themselves appear just as much as Mute city. Characters with flight can avoid the cars, most of the time, while most other characters will have to dodge. That dodging will leave you open to punishment. Clear unfair advantage.WarioWare.
The minigames themselves can take a stock if you mess up. Fun as hell, but not serious.Donkey Kong Arcade.
You can't fall below the top platform. This allows people below to camp slightly and keep them at bay. There's fire on the stage that can do up to 40dmg is your caught correctly. Again, it's not a serious stage, it's fun!FlatZone2:
It's just too small. The game turns from 5-6 minutes to 2-3. the new things that fall from the stage to WAY too much knockback. Basically, it's the first one, with more lame added.New Pork City:
It's a camp fest. You couldn't possibly hope to finish a match. It's big, and annoying. Characters without flying are all but screwed. It's swinging platforms, and high ledges are a nightmare for Bowser and Wario, while DeDeDe and Toon Link will be all over the plave shooting projectiles.Mario Bros. Arcade:
It's played like the original Mario Bros. For those of you who haven't played it, it's the minigame that was in Super Mario Bros. 3. If you haven't played that you have three options. One, bust out/buy a nintendo and the game, and play it. Two, Virtual Console. Three, Quit gaming. ANYWAY… It's hard to fully explain this ban without you playing it. The The map is made into corridor-ish lanes, while much too powerful enemies walk the stage, aiming to kill. Pit's Side B or shield can camp and entire corridor, as well as Falco's Laser spam. All in all, it's the least playable stage in the game, for a competitive nature.Elektroplankton:
The stage is made of oddly colored leaves that are not connected. It's been seen that sometime a tether recovery will get confused between the leaves and you'll die. Kind of the way auto aim in games like CoD of Halo will force you to shoot between two people. bad news.Shadow Moses Island: (MGS)
The walls on the side can be used to camp out the time limit. If you trap someone with a rapid natural against the wall, you can keep them there (Pikachu's rapid A) for the entire Match. DI, Airdodging, and everything else has been tried for escaping.Singles, DX stages. (past stages):
Hyrule Temple:
Same old crap. Running away for 7 minutes. The tried and true cowards way to first place. Still banned.Big Blue:
Does this need explination? /sighOnett:
See: Shadow Moses IslandCornaria. (/cry)
See: Onett. v_vTeams Only Bans:
Norfair.
At one point, you'll have to take shelter under a small, metroid-esque tenty thing. You have to fight to keep people out, in hopes to gain a stock advantage. In teams, there's not enough room for two people to be under, and one attack to keep the others out. You'll kill your teammates much too much. IMO it's a fair singles stage, because that lava wave will only happen every 3-4minutes.
Stages that were banned in Melee that should be allowed:Yoshi's Island (pipes):
Until a rapid shine-like approach is found, I'd say it's cool to release this ban. While the charatcers are a bit bigger, the stage feels more accessible.Stages still in Discussion:
Pokemon Stadium.
The Walls in the Construction, and burning areas will provide the same crappy rapid A stalling. This will force players to ban this constantly, so I feel this should have a perma ban. Not everyone agreesThe Summit: The New Ice Climber stage:
The bottom area doesn't have ledges. Characters with tether only recovery (Ivysaur, ZSS, Olimar) lose their recovery. Also has a wall.Thanks for reading, please discuss.
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Does this need explination? /sigh
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Always wondered why people care about how other people play the game.
YOUR WAY IS WRONG BUT MINE IS RIGHT
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You'd think that actual skill would render most of these whines about stages obsolete
but NOPE
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Hahaha, Luigi's second taunt is amazing, and I also like Lucario's goofy karate posing.
I keep meaning to ask this, did any of you guys used the control stick to jump in Melee?
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I think the only time these stage banning upset me was when people on another board basically said "The WarioWare stage was made by Nintendo for the kiddies!".
I've always dislike how professional players of frankly games that are basically for everyone act as if playing professionaly makes the game more mature. Alot of Pokemon fans do this as well.
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@Mr.:
Hahaha, Luigi's second taunt is amazing, and I also like Lucario's goofy karate posing.
I keep meaning to ask this, did any of you guys used the control stick to jump in Melee?
I did
I'm going to try to start using buttons though.
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I used the buttons after I found out that you get no distance with the stick.
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@Mr.:
I keep meaning to ask this, did any of you guys used the control stick to jump in Melee?
for the longest time i thought that the control stick was the normal way to do it
i still use it though, as i always have
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I used the stick and never noticed any sort of difference, maybe that's part of why I was terrible.
Anyone who tries to make any video game "mature" is probably delusional.
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I used the stick when I first started playing the original game, but switched to using the buttons almost immediately.
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I think the only time I've used the control stick for jumping was by accident, actually.
@Cyringohn:
YOUR WAY IS WRONG BUT MINE IS RIGHT
Well it is.
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I hope to GOD that the information there is true.
I REALLY want a Duster AT.
I'm pretty sure a Duster Assist Trophy was already confirmed to be in the game. It was in one of the older videos we got before the big leaks started to happen.
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Stick jumping is awful. Don't know how anybody can do that shit.
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I don't know how anyone can use the buttons. It feels akward as hell for me.
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I don't know how anyone can use the buttons. It feels akward as hell for me.
Uh…
Using the buttons to jump is a lot more precise and accurate, methinks.
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The shitty positioning of the jump buttons kind of steered me away from using them.
And I'm using to using the joystick to jump in several other fighters.
But liek I said, I'm trying to shift to buttons.
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@Cap'n:
You'd think that actual skill would render most of these whines about stages obsolete
but NOPE
Blame the generation who think all fights happen on flat ground.
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I think the reason that I switched to using buttons to jump almost immediately was that I'd always play as Kirby.
It's insanely awkward to jump multiple times using the stick.
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I always used the X button to jump because I was used the C buttons on the N64 Smash. Using the up stick is really weird to me.
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I think ill throw this helpful tidbit out there
if your uploading the OST to an MP3 player, then having the artist as SSBB or Super Smash etc etc and the albums in relation to the game series it makes it all really easy to manage
I've used the buttons to jump since day 1, but usually accidentally jump doing attacks on the ground
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thought that was common sense
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I´ve uploaded some taunts from the Youtube link from 2 or 3 pages back here.
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Luigi's just too goddamn awesome.
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haha awesome gif's Can I snag one for another website? I credit ya :3
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http://xane.gamez-interactive.de/Pub/Text/Brawl/TrophyDescriptions.txt
Tophy Descriptions…but not named. You can probably figure out through the summary.
I see alot of neat trophies like Abomasnow and K. Rool.
EDIT: It says Kaptain K.Rool is K.Rool's brother...
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haha awesome gif's Can I snag one for another website? I credit ya :3
No problem, someone else would have done them eventually…
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@Komrade:
http://xane.gamez-interactive.de/Pub/Text/Brawl/TrophyDescriptions.txt
Tophy Descriptions…but not named. You can probably figure out through the summary.
I see alot of neat trophies like Abomasnow and K. Rool.
EDIT: It says Kaptain K.Rool is K.Rool's brother...
So, it seems that Luigi is now some kind of evil sorceror…
Awesome.
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This technique is a
reflection of the dark side he
embraced in his brother's shadow.Luigi's FS trophy description. 0.o
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@Komrade:
http://xane.gamez-interactive.de/Pub/Text/Brawl/TrophyDescriptions.txt
Tophy Descriptions…but not named. You can probably figure out through the summary.
I see alot of neat trophies like Abomasnow and K. Rool.
EDIT: It says Kaptain K.Rool is K.Rool's brother...
…..............rofl @ Lucas's description
NICE GOING, NOA.
I like how they tried to "explain" Lucas and Ness knowing PK Starstorm.
and lol @ the description of Luigi's Final Smash.
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I've always been a button jumper because Peach was one of the first characters I tried to main in Melee, and you can't do her instant floats with just the stick.
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The Forest Maze song in Mario Paint style. 0.o
This wasn't in that list of BGM, so I guess that dual-disc stuff was true.
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you know the one song I expected to get in but didn't
Sylph Co. from Pokemon Red and Blue
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@Komrade:
The Forest Maze song in Mario Paint style. 0.o
This wasn't in that list of BGM, so I guess that dual-disc stuff was true.
Forest Maze? Awesome.
Edit: Apparantly, it's edited in, the beginning Kanji says Super Mario World.
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Didn't really catch all of that conversation, but that means there's a lot more shit in the game than we thought, e.g. Assist Trophies?
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wait so the theres MORE MUSIC…..O.o
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Yeah, that music's fake.
The upper-left corner said "Title/Ending (Super Mario World)"
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@Geg:
Oh God, Peach's "lalala" taunt was horrifying. I'd hate to be playing against someone using that.
Fuck yes. Peach's my main so I'm teh winrar.
So… Is there a link to all the different costumes for the characters, by any chance?
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I hate using the stick to jump. What makes it worse is how easy it is to do it by accident (In my case at least). Thankfully for Brawl you can turn Pressing "Up" to jump off, which is a feature that I will welcome with open arms.
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Don't know why, but jumping with the stick felt natural to me as compared to jumping with the buttons, which is ironic considering I spam the boost button a lot when I play F-Zero GX.
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Maybe I'm just too attached to the original designs, but most alt colors don't do it for me.
I am digging these, though.
- Maroon/white Mario (I've used this for him since the first game)
- Yeti DK (I've been wanting this forever)
- White-haired Ganondorf
- Green/White Luigi (though I still prefer the original)
- Monochrome Dedede
- B&W Lucario
- Mr. Saturn shirt Ness
- White shell Bowser
- White cap Classic Wario
- DARK TOON LINK, because of how hilarious it looks
- Black Cpt. Falcon (I'd use him in Fourside and pretend he was Batman)
- Green Falcon
- Bandana Pikachu
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Never use alternate colors – have always stuck with the originals.
Technically, though, Wario's classic outfit is an alternate costume, SO I'M BEING A NAUGHTY LITTLE DEVIOUS BOY IN THIS INSTALLMENT
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Original Melee Used Outfits:
'Pink Scrubs' Dr. Mario
'Doing his job cleaning the pipes AKA Shitty' OR 'SMBII Cover WHOOPS' Mario
'Extremely Pink' Weegee
'Nigga' Bowsa
'Daisy' Peach
Yoshi (no pref.)
'Emo Kong' DK OR 'Sick-as-a-Monkey Green' DK
'Show-me-your-moves, big-boy Pink' Capt. Falcon
'Brimming-with-evil-power Purple' Ganondorf
'I'm-better-than-you Red' Falco
'The Green Blur' Fox
'Bumblebee' Ness
Ice Climbers (no pref.)
'Monochrome' Kirby
'Dark' Samus
'Innocent-White' Zelda/Sheik
'Red Tunic' or 'Blue Tunic' Link
'The Little Thief in Black' Young Link
'Raver (Goggles)' Pichu
'I put on my robe and wizard hat' Pikachu
'Princess' Jigglypuff
Mewtwo (no pref.)
'Oldschool BLACK' G&W
'The Noble Prince Clad in White' Marth
'Gold-plated' RoyIf you read that all, props for ya. ;)
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Yeah I'll most likely use the original colors mostly, save ones like the DK or Captain Falcon ones I listed.
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My main back in melee was black Dr Mario. Reminded me of Neo for some reason.
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I like alternate costumes. I used black Dr. Mario and purple Ganondorf almost exclusively.
I'll definitely be using Yeti Kong and Red Overalls Wario in Brawl.
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I'll be using the WarioWare outfit for Wario. I like it more.